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 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 95 (view)
 
Obama Administration lies about jobs created or saved.
Posted: 11/24/2009 9:58:26 PM
OK,

I sense we are FINALLY getting around to the actual fact that were all beginning to see the Dire Straits this country is in,.....

I'm NOT laying this Blame on Obama,..he inherited this mess,...but the current outlook from his Policies don't appear to be working,..exactly the opposite....which this Country can not take much more of.


I said we Arizonians were shocked that our state had not started the road work,Our Republican Governor Jan Brewer could have told us,

that was Neopolitanos style,

Democrat Neopolitano would have never done anything so reckless.


I didn't know Neopolitano had any style,..and since when politicians been scared of being wreckless with Taxpayers MONEY ?

And all we have to do is look around, and we see that everything Is sluggish, and it seems that the Government/State, is always LATE in getting something done,..and most time someone "POCKETS" a large wad of CASH.

Where did all that MONEY go to, that was Sent to those Districts,
THAT DON'T EXIST ???

Case in Dirty Politics,..here in Indianapolis,.....our "NEW BICYCLE LANES",...our Daily Newspaper,.;.the "INDIANAPOLIS STAR",..reported that it was going to cost the City of Indianapolis 2 MILLION DOLLARS, to have these Bicycle Lanes Painted.

Me,.being the skeptic that I am,...knew a friend in the Company that got the Contract,
I did a little digging, and found out that the Company won the Contract for only $200,000 Dollars,.....What I want to know is,...wheres that other $1,800,000 ???
Thats Right,...$One Million,Eight Hundred Thousand Dollars,.....went somplace else,
msaybe in a nother fund,.....I cant find out yet.

Who's Pocket,..or Coffer did that money disappear into????

That's exactly why I'm a skeptic,..and don't Trust Politics, nor Politicians,..unless I can see the Good they do.


Your from Indianapolis Indiana ,how many illegals do you have.


I did a quick check,..but its late, and the Office is closed, where I can get the closest information,...but really,....who know how many are ILLEGALS ???

Indianapolis has a HUGE Hispanic Population,...how many of them are ILLEGAL, I havent a clue,..I could guess probably at least 40% or more, but then I could be wrong.

But I must say,..the "LEGALS" here in my neighborhood, are some of the greatest people you could ever meet,..if you have read any of my post about them, you will see my Praise.
Here's some facts I did find,...


Indianapolis police say checking the status of immigrants is outside their jurisdiction. Lt. Lloyd Crowe says officers have no way of knowing if someone is here illegally
http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=50193

(Who's "Jurisdiction" does it fall under ,..if NOT Local Law Enforcement ?)

Last year, Fox news reported that 60 percent of the country's uninsured hospital patients are not U.S. citizens. The cable network also reported that half of those foreign nationals are here illegally


and here's more interesting reading at,..

Americans For Legal Immigration
"LEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DIVERSITY-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS INSANITY"
Post Office Box 33837, Indianapolis IN 46203 0837
http://noillegals.com/

Welcome to the struggle! I can't afford anymore of the "PETERSON PLAN" a magnet that brings ILLEGALS to Indianapolis from Mexico and across the country and then he has the nerve to cut spending by closing swimming pools that our Kids use. He can't even paint the lines on our streets but he can bring more Criminal Aliens and Gangs to Indianapolis while he cuts our Police and Criminal Justices Money. His Lies have been too much for me! They WILL consolidate IPD/MCSD just wait and see. Do we move and let him have his plan to destroy our Hometown? Or do we let him give it to the Mexican Consul FREE of charge as he's doing now?


"Peterson" used to be our Mayor",....and ,..."Used to be our Prosecutor",...
now he's the new Mayors Errand Boy,...

At our new Mayors FIRST Neighborhood Meeting at Public School #54,..the New Mayor "Greg Ballard" wouldn't take direct questions,.the questions were written on a paper, and fielded by his staff,...

One question was the concern of "ILLEGALS",..to which Mayor Ballard replied that he had just returned from the MAYORAL SUMMIT,...and it was the General Consensus among the Nations Mayors that these ILLEGALS were contributing to our Society,..and the States felt like their HANDS WERE TIED,...and until the issue was pressed at the Federal Level, most Mayors would not touch it.

???????

Man, this is THE MAYOR of our City,..and he refuses to address the ILLEGAL Issue unless its forced upon him by the Feds.

Gee,...States like OKLAHOMA said to He!! with that, and they started enforcing the Laws on their books,..and are having tremendous results in getting rid of Illegals, and creating Jobs !,...More States are starting to follow their Example.


Fact,About 40% of the U.S. illegal alien population are "documented aliens," who are commonly known as "visa overstayers."


Thats how they "become" illegals,.....heck,..I gotta admit,...I wouldnt want to go back to a slum, if thats what I was faced with,.,.either....but the Law is the Law.

You go to MEXICO,...as an Illegal,..and break their LAW,...
YOU will find yourself In DEEP DOO DOO.


And we can continue to be at each other's throats, I bet that those who represent us love it, as long as we are fighting among each other they can feel secure that nothing will change but the date and time, mean while tax dollars yours and mine and being used to provide incentives for companies that create jobs overseas,
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I agree. The jobs that are leaving will sink this economy even further.
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We will see nothing from the government but more debate and game playing so we need to take the actions required to convince the business community that we will not tolerate american jobs being out sourced,

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I actually feel like were all starting to get on the same page,..I think we can see that the situation looks gloom, due to the "Actions/Inactions" that our President has, and has NOT took.

Its isnt Rocket Sicence,..he is the Leader, and Spokesman for our Country,..Sworn an Oath, to uphold the Office, and such,..looking out for THE AMERICIAN PEOPLES BEST INTEREST,.....instead of traveling around the world appoligizing for "AMERICAS ARROGANT BEHAVIOUR'',....which is diffently NOT in our best interest,......but lets stick to the point.

And the "POINT" is,...all about JOBS !

What does JOBS have to do with our Country,..our NATION ?

Jobs,....restore the ECONOMY,...Lower Inflation, reduces Debt, reduces the number of Unemployed,... puts Food on the Table, and Gas in our Autos to get us back and forth to these JOBS.

Obama Promised to Create "JOBS",...right ?

Then why is "Unemployment" even higher now ??

And Why,..are Anylist saying that the Obama Administration is even LYING about the Unemployment Rate,...stating that it aorund 10%,..when its actually at 22% ???

Fellas,...I got No Beef with any of you,......

If I make a mistake, and mis quote something, please forgive me, and show me the error of my ways,....but lests top this quibbling amounst ourselfes, and bond together for the common good.

As stated,...look at us,.....arguing back and forth with each other about somthing that isnt mine or your fault,...yet it is distracting us from the real issue at hand.

Yes,...We may or not like Obama,..yes some voted for him, and others did not,...
we all have our reasons why,..but that dosent change the fact that there is NOT enough being done to help this Nation get back on its feet.

I've said that the "Heath Care Bill",... could of,..and should of came later,......
Our Economy should of come FIRST,....Create Jobs, and STOP sending OUR Jobs overseas,....then Bring the TROOPS Home,....

After being successfull in these areas,...Obama could of directed his attention towards a Health Care Bill that wouldnt of been rushed,..it could of been well thought out,..everyone could have a chance to discuss the Bill,..and shaped and formed it into a Package that we could all be PROUD of,.....instead of half of us not liking it, and the other half just wanting to push the d*mn thing through, so Obama would have a Feather in his Cap.


I agree Earl,Boycott,its worked in other places,they outsource because its cheaper for them,well how do you think they feel after they are boycotted,all of a sudden cheaper just doesn't seem as good as 20% loss in their business,slaps um back in line.


Boycott,......Picket,.....DEMAND they keep those Jobs here,....or demand a FINE, on every Company that sends Job over seas..

Lets start looking at b0th Import and Expoprt Fees,,,,and use them to our advantage.

Make it so costly to outsource Jobs over seas,..that it will STOP it, turn it around, and Keep those Jobs here whewre they belong.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 454 (view)
 
Health care
Posted: 11/24/2009 8:32:38 AM
Awwwwwwwwwwwww,

There ya go man !

You've Hit The Nail On The Head !




The shear clumsiness of thinking, lack of ability to make distinctions would indicate brain injury in a sane world.


Our Nation has been sooooooooooooooooooooooo "Dumbed Down",...were Lucky to even be able to "~Think~" at all.

This Health Care Bill has been thrown in our Face, to make us Consentrate on it,..instead of things more IMPORTANT,....like our Economy.

The current Health Care available in the US is NOT the Greatest,...BUT,..it isnt the most Important Concern right now.

What good is "Health Care",..if our Economy goes BUST ???

What good is "Health Care",..if you dont have the Money to pay for it ?

If theres No Jobs available to people who really need the Health Care,..then how are they going to be able to Afford Health Care ?

Health Care is just a distraction,..away from the REAL PROBLEM.

Our Economy,...

In just the blink of an eye,..we can all be in some serious trouble,..and then Health Care
will be nothing more than a Memory.



The bankruptcy of the United States is now certain
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
From Porter Stansberry in the S&A Digest:
http://www.thedailycrux.com/content/3455/Porter_Stansberry/eml

It's one of those numbers that's so unbelievable you have to actually think about it for a while... Within the next 12 months, the U.S. Treasury will have to refinance $2 trillion in short-term debt. And that's not counting any additional deficit spending, which is estimated to be around $1.5 trillion. Put the two numbers together. Then ask yourself, how in the world can the Treasury borrow $3.5 trillion in only one year? That's an amount equal to nearly 30% of our entire GDP. And we're the world's biggest economy. Where will the money come from?

How did we end up with so much short-term debt? Like most entities that have far too much debt - whether subprime borrowers, GM, Fannie, or GE - the U.S. Treasury has tried to minimize its interest burden by borrowing for short durations and then "rolling over" the loans when they come due. As they say on Wall Street, "a rolling debt collects no moss." What they mean is, as long as you can extend the debt, you have no problem. Unfortunately, that leads folks to take on ever greater amounts of debt… at ever shorter durations… at ever lower interest rates. Sooner or later, the creditors wake up and ask themselves: What are the chances I will ever actually be repaid? And that's when the trouble starts. Interest rates go up dramatically. Funding costs soar. The party is over. Bankruptcy is next.


Theres more,..go reads the rest,...I know it sounds like "DOOM & GLOOM",....
Thats because if we dont start paying attention to what matters Most,....there's not going to be any need for a Health Care Bill.

Health Care,..is just the Smoke Screen to cover up whats really happening,..and to divert our attention away from the real crisis.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 89 (view)
 
Obama Administration lies about jobs created or saved.
Posted: 11/23/2009 10:05:05 AM
I'm always surprised when I hear anyone state that their "Shocked" to find out that our "System" is dragging their FEET,..and STALLING,....AND SPENDING MILLIONS,
and STILL,....haven't done anything yet.

Man,...That's,.... "BUSINESS AS USUAL"

Did anyone "HOPE", that when Obama took Office that everything would Magically "CHANGE", over night ?

I guess some people still believe in Fairy Tales, huh ?


Needless to say we were all shocked here just to find out nothing was happening yet and it was end of Oct. and that millions had to be spent just to tell us how we should properly spend the money for infrastructure.It was news to us,explained why no hiring had been going on in those sectors,maybe your towns are the same kind of state contracts stall,or crawl.


Its time to face the Cold Hard Facts,......that's just the way it is,..its the way its always been,...ands it looks like thats the way its always gonna be,..as long as people keep putting BLIND FAITH in a system, that has always failed us when it comes to what matters most.

Should Obama have Bailed out the AUTO INDUSTRY ????

NO!
,..Not when it COST us,..the Citizens of the USA that do NOT work for the Auto Industry,.....how is that helping us ?

It helped the Auto Workers somewhat,...but it did NOT fix the Problem,..and it certainly did not "Create" any Jobs.

Maybe if the Auto Industry would of been forced to re-organize,..and make changes in its leadership, and work force, them maybe we would see some CHANGE,...but not now,...their Jobs have been saved,..at our EXPENSE,...but it didn't give us a Job,..and it isn't going to change how the Auto Industry will continue to run their business.

The Auto Industry has been miss-managed for so long, it was time for a CHANGE,..from the TOP EXECUTIVES, to the Factory Worker.

First,...Why does the Auto Manufacturing Companies produce 15 MILLION Cars per year,..when it is a proven fact that they will only sell 12 MILLION Cars per Year ?

That's GROSS Negligence and Pure WASTE....Mismanagement.

Second,....why does the average Factory worker only WORK about 6 Months out of the year,..yet get Paid for working a FULL YEAR ?

The Unions power and abuse is staggering,....do you know how many people would KILL, to get such a cushy job ?

IF,..the Auto Industry would of been allowed to bottom out,..and everything went "Back To The Drawing Board",..they should of been allowed to file Bankruptcy, and Forced to show a NEW PLAN for operating their Factories, that would clearly show a PROFIT.

Imagine,.if the Top Executives would agree to a Cut in Pay,..the Factory Workers would agree to a Cut in pay,...and everyone would be held accountable for a better quality Automobile,..that gets Better Fuel Mileage,..and to NOT produce MORE CARS than they can sell,...and to NOT have such favorable Perks as they have now,....reduce the number of Sick days,..reduce the number of Unexcused Absences,..and create a better workplace where productivity is consistent, and the workers take PRIDE in the finished product,...and Thank full for their job,..instead of taking everything for granted.

That would be a CHANGE, that we could all be proud of,..and they could of done it on their own,..instead of at the Taxpayers Expense.

I stated that,..

I came up with a Sure Fire Way Obama could make everyone HAPPY, and create MILLIONS of JOB for the unemployed Americans.

ENFORCE the current Immigration Laws,....Hire every able bodied Man available to help round up and DEPORT all these ILLEGALS that's got OUR JOBS,...and send them packing !


To which I got an asinine reply,....

Rogue vigilantism instead of cutting the red tape out of immigration,yes that's the type of jobs we need here,excellent,we can have 30 million armed Americans being vigilantes at our borders,North and South borders.


I didn't say that,...that's your twisted thoughts as to how you can make me look bad, but yet it bounces back at you.

When it comes to immigration,..thats one area where we dont want to "Cut Out The Red Tape",....were overflowing with problems enough already the way it is,.....it should NOT be easier, for "Illegals" to get into our Country,....and it shouldnt be such a problem to get them DEPORTED back to where they come from,...with a STERN Warning, to NOT come back again, UNLESS, its through the Proper channels.

My suggestion was to "Hire every able bodied Man" to help round up and DEPORT the ILLEGALS that are here,..and taking JOBS that belong to people that are here Legally, by being an American Citizen.
"Hire every able bodied Man",.means just that,....people who are able to do that Job, Professionally and Legally,..by the book,...by the LAW,..that is supposed to be enforced.

Just imagine IF Obama would HIRE more ICE Agents,......
That would Create more Jobs.

Just imagine IF Obama would DEPORT ILLEGALS,..........
That would create more Jobs.

Say we enforce the LAWS on the Books,....and Deport Illegals,...and FINE every Employer that is found to Hire said Illegals......

Gee,...Imagine IF there wasn't any JOBS available for Illegals,..except for the ones that have been in existence for Decades,..and those are for DOCUMENTED WORKERS, that are here LEGALLY !

WOW,...that would create somewhere between 12 to 30 MILLION JOBS !

REAL JOBS,..for REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS.

Wouldn't that be wonderful ? Obama's approval rating would go through the roof !
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 400 (view)
 
Gallup Poll
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:53:43 AM
Yes,

The "Approval" Rate for Obama has taken a Nose Dive into a pile of manure,....
right where its belongs.

For someone who Charmed the Pants off of Voters during his campaign,..he sure has lost a lot of his followers, by doing all the wrong things.

Instead of addressing the Economy, the way he should have,..he is trying to get a Health Care Reform Bill passed,..that could, and should of waited untill after he had done somthing Positive about our Economy.

Obama,..is spending MONEY that we do NOT have,....at a faster pace than "Ole George" ever did !

Instead of getting a Withdrawl Plan to BRING OUR TROOPS HOME,..
like he promised,..
he is more worried about granting AMNISTY to MILLIONS of Illegals.

Obama critized "Ole George" for having so many czars,..yet the first thing Obama does,..is hire more czars than "Ole George" ever had.

Obama PROMISED his administration would be TRANSPARAENT,.....and ACCOUNTABLE,....that EVERY BILL that was up to him to vote on would be on his Web Site for FIVE DAYS,..to allow us to view it before he voted on it.

Obamas Web site, has become nothing but the biggest JOKE any President has ever had,....clearly spreading LIES,..False Information, and NOT allowing the Bills to be posted on his site for FIVE DAYS,..like he stated.

The FIRST thing Obama does when he takes Office,..is to seal his Records,.....and refuse to open them, even tho he is asked to do so...

Wheres the TRANSPARENCY he Promised ???

Wheres the "ACCOUNTABILITY" ???

Now,...Obama has a Day in COURT this coming Jan,..to determin if he is even quailified to serve as President of our Unites States.......

Obamas "Approval",..and "Popularity" just keeps dropping the longer he is in Office.

Lets look at the latest I've read on the Poll.



Wenzel Poll: Obama Job Approval Rating at 44%
Nearly 60% of independents give the President negative marks for his work
October 28, 2009

http://wenzelstrategies.com/?page_id=735

COLUMBUS, OHIO – The job approval rating of President Barack Obama now stands at 45%, with 51% saying they think he is doing only a fair or a poor job, the latest Wenzel Strategies national survey shows.

The telephone survey shows that 28% believe he is doing an excellent job, while 38% believe he is doing a poor job, giving him a net “job approval rating of Minus 10.

Nine months into his term of office, Obama maintains a positive job approval rating of 81% of Democrats, which shows strong but not overwhelming backing from his own political party. Among Republicans, just 10% gave him a positive job approval rating, while 85% of GOPers gave him a negative rating. While 56% of Democrats gave Obama an “excellent” rating – the most positive rating possible – 69% of Republicans gave him a “poor” rating – the most negative rating possible.

Among political independents, sentiment leans to the negative when considering Obama’s job approval. Just 38% gave him a positive job rating, while 58% of independents believe his performance is either just fair or poor. Of those, 43% of independents gave him a poor rating for his work in the White House so far.


Gee,..Obama doesnt even have an overwhelming majority of his own party backing him.

Must be tuff to be in his shoes, considering his Job Approval Rating is only at 44%.

Lets see,....if there was one thing he could do right now, to drive his "APPROVAL" rating through the roof,..it would be,.... to BRING OUR TROOPS HOME !

Yup,....that would do it......Uh Huh,...Yup,.....Imagine,...Obama bringing the TROOPS home,..like he Promised to do.

Wouldnt that be something.....I bet the TROOPS would LOVE OBAMA too !

But then again,.if he did that,..he might be FORCED to keep the other Promises he made too,....Now we just cant have that now, can we....

A President that Keeps his Promises ??????

UN-HEARD OF !
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 78 (view)
 
Obama Administration lies about jobs created or saved.
Posted: 11/22/2009 11:23:36 AM
Wow,

You know I started thinking about how Obama could really improve our Economy, and create Jobs,...

Because,..I havent seen ONE,...NOT ONE,..."Job",...thats been "Created",..by anyone.

Or any "Improvement" made by the so called "Stimulas",....

I sure do see a lot of "LIES" that been created tho,......

Obamas Administration states that Unemployment is around 10%,..while others claim that its actually at about 22%.

Wow,....thats a BIG Difference. Another LIE,...huh.

Do "LIES" create Jobs ?

No,...didnt think so.

But yeah,....I came up with a Sure Fire Way Obama could make everyone HAPPY, and creat MILLIONS of JOB for the unemployed Americans.

ENFORCE the current Immigration Laws,....Hire every able bodied Man available to help round up and DEPORT all these ILLEGALS thats got OUR JOBS,...and send them packing !

That would create 12 to 30 MILLION JOBS FOR UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS,....

What a wonderfull way to help improve our Economy, ...Create Jobs, ...Lower Crime Rates, ...Improve our Quailty of Live, and the Quality of our Health,...all by simply enforcing the LAW !

Obama would truly indeed look like a "Saviour",..and at least he could actually do something good for the USA,..instead of just trying to give it away.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Obama Administration lies about jobs created or saved.
Posted: 11/20/2009 3:45:48 PM
Shhhhhhh,...Shhhhhhhh,...Shhhhhhhhh..........
Your making sense,...be care full or you'll awaken the Obama Puppets.

Obama supporters DONT want to hear anything that makes sense,.....

Be Warned,

Here,..Thar be Monsters !
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 129 (view)
 
Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
Posted: 11/20/2009 2:35:36 PM
Oh Please,..dont pass up on the next Video......

You should all see this,..its got the "Seal of Approval", by your beloved President,....
Barack Obama,.....

Obama has said all along he is for "Partial Birth Abortions",....

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION

Im sure YOU will be too after watching such a wonderful demonstration of a Partial Birth Abortion at,....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi6SEW98ocw&feature=related

Your TAX Dollars hard at work, providing population control.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 123 (view)
 
Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
Posted: 11/20/2009 10:06:09 AM
This is the only reason the State,...should provide Funds for an Abortion,..and seeing as how its already covered, there was no need for me to mention it.
(yet you attck me for not mentioning it)

The "State",..get it,....NOT the Government,..and certainly NOT the President.
The Government funds the State, and the State uses those Funds for what ever their needs may be.


Since 1976, Congress has annually approved the Hyde Amendment, which bars the use of federal Medicaid funds to pay for abortions except in cases of rape, incest or danger to the woman's life. Some states, however, use state funds to pay for procedures in other cases for poor women...


What I refer to, are people who do NOT deserve to have a Federal Funded Health Care Program, give them an Abortion, simply because they cant use common sense and use Protection, and be responsible human beings.

I know that's asking a lot,...huh ???

Yet Obama INSIST that his Health Care Reform Bill,....ALLOW, for Abortion,
in any case.......another waste of the Taxpayers Dollar.

Do you want to have to help pay for someones Abortion, when they decide they should have one,..after their carelessness ????

I doubt it.

I myself,...have always accepted the responsibility for my actions.....my Children has never had need, or want of anything, that I could not provide.

Abortion has NO PLACE in our Health Care Bill,..its NOT right, its NOT Moral,..its MURDER in the eyes of GOD, and in the eyes of any Decent, Moral, Human Being.

No wonder so many people disprove of this Heath Care Plan.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 122 (view)
 
Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
Posted: 11/20/2009 9:44:45 AM

I read this morning, that School Children, can, and do leave their schools,..to go get Abortions,..without their Parents knowledge,..or consent.......



Really , where did you read that at?

The do have a thing called a "Search Engine",...learn to use it.


Schools let students seek secret abortions
Parents not notified when 12-year-olds obtain 'confidential' medical procedures
November 18, 2009
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116315

SACRAMENTO – A 12-year-old girl is prohibited from bringing aspirin to California public schools without a note from her mother or father – but in many California districts she may sign herself out of classes, leave her junior-high campus without parental permission, secretly have an abortion and return to school before the end of the day – and her own family may be none the wiser.

Parents and educators across the state have been in heated debate over school policies allowing children to be excused during class time without parental notification for "confidential medical services" such as abortions, birth control, and drug and mental health services.


Yes,...if California leads the way,..other states will follow.

There's more to read,..I just posted a small clip.

Heres more from google, under the search title,....
Schools let students seek secret abortions

www.ednews.org/.../schools-let-students-seek-secret-abortions.html
www.covenantnews.com/abortion/archives/063381.html
www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10290
www.ifeminists.net/news.php?item.14729.3
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2389846/posts

THE PLAIN TRUTH
God's Hand Behind Today's News
www.plaintruth.com/.../schools-let-12-year-old-students-seek-secret-abortions.html


THE WOODWARD REPORT
http://www.thewoodwardreport.com/#/secret-school-abortions/4537001858

WND reported in 2004 when California Attorney General Bill Lockyer issued an opinion that said schools are required to enact confidentiality policies. But amid a grass-roots campaign organized by a traditional-family lobby group, Lockyer backed off his opinion.

McReynolds said many parents aren't aware of guidelines at their childrens' schools. But he said all parents should ask their own school administrators whether their children may be excused without consent, even families who live outside California.

"It's really important for every parent, whether their kids are in public or private school, to find out what the school policies are," he said. "You never know. See what kind of answers you get."


All these LINKS are bacicaly 100% the same thing,..the same Story, by the same Reporter.......anyone could find out this exact information, if they wanted to look it up.

Its a shame that people want to discredit someones post, without so much as looking it up themselves.....
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 433 (view)
 
Health care
Posted: 11/20/2009 9:15:10 AM
A Modern Day Robin Hood,......

A Pied Piper of Poo Poo,..


No you're stealing from the rich to give to the poor.


Obama said he was going to "Re-Distribute The Wealth",..this is what you get.

Why,....do you PUNISH the people who have either gained an elevated status in the Tax Bracket,..and are Taxed more than the Lower Income people,..through their Hard Work,.or ability to use their "HEAD" to advance in this world ???

I am NOT in that elevated Tax Bracket,..but I don't think "The Rich" should have to pay my way in this world,....just like I don't think my Tax Dollars should go to fund Welfare Programs for people too lazy to work.

I have Paid for Health Care every week of my Working Life,..and its NOT my fault the system is Bankrupt, and they have to look for other means to create Monies to pay for said Health Care.

I do NOT even use the Health Care I've paid for my entire life,..of course I could if I wanted too,....But I use the VA Hospital because I have that right, I get great service, they have saved my life TWICE,...and its within 10 Min's of my home,...

Why should I seek Health Care elsewhere ?

Do you know WHY their PUSHING the passage of a HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL ?

Its because of the "illegals",..and the tremendous burden they have put on our Hospitals,...causing DOZENS to go Bankrupt, and close their doors in California,..and DOZENS more, about to.

The present Health Care system is OK in many peoples view,...if their employed and their Company offers it, many take it,...or find a Insurance Company that has rates more to their liking.

The elderly on fixed income that have to "Co-Pay" often complain because of the high Prices they have to shell out for their Medications,...and that's Understandable,....

If,.....Congress would address the issue of the Cost of Medications, and demand that Pharm Companies roll back their Prices,..there wouldn't be such a problem.

If Companies like CONSECO,....would NOT of PRICE GOUGED Senior Citizens to the tune of Billions,..(and got caught doing so),..then their wouldn't be such High Premiums.

Insurance Companies do a lot of Price Gouging,..to cover the cost of Malpractice Lawsuits,....if those lawsuits were more closely defined,..there wouldn't be so many of them,..which they are trying to address.

If the Medical Providers paid more attention to their patients, and paid more attention to each and every one under their care,..there wouldn't be so many cases of Malpractice,..and it wouldn't be so costly.

Hospitals do provide Health Care based on a Sliding Fee Coverage Plan,..and a minimum Co Pay,..so as to provide Coverage to every one that eligible for such.

A lot of people,...just absolutely REFUSE to buy Heath Care Coverage, because of several reasons,...
1. Their Healthy,..and therefor don't need it.
2. They have MONEY, to pay for an Office Visit, Treatment, and Medication.(If Needed)
3. Or they just simply cant afford it, due to Financial problems.

This "Health Care Bill",...should of been well thought out long ago.

Only NOW,..that the Country is almost Bankrupt,..do they want to address the issue.

WHY ?,...because of the "illegals",..and the burden they are causing to our system.

Obama said that no illegal will receive Federal Funded Health Care under the new Health Care Plan,...all the while pushing for a plan to give Amnesty to these "illegals",
so they will no longer be "illegals" and therefore able to get Health Care Coverage,
which supposedly will result in NOT being such a Burden, and $COST$ to our system.

Instead it will add another 12 to 30 Million people to an already over burdened system,
who will for the most part pay a small "Co-Payment",..or get FREE Health Care Coverage,...like so many of them do already.

A new "Health Care Reform Bill",..is going to only add to the already existing problem,
by creating a Bigger Problem.

Yeah,...Just Keep throwing gas on a fire to try and put it out.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 116 (view)
 
Obama disapproval on health care up to 52 percent
Posted: 11/19/2009 3:02:01 PM
It seems that wither or not your Pro Choice, or Pro Life,....the New Health Care Package will include Federal Funded Abortion.


I for one hope the obama plan fails ...now before everyone on the left goes apeshit..let me explain. I KNOW the health care system needs to be revamped. I know it will not be easy, but to send us as a nation trillions more in debt, we need to SLOW down and concentrate on fixing it, not just throwing more money at it.


Thats the Governments answer for everything,.....Just keep throwing Money at it.

Same as with Abortion,...Obama stated that Babies are Abuseing mothers,..or something like that,...Obama is "Anti Baby",..and "Pro Abortion",....and of course,...it got included in the "New Health care Bill",.....

even tho it has NO PLACE,...and NO RIGHT being in there.


On a controversial issue that threatened to derail the House-passed bill, Reid would allow the new government insurance plan to cover abortions and would let companies that receive federal funds offer insurance plans that include abortion coverage.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul


A mother desiring an Abortion, should have to face the reality that if she cant keep her legs closed,..or at least use "Protection",..then its her responsibility to pay for an Abortion,..NOT the Governments.

I read this morning, that School Children, can, and do leave their schools,..to go get Abortions,..without their Parents knowledge,..or consent.......

Who do you think is behind that,..and who do you think Foots the Bill ???

Should the Taxpayers,.pay into a system,...so people can get Abortions,..that could of easily been prevented, and not be such a costly burden to our Health Care System ?

No wonder Taxpayers are disaproving this Health care Plan,....but I bet it passes.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 347 (view)
 
Health care
Posted: 11/19/2009 2:11:20 PM

12) Make the system go bankrupt

IE Social Security - Bankrupt

Medicare - Bankrupt

Medicaid - Bankrupt

Post Office - Bankrupt

U.S. Govt - Bankrupt


Makes Perfect sense to me.

At least thats the Forecast for the Future I see.

Of course I'd love to be wrong.

Why,...in all this time,..have we NOT had an Elected Official(s) come up with a way to Save the Economy,..instead of do it greater harm ?

(Simple,..Because CONGRESS wont allow it.)

Do you ever get the feeling that its all part of "The Plan" ?

Bankrupt America,..combine Canada, Mexico and the United States together,.....
throw in a Health Care Package,..some New Currency,..and a Dictator Puppet,....
and then we have a New Era !

The "Era" of being Slave Labor for our "New" Boss, while we toil away doing What They Want Us To,..while they bask in the Limelite.

All "Unemployed",..will immeditly be put to Work, constructing Bridges,..Toll Roads,... Buildings,...Homes,...Apts,...Sewers,...Sidewalks,....picking up Trash,...etc....

Everyone will have to WORK,..or they dont eat,...

The Money for Retirement you had stashed away,...was lost in the Collaspe of the Stock Marlet, and closing of 90 % of the Banks.

After the majority of Banks go under, there will only be a select few remaining,.....all Owned by our "New" Government.

Get ready for your "New" Gas Ration Card,..your "New" Food Stamp/Debit Card,...your "New" Energy Assistance Card,...your "New" JOB Card",...
and get ready for your "New" Health Care Medical Card,....

Brought to you Folks by "Rockefeller - Goldman Saks - Bilderburg - Rothchild - JP Morgan and Company".
(Sorry if I left someone out)
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Obama Administration lies about jobs created or saved.
Posted: 11/18/2009 11:24:14 AM
I have to disagree,..


I find it funny....The obama administration LIES about jobs created and even sends money to NON EXISTENT congressional districts...has spent more money than all previous admins combined...


Tho I have to agree with the statement,...I just don't find it "funny",...
TRUE, ....yes,..funny, ...No.

BUT,...Just ONE Question, Please ?
WHERE DID THAT $~MONEY~$ GO ???

Yes,..taxes will be raised, even tho it was just another LIE ,...that they would only raise Taxes on people that make over $250,000,..Pure BULL.

Our Debt is increasing at an alarming rate,..yet a lot of Obama supporters refuse to admit it, agree to it,..or even admit to seeing it.


a very good portion of this nation..are IDIOTS AND THEY FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP


People now a days, are so gullible, and ready to believe anything,..such as in the case of Obama "Can Do No Wrong",....or that,..."Obama Tells NO LIES",...

Yeah,..right.

Even a FOOL, can see that Obama is just a continuation of the United States spiraling downwards deeper and deeper into DEBT, and even after 7 Amnesties,..were still flooded with illegal immigrants,..and Obama wants to grant Amnesty,.....again.

When will the People of America ever learn from past Mistakes ?????

Probably never,...the affairs of Politics and Politicians is so muddled behind smoke and mirrors that its difficult to see beyond the "Hope & Change" that we were promised.

By the way,.....Where is the "Hope & Change" ??? More and more Americans are becoming disalusioned, and starting to see the faults in this Administration.

Politics is a dirty Business,....History has not been kind,..and a lot of current day Politicians in the Senate and Congress are examples of the worst sort, filling the halls and seats with their greed and lust for that loft perch, above us "Commoners".

For the most Part,..we have nothing in common with those elected officials that's supposed to be looking out after their constituents best interest,..not theirs,..but Greed Corrupts,..and Absolute Greed, Corrupts Absolutely.

Both Parties, have joined forces to usher in the coming one world government,..the Dem's and Republicans are not a 2 Party System anymore, they both jump sides and vote accordingly as to what power it will align them with, and what benefit it will bring.
Just another day of "Lining Their Pockets With Gold",..and another step up the ladder of Success,......

While we, the American Citizens, still linger at the bottom of the barrel, fighting tooth and nail against each other showing our support for the party we "~think~" we believe in,...
useless arguments in an Arena where we don't even matter.

The so called "Stimulus" didn't create anything except DEBT.

The "Cash For Clunkers" mostly stimulated Foreign Car Sales,..not the American Auto Companies.

But the LIES about creating Jobs and saving Jobs,..was enough for Obama supporters to proudly "~think~" their trust is put in the right place.

Sadly,...mistaken.


The next 3 years are going to sink our future generations into a debt they can not pay.


Sadly,...TRUTH.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 165 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:20:15 PM
Well,..in my honest opinion,...if I were drowning,...I wouldnt care who's arm it was that reached out to save me, I'd be Thankfull.

If I was on the Operating Table due to some unforseen emergengy, I wouldnt care who's scalpel saved me.

If I was in a shootout,..thats a different story,...I'd rather have the Military save me.

Why ?


If YOU were in that room and Hasan started shooting at YOU; would you prefer that the soldiers in the room were armed OR would you prefer to have to wait for the Police???


See for yourself,..and read a well respected mans thoughts about this tragidy.


Ignatius Piazza: The Swiss and Israelis Must Think We’re Idiots…

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2009/11/12/ignatius-piazza-the-swiss-and-israelis-must-think-were-idiots/


One Picture, is worth a thousand words.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 159 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/16/2009 11:38:20 AM
Obviously your claim to have had "contact" with "various different branches of the military all your life" must be awful limited, to say such a thing as the following statement,...



But that's not their fault. It's what they're trained to do ... shoot at people and ask questions later.


NOT TRUE !

Our United States Military Personal have been Taught, Trained, and actually achieve a higher level of professional "Control" ,..."Assesment",..",..."Pressure Under Fire",..
and "Following Orders",...than you give them Credit for.

They are NOT taught to just go in and "Shoot Em Up",..or "Shoot First and Ask Questions Later",.......

Often times these men and women of the Unites States Military are under strict ORDERS, to NOT FIRE,....even if Fired UPON.

That was Exactly THE RULES of ENGAGEMENT in Vietnam, on many Patrols that our Service Men had to follow.

When sent out on Patrol,..often times the RULES of ENGAGEMENT were to NOT RETURN FIRE WITHOUT PERMISSION.

That SUCKED.

If the Patrol came "Under Fire",..the Radioman would have to contact their Post to ask for Permission to "Return Fire",..their Post would have to contact Base Command,...Base Command would have to contact Head Quarters,..Head Quarters would have to contact Distric Command,...and so forth,..then the calls would have to be returned back to Head Quarters, back to Base Command,..back to the Post, then finally back to the Patrol in the Field,.....and often times these Soliders were told to NOT RETURN FIRE,...even tho they were taking fire and Casualties.

It Sucked. A lot of Lives were lost because of the RULES of ENGAGEMENT,..and having to Follow the CHAIN OF COMMAND....but it was the RULES, and they followed them.

Our US Military Men and Women are trained far beyond the normal level of Local Police.

If you actually had any Military Training, you would know that, and Understand that if only some of those Victims would of been ARMED,..the "Body Count" would Never of been such a disaster.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 299 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/16/2009 8:59:04 AM
I must say,...Im NOT blaming Obama for our presence in this so called War,..but his "Help" in ending it would really increase his standing in my book.


When peoples' lives are at stake, you certainly do NOT rush into a situation without knowing all you can.


When peoples lives are at stake,..you certainly don't delay, and continue to keep their lives at stake either.

From the looks of things, this is just another Vietnam, and all souls lost have been for naught. (again)

The Troops should of never been sent over there in the first place,....its been one LIE after another.

Obama said he was against the War, and stood on the Platform that he would end the war and bring the troops home.

Now were still in this darn mess,..and even tho Obama is being very reserved about sending Troops, he needs to consider that sending fewer troops will only kill more of our guys in country,....

Whats he to do ???

What Objective, do we hope to gain by our continued presence ???

Who are we looking for this time ???

Are we still searching for Osama, in a false hope of capturing him,..still ???

Are we looking for the Taliban ???

Are we looking for Al Qaeda ???

Al-Qaida / Al-Qaeda (the Base)
al Qadr
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/al-qaida.htm
After al-Qaeda’s September 11, 2001, attacks on America, the United States launched a war in Afghanistan to destroy al-Qaeda’s bases there and overthrow the Taliban, the country’s Muslim fundamentalist rulers who harbored bin Laden and his followers. “Al-Qaeda” is Arabic for “the base.”

In an al-Qaeda house in Afghanistan, New York Times reporters found a brief statement of the “Goals and Objectives of Jihad”:

■Establishing the rule of God on earth
■Attaining martyrdom in the cause of God
■Purification of the ranks of Islam from the elements of depravity
In 1998, several al-Qaeda leaders issued a declaration calling on Muslims to kill Americans—including civilians—as well as “those who are allied with them from among the helpers of Satan.”

(seems like these guys need to die, so I support a real effort behind helping them meet their God)

Are we looking for "Insurgents" ???
The longer we stay there, the more people become insurgents.
How do we discover who is an insurgent, and who's not ?

The longer our troops are over there,..the more we will loose,..for what ???

You do NOT go into War, unless you absolutely have too.

Were supposed to have a "Game Plan",..an "Objective",...and were supposed to have an "Exit" strategy,......where are they now ???

We don't have one.

You know why ???

Because CONGRESS,....simply REFUSES,..to implement one.

CONGRESS,.....is wanting to continue to KILL our Troops off, in an attempt that we don't lose Face in this war.

If we were to pull out we might loose a little "face",..to some,.....but then again it might send the example that we realize its time to pull our Troops and stop the loss of lives of our Military personal that involved over there, in this quagmire that should of never been started in the first place,....or it should of been over by now.

Why Continue in our efforts, when its been proven to be nothing but a failure ?

Must we continue to lose American Lives, just to "Save Face" ?

Or shouldn't we accept the fact our mere presence there just escalates the situation, and BRING OUR TROOPS HOME !

HOW MANY MORE MUST DIE, JUST TO PROVE A POINT ?

The "Point" has been rendered moot,..there isn't a "Point" in our Troops being there.

These people must come to grips with their problems on their own, they REFUSE to accept the fact were living in the 21st Century.

There's either 2 way to solve this dilemma,......

Either get serious, and send 400,00 to 800,000 Troops over there to Police the place,
and accept the loss of a lot more lives, and collateral damage, and look like a Tyrant in doing so.

Or,...

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME, LICK OUR WOUNDS, AND LEARN FROM THIS MISTAKE.

Obviously we didn't learn from Vietnam,..maybe we will from this one.

But you know what ?

As long as the Rich Ruling Elite continues to Run This Country, and its NOT THEIR CHILDREN were sending off to WAR,..and its NOT THEIR CHILDREN DYING,......
it just going to be "Business As Usual".

OBAMA,..could change that,..if he really wanted to,...Obama could say,....

I PROMISED TO BRING OUR TROOPS HOME IF I WERE ELECTED PRESIDENT
AND THAT'S WHAT WERE GOING TO DO !


But Obama has found out who Really Runs This Country,..and by abiding with them in their continuation of this WAR,...but NOT sending the required Troops needed to quell this unrest, and insurgency,....is just going to continue to put our Troops in Harms Way, and lessen their chances of success, and increase the number of dead Soldiers coming home.

Neither way is NOT acceptable to me,..we have already lost too many lives to simply give up and come home,...but to stay another day, and lose yet another live is still totally unacceptable.

So what do we do ?

First,...we DON'T start an unnecessary War,....and we don't go to War, unless it is well thought out, and we have a Game Plan to Win...and we Win it,...not just drag our feet and never send in enough troops to achieve our objective.

In this case, there should of never been one solider set foot on foreign soil,..it was WRONG to start with,...its still WRONG !
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 143 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/15/2009 6:40:11 PM
You do know that people in the Military are Trained under Combat situations,..and know how to handle themselves under Fire.


Authorities arrived and shot Hasan. If everyone had a gun we have no idea in the confusion how many inoccent bystanders might have been hit by stray gun fire or because others may have been mistaken that there were multiple shooters.


Yeah,.....OH YEAH,...The "Police" finally show up,..after this Nut Job has already SHOT 43 People,....Killing 13 of them.

If there were more armed personal on Base, this Nut Job wouldn't of been able to shoot so many,..and there would be a lot fewer dead.

Give our MILITARY some Credit, they deserve it !
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Controlling Ravenous Garden Snails
Posted: 11/13/2009 7:33:14 AM
Im glad that someone else knows about "Diatomaceous Earth",...but dont worry about useing it sparingly, a liberal amount works best, and your supposed to apply it again after 7 days for indoor use,....and after it rains for outdoor use.

The stuff is supposed to work in 48 Hours,..if you made it look like the ground was covered with Snow, then you shouldnt of had any problem,.....

Call PERMA GUARD,...and ask them which type is best to use for SLUGS,....there are different types,..some add Pyrethrum and Piperonyl butoxide is to irritate the bug, in use as an Insectiside,....PERMA GUARD offers both,..with, and without,..as their web site says,....


As the Pyrethrum and Piperonyl butoxide becomes inactive after three months once applied these products do not contain persistent chemicals harmful to the environment and to higher forms of life, to which insects become immune -- it is a natural insecticide. Perma-Guard products are a much needed revolution for pest control. These products are certain death to insects. Moreover, on any surface, these natural pesticide products have a remarkable repellency factor. As long as it is present, insects tend to stay away, making a serious infestation unlikely. Also, the more it is used, the more an environment is created that tends to make insects feel unwelcome.


The stuff is Dirt Cheap,....our supplier here in Indiana charged $21.96 for a 50lb Bag.
it was about $23.00 with tax,....thats a lot of Product, for very little money.

PERMA GUARD is the distributor you need to contact,..here is your info for Canada.

CANADA

Bio Ag Consultants
1400 Greenwood Hill Rd.
P.O. Box 189, Wellesley, Ont.
Canada N0B 2T0
Toll Free 1-800-363-5278
Local: (519) 656-2460, (519) 656-2481
Fax: (519) 656-2534


Remember, ask for PERMA GUARD "Diatomaceous Earth"

To view their Home Page,..go to

http://perma-guard.com/index.html

I bought the 50lb Bag of Food Grade "Diatomaceous Earth", to use as an Indoor and Outdoor Pest Control,..it is non toxic, perfectly safe to use around Children, and Pets,
and it is even used to get rid of "Worms" and "Parasites" in Cats, Dogs, Cattle, Horses,
and even Humans.

It works perfect on Cats & Dogs furry coats to kill Fleas and Ticks,..and in the garden, it is perfect for Slugs.

Not sure what the Shipping Cost would be for you,..but it was actually more than the Bag itself,..so we drove to our Supplier to pick it up, and saved some money.

Of course you will need an applicator, and PERMA GUARD offers them too at a reasonable cost.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 122 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/13/2009 7:07:07 AM

First... there is already a thread specifically about why... for what reason... it is in the off-topic forum and is recieving plenty of discussion...



Well, I did a "Search" on "FT HOOD",...and I only came back with 3 hits on POF,.....
these 3.


1.) Politics Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control

2.)Broken Hearts 26 y.o. left by wife / childhood sweetheart....advice?

and,...

3.)Nova Scotia Childhood after a few years

Go figure, huh ?

But if you do a Search on "Gun Control", were flooded with them.

I thinks its sad, were even mentioning Gun Control in a thread about these tragic Murders,...if anything,...there should, and has been the mentionm that More people should of been armed, and less people would of been harmed.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 224 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:52:30 AM

Well, I think I agree with you on one thing, Dance. This war--it won't be won. We can stay there and stabalize the region and get bled dry, or we can pull out and walk away and lick our wounds. Either one sucks, but the latter is more intelligent, imho.


This WAR, was not intended to be WON,...if it was intended to of been Won we would of had a "Game Plan", and sent enough Troops to achieve our Goals...it would be best to cut our losses, and stop the insanity.

It looks like it was just another excuse to kill off our young Military personal, and allow
people like Dlck Cheney and Halburton to make Billions of Dollars for being a WAR PROFITEER......The "Abuse",.."Mis-Use",..and often times "NOT USED" Supplies is outrageous,....

I watched Videos of new , and slightly used equipment being destroyed, in order to allow asking for more in their nest years Budget.

Military personal were NOT allowed to Wash their clothes,...they HAD to use the Civilian Contractors "LAUNDRY",..at $100 a Pop.

This is NOT Obama dropping the Ball,..it had already been dropped when he got it.

Obama should make haste to keep his promise to get us out of this continued War.


You could have a point, just like I could have a point if I said the good professor was trying to throw his weight around and found out the hard way that he wasn't such a heavyweight after all.


After it was all said and done, the Truth finally came to light,..the Officer "Crowley" was acting in the same manner any good Officer would of acted,..It was neither racist, nor abusive.

Yet Gates was incensed and kept throwing his weight and anger around,..even following Crowley out side continuing his rant against the Officer and bring up his "Brand" of Racism,..until the Officer had to do place Gates under arrest.

The fault of Obama, was saying the Officer acted "Stupidly",....

Obama should of kept quiet until all the facts were known, and even then his judgment should be reserved, and kept in Private, because the matter was NOT one of Presidential concern,..Personal "Yes", consider Obama is supposed to be Friends with gates.

If Gates would of been more Professional and understanding that the Officer was looking out for Gates best interst, and just doing his job, and not went on one of his Rants, he never would of been arrested,.....his own actions was the major factor in his arrest.

Obama inherited a mess,....one where you don't want to "Drop The Ball",..he is under the Public eye, and everything he says and does is a reflection on his character and his integrity,..so he best learn to keep his personal feeling to himself, until he at least knows how to address an issue.

Then maybe so many people wouldnt consider he is dropping the ball.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 117 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/12/2009 4:24:20 PM

If you feel as your quote above indicates why did you write the rest of this blog?


To show EXACTLY, what this Thread should of been about,....the reasoning behind this tragic event,... or lack of,...the Dead, ... the Injured,... the Families,... and the Horror.

NOT, about Gun Control,.....

in case you and the others dont know it,....there are several
GUN CONTROL Threads already started where anyone can express their views concerning such,....and ANOTHER GUN CONTROL THREAD IS NOT NEEDED.,..and is NOT supposed to be started if there is another Thread already covering the matter,..according to POF,....(which there is several).

Too bad this thread is more worried about Gun Control, than the loss of these lives.

Instead of your personal attack against my reply (like YOU always do),..why dont you show some human compassion towards the dead, and the injured, instead of worrying about me, or my reply ?
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 360 (view)
 
for the gun control people
Posted: 11/12/2009 4:11:39 PM
Music, Hollywood and The Movie Industry doesnt help,

You cant turn on a TV or rent/buy a DVD unless it has some real good Special Effects of Gun Toting Bad Guys, and the Good Guys who go after them.....with lots of Bombs, Bodies and Explosions,...those are the things that sell.

And Music,...encourging Violence and Hatred,....

The more advance our High Society becomes, the more barbaric our Low Life gets.

While High Society sips the Finest, their only worry is will Junior get into Princeton, Harvard, or Yale ?

The Low Life downs another 40 OZ, and packs Heat, in case some other Crew comes rollin through the hood.

Mean while, the middles class,....whats left,..is caught between the Cross Hairs....

Removing , Banning Guns,..doesnt stop people from committing crimes, nor Murder,
and it stops innocent people from being able to protect themselves and their Loved ones.

Criminals, will continue to get Guns,..or make them, if Guns are outlawed,..then we will truly be at their mercy.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 115 (view)
 
Ft Hood Incident Highlights Dangers of Gun Control
Posted: 11/12/2009 2:19:36 PM
Its sad, that we couldn't of just started a Thread concerning the incident at Ft Hood, without bringing in another discussion with it.

Why couldn't we of just commented on the incident at Ft Hood, and left Gun Control ,out of it ?

The issue of GUN CONTROL has already been Debated on this Forum and has no place being included in this Thread....but here it is anyway.

This Thread should of been about Ft Hood, the Military men and women, the senselessness of such a Tragic event,......the reasoning behind the shooters motive, and IF there actually was one.

All I know is that a number of our own Military Service Members, and one civilian is DEAD,..and 30 others wounded ?

How did this Happen ?

Why did this Happen ?

The shooter,...Major Nidal Milak Hasan ,...went off the deep end, and just started shooting anyone and everyone.

Why ?

Its been said that "the Army knew this guy "Major Nidal Milak Hasan" had made 20 efforts to contact Al Quida recruiters",...

That the reason "Major Nidal Milak Hasan" was not removed from the Army because his superiors at Walter Reed would be accused of Discrimination ?

What kind of reasoning is that?

The same kind of reasoning that prohibited Airline Security to stereotype Muslims at the Airports ?

Somethings gotta change.

Maybe we need to look at how our Military is ordered to do their job in other countries,....and how they view us,...

I understand that "Anti American" sentiment is due to our Forces randomly dropping Bombs on Innocent Civilians,

Our Troops killing of Innocent Civilians,...Men,...Women,...Children,... in their Village's,.. while doing "Sweeps",..and when in a "Firefight",....

and we are the ones to Blame ?

Is this one of the reasons Major Nidal Milak Hasan went off the deep end ?

I doubt it, but in this day and age where you get to "Point the Finger",..and lay the "Blame" on everyone except the person responsible, anything is possible.

How did one man, with only 2 Pistols,..shoot so many people ?

How many Extra Clips did he have ?....Must of been a lot, or else this guy is an Excelent Marksman,..he must of NOT missed 1 Shot,..or else theres something Fishy going on here too.

Ft Hood is a United States Military Base, and is supposed to be Secure, or at least we thought.

How long did this incident last ?

Was some of the people hit by "Friendly Fire" ?

Who are the 2 other men being questioned, yet not charged yet ?

Yeah,..you havent heard about these "2 Other Men",.have you ?......I didnt , untill I started reading about it.

I've read as much as I can , before my eyes started hurting, and only one news item said there was "2 Other Men" being questioned.

Why is there so little known, and sketchy at best ?

Because this is an "In House" Investigation,..done by our Military, and we will only know what they want us to know, when they want us to know it.

This Tragedy may well "trigger", Pun Intended, a backlash on Gun Control, but at least for right now,..cant we let our Hearts and Minds be occupied with Sorrow, for those fallen men and women,..the injured, and their Family's?
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 159 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/11/2009 8:46:40 AM
Lets consider this,
Comparing Obama and Clinton together, does NOT help Obama, in my humble thoughts.

If you have payed attention to any of my Post, you'll know that I am NOT a fan of Politics, nor Politicians,...and as far as I'm concerned about the two of them, I say that,
"Bed Bugs of A Feather, Tend To Flock Together"
so I wouldn't be surprised if Obama is taking lessons from Bill & Hillery.

Ok,...you got someone that is not an Obama supporter to say,...

I will have to say that the Obama did a good job on that one.


You got me giving "Credit Where Credits Due", to Obama, as far as from what I have heard concerning this FT Hood incident, and I haven't seen it, or listened to it.

That's probably as good as its gonna get.

Now,...I don't think anyone posted a Link to this Obama at FT Hood,..perhaps I missed it if they did,..does anyone have a link to it, so I may watch it myself ?

As far as the "Shout Outs",....I'll reserve the right to comment on them, even tho I don't see anything horrible about Obama giving "Thanks", if that was what he was doing, but he might of gotten more Praise if he would of gave his "Shout Out", at some other time.

Was the Shout Out to the Friends of "Obama and Company" contributors to his Campaign, or what ?

If anyone at this time deserved his Praise, it should of been to the Native Americans, in Thanks, to their effort in our Military as Code Talkers,..and to United States Military, and the Families of those Service Men lost at FT Hood.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 132 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/10/2009 8:46:22 AM
People, People, People,....LOL

Were bouncing all over the place, and no one is actually putting the "Blame" on who's shoulders it rightfully belongs.

OK,....I myself have "Pointed The Finger",...I myself have played "The Blame Game",
and spoken out against what I feel is wrong with Obama.

I have to give Obama Credit, where Credit is due,..for someone like Obama, to pick up the Ball, and try to run with it, is either Insanely Brave, or Insanely Stupid.

Its like a Dock Master working the Shipyard, and a Ship comes in laden with Perishable Good,....and 3/4 of the Goods are ROTTEN, yet he put his name on the dotted line and accepts them anyway,...hoping to save whats left.

Obama,..did NOT create the mess were in,....yet we expect him to "Fix It", in an unreasonable short amount of time,....that ain't gonna happen.

Obama,..accepted this mess, and is supposed to "Fix It",......

We all thought that with this Administration would come "Change", a different approach as to how and fix our Nations problems,....instead of change, we just get more of the "Same Ole Same Ole",..and "Business As Usual",..for the most part.

Obama has done exactly what most all other Presidents have done,...surround yourself with what you consider the "Best" advisers, and rely on their thinking as to what we should do.

So we go "Back To Square One",..and just continue doing exactly what has got this nation in trouble in the first place,....."Spending Like There's No Tomorrow !"

Well, Guess What ? There is a "Tomorrow",...and it is today,..and were in no better shape than we were before.

What happened to "Bring Our Troops Home?"
What happened to "Restore Our Economy?"

Whats the definition of "Insanity?"
"Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result."

When are we going to get off this "Merry Go Round"

You want to blame Obama for all our Countries ills, then you don't understand who really runs this Country.

Congress runs this Country,...if anybody has "Dropped The Ball", its Congress.

IF,....Congress wanted a Balanced Budget,..we would have one.
If,.... Congress wanted Health Care Reform,..we would of had one before now.

Saying Obama dropped the ball is just pointing the finger, and playing the blame game.

Maybe Obama shouldn't of worried about the HCR Bill, so early in his Administration,
its been a very dividing piece of legislature that is described as 2,000 pages of literature that's practically unable to read, or understand,..and thats coming from a Congressperson.

What happened to being able to see and read it ourselves, before it went to Vote ?
Why the Midnight Rush ? (again)
Why the Secrets ? (again)
Why do they say one thing then do another ? (again)

Because this is the way Politics works,..and it should be put to a STOP !

Congress is supposed to "Work For Us.",.....not the other way around.

What happened to the Transparency ?
Why was this HCR Bill pushed through so fast ?
Its going to take a group of Lawyers, months, just to unravel, decode, and understand exactly what it is.

Why cant the average layman understand whats writing in between the pages ?

We can sit here and place all the Blame on Obama, and say he "Dropped The Ball" all we want, but that does NOT solve anything.

We voted Obama into Office in "Hope" that we would see a "Change",..in the way this country will be run from now own,....were still waiting.

Some people are impatient, and demand to see "Change" NOW!,..and when they dont see it, they want to lay Blame, and say Obama dropped the Ball.

Its not Obama that dropped the Ball,..its our Congress, and the way our Political System works, that's failed us.

Sure Obama is going to make mistakes, sure some people are going to be unhappy,...
its NOT a "Perfect World",...don't expect Obama to be "The Miracle Man",..he is only One Man, and is only Human, remember we all make mistakes.

Obamas first mistake was to run for Office, and think he could "Change" things,......

Until we hold Congress responsible, and demand they do their job,..were still in the same boat as before.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 128 (view)
 
Funniest thing ever happened to you during sex?
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:28:54 AM
Welllllllllll,

It was Funny at the time.

My Best Friend, and I, decided to take a couple of girls Camping for the weekend.

We took the old Pick Up Truck, with an Above the Cab Camper, and went to a couple of Campgrounds in the "Southern",... Part of the State.

All was well,..till we had explored most of the Park, and it was only the middle of the day....whats a young Man supposed to do ?

We took the two "Ladies" into the Camper, and proceeded to do what Young Men, do to Young Ladies, when there's nothing else to do.

While I let my friend and his companion use the upper berth, and my friend and I use the lower,..we got stark naked, and was in the act of committing whats considered a Felony in at least 7 States,.....

While I was on top of this gal,.a sudden thought popped into my head,....I'm sure you have all heard the saying,..

She's so UGLY ya have to put a Flag over her face and F*** Her for OLD GLORY."


So here I was, on top of this Lady,..and I started humming THE BATTLE HYMN of THE REPUBLIC,....and timing my movements to the beat of the song.

Next thing you know,..my Friend is "Humming" along with me and everything is OK until I start bellowing out the lyrics,..then it becomes frantic, and "Faster",..till an explosive climax, of both the Song, and its singers.

Were exhausted, and spent,...but where is the sound of Laughter coming from ?

We peek outside, to see a crowd amassed outside our Camper, laughing their azz off, and demanding an ENCORE !

The,..."Ladies",...insisted we leave the Park Immediately, and refused to stick their heads out the door until we were else where,...

So, my friend and I were met by several of the "Eavesdroppers" who thought our antics were hilarious, and wanted to shake our hands, for providing them with some of the Best Entertainment they had ever had, at any State Park.

I ended up Marrying the "Lady" I was with.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 52 (view)
 
obama declares national emergency
Posted: 11/9/2009 10:05:25 AM
Its ,..Strange,

While listening to the News on the Radio,..shortly after Obama declared an "Emergency",..the News Reporter stated that the United States is actually seeing a Decline in the number of reported cases of H1N1.

If that's True,..then why Declare an "Emergency " ?

To me,...I have not read, or heard, of an impending threat due to the H1N1 Virus.

The only "Threat" I've heard of, is that the "Flu Shot" is more fatal,....than the actual Virus.
The only "Threat" I've head of, is making the "Flu Shot", "MANDATORY".

Gee,..that's SCARY,...our Government DEMANDING, we MUST,..get a "FLU SHOT".

Considering that the "FLU SHOT", is more FATAL, than the FLU itself.

Now,..its "MANDATORY",..
even tho the reported number of cases are dropping ?

Sounded Fishy to me from the start.

OMG,...Next will be a "FISH FLU"
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 89 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/8/2009 9:59:32 AM
The Original Posters thoughts,...

I mentioned a while back that it was not smart to get involved with the professor/officer Crowley issue.

I later mentioned that calling Kanye West a jackass was a poor move.

I stated that it showed poor judgement and lack of self-control, as evidenced by lots of things he did in his campaign, as well as the little photo-shoot fly-over with Airforce 1 a while back.

Everyone shouted it down because "Kanye IS a jackass" well yeah...but it's not the president's job to call every celeb. on their behavior.


And now, from the "Link" the "OP" referred us to,

Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting
By ROBERT A. GEORGE
Updated 2:56 PM CST, Fri, Nov 6, 2009
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html

Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter. The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and patience until all the facts are in. That's the least that should occur.

Indeed, an argument could be made that Obama should have canceled the Indian event, out of respect for people having been murdered at an Army post a few hours before. That would have prevented any sort of jarring emotional switch at the event.

Did the president's team not realize what sort of image they were presenting to the country at this moment? The disconnect between what Americans at home knew had been going on -- and the initial words coming out of their president's mouth was jolting, if not disturbing.

All the president's men (and women) fell down on the job Thursday. And Democrats across the country have real reason to panic.


OK,..that's his Opinion, and he is entitled to it, be it right or wrong,..but I dont think its gonna throw anyone into a Panic,...just more of a continued Smear Campaign.


we tried the "experienced" team for the last eight years. two absurd wars and the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression later we are worrying about Kanye West?


I agree with you 100% !


what did people think the next team was going to do? magically revive the economy, win the unwinnable wars, fix healthcare, and undo the collapse of the nations economy by snapping their fingers and turning around twice?


Sure they believe that,...its just that it hasnt happenned YET, and now a lot more people have become disillusioned with "THE GOLDEN CHILD",...

Ya gotta give Obama Time,....even Obama himself, said it would take time,..he, in my Opinion, is spread out too thin, and should consintrate on just a few issiues at a time instead of trying to Mulit task as much as he can,..,his plate is way too full.


maybe if Obama and his minions would address the more immediate crisis the Economy and the Wars then maybe we might have a chance at Real recovery


Right on my man !
Pull our Troops out,...NOW !
Work on restoring our ECONOMY,....NOW !


now we have pundits flipping out because the president didn't seem upset enough? where the f*ck will this sh*t stop???


Sorry, but it ISN'T,....gonna stop.

No matter how much Obama tries, there will always be an unrest,
simply because he is part Black,...that drives the Racist Nuts,...he could be the BEST PRESIDENT EVER,...and it wouldnt matter,....

The Obama supporters, both Black and White, did NOT take into consideration that putting a "Black Man" (and I use those words loosely) in the White House, would NOT be accecpted by a large majority of White people, and thus has devided this Nation, as much as THE CIVIL WAR ever did.

The reason I, "use those words loosely",.is because Obama is "Mixed Race",....Only in America, does there exist the moronic statue that if a Person has ONE DROP, of "Black" blood,..then their consider Black.....sad, isnt it,..we let that one little issue fan the flames of Racism and Discord, no matter how hard Obama is trying.

I will say this,...
I am Greatly saddened by the Loss of our Military Men, in this horrific act of senselessness,.....

I am NOT gonna "Attack" Obama,....... simply because he didnt,......
"DROP EVERYTHING",..and do, or say, enough to satisfie everyones personal feelings as to where they feel his reactions met their requirements.

I will say this,....
Thank You Mr President, for asking that all the Flags across our Nation, and around the world, be lowered to Half Mast, to Honor these Military Men.

I will say this,....
Thank You Mr President, for allowing the Native Event, to go on as planed.

If Obama would of cancelled the Native Event,..then he would of drew even more critisism from people that wouldnt of agreed with that move.

Its tuff being in a Position where you cant please everyone.

Telling someone ,...

Why don't you just sit down and have a steaming hot mug of shut the f**ck up.


Is NOT the answer,..and if you cant refrain from such an ATTACK, then perhaps you should find "Greener Pastures",..or expect to get "Tossed".
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 3:19:20 PM
Yes,...Like I said,..

even tho he was probably right about that, it still is NOT his place to make that call,...

Obama drops the ball...again.

Just because Obama is President doesn't give him free reign to run ruff shod over anyone, and with him being under the Public Eye, he is supposed to "Think",..before he Speaks,....as soon as he said West was a "jackazz" he was automatically scrutinized for his Opinion,....we just got rid of one Clown, we dont need another one.
Obama drops the ball...again.

Look at the Gates Arrest,...he shot off his mouth without hearing both sides of the story.....tisk, tisk, tisk,....
Obama drops the ball...again.

It looks like Obama just cant open his mouth with out sticking his foot in it,.....

Last time I checked, this was AMERICA,....where Re Blooded, Red White and Blue God Loving Americans like you and I can speak freely of our Opinions, because were not under the microscope,..like Obama is.

And YES,....I'm just as entitled to have an Opinion, just as everybody else,..and I'm actually just going along with someone elses "Call",.......I did NOT make it,......but I do happen to AGREE with it........so don't ATTACK ME,...because you think it isn't my place to make "that call".

I try to keep my Mouth Shut,....until I at least know the FACTS.

And you know what,....from what I have seen, and what I have read,.....
Obama drops the ball...again.

Check out these LINKS,..to see Obama dropping the Ball so much, you'd swear he was in a Basketball Game,.....talk about Morals, Values, and Judgment Calls,.....Obama makes PLENTY of them,....In favor of Muslims and Islam,...instead of the Country he is President of,...THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,..and is Susposed to be a "CHRISTIAN NATION".

Obama drops the ball...again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Obama drops the ball...again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYWeK4w3PKk

I can NOT believe my ears,..of course the majority of these videos are identical, and their mostly snippets,.......but its my Opinion that Obama is NOT standing up for AMERICA the way a President of the USA, should be.

I ,..like many other Americans believes that Obama has dropped the ball, again.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:00:47 PM
Obama seems to of "Hit The Ground Running",..
which hasnt exactly worked for him, yet,

I think he is working too hard, pushing to fast, and not being able to focus on the biggest problem he should of addressed from the very start....but we wont go into that.


One was his decision to shoot the pirates ,...


From the articles I read, from the view2 point of the Military,....Obama would NOT make that call,....and refused to give the go ahead,....

Finally when a Pirate acted as tho he was going to shoot the hostage,...the Military Sniper opened Fire,...the the Obama Team put their spin on it, and took the credit.

Obama was NOT in the boat,..he was in Wash DC, or roaming the country trying to earn brownie points where ever he goes.

The Sniper aboard the ship, is the one who"Made The Call - Made The Shot - And Deserves The Brownie Points"

and,...


the other was calling west a jack


even tho he was probably right about that, it still is NOT his place to make that call,...
remember,....They say,.."It Takes One To Know One".

Another case to me, of Obama dropping the ball (again)
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 67 (view)
 
Did the President LIE on September 9, 2009 ... in his speech to Congress?
Posted: 11/3/2009 10:35:35 AM

What does that have to do with his speech on September 9, 2009?


Like I said before,....


Wake up,..he is just another Crooked Politician, that has one of the worst histories of surrounding himself with Cheats, Thieves, LIARS, Terrorist, and such ilk.

Obama and Michelle cant even get their story correct when it comes to their daughter getting meningitis,.....What a Joke.


Obama, in his speach's,...bends the truth, exgagerates, and out right lies,... in his attempts to increase his standing with who ever it is he's addressing,..and it isnt just Sept 9th,...every time he makes a speach, it useually has mistruths, and out right lies in it.

Like the "Baby Ripped From Nursing Mothers Breast" story,..an out right LIE, that he told while addressing LA RAZA,....the article, and LINK, were in the other post,..you read it, you replied too it,...dont act dumb, we both know better than that,

I think your just TROLLING , in an attempt to get me to "Double Post", and get BANNED for doing so. Thats WRONG, and you know it.

I have stated over and over again what I consider the "LIE",..and you attack it every time,..as your still doing.

Quit with the Personal Attacks and Trolling.

Obama Lied,...Obama "Lies",...he will continue to do so. Period.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 65 (view)
 
Did the President LIE on September 9, 2009 ... in his speech to Congress?
Posted: 11/1/2009 7:11:17 AM
Wow,...some people just "Dont Get IT"

Uh, shouldn't all illegals be deported anyway?

and the "LIE", in return,...

Of course they should, but I sure don't want to be the one who rips the babies away from the nursing mothers in order to accomplish that.


NO,....Nursing baby,..was ripped from its Mothers Breast,.....another LIE told by "Obama The Great Liar"

Obama likes to take instances, and greatly exaggerate, and blow them out of proportion, like he did in this Example.

Obama had LIED repeatedly, and yet some people refuse to believe it.

Wake up,..he is just another Crooked Politician, that has one of the worst histories of surrounding himself with Cheats, Thieves, LIARS, Terrorist, and such ilk.

Obama and Michelle cant even get their story correct when it comes to their daughter getting meningitis,.....What a Joke.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Our first Obama Gate…
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:09:48 PM
What part of,...

"I hate Politics,...I hate Politicians, in general."

Do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ?


Just the fact, that our President,...lets say,.....any US President,...would "BOW DOWN"
to an Arab "King",..is a shame,...a SHAME !


Did YOU read the words,.....
"any US President"

This thread is about Obama, NOT Bush,...OK ?

I'll Gladly Bash Bush, ....if it was the thread topic,..

its not,...so Please, lets stick to the Thread Topic.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Obama Lifts Ban On US Entry For Those With HIV
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:04:50 PM

biker: then american should be prevented from traveling. just put up a big bubble and keep all you guys locked in forever.


Nope,..Just anyone that has a disease that is in danger of infecting others.

That's one reason why a RFID doesn't scare me as bad as when I first heard about the possible use,..if a person does pose a threat, it would be on the RFID, and they should be put on a "NO FLY" List,...and banned from traveling from one country to another.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 100 (view)
 
Obama spells doom for America
Posted: 10/31/2009 12:29:07 PM
Obama spells DOOM, for America.

Lets just start talking about all the LIES, that Obama has said, since he started running for Office, up to this point and time ?

We could spend days, and page after page, of just listing the untruths, and out right LIES,...thats true to life, as with any Politician,..but lets start at the Top, with Obama, and the LIES he ahs told, that is the Demise,..and the DOOM, of which we speek.

Hard Core Obama supporters, refuse to accept that Obama has told "ONE" Lie,....so how can they even start to believe that Obama has told more than "ONE" LIE,....ONE, Untruth ?

Obama said his Administration will be one of Transparency, and Accountabilty.

Well,..wheres the Transparancy ?

Obama said any Bill brought to him, would be put Online for the American People to view FOR 5 DAYS,........

What Happenned ?

Lie after Lie.

You want to hear,...." Obama - 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes"

Its on the net,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6k5wvc2OPw

Thats why OBAMA Spells DOOM For AMERICA,....
because he is just like almost all other Politicans,....THEY LIE !

You can NOT help the Economy without reducing Government Spending,
and Obama isnt doing either.
You can NOT Spend your way out of Debt,....

The Future looks Gloom,...with so much DOOM.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Our first Obama Gate…
Posted: 10/31/2009 12:14:04 PM

***passes el gotto a tisuse and beginss to play a violin***

Waaaaa., my guy didn't win. They cheated.


What , Exactly , does that have to do with anything ?

"Obama gate" ?

Lets talk,.... "Obama Gates" ?

I hate Politics,...I hate Politicians, in general.

Just the fact, that our President,...lets say,.....any US President,...would "BOW DOWN"
to an Arab "King",..is a shame,...a SHAME !

How soon does people forget the horriable memory of the 9 Israeli Olympians murdered by Palestinians.

And our President,..any President, bows down to their King?

I dont think so.

I wish this would open the Door, for all of the things I feel our President has done, to dishonor America, Americian Citizens, and what were supposed to stand for.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Obama Lifts Ban On US Entry For Those With HIV
Posted: 10/31/2009 11:53:20 AM
Not only do I NOT APPROVE of Obama lifting the BAN,....I think there should be more BANS put into place, to ensure the Safety of America, and its Citizens.

In the ever increasing attempt to lift the ban on the Border issiue and illegals,..now the Ban on admitting people with a deadly illness such as AIDS, just increases the threat to America, even more.

This Ban, was put in place for a reason,...and if common sense prevailed, it would still be in place,....and Enforced.

When a link is given, including a snipit, it is up to us to go read the entire article, so dont blame the OP for not including the entire article, that sometimes takes up too much space, and ventures off into other areas besides the OP intended subject.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 335 (view)
 
Are older men sometimes intimidated by older sexy women?
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:34:45 PM
"intimidated by an older sexy woman ?"

Has the World gone Nuts ?

How many Young men, have got their first Experience from "An Older Sexy Woman" ?

Maybe when we were "Young Men", we might of been intimidated.

But basicly, once you "Get Your Feet Wet",...its a whole wide world out there to sow those wild Oats.

When I see an attractive, sexy woman, having every man in the rooms attention,..I just leave them alone,..I figure they are getting exactly what they want.

I dont want to dissapoint their ego, so, if they approach me to make small talk, and ask
"Why", I havent been paying attention,... I'll tell them if I find them attractive or sexy, but I'll tell them Im not gonna act a fool trying to be the "Lucky One" to score points with her, regardless......

I dont require "Eye Candy", to be Happy, ...

Im Happy, even tho Im not currently dating,
It doesnt bother me to give my point of View,....

To me,....If a "Lady", is attractive, she doesnt have to "Show Off" in order to impress others,

I find a woman "Sexy" if she can just be herself, and NOT have to keep trying to impress upon you, how "Attractive" they "Still" are.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 45 (view)
 
obama declares national emergency
Posted: 10/29/2009 7:43:05 AM
I was in the VA Hospital, when the H1N1 News hit the screen,...and the first thing I thought of was,
"Oh No,..not another Man Made Virus"

Sure enough, one of the Medical People being interviewed, even made a statement of the same effect....as how it may be a man made Virus from some Laboratory.

Its a shame, that Laboratory's develop things like this, in a continued attempt, to find ways of destroying, or at least have a crippling effect on human life.

Time after time we have been used as Guinea Pigs, without our even knowing it.

Now its been declared an "Emergency" ?

The Flu Shot itself, is supposedly more deadly than the Flu ?

Where is the Emergency ?
What constitutes the need to declare an "Emergency"

Its already been said, that the "Flu Shot" will not prevent a person from getting the Flu,
so why bother, when supposedly the Flu Shot is more deadly than the Flu itself ?


Who benefits ?

The Pharmaceutical Companies, will reap huge Profits, at our expence.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 100 (view)
 
The New USA War.....Illegals....
Posted: 10/28/2009 8:23:29 AM
OK,...I wanted to read from your point of view,...but all you links did, was take me to a Web Page, of Search Links,...not a direct link.

But I've read it before, so no big deal,..

But if you want me to read a story, please provide the direct link, that take me to the direct link you've "Copy & Pasted" in your post,...



AP IMPACT: Citizens Held as Illegal Immigrants
AP IMPACT: In crackdown on illegal immigrants, American citizens get caught in dragnet
By SUZANNE GAMBOA Associated Press Writer
April 12, 2009 (AP) The Associated Press


I tried,....
"AP IMPACT: Citizens Held as Illegal Immigrants"
just a web base search engine with numerous links

I tried,....
AP IMPACT: In crackdown on illegal immigrants, American citizens get caught in dragnet
just a web base search engine with numerous links


I don't give you web page search engine links, why do that to me,..you want me to read something, give me the direct link.

I agree with you,..its a shame about "Pedro Guzman",..and his tragic story,...I agree with you, that's horrible,..and NO, there is now way Id even try to accuse you of being biased, or refuting your credibility,..I know your heart is in the right place, I sympathize with these people too,..at least the Hispanics that come here illegally looking for a better life....not the Gang Bangers and Criminals.

I've said before,..we have to do something to change our system,.....but allowing 12 to 30+ million Illegals to burden our country isn't it.

And to reward the illegals, that's already here, to be allowed to "Go To The Front of The Line",...if granted Amnesty, is a slap in the face, to those who have done the right thing by filling out the required paperwork, and are waiting in line.

The way to remove "Illegals" wouldn't be very hard at all,....
Enforce the existing Laws that's already in place,
instead of having Sanctuary Cities, where the Police cant even ask you if your an American Citizen...is that NUTS, or what ?

Employers, are finally being prosecuted for hiring "illegals"....

If no one would Hire the "illegals",.....they would return home on their own.

If no Landlord would rent to "illegals",..they would return home on their own.

YES,..I know there's flaws in everything,...anyone "legal" can rent a place then turn it over to an illegal,....

Illegals can and do, get Bogus ID's, and Social Security Cards, which is illegal in its self,..
so when caught, you not only have an "illegal" that broke our Countries Laws,...you also have someone with Phony ID, and or Phony Social Security Cards,.....more charges against him in a Court of Law,...

Its time to enforce those Laws instead of "Granting Amnesty"....

More and more "illegals" come here all the time, because they know were not aggressively pursuing them, and face no real punishment if caught,...that's the problem.

When, the USA, starts enforcing its Laws,..we wouldn't have any where near the problem we face today,...simply by enforcing our existing laws.

Are we going to wait till some "illegal" slips over the Border with a Nuclear Weapon and blows a city like San Francisco off the map, killing millions before we decide to take action, and clamp down on the Border, and "illegals" ?

I guaranty you,..if that happens,..our country will be rounding up every "illegal" they can get their hands on, by the Bus Load...that will cause so much trouble,..there will be hundreds of,.. "Pedro Guzman's",..being caught in the middle.

Do we wait, for something like that to happen, and cause mass pandemonium, or should we do it in a humane, sympathetic way, that causes less problems ?

IF,....we ever get serious,....as Punishment,..we could use these "illegals" to build the Fence at the Border,..saving Millions in Labor, then where their time is up,..ship them to the other side with a Warning,..

"You come back again, and we catch you again,...your looking at 5 to 10 years Hard Labor !"

Getting the "illegals" to go back home wouldn't even be hard if every News paper from Coast to Coast had the same Headlines,...
ILLEGALS TOLD TO LEAVE, OR BE DEPORTED-ANY ILLEGALS CAUGHT AFTER THIS 90 DAY GRACE PERIOD WILL GO TO PRISON FOR 5-10 YEARS-THEN DEPORTED

And get rid of this "Anchor Baby" situation,...simply by changing the Law,.....if the Mother, or Father, is an "illegal",...then the baby is "illegal".....you can even write into the Law, that if the Baby/Child, was born in the United States, they can apply for Citizenship when they turn of Legal Age.

Simple
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 74 (view)
 
How often do condoms really break?
Posted: 10/27/2009 5:28:12 PM
Yes,....


Always use a water based lube with condoms!


There are some really good water base lubricants, like,... "IQ",...a bit expensive, but its well worth it.

I just love it when Im standing in a long line at the Checkout Counter, and the clerk ask me "Will there be anything else ?"

and I reply in a deep voice,...

"Yes, I'll have a Box of Magnum size Condoms please !"

It always gets a good laugh,..now the Clerk never forgets to ask me if theres anything else,..LOL
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 96 (view)
 
The New USA War.....Illegals....
Posted: 10/27/2009 1:14:27 PM
You don't even bother to read the links provided, do you ?

All you can do is "ATTACK - ATTACK - ATTACK"

Why dont you try reading the link given, to get the whole story, so you can see how wrong you are....before you go straight into your "ATTACK MODE".


Obama: Immigration enforcement equals terror
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69612

Sen. Barack Obama, speaking to the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza yesterday, pumped up the crowd by describing how Hispanic communities are "terrorized" by government immigration officers

"When communities are terrorized by ICE immigration raids," Obama said, "when nursing mothers are torn from their babies, when children come home from school to find their parents missing, when people are detained without access to legal counsel, when all that is happening, the system just isn’t working, and we need to change it."


This is Obamas way of "Bad Talking" our Country, and the men and women who enforce our Countries Laws....(and this is only one instance)

If,.....You would of read the "Link",..you would of found out that NO nursing BABY, was torn from its Mothers breast,...you'd know that if you read the link.

Obama,....was addressing the National Council of La Raza, sucking up to them to get their support, and over exaggerated, and bad mouthed our Law Enforcement,...who's job is to arrest CRIMINALS, who break our Laws.


Sen. Barack Obama, speaking to the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza yesterday, pumped up the crowd by describing how Hispanic communities are "terrorized" by government immigration officers.


It doesn't matter, if its a Male,..or Female when it comes to our Nations Law...You break the Law you suffer the consequences.

What about the "illegals" that "Terrorize" our streets and neighborhoods by Gang Intimidation, selling Drugs and committing acts of Rape, Robbery, and Murder, against law abiding Citizens


"Our duty is to ensure laws are enforced," San Diego ICE spokesperson Lauren Mack told WND. "The people who violate those laws should understand they are subject to arrest and removal."

Mack explained that the ICE's enforcement operations are not random acts of shock meant to intimidate or terrorize, but carefully planned and targeted arrests, backed by months of investigation and surveillance, similar to the steps police take to apprehend any form of criminal.

"Our agents are experienced and well-trained," she said. "They know ICE policies on dealing with families and always take humanitarian issues into account in any arrest situation."

In November of last year, following an incident where a mother and nursing baby actually were separated by ICE action, the agency released new written guidelines for handling single parents, pregnant women, nursing mothers and other special child or family care situations. The New York Times reported the new guidelines allow nursing mothers to be released unless they pose a national security risk.

"We are faced with these sorts of situations frequently, where a large number of individuals come illegally or overstay and have children in the United States," an ICE spokesperson told the Times. "Unfortunately, the parents are putting their children in these difficult situations."


Its a shame that sometimes children, even Babies,...are caught in the middle of situations like this.

This "illegal" problem should of been addressed years ago,..instead of continued Amnesty programs, that have just kept making things worse, instead of better.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Do you believe that our world here in North America is too free?
Posted: 10/24/2009 2:03:15 PM
I have my reservations on what Freedom means,

I have my personal Freedoms, that says I can come and go as I please, as long as I don't interfere with other persons Freedoms.

Yet,..if my house is broken into by a Criminal(s),....I'm not "Free" to dish out what I feel is a proper punishment, for someone violating my Rights, and Freedoms.

I look at it like this,....
"If You Violate My Freedoms, and Rights,...You've just LOST Yours."

There's "Laws", that prohibit Citizens, in communities , where there is no Legal recourse for "Self Defense"......That's horrible.

If I remember correctly,..Obama declared there was NO SELF DEFENSE RIGHT, in Ill.

How can you make a Law, that prevents you from defending, and protecting your life ?

Is that Freedom ?

Of course not.

America, has become too overly protective of Criminal Rights, at the sake of taking away Law Abiding Citizens rights to protect them selves and their property

It used to be, a person had the right to,
Protect their Life,....
Protect the life of a 3RD party
Protect your Property.

Now,...those Freedoms that we took for granted are under assault.

Certain areas have forbid the ownership of a Firearm, regardless of the 2ND Amendment.(Wash DC, as an example)
Certain areas forbid the use of deadly force, to protect ones life.

Now,..the use of deadly force to protect ones property has came under attack.

Common Sense has failed us,.....with the loss of these "Freedoms",..and instilling the Criminals with more rights, than the Victims.

Any woman,..who goes through the agony of a Rape, and the Rapist is caught, must then defend herself in a Court of Law, where she is treated as tho she was the Criminal.

Is that Freedom ?
Wheres her right to be treated in a humane, caring manner,...its thrown out of the Courtroom as the Lawyer for the Criminal trys and paint the Victim as the one who enticed the Rape.

No,..,means NO!
Unless your a Criminal.

My Property, my House,..is Mine,....Bought and Paid for IN FULL,..the Taxes were Paid every Month, in my Payments,...now the House is Paid for,..FREE AND CLEAR,

Yet I still have to pay Taxes,..on top of Taxes I've already paid.
On page 1, it states,....
"NAME AND ADDRESS OF TAXPAYER"
On page 2, it states,.....
"SPECIAL MESSAGE TO PROPERTY OWNER"
and,...
"HOW YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE CALCULATED"

I'm not a Landlord,..I don't Lease,...I don't owe Money on the House,
yet I'm TAXED, on something I've already paid my Taxes on while buying it ?

I go to work every day, and at the end of the week,....Im Taxed by the Government, that didnt earn the money, I did,..Im the one that Worked all week,...not them,..yet they TAX me.
Im Taxed at the Gas Pump,..Im Taxed at the Store,..if I put my Money in a Savings CD, or 401,...Im Taxed for "Early Withdrawl"

Now theres even a "Death Tax"?

Im Free to Complain, Im Free to pay Taxes so that "Illegals" can get Welfare and Medical Treatment,..yet I have to pay my way through this world, where others can steal, cheat, and Rob us of what we have worked hard for !

FREE ?

It depends on your outlook.

The case of the USA, and Property Ownership,...is determined by CONGRESS.

NO ONE,..can OWN REAL PROPERTY, Unless its an Act of Congress.

The only people that actually OWN, REAL PROPERTY,.... are the Native American Indians,....because it was declared by "AN ACT of CONGRESS".

And as we have been told,....Congress kept taking back the Indians Property,..time after time.

Native Americans are FREE,........Free to live on the Reservations they were Forced upon,..Forced to take,....regardless.

Pine Ridge SD, Native Americans, are Free to live in the "HIGHEST POVERTY AREA",... in the Nation.

So,....we don't "Own" our Homes,...we merely hold the Title and Deed, saying were the Legal occupants of said Property.

With the recent attack, against a person being able to use Deadly Force to protect their Property,...that is just another Loss of one of our basic Freedoms.

You shoot someone in defending your Property, see how fast you end up being,....
"The Bad Guy",.....
and the Criminal will become "The Victim".....

and costing YOU the Freedom to own a Firearm,..the Freedom to remain living at said Property, and the Freedom to Keep your Money in the Bank, instead of being forced to defend your actions by means of Legal Fees.

The assumption that ,..
"Innocent Until Proven Guilty",....
has been replace with,...
"GUILTY UNTILL PROVEN INNOCENT"

The only people that truly are FREE,...are the Criminals, who are Free to do as they please,....

You and I,..the Law Abiding Citizens, are bound by those very "Freedoms", that we must abide by,..that Proves that we are NOT FREE.

The only People that are truly FREE, are the Rich Ruling Elete, that make the Laws that YOU & I have to live by,..because those rules dont apply to them.

How many Rich Fat cats,..have you seen go to Prison after stealing and Bilking millions
in Mortage Scams ?

Why haven't any Wall Street tycoons been sent to the slammer?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/336/story/75720.html?storylink=omni_popular

WASHINGTON — More than a year into the gravest financial crisis since the Great Depression, millions of Americans have seen their home values and retirement savings plunge and their jobs evaporate.

What they haven't seen are any Wall Street tycoons forced to swap their multi-million dollar jobs and custom-made suits for dishwashing and prison stripes.

There are plenty of civil and class-action lawsuits from aggrieved investors angered by the losses in their mortgage bonds, hedge funds or pensions. Regulators have stepped up their vigilance after the fact. But to date, no captain of finance tied to the crisis has walked the plank.

There have been some high-profile arrests and federal convictions of financial giants — such as Ponzi scheme king Bernard Madoff and Stanford Financial Group chairman Robert Allen Stanford. They weren't among the causes of the financial meltdown, however, just poster boys for an era of lax enforcement, weak regulation and devout faith in free markets.

"A lot of people who are responsible (for the crisis) seem to have gotten awfully rich in the process," said Barbara Roper, the director of investor protection for the Consumer Federation of America.


These Rich Fat Cats just never seem to go to Prison,....

But you let some Poor, Broke, Unemployed Father steal $20 Dollars in an attempt to feed his Family, and he gets sent away for YEARS !

I think the Rich Fat cats, are free to do what they want.
I thing the Unlawfull Criminals are Free to do what they want.

But You & I,..the Working Class, Law Abiding Citizen,...are at their mercy.

Too much Freedom, for those with bad intent.
Not enough Freedom, for the Law Abiding Citizens.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 40 (view)
 
Obama's Secret Agenda to bring about Socialism
Posted: 10/23/2009 12:09:03 PM
Actually,

I didn't think anyone was trying to keep it a "Secret"

Its been Public knowledge since before he was Elected, at least in my little corner of the world.

I look at it like this,.....as long as Im allowed to keep what I've worked for, and paid for, all my life,
and others are allowed to keep what they have worked for, and paid for,......Im cool.

What I dont want to see,..is someone get better Medical Treatment,...better Representation,...better Trash Service,..etc,....just because of the area of town we live in, or based on our Race, Creed, or Religion.

Thats where Socialism is supposed to level the playing field,..where we really need it.

If I worked for, and paid for 2 Vehicles,....I dont see where Im obligated to share one with a Lazy Neighbor, that neither worked for, nor paid for it.

So far,....I see things I dont like, but as long as this "Redistribute The Wealth" doesnt turn into an agenda of taking from people thats worked for their position and status in life,...Im cool,...

If redistributing the "Wealth" means spending some of that TAX Money in improvished neighborhoods, to help inprove the quailty of life for others less fortunate,.....instead of only spending it in upscale neighborhoods,....Im a'll for it.

But if its just a continuation of Over Taxing the Poor, and making them bare the brunt of the responcibility, but get none of the benefits,..you know,..the same old "Song and Dance" routine,...just dressed in fancier words,..then forget it.

All we have seen, and heard so far,.is the same old story,....just more of the "Same Old Same Old",...Lip Service,..we've heard since as far back as I can remember.

Im looking for "Hope",.....and,....."Change"

Instead of,...

"Hey Brother,..I Hope you can spare some Change?"

You know,

Socialism works great,..Till you run out of other peoples Money.

And our Government has just been on the bring of colapse for far too long for us to expect too much out of Obama, after all he is only one man,...and the people that actually run this Country total 535 Congresspersons,...

IF,...the people in Congress wanted a Balanced Budget, and a better Economy, they could of done so long ago.

I cant blame Obama for Socialism,..., I cant blame him for a lot of our Societies ills,...but I can blame him for not being smart enough to know that in order to cut Run Away Inflation, create a better Economy, and to help Balance a Budget,..you have to Cut Government Spending,....NOT Increase it.

No Country ever spent its way out of Debt.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 201 (view)
 
Obama's latest approval ratings.
Posted: 10/23/2009 10:26:19 AM

Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html

http://digg.com/world_news/Barack_Obama_sees_worst_poll_rating_drop_in_50_years

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c7_1256269297&c=1

http://www.prisonplanet.com/barack-obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html

http://alt.nntp2http.com/impeach/bush/2009/10/3fcffced3690d114e2d1ef6a389c76e2.html

http://groups.google.to/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/browse_thread/thread/2cdec56d3b61667f/239a7d3b4ef82b17?show_docid=239a7d3b4ef82b17

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2368933/posts


Where "CNN",..wheres "FOX",..wheres "MSNBC" ???

Is this news worthy,..or has all of Main Stream Media just refusing to cover the story of how their elected Offical has fell from grace ?

have Americans realized they put too many Eggs, in one Basket ???,..Or just the "WRONG BASKET" ?


633817.1. from so called "hero" to zero in 10 months flat

http://www.mlive.com/forums/newstalk/index.ssf?artid=5226804

leftist agenda is NOT what America wants....koolaid supplies running low. Maybe Obama will now start ruling with an iron fist like Mao...just kill off the dissidents? I wouldn't put anything past him


Yes,...I myself wonder what Obama will do NEXT, to try and pull himself out of this slump.

Or, should I say,.."What will Obama's handlers, will come up with, to restore Obama's confidence ratings in America?"

I see he has already been asked to "Look Into College Basketball",,......LOL

I see he has already been asked to,...

"Bail Out",..." Mom & Pop's",...and "Small Business"

I wonder if he will say a few words at the Passing of our beloved "SOUPY SALES",...

(another Clown, but at least an Honest one)
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 187 (view)
 
President Obama wants to extend school hours for our kids
Posted: 10/23/2009 9:52:44 AM
Taken as a whole, the ideal of an extended School Year,..with several Breaks during the year doesn't sound too bad,..but I'm glad I was able to have Summers off, as a youth growing up, and I'd hate to take that away from students that can, and do, get passing Grades during the school year we already have.

How about, we just reserve "Summer School" for the kids that ,...
fail to "Make The Grade", during the regular School Year ?

Why "Punish" the students that "Make The Grade" ?,..

Let them have the traditional,.."Summer Break",...as an acknowledgment, of their success ?

And the rest, can go to Summer School, knowing that "IF" they would of paid attention,
or studied harder, they too, would be able to enjoy the Summer Break,....

Checking an Academic, point of view,..I see that there is a lot to be learned from this Teacher, and the facts she expresses concerning education.


Esther WojcickiJournalism/English teacher, Palo Alto High School
Posted: October 23, 2009 08:05 AM
The Teacher is the Key
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/esther-wojcicki/the-teacher-is-the-key_b_331257.html

Here is a pretty shocking statistic.

More than 40% of teachers today are disheartened and disappointed in their jobs according to a study just released by Learning Points Associates. It is hard to be an inspirational, caring teacher if you don't want to be there.

The study showed that seven in 10 teachers cited testing as major drawback and 61 percent also cited lack of support from administrators and nearly 75% cited "discipline and behavior issues" in the classroom.


What have I been saying all along ?


This is a very challenging situation for policy makers because the solution to the education crisis in our country is the teacher. Last week Michelle Obama wrote an article in US News and World Report that was entitled "Teachers are Key to a Successful Economy." I couldn't agree more.

The Gates Foundation also came to the same conclusion after spending years focusing on small schools. They are now focusing on teacher effectiveness.

As a long time teacher at Palo Alto High in Palo Alto, CA and someone who has seen multiple education fads come and go, I think thought leaders have finally come to the right focus -- the teacher is the key. No matter what books are provided, no matter what curriculum is required ... the key is how the teacher feels about what she is teaching and how she treats her students.


Why, should Teachers have to put up with disruptions, and distractions, in their Classrooms ? That added Stress does NOTHING to help the Teacher stay in a "Happy , and, Positive mood, in order to be a better Teacher.

I'd rather a Teacher be able to "PUSH THE PANIC BUTTON",..and have the trouble maker(s) removed from the classromm,..with out them having to get involved physicly, or mentaly,...just PUSH the Button, and Security shows up,..and the Teacher says,...
"Remove this Student from the Classroom."

Have the Student(s) placed in the DETENTION HALL, while the Teacher shoots a quick message to the Dean of Boys/Girls,..explainging the Problem,...and the student NOT return to the Clkassroom, untill some sort of agreement is met on the Students part.
If the student(s) continue to be a Problem, then they dont return to the Classroom,
there are other means, and places of Study, for troublemakers !

Students that want to get an education, should not be held back, by those that dont.


I am sure everyone can remember a teacher they liked, but they can also remember a teacher they disliked because the teacher seemed to dislike students. Students know when a teacher doesn't want to be there; they know it just by being in the classroom. It's not fun. At one point these teachers probably liked students and teaching, but they now somehow feel trapped in a job that no longer provides the same pleasures it once did. These teachers actually don't dislike students; they dislike what they are required to do-- teach to a test, like NCLB tests, year after year and work with ineffective administrators.

Over the past eight years teachers nationwide have been teaching to the NCLB test which is why many of them are disheartened and burned out.

No matter what policy makers dictate, when a teacher closes the door and is the classroom alone with the students, he/she is in charge. If the teacher is well-trained, then the students will learn more. If the teacher is happy to be there, then the students will be more content in the classroom. The teacher sets the tone; the teacher provides the activities; the teacher plans the day. Happy students work harder. Happy teachers teach more effectively and that is what we need---effective teachers.

It sounds like an old adage, but what we need to do as a nation is to support teachers in the classroom and modify the NCLB Act which is now up for Congressional renewal. Supporting teachers is key to our success as a nation. Support means supporting increases in teachers salaries, respecting the role of teachers in society, donating money to foundations that support teachers, volunteering to work in the classroom, and modifying the NCLB Act to so that teachers are not motivated to teach to the test.


and nearly 75% cited "discipline and behavior issues" in the classroom.
That is EXACTLY where the problem is,.....how can a Teacher be "Happy", and extend their wealth of Knowledge to students, when their constantly having to try and control
unruley students ?

You take away the distractions, and anti social behaviour issues in the classroom, and you'll find a Teachers Job, is a lot less stressfull, and they can consintrate on their job of Teaching students what they need,..instead of making the school year longer.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 78 (view)
 
The New USA War.....Illegals....
Posted: 10/23/2009 8:07:16 AM

I have news for you, I did my own research. Why do you think I called bullsh.t on your story? I know that I am older than 61, and I do allright dealing with people who post sh.t in these forums.


What you mean is,..YOU do allright posting your "sh.t" in therse Fourms.

You have NOTHING, to back up your claim,....not one link,..where as the page I viewed had lots of Links pertaining to this Thread Topic.

NOTHING,...repeat,...NOTHING,...like in most all your post,...and your Chums post,
there is no credible evidence, nor "LINK" to back up anything you say.

Is this just another "Conspiracy" of yours ?

You want MORE, than just the one "LINK" ,than the one I posted earlier ?

How many "LINKS" would it take ?

Its a waste of time to provide any more Links, because your mind is already made up.
Proof, means nothing to you, or your cronies,...you've already shown that.

If, you have no PROOF,..then please don't bother other posters that at least provide links to back up their Post.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Obama and Medical Marijuana
Posted: 10/22/2009 12:48:30 PM

The "War on Drus" is a major drain on taxes (aren't all wars?). How much would you bet that a good chunk of the change that is taken from us "for the cause", does not go to the cause, but to line some pockets green?


Isn't that the ways its always been ?

To either "De-Criminalize",..or "Legalize",..would take all Profit out of our Law Enforcements Pockets.

Why would the Federal Government want to take away their ability to send Jack Booted Nazi Thugs, to kick in Citizens doors, confiscate their Property, Vehicles, and anything else of value,...like CASH ?

If a person, who smokes the "Evil Weed",...is caught,..even his Legitimate Bank Account, the Money that he has saved over the years from a regular job, as a "Working Joe", is Confiscated.

Man,..the Government has a Great Way to acquire Property, and CASH,....just by Busting some non violent, peace full Pot Smoker, while he sits at home being a Couch Potato,..and puts up no resistance !

What better way to Flex your Might, create a source of revenue, and show the average Citizen that your Tax Dollars are being put to good use, against,.....
THE WAR ON DRUGS ! (yeah,....right)

Its time for a change,..that's for sure,....Medicinal Growers, authorized by the state of Calif,...were raided by Bush's FED$, and their entire Crops taken,..yet no arrest ?

BUSH, used FEDERAL LAW,...to OVER RULE STATE LAW,....and Raided Calif Growers, that had the State of California's legal permission, to grow Pot, for Medical Use........yet BUSH raided them anyway.

These are not THE DARK AGES,.....even tho it seems like it sometimes.

Lets at least give Obama Credit, even if he is just trying to get the "Pot Smokers" Vote.

Others have tried to address this very Issue,....Obama isnt the first.

Lets just see what actually happens.


War on Drugs
Ron Paul opposes the War on Drugs.


On November 20, 2008 he said in a New York Times / Freakonomics interview:

“[...] the federal war on drugs has proven costly and ineffective, while creating terrible violent crime. But if you question policy, you are accused of being pro-drug. That is preposterous. As a physician, father, and grandfather, I abhor drugs. I just know that there is a better way — through local laws, communities, churches, and families — to combat the very serious problem of drug abuse than a massive federal-government bureaucracy.”


RON PAUL

Statement Introducing HR 1866, Industrial Hemp Farming Act

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/tx14_paul/IndHemp.shtml
April 2, 2009

Madam Speaker, I rise to introduce the Industrial Hemp Farming Act. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act requires the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.

Eight States--Hawaii, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Montana, North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia--allow industrial hemp production or research in accord with state laws. However, federal law is standing in the way of farmers in these states growing what may be a very profitable crop. Because of current federal law, all hemp included in products sold in the United States must be imported instead of being grown by American farmers.

Since 1970, the federal Controlled Substances Act's inclusion of industrial hemp in the schedule one definition of marijuana has prohibited American farmers from growing industrial hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp has such a low content of THC (the psychoactive chemical in the related marijuana plant) that nobody can be psychologically affected by consuming hemp. Federal law concedes the safety of industrial hemp by allowing it to be legally imported for use as food.

The United States is the only industrialized nation that prohibits industrial hemp cultivation.The Congressional Research Service has noted that hemp is grown as an established agricultural commodity in over 30 nations in Europe, Asia, North America, and South America. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act will relieve this unique restriction on American farmers and allow them to grow industrial hemp in accord with state law.

Industrial hemp is a crop that was grown legally throughout the United States for most of our nation's history. In fact, during World War II, the federal government actively encouraged American farmers to grow industrial hemp to help the war effort. The Department of Agriculture even produced a film “Hemp for Victory'' encouraging the plant's cultivation.

In recent years, the hemp plant has been put to many popular uses in foods and in industry. Grocery stores sell hemp seeds and oil as well as food products containing oil and seeds from the hemp plant. Industrial hemp is also included in consumer products such as paper, cloths, cosmetics, and carpet. One of the more innovative recent uses of industrial hemp is in the door frames of about 1.5 million cars. Hemp has even been used in alternative automobile fuel.

It is unfortunate that the federal government has stood in the way of American farmers, including many who are struggling to make ends meet, competing in the global industrial hemp market. Indeed, the founders of our nation, some of whom grew hemp, would surely find that federal restrictions on farmers growing a safe and profitable crop on their own land are inconsistent with the constitutional guarantee of a limited, restrained federal government. Therefore, I urge my colleagues to stand up for American farmers and cosponsor the Industrial Hemp Farming Act.


Are we a backwards Country, or what ?

The many benefits of raising hemp, would free us from many problems, be very cost effective, and yet we still turn our back on doing something that would benefit us all.

Its time to stop filling our Legal System with something as trivial as someone smoking POT.
But that would mean the Jack Booted Thugs would have to go after more Dangerous prey,..like real Criminals, that carry guns,.......

And the Loss of Revenue.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 73 (view)
 
The New USA War.....Illegals....
Posted: 10/22/2009 10:37:33 AM
Before you start calling stuff "bullsh.t",....maybe YOU should do a little research yourself,....



Unless you can provide a credible link to the story that you posted here I will call bullsh.t on it. The story seems to be as bogus as the documents that Jorge Alvarez Rivera sold to the undercover agents and also used for his own false identity.


The FIRST hit, that came up on a search, when I looked it up was,.....



This time, man in identity theft case can't escape his crime
By ROXANA HEGEMAN
The Associated Press
Posted on Fri, Oct. 16, 2009 11:04 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1513064.html

WICHITA | A Mexican citizen was never prosecuted after his car trunk popped open 11 years ago, revealing a stash of more than 800 Kansas birth certificates and other fraudulent documents.

But Jorge Alvarez Rivera now faces a January sentencing in a separate identity theft case.

“I would like to see that this time it is taken seriously,” Donna Calabrese, director of the state’s Office of Vital Statistics, said Friday.

Rivera, also known as Daniel Salas, became a poster child for Kansas officials making presentations about identity theft since 830 state birth certificates were found in his trunk after a 1998 traffic accident near Liberal, Kan.

After conducting record searches, state officials estimated that Kansas was paying out $200,000 per month, or about $2 million annually, to 55 illegal immigrant families whose names were on some of those 830 documents.

Those benefits included state payments for medical costs, aid to dependent children and food, Calabrese said.

“It cost the taxpayers dearly,” she said.



Please QUIT following me around, trying to discredit me, my post, and other peoples Threads where I post.

The Thread Topic is,....

The New USA War.....Illegals....

NOT,..what YOU consider "bullsh.t"

Before you attack someones post, why dont YOU find something , like a "LINK" that disproves it,..before you continue your attacks on any thread I post in.

Its a shame we have this problem, caused by "illegals",....
and others that abuse the system,.....regardless of their status,..but this Thread is about "illegals", and their abuse, of our system.,
and the cost involved.
 bikerbiker53
Joined: 6/11/2005
Msg: 72 (view)
 
The New USA War.....Illegals....
Posted: 10/22/2009 9:09:09 AM
I agree with you 100 Percent !


Clamp down on employers hiring "illegals" and soon the word will get out ... "You may be able to sneak into our country, but we will not employ you."


That is one of the best ways to help solve this illegal problem.

I've lived Coast to Coast,..from New York City,...to Los Angeles, and a lot of places in between,...and have seen the problems of "Illegals" in a larger scope, than just seeing it in my own local.

California was a trip, (from 72, to 75),..the mass population of Hispanics are a Country, within themselves,....I was dumbfounded to see so many, living in such a manner,.....
until I saw the living conditions in places such as Tijuana, and Juarez,..once you get out of the Downtown district of either, its just horrible,..that was back in 72 to 75.

So I'm sure that the difference of living in squalor in Mexico, compared to living in Garages in LA,...is an improvement, yet creates problems for the USA.

In CALIFORNIA, the "Illegals" didn't bother me , I was young , in the Military, and just enjoying life too much to think about the problems illegals caused the State of California,....(or elsewhere)

Like I've said before,..I have sympathy for anyone who comes from a disadvantaged background, such as Hispanics,..

I've even said I feel sorry for Blacks, who are discriminated against.....its a shame that their is so much racism still alive in America,....but I've come to the conclusion that Racism has gone on since the beginning of time, and it will continue till the end of time,
I think its become a lot less of a problem, but there will always be Racism.

When I researched "Illegals",...it included all the Races of the World, that are here in the USA, illegally,...including the Irish.

I was shocked to find out there is a large influx of illegal Irish in NYC, and other places.

But Boy Oh Boy,after doing some research, and reading Links I've found concerning, and directly related to the Hispanic illegals,... its staggering,..the $Dollar Amount$ spent on keeping these Hispanic illegals are MASSIVE,.....

And I agree, not all of them are a Burden to our system and society, and YES, the cost of allowing "Legals" to take refuge here in our Country is a problem too,...I haven't read much about the $cost$ associated with that problem, but I'm sure its also Massive.

I hate to think of the squalor, and living conditions that a large majority of our neighbors "South of The Border" are stuck in,..and I could easily say,...
"Its Not My Problem",...and just brush it off, if I were so callous or cold hearted,....
But I cant.

The Government Officials, and Politicians in Mexico should be ashamed of them selves, for not doing more to help their brethren to improve their lot.

I think we, the USA, and other Countries around the world, should admonish the Government of Mexico for not taking better care of their Citizens, and helping to create this "Illegal" problem.

From whats I've read, the Drug Cartels have a stranglehold on the majority of the Country, its Politicians, and the Law Enforcement, and that is also another reason some illegals come to the USA, to get away from a corrupt system, where their caught in the cross hairs.
 
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