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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
bf constantly talking about ex
Posted: 11/24/2009 3:19:15 PM
Right Igor, I am sure you would have no problem at all if this were being done to you by a woman.

OP, you have been together 3 months and this seems to be increasing, by what you have said. I would be quite concerned.

I think the only fair thing to do, if you really like everything about him otherwise, is to put up a mirror.

Everytime he mentions her, visibly record it, or say, "That's one (two, three, so on...)." He has no right to subject you to such inconsiderate and rude treatment. Another thing you can do is to IMMEDIATELY, without a seconds pause, bring up a time with one of your ex's, be sure to compare him to that ex, whenever he compares you to his. If he doesn't like it and gets mad, ask him how does he think he has been making you feel for 3 months. My opinion is that he is an inconsiderate ass and will drop you like a hot potato if she even sniffed his way. She would drop him again and go back to her husband, but he would run anyway. He is obsessed with her. Three months with another person is way long enough for him to be over her and if he isn't over her and wasn't when he met you, he should have used better judgement and stayed out of another persons life until he was over her. He is just using you for companionship and someone to vent to.

A mirror is the best way to deal with jerks and users. They may hate it, but the impact will never leave them. In the long run you are doing them and yourself a favor.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 83 (view)
 
Guys are still idiots
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:58:21 PM
First I want to say that Zekestone on page 1 has some really good and thoughtful posts. I agree with what he has to say. He is responding with thought, not anger and nonsense.

The OP kind of ticks me off. He hears one line and assumes a lot. He knows nothing and the remark should not have angered him at all. His attention should have been on his date, the mother, not on the daughter. He carries something benign like this home with him and even posts it in the forum while angered even more. This is the sort of man I will stay clear of.

Someone else said that women have created the men the way they are (quote below). Now that is the biggest freaking loser I have ever read in here. Women are not responsible for the low life men in this country, or world. Men are the leaders, so this person needs to grow a set and learn to be a man. If anything men have created a generation of women who now think they have to be whores to get even a slight look from a man, because men only pay any attention to whores. If a woman isn't jumping on his d*@k in the first second and talking sex to him, he deems her worthless and moves on. That is the majority of males and that is a fact, so hords of women comply. Women do what gets results, you should know that. Just like you men do, but you are the ones that started it. You are the leaders. If you don't like it, change it. And if you want to argue who started it, lets just look at one small little scenario...for MANY years men frequented prostitutes, gentlemens clubs (gentlemen, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight), looked at nude women in magazines. Maybe now women go do all of the same things, but men did it for hundreds of years. What the hell did men think was going to happen??? Men started it. How damn stupid do you think your daughter is when you tell her to be a nice girl and not put out, while everytime she walks in the bathroom growing up all she sees are your nudie magazines and hears you act like an idot over T&A on tv, movies and in real, while mom is sitting right there being insulted by you doing it?? Yeah, tell us it is womens fault. Uh huh, tell us again. We didn't see the proof in that lie yet. How many high school girls get told by their boyfriends that he is breaking up with her and dating another girl because her boobs are bigger, or because she shows them??? Yeah, tell us it is a womans fault you men are like you are.



Women, through their behavior and choices, have created the last couple of decades exactly the kind of men they always taught us not to be and said they did not want.

No matter what we tell them about ourselves, they still believe the lies they have been told by the social de-constructers. And those beliefs have become self-fulfilling prophesies as they have indoctrinated a new generation of men into believing all the BS about themselves.



For my opinion of all of the bar scene and drinking, I think most of that you are talking about is a pathetic untruth. As a hotel manager it has only been 3 years since I substituted regularly for the bartenders when they wanted or needed off. All younger males. Every single time I worked, I worked alone, and the bar sales were 5 times higher, minimum, than when the guys worked. The owner and I stood back and observed many nights trying to see the problem. Mainly it was that the guys did a 20 minute focus on one thing and one thing only...a girl, sports on tv, or talking with another guy. Making drinks was an invasion of their personal time, they didn't know how to make most drinks and they didn't promote drinks. We surveyed them over and over and one of the questions was, how many drinks do you sell that men are buying for girls? The answer was always "very few", or "almost none".

When I worked the bar, also, it was almost none. Girls were buying drinks for guys and other girls left and right. Men bought drinks for themselves, other men and sometimes me. When I tended bar when I was young I had men buying me drinks ever second. Times have changed and what your talking about is not the usual anymore. That is old news and no longer true. Like the one guy said, that women buy him drinks, that is what is really going on now. Girls save money for bills and to party and for clothes, so they may not have lots of spendable cash, because it is always being saved for something. Guys are lazy now and do not work, live off of their girlfriends and spend any cash they get on something self-serving and stupid, like pot, video games and a beer bust with guy friends. They do not spend it on dates or girls. I have been at university for 6 years now and I have never seen guys have even .50 cents. Girls always buy their lunch, drive them everywhere and pay for all dates. That is the current generation.

For my generation, men are no longer the gentlemen I used to know, they are trying as hard as they can to be like the younger guys. Not one will drive to the woman, they expect the women to drive to them, then they want her to spring for at least half the date expense, if not all on occasion, while he still NEVER drives to her. These days most dating couple live 2-3 hours apart. They never buy drinks for you if you are on a date, never. Luckily, I rarely ever drink. Now, I have had a few slightly younger guys or much older guys buy me drinks if I am ever in a place where there is a bar. If he does not come to my table and not only ask, but sit down with me if I want him to and have some nice conversation, then I have some very strict rules for accepting a drink.

He must send the waitress/waiter over to ask and I must know if he intends to come over or not. If he does not and he has sent his message of why he is sending the drink and I can see the bartender make it, then I will accept if the message is acceptable. For instance, I have had it happen when I wore a certain dress, several men sent drinks without coming over saying it was nice to see a lady look like a lady, please tell the server what you want and I will pay for it, have a wonderful evening. Okay, I send thank you and I accept, unless he is creepy and I get a bad feeling.

If a drink appears at my table or the message is strange, absolutely not, I will reject it.

If a guy is just trying to pick me up, I will reject it.

If I can tell I am not interested in even conversation with the man, I reject it.

I have many times bought a drink or drinks for a man that has been buying for me when we just met and ended up having great conversation. This usually happens at the airport because I do not hang out in bars. I never, ever, under any circumstances leave with a guy I met at an airport, or anywhere for that matter. I hear this is how and where married men love to pick up one night, one hour stands. Conversation fine, I give back too fine, but that is it. And having managed a hotel I know what pilots and flight attendants are all about, too. No thanks. Pilots are great fun to kill a couple of hours with, but I wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft. pole.

Buying and accepting drinks, like anything else, is a matter of common sense and good manners. I have given and received and never had any incidents of feeling taken or taking. I choose who I am, nobody made me or makes me do anything. So claiming men are stupid because they buy drinks, can only be blamed on the man. Never offering to buy a drink is just as stupid. A happy life is about giving, receiving and the joy of experience and exchange it brings. This cannot be done with a chip on your shoulder. Look at a drink like I look at lending money...I don't. If I hand out money, I may agree that I am lending, but in my own mind and heart I look at it only as giving, never to receive it back, because 8 out of 10 times you will never get it back anyway. If I cannot be happy to give it, I do not give, period. I therefore can go on, not keeping score and be happy I gave.

It hurts to see so many people, grown people my age and older, that still think and act like total 8 year olds that have not learned one damn thing in life. No wonder this country and relationships are so screwed up.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
5 min chocolate cake
Posted: 11/24/2009 12:02:04 PM
I decided to post it here because that Adkins thread is so much arguing the effects of Adkins and the man himself. I hate that.

Adkins English Muffin
Mix together well...
1 egg
3 oz. cream cheese
2 tbls ground flax seed
any seasoning you like (optional) such as pepper, garlic or onion powder, steak seasoning, etc...
Divide the mixture between 2 small microwaveable bowls no larger than an English Muffin and microwave on high until puffy and dry, about 1.5 minutes.
You can now add a cheese slice, bacon, ham or sausage and an egg and have an Adkins friendly English Muffin breakfast. You can make these bigger and use more flax or even coconut flour (grind to a powder for these), put seeds and browned onions or garlic on top and use for burger buns.

If you are a person that lives fries or hash browns, you may fry, or grate and brown any of the following to be Adkins friendly...
eggplant cut in spears
whole green beans
parsnip
celery root

For a sweet potato-like side dish...
use pumpkin with a little sweetener, maple flavoring and pumpkin pie spices (or apple pie or similar) and heat well.

Mix ground flax seed, black pepper, celery salt, garlic and onionpowder, ground caraway, ground corriander and water to make a thin paste. Cover your microwave glass turntable with parchment paper and spread the paste thinly over the entire surface. Microwave for 5-10 minutes for a wrap-like tortilla thing for sandwich wraps, must use immediately. Continue to microwave for up to 20 minutes to make a crisp, light cracker like Wasa. This is really very good. You could also add grated hard cheese when half way cooked, like parmesan or romano.

You can grate fresh romano or parmesan cheese in large shred, adding some seasoning to top and bake in oven until crisp on parchment paper for a cheese cracker. Good with soups.

There are just so many good things you can make that will give you variety and have 1 or 2 carbs only. I found that it is very important to hold these things to a minimum and eat basically meat and salad, but that was my body. Everyone is different. I used all of these for when I just had to have a change, but honestly, one of the things I liked most about Adkins was that I was always satisfied, I never felt I needed something, unless I was having a meal with others eating things like this. So it was more of a social thing for me and people didn't want to talk about my diet when I was eating like them, even though mine had almost no carbs. Also, there is a website with chatting and forums and lots of recipes, health issues for everything under the sun, recording your statistics, carb and nutrition tracking, support and even a lot of off topic stuff. They also have great information on where to buy very low cost vitamins and otehr things online
http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/

Good Luck

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 52 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/24/2009 11:30:36 AM
Yum Yum FFS!

This is my 3rd Sausage Roll recipe this year and even though I haven;t made this one yet, it sounds just as good as the other two.

Thank You!
SS

Oh yes, we do have scones and I do make them, but I don't think it is a good choice for this crowd. I am going to make the Pork and Mushroom Gravy, but I am definitely going to do the Sausage Rolls too. Such a great idea!
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
5 min chocolate cake
Posted: 11/24/2009 11:17:56 AM
Hey Vic, you can't use the applesauce on Adkins because of the carb content. Amazingly pumpkin has very few carbs, but you don't have to use anything other than coconut, egg and flavoring. It does work better with the cream cheese, but not absolutely necessary. If you are looking for a way to get more fiber in your diet, you may also add a little ground flax seed. If you do use the pumpkin, be sure to check the carb amount for what you use to add to your daily total, as well as on the sweetener, and each item. The amount of all of them is very low, so you can have everything in the cake and still be under 6-7 carbs. Amazing, huh?

Most stores have an isle where they sell International, gourmet and health food items, so you can usually get it there. Some regular stores sell the unsweetened coconut in the freezer section, you can also use fresh coconut, that you let dry out a few days after cutting, then grind yourself. Yes, you should have no problem finding it in the health food stores. You may not find it in flour, but in the tiny shred. If it is a very tiny shred you do not have to grind it into flour for this cake. The tiny shred works fine. The shred last longer than the flour on the shelf. The flour tends to lose flavor and nutrition.

If you are on Adkins, I have another recipe you may like, so I think there is an old Adkins thread that I will pull up and post it in there.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Best tv shows always cancelled
Posted: 11/24/2009 2:06:09 AM
Oh Heavens!! I saw all four that I had not gotten a chance to see before, episodes 10 thru 13. THAT, WAS AWESOME!!!! So much more amazing than I had even imagined it would be. The one where Rollie hit the girl, sort of didn't fit in, but I am sure there was a plan for that.

I so hope another network picks this up and continues it. Where can I write and who should I write? Does anyone know??

Defying Gravity, easily the best new, and fastest cancelled, show to ever be written for television.

Thanks again wonderingsole.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
what things not to do on a date site
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:37:41 AM
Dee, I am not often terribly open about things in these forums, just because, why??? But in general, I am a pretty open person. I have nothing to hide. I prefer to put my skeletons out for all to see, like I prefer a man to be. Everyone has them, if they are hiding them, it tells me they are affecting their ability to have a relationship. I am so over and past that part of my life and after going through that, I don't scare easily. If I can scare a man off that easily with the truth of my past, then I don't want or need him.

These kinds of stories are not the kind of information like you two mention...guys that love to talk about their talents, when we all know if they brag about it, they cannot deliver it. That kind of info is just plain disgusting and in bad taste. If I get shot down for my ugly skeleton, then I know the person doing the shooting is going to lie to me about their past, because we all have something embarassing and ugly.

Dee, I for one appreciate your honesty. I know I am not a guy, but I at least know you are an honest person.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
5 min chocolate cake
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:27:33 AM
I have another version. I would have never thought about actually trying this with flour and sugar.

When I was on the Adkins diet I would make this. If you cannot have eggs, you would have to attempt the variations like Molly did.

1 egg, beaten
about 1/2 cup coconut flour, ground coconut without sugar on it (I don't measure, I am guessing, the amount isn't crucial)
sweetener of your choice, stevia, splenda, truvia, blue aguave, whatever (about the amount you would put in that size mug for your coffee)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
about 2 tbls cocoa powder (optional)
2 oz. cream cheese (optional)
pumpkin (optional)
spice (optional)
1 tsp or more flavoring (optional, can use DaVinci or Italian syrups, too; which make it easy to create any flavor of cake. Like raspberry, cherry, hazelnut, Irish Creme, Mint, Pumpkin Spice, Gingerbread, etc...)

Mix and microwave for a minute and a half to 3 minutes, depending on the size and which ingredients you chose to put in. It will be puffy, risen and slightly pulling from sides of cup or dish. I often made an indention in the center after mixing and put water in it, then microwaved, making a lava-like center after cooking.

Really good,
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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:08:54 AM
^^^Nope, I asked. I told them/him of that is what he wants, I do not and will not do that, so he needs ot pick something else. He said, "No, the homemade stuff."

Unfortunately, I already know that what he says and what he means and the definition I know are three different things.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Mincemeat and pecan pie help..
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:05:40 AM
^^^Yep, I hit it too, but she said she didn't cook it. Maybe I should have said, No-Cook Pecan Pie.

You really should have posted it, it actually sounded like a good recipe when I read it.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 100 (view)
 
What you can tell by their eye color
Posted: 11/23/2009 11:55:00 PM
Funcuz....cuz....LOL
Welcome to the world of Judaism (unless you're Polish LOL)
run by Judeo-Christians that do not even know much of anything about their own religion and beliefs


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Younowho, didn't we already have that one???
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Mincemeat and pecan pie help..
Posted: 11/23/2009 11:28:58 PM
I know this thread is OLD, but I figure it is as good a place as any to bring up a question I have, which this thread reminded me of.

I have also never been a fan of Pecan Pie, while I LOVE pecans, I hate the sweetness of the pie. I have never had an overly sweet Mince Pie, unless it had mostly raisins, then I wouldn't eat it anyway. I don't like raisins.

My question and statement is this. When I was young, one of my cousins made a No-Bake Pecan Pie for a family reunion. I tried for years to get the recipe. When I finally cornered her, she said that was the one and only time she had ever made it and got it off of some package, but couldn't remember what the package was. I have never been able to find such a recipe or anyone who has ever heard of it. I loved it because it was LESS sweet and still good. That was when I was in my 20's. Who knows, I may not even like it today, but I would still like to try.

Knowing how most things are, I can almost bet it had sweetened condensed milk in it. That is the only ingredient I know that is in every No-Bake pie. Still, it was good, at least I thought so then and I was skeptical before trying it.

Has anyone here ever heard of it or have the recipe??

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/23/2009 10:41:14 PM
Gosh Rax, thank you. I am so humbled. I don't think I deserved that incredible compliment. I have just had a different situation and been a lifetime around incredible cooks.

But for the second post... (go ahead, laugh at me LOL)
OMG! Are you serious? Jarred gravy is fancy??
This is going to take a heap of swallowing. I honestly feel queasy.

I haven't even reconciled the canned mushrooms LOLOL

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tv dinner food-------tv dinner food---------tv dinner food
I can do it
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 44 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/23/2009 10:17:52 PM
Oh Rax! I have had on the rare occasion TV dinner Salisbury Steak, it has been a loooong time, but I have had it AND Beef Pot Pies, though probably not since I was a kid. Sooooooo, that is what jarred gravy is? Okay, I think I am starting to get it. That is not good, but it is edible. So packet gravy is dry, okay, that is definitely out. I have to draw the line somewhere. I mean what could it be? Bullion, cornstarch and chemicals to keep it from getting hard and spoiling??? I can make bullion gravy with cornstarch. I won't like it, but I can make it. Also, it probably, along with the jarred gravy, has powdered onions and maybe even garlic. I do not like powdered onion at all, but I just bought some for making Chex mix and I can use that too.

All I keep thinking is how I waaaaaaaaaay dumbed down my resume to get this job, because there are literally NO jobs in this town and now I am dumbing down my cooking skills and knowlesge of health and nutrition, but it is one party, one meal. If I think of it as a contest for creating TV dinner food, I can do it, even the canned mushrooms. LOLOL I literally just had a shiver run down my spine LOL

Okay, the mashed potatoes...I do use a hand beater to mix them after roughly mashing them. But I know when to stop before I create potato paste. I don't like skins in my mashed potatoes either. So, are you saying butter is okay? These people have never had butter. In fact, once we were all talking and they were saying they didn't know what margarine was, they use I Can't Believe It's Not Butter (but do not understand why it is called that), Crock Pot Butter (Shedd's Spread), Squeeze Butter (??) or Parkay. When I kept saying, "No, not margarine, butter." I got a circle of them around me who said, "Honey, those ARE butter. You must be thinking about some weird gourmet item you use. We don't know what margarine is." Well, I was silently stunned. I gave up and let them think they were right. If I use butter in those potatoes, I bet they will think they taste funny. I am not so sure about milk either. Apparently none of them ever use or drink it...it has fat. LOL all of these people smoke, as well as eat mostly junk food. I tried to tell them once about why it is dangerous to use gladware in the microwave and why margarine is bad because of the hydrogenated oils....they got angry. It was later that I found out they didn't know what margarine was. One more thing, so I need to leave lumps??

Thanks Rax,

TB! LOL I know, please do giggle. I am. It is so ridiculous and for me unbelieveable. I know I am just as funny as they are because I do not and cannot relate to this kind of food and eating. I am well aware that most all American's can, but I can't. I know this makes me funny too! God had a real sense of humor when he allowed me to get a job there. I am 100% opposite of everyone there so, maybe we all have things to learn from each other. It is a riot when I see it in writing like this. In this little town you have to do things you would never do, mostly because the town is so small and I am in a very visible position and everyone I am in contact with in work and church have very deep roots throughout the community. Way deeper than I usually know. I have never known the meaning of finesse until I came here. It is a strange way to live. A city is so much easier.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
beating
Posted: 11/23/2009 9:00:27 PM
You may want to find the nearest Victorian or before, REAL home, living history museum where people working there live EXACTLY as people really did back then.

Really washing, cooking, sewing (by candle light), making your own needles,
canning, gardening,
shoing horses,
sweeping (making your broom), scrubbing (no mops),
making beds, cleaning chamber pots,
grinding wheat and corn by hand after harvesting,
hunting, cleaning and dressing animals,
stoking the fire with wood, going out to find, hunt, chop and carry the wood,
the almost non-existant or primitive tools,
soap making,
cow milking, butter churning,
growing cotton as well as removing the seeds, carding, spinning and weaving, dying the fabrics after hunting and preparing the plants for making the dye,

tending the animals and growing the food to feed them, cleaning their stalls and removing their ticks,
harvesting long grasses (hay),
cooking and living in cramped spaces with long full skirts while trying not to catch on fire (infection from fire burns was the #1 cause of death for women),
having babies,
building your own home,
digging your well, drawing water from the well...etc...etc...and so forth, then decide how much time they had to devote 1 whole hour to beating and creating a single dish, especially a nonessential dessert.

Dishes that took hours and lots of labor to prepare where shared labor by several women of several families that had come together for a special occasion or holiday, sharing their resources.

There was so much work that 2 year olds worked and there was never a day when it ALL got done. If there were 12 children, usually the mother didn't make it. If ther mother did make it, the father didn't. It was never the life Hollywood and most books portray.

The everyday, or more frequent yummy, stuff that we still imitate and cook today are the same or variations on the things that took very little time and were very good and fairly nutritious. It really is simplicity, not hard or confusing.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
dating outside your race
Posted: 11/23/2009 8:44:25 PM
Okay, because of all of the arguing here on this thread and my first post was really just humor, I decided I would really look into this.

1. The OP says she is dating..........Her profile says she is taken. I see this a lot.

2. The OP says she never dates within her race..........According to her pictures, the one that is the light and sweetheart of her life, I assume the one she is supposed to be attached to when she is not dating others, is white. He is dark with tattoos, but he is white with blue eyes.

So much for this thread ! It is just another lie that no one looks into before posting and arguing.

 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 40 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/23/2009 8:02:27 PM
This thread is cracking me up! Which is good, because truly I do let this stress me and that is plain stupid. I read this a couple of nights ago, but have been thinking about it and have been very busy, so haven't answered.

Rax and Charon...I know you are right. It is hard and even painful to hear and read, but I know you are right. My mind just can't wrap around this. First, I have never, ever, heard of or seen packet gravy. Does it really come in packets??? OMG! Is that anything like jarred gravy? I don't even think I have had that, but I am willing to buy a jar just to taste it. It is only like $1.50, right? The chemical-laden fake ingredient list must be massive. I shudder to think.

Look, I truly want your opinions more on this Rax and Charon, so please what do you think about me doing this? Thick slice a pork loin and put it in the crock pot with some broth I have in the freezer, I may have pork, I know I have beef - no spice or herbs at all - how about grated onion??? Let it cook until very tender.

I will have to trim it of all fat because even though these people eat only junk, they all seem to have a severe phobia of seeing or eating fat. If they detect any fat was left on the meat they will not eat it, which is why I choose to use loin.

Then just plain thicken with cornstarch. I HATE canned mushrooms and am having a VERY hard time with the idea, but I may be able to make myself do that. Holy God in heaven, GROSS!

Mashed potatoes...they say they like only real. Man that is hard to believe and I wonder if they have any clue what real ones are, because they started talking about buying the ones in the tubs, microwaving and some require mashing and some were already mashed. I mean these people do not cook, so how could they say they only like real? Do they mean the instant that says Real Idahoan Potato flakes on the box?? I am confused and these people get offended easily, so I didn't want to ask. They would give you the shirt off of their own back, as long as you aren't offending them, so I do what I can to understand. They are nice people, just weird eaters.

So, do you think there will be an issue if I just boil and mash potatoes with butter, salt and milk? I am almost scared to use milk or butter. Maybe they will only like a little salt and margarine. I don't use margarine, but I will for this if that is needed. I always use milk to mash potatoes, not cream, but milk. They never mentioned milk. Would this be a flavor offense? The one guy I particularly asked said he will only know my potatoes are real if they have lumps, but he also was one that said get the real ones in the microwaveable tubs. He actually doubts my cooking is real???? I never make mashed potatoes with lumps. Do I need to?

These people confuse the hell out of me. Please Rax and Charon, what do you think? Charon, I can appreciate your gravy idea, but these people are clear that milk only belongs in gravy with sausage for breakfast with biscuits and then they will only eat the frozen Bob Evans variety, NOT homemade. They say no one can make it like Bob Evans at home, so people shouldn't try. None eat fruit, none eat vegetables. They only like biscuits with BE gravy and no other time.

Buggy..fish? They would never let me in the door!

FFS, I did that last year, even though it wasn't exactly the plan.

Luckbox, they sure need one, but it would go in the trash. The manager always brings several gifts to be able to pull out an extra one so people do not have to take a gift like a cookbook. However, she considers the endless package of cheap crappy chocolate, that everyone brings, to be a suitable gift.

Bere, that is how I am used to doing White Elephant, but this group, just brings candy and can take from others based on type of candy and packaging...they would freak at suggestion of the other, I know, I tried.

Molly, I always love being entertained by your posts, but I have already learned I am not spending that kind of time and effort on them anymore.

42, they don't eat fruit and there is already too much chocolate flowing.

Guess, LOL even sweet salsa, or anything that remotely resembles Mexican, unless it is from Taco Bell, is 100% rejected by them as being too spicy, on looks and name alone. They believe it, no matter how untrue it is.

Gypsie, I understand, but these people are nice people, just different from you and I on the subject of food. I am the one and only and I have worked there a few years, so I have to get along. I would rather conform a little bit on things that really don't matter in the scheme of things to make them happy, than to do it MY way and get people all unhappy and gossipy. I am the one and only in my minority. The rest ALL agree.

In the end, making people happy and feeling good, is far more important than doing things my way and making them feel bad. Why should I care if they eat differently, bad for them or not? It is hard for me to understand, but I must try. I will never conform, but I certainly want to create goodwill and bring a smile wherever I can. Differences are beautiful, not conformity, whether it be me or them.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 26 (view)
 
butter-tarts
Posted: 11/23/2009 6:46:59 PM
Here is another...

Old-Fashioned Chess Pie

1½ cups sugar
1 TBS
½ cup butter, melted
1 TBS vinegar
½ tsp vanilla extract
3 eggs, beaten
1 unbaked 8-inch pastry shell

Combine first 5 ingredients.
Stir in eggs. Mix thoroughly.
Pour into pastry shell. Bake at 350° for 50-55 minutes.


Look familiar? Hard to tell one from the other, isn't it? Except that Canadian Butter Tarts, are tarts and a Southern US Chess Pie, is a full sized pie.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
butter-tarts
Posted: 11/23/2009 6:39:37 PM
Guess$$who, that sounds more like what in America we would call a Chess Pie, or a Buttermilk Pie, even the filling for a Pecan Pie, without the pecans.

All of those are very similar to Butter Tart Recipes.

Now, so me Chess or Buttermilk Pie recipes are different, but the original and best ones (in my opinion) are the ones with a short simple ingredient list and lesser sugar. They are so good, you want to cry.

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Here is an example of an
Old Fashioned Chess Pie
1 pie crust (9 inch)
5 eggs
1/3 cup sugar
1 1/4 cups pure sorghum molasses (use light Karo Syrup instead)

Preheat the oven to 350° Line a 9-inch pie pan with the crust.
In a medium mixing bowl, with a hand-held electric mixer, beat eggs until smooth. Add sugar and sorghum, and beat for another minute. Pour mixture into the pie shell. Bake for 35 to 40 minutes, until a toothpick inserted in the center comes out clean. Cool before serving.

Soooooooooooo good!

You can add flavoring and butter if you want, but I think it is the lack of butter than makes it more firm.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
beating
Posted: 11/23/2009 6:20:57 PM
^^^Kunik, no.^^^

I posted to you about this and apparently you didn't find my info worthy. That is okay, you have to learn on your own. I could not find who posted to you about the lumps you are asking about, but they are correct. Very few things are to be beaten to a fluffy lump-free consistency, but if you want to do that, go ahead. Eventually, you will wonder why your items come out tougher and flatter, or falling.

Again, real brownies do not get beaten. Maybe chocolate cake, not brownies.

How do you think the WONDERFUL cooking of old times happened without a blender, appliances and electricity, or time to spend 40 minutes doing it by hand?
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
dating outside your race
Posted: 11/23/2009 5:49:23 PM
Personally, I do not believe in "race." I think it is a lie and a farce invented when the slave trade was in full swing 200 years ago. There is only one race, the human race. So dating outside of your race to me means a non-human.

Now, I would take this as a very interesting question with a much deeper meaning, but one probably as easily answered as, "there is no such thing as race." If the whole world believed as I do, that race does not exist and you made a statement like this one...dating outside of your race...then I would have to think you were making a hypothetical situation based on the scientific fact that there have been up to six different human species on Earth at the same time in the past, with at least one, Neandertal, being on the Earth at the same time as us, Homosapiens. There is sufficient evidence that they did mate and produce offspring. Today, there is evidence that in many humans the cellular structure is changing in a way that will produce a subspecies of Homosapiens, or even a totally new human species. Interesting, huh? So I would take this question to mean...

Dating a different species of human, would you do it??

Ahhh, we can even ponder the problems and descriminations of the future.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Being committed to the relationship
Posted: 11/23/2009 5:31:08 PM
Sorry miller, I am not buying your "perfect man" story either and no, I am not a woman that has been hurt and now I am bitter. That is a trademark answer of all men that use and hate women and then tell their stories ot make themselves look perfect and innocent, while the woman just used them for all she could.

You are leo as well, and this attitude is famous from leos. You are the perfect beings, golden light shines on you from heavenly realms, but your lot in life is to be used and taken for granted. Poor babies. You rescue and care for everyone, only to receive nothing equal in return. Yes, yes, I have heard it a million times from your types.

So miller, how many times have you been married? How many years have you been divorced? How many women have you dated? These questionss, answered only by posting a simple number and nothing more, would be important information.
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 93 (view)
 
What you can tell by their eye color
Posted: 11/23/2009 4:01:04 PM
The pure ingnorance of this thread is beyond comprehension. This is what is wrong with the human race...people who would write or post things like this.


Black eyes - People with black eyes spend the shortest time in relationships except for the one with their current addiction. They always fall in love with anything that has two legs, a pulse.They are great kissers----until they vomit all over from whatever they over indulge in.

I wonder what the majority in the world, the billions of people, in Western Asia like India or Eastern Asia like the many island nations of Japan, Indonesia, or even Korea, Vietnam; how about Hawaiians, Samoans, and the Central and South Americans; of course all of the Africans; would think about this.

Besides that, the blue eyes, green eyes and hazel eyes descriptions are so far off from the ones I have known. This is clearly a self-serving fantasy world thread. And no, you didn't mean it as a fun joke. Did you give one second of thought to this before you swallowed it and posted it?

 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 566 (view)
 
Do women prefer men with long hair or short?
Posted: 11/22/2009 7:49:45 PM
No contest, short.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Best tv shows always cancelled
Posted: 11/22/2009 4:44:15 PM
Wonderingsole,

I just wanted to thank you for the site info. I do not even know why I wandered back into this thread, I had forgotten about it, but I am so glad I did. I just watched episode 10 and cannot wait to see the rest! The only issue is that I will have to go through weeks of withdrawal again but I kind of think it is worth it.

Thanks Again,

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
what things not to do on a date site
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:05:04 AM
This was ages before the term bipolar came into existence.

He was diagnosed Paranoid Schizophrenic.

Oh, and I know it is hard to describe, you kind of have to see it, but he didn't bully, at least not in the conventional way. He THOUGHT, he was using mind control, but the fact is that he was so completely freaky and weird, people were just plain scared of him and felt an aura of uncertainty around him, therefore preferred to placate him, than to rock the boat.

He loved to start babbling psycho-science (my term). He truly thought he was dazzling them with brilliance, but he was really baffling them with bullsh*t and frightening them. He would pour out scientific fantasy terminology, that sounded like possibly a once intelligent man went DEEP off the end, so it made him even more frightening and I think it is what made people want to be nice to him. They thought he was an unfortunate "once was."

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 224 (view)
 
Anyone Ever Been To One of Those BBW Parties?
Posted: 11/21/2009 7:28:45 PM
Okay, I just read the first page, but geez....why do people who have no idea and have never been make statements like they are experts??? Some people are just freaking idiots. If you haven't been, don't post.

I have a friend who IS a lovely BBW. She wanted to go to one of these parties for a long time, but refused to go alone and who can blame her?? So after a year of begging, I finally agreed to go to Detroit with her and in a three day weekend go to two of these parties...specifically Valentines Parties. Oh brother, could she have picked a worse time? I am not fond of the holiday in general.

So, I went and I am not a BBW, so do not even go there.
I was very pleasantly surprised and she was disappointed. There were maybe 1/2 of the women that were BBW, and another half that used to be, but lost the weight, but were still stuck in the same old routine and group, so never left. My friend didn't like that. I really felt sorry for these women because even though they were quite small, they didn't know it and were the worst about staying clear of all of the men.

Now, as far as the men. Most had come with a woman, but not all. About 1/3 came stag. The majority of the men, like all but one or two, were very well dressed and not at all heavy themselves. I strongly dislike the term, but most could have been described as metrosexuals....almost too polished, but hey, if that is what they like. I found myself wondering what kind of cars they drove and how polished they were.

The worst thing overall was this...
Most of the men were a bit shy and waited for the women to make the move and most of the women waited for the men to make the move, so few got together.

Also, it was the best behaved and well maintained party I had ever been to. People were all very polite to each other. At most of these singles things there are men and women imposing themselves all over each other and it gets disgusting to watch and draining to fight off.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 251 (view)
 
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 6:54:51 PM
Exactly, Cheshire. Disparate impact seems to be the key to judging these cases, which is a bit different than in the beginning when it was judged more on a personal impact.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
What to make for people that only eat and only like Fast Food and Junk Food???
Posted: 11/21/2009 6:15:50 PM
Hello!

Remember this thread from last year??? Well, it is that time of year again. The planning time for the annual Holiday Workplace Party. I was like, "Nooooooooooooo, not another year where I cook good food and everyone yells it is too fancy or too spicy when all I cook is just plain food without spice.

So this year, I asked the guy who always eats it, but yells the most about it. He says, "Your food is too spicy!!" I told him he was dreaming because I didn't put any spice or hot stuff in the food. He couldn't seem to come up with anything.

So, thinking about the post in the front page here that says Pork chops and gravy I asked, "What sounds better, spaghetti and meatballs...." he says YEAH, "...or pork chops and gravy?" His eyes get big and he comes close. He says, "mushroom gravy?" I said, sure. He says, "Can you make the pork really tender and non-fatty? I said, of course. He says, "With mashed potatoes with nothing but a little salt and butter?" I said, if that is what you want. He says, "Okay, we will eat that, if I don't eat it all from everyone else."

So, one more time I am going to try this. If no one eats this, then I know they are impossible junk food eaters and somehow I migrated to the wrong workplace with a LOAD of them. I have no clue what the gift I get will be. I have no desire to get a nice gift again while everyone else gives $1 worth of chocolate.

I have never cooked Pork Chops with Mushroom Gravy, but I sure have made beef or Salisbury Steak with Mushroom Gravy, so I figure that is the thing to do, in a crockpot so it gets really tender. I asked him if he preferred loin or shoulder and he didn't know, but I am going for the loin. Are there any Michiganders here that cook this dish regularly? If so, please chime in. I have never figured out how to cook for Michigan people. The taste requirements are so different. Though, I do not and will not use canned soup, so those recipes are useless to me. Thanks

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 405 (view)
 
One third of older women date younger men
Posted: 11/21/2009 5:50:25 PM
#1 dating younger men does not exactly tell the truth, now does it?
My daughter is married to a younger man, by a whole 7 months!!!!
Holy Freaking God! But she fits the statistic.

Get real. This whole bullsh*t that there is a growing population of "old"/"older" women dating younger men and being overtly aggressive is ANOTHER of the biggest lies that Americans eager for Jerry Springer to grasp onto and run into the ground in a blaze of glory that never was.

And you can feel free to quote me.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 249 (view)
 
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/21/2009 5:22:38 PM
Cheshire,
Here is an interesting article on what you are talking about. I am not saying I totally agree with it, interesting all the same.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/16/AR2007111601202.html

Anything that feels threatening, insulting, demeaning, or retalliatory is considered sexual harassment. Gender or sexual orientation does not play into it. To call someone a **** is to harass her gender. All of the url's I have posted state the law and or address the law. As I said above, according to the law, if any form of sexual harassment is filed at any workplace and it is found to be true, then the business owner is held responsible for allowing an atmosphere that it could happen in. There is a fine levied. The fine can be dropped if the victim asks for it to be based on feeling the employer handled the problem well. It is that simple.
http://www.equalrights.org/publications/kyr/shwork.asp

Also check out here
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:p9BNe0kBMBwJ:www.uwgb.edu/hr/Training/SexualEthicsInTheWorkplace.ppt+Equal+Rights+defined+words+considered+sexual+harassment+in+the+workplace&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://humanresources.about.com/od/glossarys/a/sexualharassdef.htm

The Role of Managers in Harassment Prevention and Investigation
Managers and supervisors are the front line when it comes to managing employee performance and needs from work. First, and most importantly, you do not want a workplace culture that allows any form of harassment to occur. Out of your commitment to your employees and your company, harassment, in any form, is never to be tolerated.
In harassment, as well as in other law suit-engaging topics, as an employer, demonstrating that you took appropriate steps is crucial. In fact, demonstrating that you took immediate action and that the consequences for the perpetrator were severe, is also critical. And, the front line leader is usually the person initiating and following through on those steps, so they have to feel confident about what they are doing. Any form of harassment can create a hostile work environment including sexual harassment and how it is addressed. The court's definition of what constitutes a hostile work environment has recently expanded to coworkers who are caught up in the situation, too.

As you think about sexual harassment and other forms of harassment in your work place, keep these facts in mind.


The employee harassing another employee can be an individual of the same sex. Sexual harassment does not imply that the perpetrator is of the opposite sex.

The harasser can be the employee's supervisor, manager, customer, coworker, supplier, peer, or vendor. Any individual who is connected to the employee's work environment, can be accused of sexual harassment.

The victim of sexual harassment is not just the employee who is the target of the harassment. Other employees who observe or learn about the sexual harassment can also be the victims and institute charges. Anyone who is affected by the conduct can potentially complain of sexual harassment. As an example, if a supervisor is engaged in a sexual relationship with a reporting staff member, other staff can claim harassment if they believe the supervisor treated his or her lover differently than they were treated.

In the organization's sexual harassment policy, advise the potential victims that, if they experience harassment, they should tell the perpetrator to stop, that the advances or other unwanted behaviors are unwelcome.

Sexual harassment can occur even when the complainant cannot demonstrate any adverse affect on his or her employment including transfers, discharge, salary decreases, and so on.

When an individual experiences sexual harassment, they should use the complaint system and recommended procedures as spelled out in the sexual harassment policy of their employer. The investigation should be conducted as spelled out in the handbook.

The employer has the responsibility to take each complaint of sexual harassment seriously and investigate. The investigation should follow these steps listed in How to Address Sexual Harassment Charges.
Following the investigation of the harassment complaint, no retaliation is permitted, regardless of the outcome of the investigation. The employer must, in no way, treat the employee who filed the complaint differently than other employees are treated nor change his or her prior-to-the-complaint treatment. If it is determined that the employee lied, disciplinary action is necessary, however.


Here is a current sexual harassment case in the courts, concerning the word b*tch and one to follow. It hasn't been decided yet.
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/laborprof_blog/2009/06/11th-circuit-orders-rehearing-in-sexual-harassment-case.html

I was in California for all of the three cases I was involved in in the early 2000's of sexual harassment. Things have calmed down only a little since then. At the time I was involved the laws were fairly new and judges were harsh, on employers and on the offenders. Now there have been enough cases prosecuted and won for the victims that cases can be looked at from a slightly broader view. The laws were written and instituted originally in California, so it was a hotbed of scrutiny. Here is another website stating loosely about the use of the word b*tch I can tell you that in a court situation, there is nothing lose about it. The use of the word is taken seriously and seen for what it is...gender bias, abuse and discrimination, even when being delivered from a female to a female.
http://www.californialaborlawattorney.com/newsletter.php?id=751

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Pork chops w/gravey
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:01:13 PM
I am not much on pork, or chicken, but i can tell you that if I get a good organic chicken, or for me I prefer thighs, roast with only a little salt n the skin at 450 in the oven on a very shallow baking sheet, for about 40 minutes, make rice and then gravy from the pan drippings of the chicken...

OH MY Goodness that is an awesome simple meal. So comforting.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
beating
Posted: 11/21/2009 1:56:16 PM
Kunik, if a recipe does not specify it generally means to beat on medium speed and only until well mixed. The rule about overmixing applies to all things.

I have to assume you make cake brownies (basically chocolate cake) because I never make those and I know the dense chewy brownie should never be beaten, or mixed with an electric mixer. You hand stir and dry lumps are good to have, just like with biscuit dough, pancakes or cornbread batter. With all of those you do not want to beat the lumps out, just fairly incorporate all of the ingredients so that you do not recognize them individually, which only takes hand mixing about 20 or less stirs with a wooden spoon.

Overbeating is a common mistake. Only some cake batters and frostings require mixing until fluffy. You can even easily over whip egg whites and heavy cream. Once you over mix, no amount of mixing will ever inflate them again. You are a lot better off tending toward under mixing.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Meant to be alone
Posted: 11/21/2009 3:27:29 AM
WHOA Cindy....

First, I only read the OpeningPost, no other. I still haven't read yours and won't be taking the time to look for it. In fact, I only read the first two sentences of the one just above here.

Second, I forgot I even responded to this thread and came back to do so when I saw my first and then yours.

Like, I was trying to say to the OP, just lighten up, be happy with yourself and try to somewhat stay with current trends. Do not be a slave to them and please be yourself, but don't fall too far behind because men seem to not like that. They must look at more magazines than women do.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Is this a Hate Crime ?
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:50:14 AM
Bill??? On 9-11-01???

Bill who??

You mean George W. Bush, don't you??

The same George W. Bush whose daddy dreamed up Desert Storm??







to below v v v Noooo not the presidency, not at all. The 130+ year plan of a certain extremely wealthy and powerful dirty dealing family is who I am talking about
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 118 (view)
 
Do large women like large men?
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:30:25 AM
Yeah, Russell Crowe is one of the few guys that the more he works out, the more plump he appears. Apparently he works out obssessively, but you have never seen him ripped and bulging with muscle like the kind I was talking about have you? I haven't. Yeah, he looks pretty good when he is heavier, I agree.

I have two sons and they are as different as night and day that way. Both are slender, but not skinny.
One gets plumper looking when he works out. No real muscular definition, just plump looking, like Russel Crowe, except more tall and more slender.
The other gets really ripped, very easily. He hardly has to try. He can get six-pack abs in a week or less. He is shorter and just an overall small guy, but he has the strength of 30 men, I think. And because he is small, he has moves a bigger guy could never make. He is a dangerous weapon.

Oh, something I really like in a guy, is substantial ankles. Slender ankles on a guy just kind of bothers me. Big boned healthy looking ankles on a man is really nice.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
couscous
Posted: 11/21/2009 2:10:25 AM
I sooo love tabouleh, but I would NEVER make it with couscous. Couscous is just too soft.

Burghul is what you need to use, cracked wheat, it holds up to the storage and marinating, or sitting in the vegetable juices, olive oil and lemon juice. Couscous just goes to mush.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 40 (view)
 
Meant to be alone
Posted: 11/21/2009 1:25:16 AM
One, change your screen name
Two, stop announcing that you are weird, strange, unusual, different.
Three, if you think that stuff about yourself, then change to what you like.
Four, if you do not want to change, then own who you are and be happy and proud of it.

Seriously, why would anyone jump to get attached to a person that has low self-esteem? Telling the world how strange you are and expecting to attract the opposite sex from it is Jr. High school stuff. Get a makeover and think, look and act your age. You might be surprised.
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
strange signs?!
Posted: 11/21/2009 1:19:33 AM
Nikola, you are young, but you are typing like you are younger

J Daddy, women are not men. Women do not get scared of having a good relationship and run away, that is a man habit. I will give you a good piece of advice for a man your age...get real, stop with the J Daddy. No self-respecting WOMAN would take you seriously.
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Is this a Hate Crime ?
Posted: 11/21/2009 12:16:28 AM
Of course it was a hate crime and a bigger crime of pathetic ignorance. You already know this. You are a smart guy.

I am Jewish and I have many Muslim friends. Most do not prescribe to terrorism or radical religious beliefs. Most are peaceful people just trying to have a nice life for themselves and family. People here actually have the ignorance to believe the crap the media in this country is peddling in EVERY direction. Israel is also not a big bully.

"...can talk about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye..."

I agree with Roper about making the lady walk around in Afganistan with a T-shirt on that reads Allah Sucks! We sure as hell do not need her in the jails while we support her butt to the tune of 100 times more than it would cost outside of jail.

I disagree with Roper about blaming the military. The blame lies with our top government officers, specifically THE BUSH family.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 239 (view)
 
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/20/2009 11:59:25 PM
^^^Damn right I would.^^^ Human rights are human rights and I do not tolerate that assinine behavior in anyone.

No conversatioin, no discussion. End of story.

My actions would be fully backed and protected by law. My lack of reacting in that manor would hold me as guilty as they.

To be honest with you, my first firing over sexual harassment was a woman. She called another woman a b*tch and that word is a clear cut sexual harassment violator, no matter who says it against who. We almost had to pay the $8000, but the person asked the court to drop the case against the employer, due to my swift and caring action.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Do you ever feel like you belong in a different place or in a different time?
Posted: 11/20/2009 11:27:45 PM
Not in any way trying to discredit your feelings, because I understand them and have had them. I think most people have, but the down and dirty reality is....

What you wish and desire is Hollywood, or Books, not ever was it reality. What you are missing is a moral society based on fairness and accountability. Those moments in history were never really there, but for brief moments some societies came close in theory, so that creative people and those that long for justice were moved to wax poetic and romantically about it as if it really existed.

Many people really do want goodness, justice and love. That is for the afterlife...we hope.

It is a nice thing to dream about, but do not confuse it with reality.

There is a very good "movie" (LOL we are intrinsically attached to those things) line that I find intelligent (one of the few) and try to remember whenever it is appropriate...

A man who tells lies, like me, merely hides the truth. But a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where he put it.

Don't be a man who tells half-lies to his own mind.

Peace,

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 237 (view)
 
A Very Ugly Situation - What Would YOU Do?
Posted: 11/20/2009 11:04:18 PM

The other day I overheard a conversation between two of my male employees. A woman who is our technical writer is a very attractive single African American. One of the male employees said that he was trying to get her to date him "just so I know what it's like to f*ck a black chick." From what I could tell, he has no interest in her beyond that, and he even made some pretty ugly racial comments in general. I wanted to go right in there and fire him on the spot. The problem is, he's very important to us technically, and it would be difficult to quickly replace him.


Oh that is soooooooooooooooooooo easy.
1. I would without hesitation call him to my office.
2. I would tell him to sit down, never sit down myself, and immediately go to the website defining what is sexual harassment, print it out for him and also print out the part that it is a minimum $8000 fine for the business owner if a charge is filed and found to be true, highlight both and make sure he sees that a copy of them go straight to his file that gets laid in the center of your desk.
3. Make a phone call to the nearest or best technical recruiting agency and line up people for his job.
4. Call the payroll department and have them immediately bring his final check including any vacation if owed. If he has a key, take it.
5. Make a sticky note, attached to the front of his file that reads...call attorney.
6. Escort him with a box, lid or bag to his desk to gather anything that is his.
7. Escort him to the door.
8. Get the other guy in to sign a statement of what the guy said, along with a witness that you didn't coerce him to sign it. He will, because he knows he was dangerously close to getting the same thing and will want to cooperate.

No conversatioin, no discussion. End of story.

I have been faced with it and no one is THAT valuable. You condoned his behavior the second you allowed it, walked away and felt he was more valuable than basic human rights. If I were your boss and found you let this slip by, you would be getting the same.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Guys, Is It An Urban Myth Or Are Women With Tats Easier Than Women With None?
Posted: 11/20/2009 10:40:55 PM
I haven't taken any polls and I highly doubt anyone polled would be honest, but I do know this...EVERY and I do mean EVERY female "I know in person" that has a tattoo beyond the tiny hidden ONE could never in anyones stretch of the imagination be called anything less than easily laid. Just buy them a drink, look at them right, or give them a compliment and they will be dragging you down. That is why those women get tattoos, so someone will comment and they have what is in their minds a valid excuse to think you WANT them bad. When reality sets in that you just wanted to use them, then everything is YOUR fault and you are a worthless low life man who used them and lied to them. Same old desperate for attention, Jerry Springer craving, females who like to call themselves women.
 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 115 (view)
 
Do large women like large men?
Posted: 11/20/2009 10:07:53 PM
NO! Large women like really skinny guys!

WOW this is one of the funniest threads I have seen in a long time. I couldn't even get past the 2nd response because I want to answer

I was kidding in the first line, but often it seems true, because you see a lot of heavy women with skinny guys and also heavy men with skinny girls.

I am a little heavier than I want to be, but I am also not anywhere near what should be labelled bbw. I also would not want to be skinny, or especially bone skinny. I do not think it looks good. I am generally attracted to men more like myself, maybe a few pounds heavier than they probably want to be. I think a man with some substance looks good.

Now, that is not to exclude anyone else. It is sort of a case by case basis because what I am really attracted to is a man's personality, good sense and overall intelligence (which does not have to mean education). If that man is skinny, no problem. If he is heavy, no problem. Those two ends of the spectrum are the least likely to ever get my attention unless their personality is right, but when it is, just as with any size of man, his looks and size do not matter at all.

I will give a couple of example that everyone will know.

John Candy...oh man I thought he was very sexy, smart, funny, so cool. His 350 pounds would have never been noticed by me.

Steve Buscemi...ugly as a warty toad and very skinny, but he just has something. I would definitely enjoy dating him.

Okay, I am talking about the personalities that come across on screen, who knows what they were/are really like in person, but you get the idea of what I am saying.

Oh, and that pumped-up, overly muscular look, sooooo not attractive. Don't get me wrong, muscles showing are great, if the muscles are natural and maybe only a little more enhanced by occasional exercise, but the ones that are ripped and obsessively exercise...no amount of personality would make me attracted to them. Of course, there is no danger in that, mostly those types do not have a personality, or it is frighteningly cruel or extremely learning impaired. At least, that is all I have ever encountered.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
what things not to do on a date site
Posted: 11/20/2009 9:27:04 PM
Lawrence,

I read this and meant to come back to respond, then forgot.

Fortunately, my husband was never mean or violent. He was psycho-bizzarre in ways I will not get into much here, but essentially he thought he was God and believed he should have humans sacrificed to him, in the form of children and also women that didn't jump to conform to his wishes with fear and trembling. He believed he contrtolled all government leaders in the world, travelled to different planets daily, could fly and walk through walls. He could fear anyone and everyone into doing anything he wanted, except me and he hated that. In reality I was afraid, but I never let him see it. I acted like, "Oh please, I know you better than that..." You would not believe how many 5 star restaurants he got free meals in. He walked around town in a 3 piece suit, barefoot, rarely showering and with a long untrimmed hair and beard. He carried a briefcase in which he had all of our money in cash, about $7000, that he withdrew from the bank and gave away to the homeless on the streets. Many police that chased him for 2 weeks before catching him said they saw him jump clear over dumpsters and they were actually freaked out by him and a bit frightened. They would come visit me everyday and update me. I saw his eyes glow red in the dark. Except for a high priced gourmet meal about every 4 days, his only daily intake was about 1# of salt, 2 large bags of miniature candy bars and 44+ cups of coffee. The psychiatrist told me that alone would cause mental illness and thought I must be exaggerating due to my worry and upset, until 4 other people testified to the same thing, only worse. For most of our marriage the only way to describe him is best said as being a non-personality.

On a humorous note, and yes you learn to find humor in the freakish stuff, his diet reminded me of a strange alien movie I saw around that time, but he didn't see it, or I would have thought he copied it. Aliens came down and impregnated earth women as they walked in the woods, then the women would consume large amounts of salt and eat or drink about 5# of coffee a day. These things made the alien inside them grow fast and strong. Then, they went back out to the woods after about 9 weeks (their stomachs were HUGE) and gave birth and an alien ship came and took the baby away LOL. I think Elizabeth Montgomery was in it. What a freak show! LOL WOW, what if my ex-husband is an alien....(totally kidding)

Okay, you still haven't changed that profile. You really should. You will be glad you did.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Homemade Liqueurs
Posted: 11/18/2009 8:45:27 PM
Hey, in a very realistic reenactment of a BC era Bethlehem I did trod grapes on a round rock with a depression while only the juices ran down a trough carved into the rock. We did this by firelight and it was soo cool. It was a peaceful starry night. There wer so many people, but it was so realistic that people were so awed that it was nearly silent. The whole town had been built as it is supposed to have been in that time. It was quite an experience.

I still say add more grapes, not cranberries. A lot more grapes. Table grapes are very mild and the skins are needed for that color you are looking for. I know you have them, I was just saying. You say you made a syrup first, then added the grapes??? I cannot remember your first post, but I think you need to leave the grapes to soak in the vodka for a few weeks before adding sugar or syrup. At least all of the recipes I have read say that.

Good Luck Miss Molly. I hope it turns out for you.

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 86 (view)
 
Too small for a condom !?! Then What???
Posted: 11/18/2009 7:58:55 PM
Is he in contruction?
I think I dated that man, once.
It was so small it scared the heck out of me. I was shocked I had that reaction, but I have never seen one that small except on a baby. I was damaged and I will never get over it. I still have nightmares.



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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Maroni's Sauce and Meatballs
Posted: 11/18/2009 6:25:19 PM
Dang, and I always thought Moroni was that angel that dictated to Joseph Smith...

I love a good meatball, large ones.
In some parts of Italy they boil their meatballs, which is what I do. Boil for about 10 minutes, drain them, then put them into the sauce to simmer for an hour before serving. I also use fresh bread crumbs, not dry. Always fresh herbs. And my sauce, like Curly's is only paste, tomato puree, fresh herbs, garlic and a little olive oil.
Soooooooooo good. I far prefer meatballs to a meat sauce.

I love the tiny old lady with orthopaedic shoes, sounds like a little Jewish grandmother of old. I am a Jewish grandmother and don't look anything like that! LOL

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 SmilingSalmon
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Mushroom's
Posted: 11/18/2009 4:10:00 PM
Gordi dawlin, no problem for me, I just had to give you a hard time because I haven't seen you in a long time. LOL
I appreciate any mushroom thread that doesn't involve a can of soup...

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