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KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 339 (view)

God's existence Posted: 11/23/2009 11:58:36 PM
Why can't people just accept that we will never really know until the day we die and until that day, we should just enjoy life and live to our fullest and be kind to all. WORD! I guess as an Agnostic, coming from a scientific background, this is the way I like to live my Life. I love mysteries, which is probably why I took an interest in science in the hope of gaining some explanations at least. And sure, we are ALL still left with the profound mystery that is Existence. But then, isn't that one of the reasons why we're here? To figure it all out, to learn, to grow and to understand? However, I do question your "Believe just in case" stance. That makes NO sense and I think you've raised such a position just in case God, whatever that is, IS indeed the egotistical, malevolent and angry "worship me or else!" dude that a lot of mainstream religions seem to believe in. In the scenario of a God that made this Beautiful Universe, one would have to assume that such an entity would not only be supremely intelligent, but also supremely reasonable and would not judge us unfairly, whether we choose to worship or not. But heck, who really knows aye? Best just to get on with your Life, learn as much as you can, teach your children to be better than you are, live in peace, respect each other and to take care of this Beautiful Planet for future generations. That much, at least, is clear to me. Allow our Species to survive long enough so we CAN find out what it ALL means… (Religiously motivated, Armageddon clap trap aside!)

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 128 (view)

Depression and spirituality Posted: 11/23/2009 10:23:08 PM
many people blame God for afflicting illness and death I certainly don't. I tend to blame things like lifestyle, genetics, viruses and bacteria and damn right pure bad luck! I must admit though, when I do see innocent people suffering, say a natural disaster on TV in which thousands of people are affected, I do wonder what kind of God would sit back and watch them suffer. But I sure as heck don't blame God. That would be a total cop out! If this is the kind of God that you believe in, I want no part of that. I second that. I was brought up in the church during my childhood and the question of the sins of Adam and Eve being wrought upon the rest of us, for all time, just seemed totally depressing. And despite all this talk of dedicating your Life to worship to avoid disease and death, just didn’t make any sense. How the heck can a terminally sick baby worship God to gain God’s forgiveness? Why do very good people, some totally devout Christians, die all the time? Were they not praying hard enough or something? None of this makes any sense. Anyway, this matter, among many many others, is what compelled me to turn my back on the Church during my teens and believe me, I have no intension of going back. If anything, wisdom, maturity and time has made my disbelief in the Church even stronger! kinky, I appreciate your support in that you believe that I have a right to my opinions even if you do not agree You are most welcome Mona. We both live in democracies and even though both our democratic systems are fundamentally flawed in each of our respective countries, one thing that I do believe in above ALL else, is Freedom. And you are most certainly free to express any opinion as you see fit, even if the rest of the world may disagree. But more to the point Mona, you don't take things personally, and that's why, even though a lot of people here might give you a verbal bashing, I don't think you have any enemies here because you've kept your cool. At the end of the day, these forums are here to facilitate debate. Not to bring out the worse kinds of Human behaviour. And for that Mona I thank you.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Depression and spirituality Posted: 11/23/2009 3:56:42 PM
DEBATING WITH A FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN IS LIKE TRYING TO PLAY CHESS WITH A PIDGEON THAT FLAPS ABOUT, KNOCKS ALL THE PIECES OVER, TAKES A CRAP ON THE BOARD AND THEN FLIES BACK TO IT'S NEST CLAIMING VICTORY :) Yeah... I guess I deserve that slap of Reality. This was the FIRST time I've had the misfortune of trying to reason with a fundamentalist Christian (online that is... I've had plenty of such rows in Real Life!) and rest assured, it will be my LAST. Next time I get an urge to argue with a crazed religious fruit cake please... Someone shoot me!

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 328 (view)

God's existence Posted: 11/23/2009 3:15:19 PM
^^^ LOL! Don't feed it mate... If you don't feed it, it might go away.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Depression and spirituality Posted: 11/23/2009 3:11:14 PM
^^^^ Mona... Even though I disagree with a LOT of your views, you still have my respect regardless. Don't listen to nor feed the nameless Troll that hounds you. Trolls hound everything. Themselves included. If you ignore them, these bad Trolls will get bored and go away you'll see. Keep Strong!

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 326 (view)

God's existence Posted: 11/23/2009 3:00:26 PM
Errr.... Was... Was someone talking to me? Ah... It was just a horsefly aye? ~...Son...~ reminds me of nothing so much as an annoying horsefly that buzzes around your head when trying to sun yourself at the beach. Best to just ignore them. Either that, or get a fly-zapping light, leave it by the window, and just let them be drawn in and zap themselves to death. My younger brother used to have one. I was amazed at just how many flies got drawn in by the light and zapped themselves in it. Thanks a lot guys for that refreshing tip... (Slaps head!)... NEVER feed the Internet Trolls aye? Even I know that! Guess I was just bored... But now I've had my fun After a while, even shooting Trolls gets a bit boring. But ~NamelessIrrelevantOne~ was such a juicy target. Anyway, time to ignore (just like virtually 99% of this thread has been doing all along!)

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Depression and spirituality Posted: 11/23/2009 1:42:10 AM
^^^^sickness and death are the result of sin and disobedience HUH? Sooo... Let me get this straight... All those poor people around the world, afflicted with preventable and terrible diseases, are all.... what, sinners?!?! Oh and we're all going to die eventually sooo… because we will all die then what, the whole Human Race consists of sinners?!!? Including yourself Mona?!? (Because I’m sorry to report, but you WILL die one day) This makes ZERO sense. In fact, with all due respect Mona, it makes NEGATIVE sense. Yeah that's right, your statement is even worse than zero sense. Damn I need to sit down... My brain is swirling...

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 9:16:05 PM
Personally, even though some of Monalee's posts are totally way above my head, at least she appears to be a pleasant Human Being, who is strong in her Faith and is at Peace. bitteralsorises seems to be on a war path! A sort of, suicidal fundamentalist "Christian" strapped with explosive words. If she ain't going to convert you using reasoned arguments, then to Hell with it! She's going to explode upon you! A totally self defeating approach which only serves to strengthen the resolve of those she opposes, those who choose to exercise their RIGHT to think as they wish. I would agree with you though that, even though I have the utmost respect for more reasoned and calm religious people like Monalee, why she feels it is her duty to spread the word, in here of all places, is a bit bizarre. People come here to debate on all sorts of issues. I don't think people come here to listen to scripture and people definitely don't come here to get attacked because they think differently. But that's just my point of view of course and at least Monalee shows a good example of a decent Christian. "What’sHerNameAgain?" on the other hand is a prime example of a bad one.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 284 (view)

God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 8:30:02 PM
HUH? How was I showing ignorance when I was excusing myself to go salvage my brain? I stated those words in reference to the complete and utter banality of your posts. ~thesonalsorises~ ... Do you get some sort of sick pleasure out of being an Internet Troll? Ah... Don't answer that. You're a Troll for crying out loud! Totally beyond Reason of any kind. Enjoy!

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 281 (view)

God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 7:58:08 PM
cannot you not see the pit through the Fire? Cause that is where you are at! WOW! You are simply sooo amazing that words fail me ~TheSonalsoRises~! You actually think that those who do not think as you do, will burn in the pits of fiery Hell and Damnation? Amazing... It really is... amazing. Well thank you for submitting that highly intelligent, useful and compelling bit of information to the table. Now this is what I call a highly intellectual debate folks! ~TheSonalsoRises~ has it all wrapped up. (Now excuse me while I go find what's left of my brain...)

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 274 (view)

God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 6:56:19 PM
^^^ Yeap... As I said... She ain't going nowhere. I mean... Where else can Trolls go anyway?

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 272 (view)

God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 6:51:21 PM
LOL thanks Krebby2001. Yeah... About my login name... I must admit when I first signed up to POF, after a friend introduced the site to me post a crazy night out, I was totally drunk and chose it for a laugh. I assumed, like with most online nicknames, that people would hardly notice these silly login names of ours. And most don't. But perhaps I should have realised that all sorts of people use POF, not just your usual, internet savvy population that generally takes a lot more interest in what you say, than how your name is spelt. I was going to change it, but heck, if people wish to judge others, based on silly nicknames, then perhaps it's wise I kept it just to keep those sorts of unsavoury people at bay. LOL... Don't worry about "She changes her name often". I doubt anyone can run her off these sites. It's her only link to "Reality" now and I use that word lightly.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

Msg: 268 (view)

God's existance Posted: 11/22/2009 4:48:41 PM
kb you been wanting a reaction from me for so long sorry I didn't feel the need to read your whole post as I have heard your nonsense previously. Do you know what judging someone is? look it up.....think about it for while.. then try and decipher the difference between judgment and the right to defend oneself or another or God.........against the anger manifested in ridicule, blaspheming , or name calling? rather juvenille I might add......but it is said that when a child is a bully when young without help and transformation.......they continue to bully because they hate themselves.......That is sad isn't it? plus my post was not for you anyway............ Well I've tried to be a gentleman here, but it is quite obvious that you are an unstable and mentally disturbed fruit cake. I mean, you’re always inserting zillions of these silly little smilies into you posts (yes, just like you I'm getting personal again), so why do heck should I even bother. Interesting you going on about name calling and juvenile behaviour because this is what you do all the damn time ~TheSonalsoRises~. But hey, most “religious” people I have met are some of the biggest hypocrites in the world. Preaching one thing whilst doing the total opposite. Anyway fruit loaf, I shall leave you to your disturbed madness. Looking forward (no I'm not really) to your next highly irrelevant post, complete with numerous silly little smilies. Hey, maybe it's therapy for you or something. So here you go: Feeling any better now?

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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God's existance Posted: 11/21/2009 6:35:18 PM
why thorby do you put down views' of others'? because you yourself cannot grasp the concept of God? can you answer that or like many of the God and believers' bashers' ........have the need to point the finger outward instead of looking at yourself ; by asking yourself why are you threatened by God's existance???? ~TheSonalsoRises~ Just as you attack others for NOT believing as you do, why complain when those same others attack YOU? When it comes to the Big G, I have already said that without concrete evidence, EITHER way, and that upon simply accepting the facts as we see them, which is we live in an IMMENSE, highly complex and beautiful Universe which is almost beyond Human comprehension and whose "birth" is indeed totally beyond our comprehension (currently at least), then to define God, if indeed such a concept exists, without the full facts before us is problematic at best, for some of us at least anyway. And I'm sorry, but a book that’s been written, and re-written, over 1000's of years simply does not constitute physical, or indeed, metaphysical proof! Personally, I need a lot more than that, and simply having you and others say that it is then, with respect that simply doesn't cut it for me! And yes, I also claim that if I don't get it, then I don't think anyone else does either. Hence why faith plays such a HUGE part in religion. Having that blind belief in something beyond all physical Human senses and comprehension, compelling them to go all out with their hearts. Such a deeply personal experience is difficult to share with others, because unless we can physically touch it, see it, taste it, hear it or smell it, then it all becomes totally subjective. Now... Someone like me will literally need to see that burning bush, and believe me, if I do, I'll be asking a shed load of questions... Why? Because I want to LEARN, not fall flat on my face in fear and worship to some supernatural being. I will, of course, experience some fear, but then that would be perfectly normal when faced with something that I simply do not understand. Now... This is MY view. Some share it. Others are indifferent. And some like you obviously don't. This brings me to the concept of Free Will I guess. We are ALL free to think and feel how we wish. For Good or for Ill. Attacking others for views that you may find abhorrent, even though they are not attacking you personally, is totally counterproductive. The reason that you and I have clashed, is simply because you attacked me personally. You have already stated that my name, as well as my views, offends you, which really does not add any intelligence to help progress this debate further. Take a leaf out of monalee1's book. Her faith is VERY strong . So much so that, even though she and I will disagree passionately on MANY things, our differences will NOT get personal. In fact ~TheSonalsoRises~, the more venomous you become, the more I feel that that justifies my position and strengthens the plethora of evidence which suggests that a LOT of inherent arrogance exists within MANY mainstream institutional religions. This may explain the obvious links between War and Religion. Regardless, I've experienced this arrogance first hand from within my own Family and throughout my Life. There IS arrogance too of course, on the other side of the fence and NO ONE is perfect. But my advice to you is to simply act accordingly and fight fires only where you see them. Blind aggression will simply get you no where. Especially if you're trying to win an argument. Oh and for the record... I am NOT a religious basher. Simply not towing certain religious lines does NOT make me a basher. Again, I plead to you, choose your targets wisely, unless you want an all out trolling war that you simply cannot win. And finally... I don't feel threatened in the least when it comes to that big G word. Whatever God is, it's all totally beyond me anyway and I got my Life to get on with. A finite Life that I will endeavour to spend wisely and justly to the best of my abilities. Simply being non religious does NOT make someone a bad person. And I've seen WAY too much of the converse; "religious" people doing insanely evil things, to make it as clear as day to me and others that being religious does not automatically make one a good person. I don't have the luxury of living in such a simplistically stupid, naive and imaginary black and white world. I choose to live in Reality and Reality is a very grey arena. Always has been and it always will be.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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The Angel of Death... Posted: 11/20/2009 8:33:23 PM
YAWN.... Thanks Light for that next clip... I hope it puts peoples mind to rest by re-emphasising that bodily seizures does not equate to demonic forces taking over ones soul. Damn... Are some people sooo bored as to believe ANYTHING these days?

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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How can you prove soul exists after death? Posted: 11/20/2009 8:22:52 PM
Errr... Is that a trick question?

KinkyBastard

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Mars or the moon? Posted: 11/20/2009 8:19:54 PM
Is it me or is this thread going off on some really bizarre tangents?

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Mars or the moon? Posted: 11/20/2009 6:31:00 AM
In two words... The Moon. With its close proximity and low gravity, The Moon is the perfect launching pad to propel us finally into Space. As said its close by and so would be a LOT cheaper than embarking upon a long stretch to Mars directly. The Moon appears to have water, although exactly how much is uncertain. Oh and we've been there before and that experience will prove invaluable. Errrr... I haven't read too deeply into this raging debate going on here, but if people are stating that our natural urge to go into Space will somehow destroy Life out there, well Mars might be an open question when it comes to indigenous Life but I'm quite certain that the Moon is a rock, nothing more. Sure, it may harbour some complex organic molecules, but since it has no atmosphere and is thus subject to solar and cosmic radiation, as well a long and brutal history of impact events, its a pretty safe bet that The Moon has no Life for us to upset should we choose to go there. Anyway, the only way to find out, once and for all, is to go there of course and explore thoroughly. The alternative is that if we DON'T entertain our natural desire to go into Space, the population of the Human Race will, eventually, reach unsustainable levels, if indeed we haven't reached that dangerous threshold already. As for Mars... Well that would be a big, exciting and ultimately highly expensive adventure with no real long term benefits as far as I can see. One step at a time folks... One step at a time...

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/19/2009 6:27:05 PM
I say "our universe" of course because it’s "our home". There is no reason to assume that our universe is a singleton. It's all totally beyond proof of course, but there may be other "universes" out there. But heck... Each to their own. Besides, we all have a direct, physical link to the universe anyway so that in some ways, we ARE a complex manifestation of it. And thats the whole flipping point. Even if we last two million years, our time on earth won't even then represent .05% of Earths 4.5 billion year lifespan. So even with thousands of planets within ear shot of us that could be capable of supporting intelligent life; inorder to have any two of them to do so at the same time is highly unlikely. This is a VERY good point. We’re talking HUGE intervals of time and space when trying to fathom the evolution and interaction, if indeed it does happen, of so called “intelligent Life” here within our home galaxy, such that the probability of us finding intelligent Life, without some means of interstellar propulsion, will be pretty darn small. Factor in the fact that we have NO idea how an extra terrestrial civilization would behave, let alone communicate, if indeed it even wanted to communicate and interact with a less advanced species like ourselves, and those chances of finding ET not only remain small, but will become automatically unreliable due to incomplete data. I’m not saying that SETI enthusiasts should give up, good luck to them, I really mean that and I hope they DO find something, but when you look at the cold hard facts it does all seem rather overwhelming to the point of pointlessness. Anyway, I think the far bigger challenge is to preserve the ONE “intelligent” species we definitely know exists here in the Milky Way…. Us. :wink:

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/19/2009 10:35:57 AM
That's a really tough question jubbly. One that no one is really qualified to answer. Sure, we have that famous (infamous?) Drake equation which gives us a rough (very rough) estimate on the number of extra terrestrial civilizations within our home galaxy, but then again, it's all just a numbers game isn't it? However personally, I don't like to believe that somehow: intelligence = eventual extinction Such brutal simplicity kinda calls into question what it means to be "intelligent" and last I checked, intelligence equates to enlightenment and therefore, I assume, would naturally lead to avoiding, whenever possible, blowing up oneself out of existence. Again, as Human Beings, we can only look upon Reality through our own eyes, coloured by our own experiences and I would even go so far as to say that we're perhaps not as intelligent as we’d like to think. That much is obvious in our current World, shaped and crafted by the brutal legacies of our own Past. But then, I also believe that we're simply learning... Simply trying to find our way on our feet so to speak. Perhaps not “fully intelligent” but nonetheless, being the dominant animal on the planet, we are grappling with all the issues, problems and responsibilities that come with having such power. And at the moment it’s difficult to say how that progress is going. A bit one step forward, 3 steps back perhaps? LOL! Okay maybe that’s unfair but it’s obvious that we still have a long, LONG way to go that’s for sure. Nonetheless, given today’s technology, we could easily destroy ourselves. But then, that would simply prove that we were not smart enough to avoid our own demise at our own hands. Intelligence... A small word which means many things, but as with everything else, it's not simply a black and white issue. And on that "greyscale" of intelligence, it's perhaps safe to say that we don't score as highly as we'd like to think. Maybe a better simplistic equation would be: intelligence (is inversely proportional to) extinction I.e. the higher the collective intelligence of a certain technological species the lower the chances of mutually assured annihilation. My two cents anyway.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/19/2009 9:17:18 AM
OK... These are the facts, as we currently know them. Taking our Milky Way galaxy alone, it consists of some 100 to 400 BILLION stars. Light, the fastest thing we know, travelling at a "mere" 300,000 kilometres per SECOND, will take about 100,000 YEARS just to travel from one side of our galaxy to the opposite side within the galactic plane and about 1000 YEARS to travel from the top of the galactic centre to the bottom. What does all this mean? It means that our galaxy alone is freaking HUGE that's what it means. So huge that it's beyond Human comprehension. Sure, we can crunch really BIG numbers, but really visualizing them is virtually impossible to do. OK... That's the Milky Way sorted... Our home galaxy. The observable Universe, and note how I say "observable" (i.e. that which we can only see) is thought to have well over 100 BILLION galaxies and that is merely a rough estimate because to be honest, no one really knows. The observable Universe is so BIG that this time, light would take about 93 BILLION YEARS to get from one side of it, to another. And that's just the observable bit mind you. So... Bottom line, REALITY, as we know it, remains largely unknown, but from what we can observe, appears to be so large it defies the Human brain utterly. Now there are detractors that may say that our Universe may in fact be a lot "smaller", based on differing versions of our cosmological models, but bottom line, ALL will agree that our Universe, as we currently know it, is MASSIVE... No matter HOW you look at it! OK... Now for the implications for Life. Using the facts I've highlighted above, if we were to calculate just how many stars there are in the Universe, you will come up with a really STUPID answer. Stupid because the answer will be so large as to become virtually meaningless to the Human Mind. OK... Now not all stars will be capable of sustaining Life of course. But then... Define Life? Astrobiology is a new and emerging (some would say exotic) branch of Science that is well in it's infancy, so even asking a simple question such as, what exactly IS Life, takes new levels of prominence. Nonetheless, other planets HAVE been found, indirectly of course, around nearby star systems close to our own. And there is NO reason to assume that planets are somehow special within our own star system. They're not. Planets are simply part and parcel of the huge clouds of gas and dust which forms stars in the first place and so, just as there are stupid amounts of stars out there in the cosmos, there will be even more outrageous amounts of planets. So, even if just an insignificant fraction of these planets had all the relevant conditions for Life, as WE know it currently, then you'll begin to understand that the probability for Life goes up exponentially to become virtually 1 (i.e. 100%). As I said, when it comes to Life, its all theory regarding exactly what Life is and how Life evolves etc. Problems we're still grappling with today BUT, when it comes to the number crunching Game, in a Universe whose size is beyond comprehension, the idea that there is NO Life besides us, just doesn't make one single bit of sense. Without some direct proof, it's not a solid water tight argument perhaps, but the alternative "We are alone in the Universe" argument stands up, without any direct evidence also, even less. And so, if I HAD to place my bet, I would bet that ET does exist, in one form or another.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/19/2009 7:36:06 AM
~TheSonalsoRises~ It has changed its name I see... Sorry, did I touch a nerve perhaps when I mentioned that a lot of us here have crazy silly names? Not that there’s anything wrong with that of course. It’s all just a bit of fun aye? But heck, if you really ARE offended, try a Christian dating site. Much, much safer with really “nice”, like minded people. To be honest... "Whatever your name is now", I wish we could just get back on track with an "intelligent" debate, silly names aside of course. But then, you don't really have much to add do you, besides insulting people here and quoting those funny, irrelevant words of absolute nonsense. Come back to me when you have something intelligent to say. And please stick to this current silly name of yours. It makes even less sense than your last one and is thus, highly apt for someone of your standing.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/12/2009 7:44:18 AM
Whoa.... ^^^^ I think you ARE crazy Oh and I'm sorry if my name offends you btw. Just like you, some of us have crazy names. All part and parcel of the fun in a dating site and nothing to take too seriously. Peace and Bless…

KinkyBastard

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Greed... is good? I definitely think so. Posted: 11/12/2009 7:37:13 AM
Without getting too bogged down with the semantics of Capitalism and Free Trade etc, all I can say is that greed is a highly irrational form of Human behaviour. It IS, after all, classified as a sin in certain religions. So that said, any system that at its heart, uses greed as its engine to drive forward, will inevitably crash. We're already starting to see the wheels come of Capitalism because of greed and because of greed, there WILL be further economic collapses in the future. So... Is greed good? Personally, I don't think irrational Human behaviour is good in any way, shape or form. Nonetheless it is an unfortunate aspect of our behaviour. One that needs to be controlled, along with all the other crappy aspects of Human behaviour, lest we destroy ourselves.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/9/2009 8:42:03 PM
Monalee1... Hon you need to relax. How was I promoting fear? I am a very humble man in that I am perfectly happy to claim that yes, God... Whatever, whomever that may or may not be, is a concept that as far as I am concerned, is beyond comprehension. That is MY "belief" for want of a better word. And notice how I choose not to say that God simply does not exist, which is the "belief" of a typical Atheist. I'm quite happy to sit somewhere in between and admit that yes, I don't understand, and with respect, I don't think anyone else does either. So I tell you what... Let's keep our "beliefs" to ourselves aye? You have your views and I have mine. How on Earth that promotes fear is simply beyond me. Oh and with regards to the “fall of man”... That is simply our doing... Our own folly. And I would much rather blame man ANY day, than simply cop out and say it's all the work of the Devil. The quicker we wake up and take FULL responsibility for our own Destiny, the better.

KinkyBastard

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/9/2009 5:46:47 PM
many people have Gods Spirit Teaching them simply because they sincerely ask..... God made the Universe, He can Teach us all about it ... blessings Mmmm... I get it (or maybe I don’t)... So there is NO point in us teaching ourselves right? We have to somehow... And I use that word wincingly... Somehow communicate with God so that God can teach us how the Universe works. This smells like a cop out... Don't think... Let God think for you. Dangerous stuff... Dangerous.

KinkyBastard

Joined: 1/3/2008

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Richard Dawkins fans? Posted: 11/9/2009 4:20:11 PM
LOL! I think we can safely establish that rug doctor is obviously NOT a Richard Dawkins fan. Neither am I as it goes... And perhaps I should clarify one or two points. Being a non-fan who has better things to do than take a deep look into the Life of Richard Dawkins, I am unsure about his political affiliations or his personal views on various subject matters. However, one area that does interest me, is his die hard views on Science, especially Genetics and Evolution, which is taking a serious battering these days. I also firmly believe in our current scientific models... Sure, they are NOT perfect, but as models go, they are bloody useful and are in a process of constant refinement. And heck, we have to start somewhere right? Lest we go back to primal forms of superstitious clap trap! So yes... In terms of defending Science as a whole, Evolution in particular... He's got my vote hands down. As for the rest... It doesn't really interest me to be honest. Hence why I rightly claim not to be a fan. Oh… And yes… If it is not already obvious, I do have some serious concerns about certain aspects of main stream Religion. Something that Dawkins also takes very, very seriously.

KinkyBastard

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Has God always existed? Posted: 11/9/2009 4:02:48 PM
Yikes... Good luck with this thread people... Grappling with concepts which are totally beyond comprehension is... well... pretty pointless if you ask me. But by all means OP... You can ask ANY question you like... That is your Free Will. But I strongly advise you to take any answer you get, especially here, in a dating site of all places, with a HUGE mountain of salt! Anyway, for what it's worth, I hope you find the answers you seek.

KinkyBastard

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Msg: 114 (view)

Richard Dawkins fans? Posted: 11/9/2009 10:59:26 AM
Don't get me wrong. The man could do with some work with regards to his humility and modesty, to name but two, however I do like the man for his razor sharp, no nonsense, straight to the bloody point, intellect. Something which, these days, is in serious decline. So although I would definitively not classify myself as a fan, I do like listening to him. I don't agree with him on all points and I suppose my biggest gripe with him is his "belief" that God does not exist. A petty wild claim since such a concept is beyond Science to even answer and is thus a question which has no objective, definitive answer either way. However, I have been warmed to the man when he retracted such claims slightly, by aptly inserting the word "probably" right after God in that sentence. Since even he has to acknowledge that, smart he may be, he does not know everything and that some things are simply unknowable. So yeah... I do like the man. Enough to have an interesting chat over a couple of beers. But I have yet to buy any of his books (even though I've been meaning to) and I certainly don't follow his every move. Nonetheless, we NEED people like Richard Dawkins, especially in a world that is going completely nuts!

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Msg: 61 (view)

The dumbing down of society and its impact on children and public mindset towards intelligence Posted: 11/9/2009 9:35:11 AM
Ah... To be honest, if I were to contribute to this thread, I'd end up writing several essays. As a teacher of almost 14 years now, I've seen a lot of things going wrong, not just with our children, but with society at large that has really saddened me. I think scorpiomover summed it up quite well in another thread pertaining to the "over success" of a Civilization. Here in the West, we have everything we need, even though there are huge chunks of Humanity that have virtually nothing. And as such, we're becoming fatter, lazier and dumber. The main thing that brought down the highly successful Roman Empire, was the Empire itself, in a swathe of corruption, sleaze and scandal. Looks like the West has a damn good chance of going down in exactly the same fashion (don't people read History books anymore?). So... God help us all. One caveat perhaps, not that I'm a practising Christian or anything, is that my folks were always banging on about how the Bible talks about how "the meek shall inherit the Earth". Well, with the way we're going, that might just happen. So maybe it's not so bad after all.

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Msg: 108 (view)

MIGHT solarcycle24 dispel manmade global warming? Posted: 10/27/2009 11:04:00 AM
I certainly don't wish to wade into this highly controversial debate, but I just had to say this: So what if global warming IS a natural phenomenon? Do we simply just carry on with the way we're going? Using up fossil fuels that will eventually run out anyway. And in the process of burning these fuels, pay the obvious price as breathing abnormalities and disorders rise globally? Do we, smug in the knowledge that it's all Natures fault that the Earth is warming, continue to decimate and plunder the jungles and natural resources all around the world, wiping out whole species of life in the process? Do we continue using ineffective technology without even bothering to innovate and research smarter, cheaper and yes, cleaner technologies? I could go on and on with this... But what worries me about these dubious claims that somehow we are NOT responsible for climate change, is that we will simply carry on doing what we're doing and reach a point, global warming or no global warming, in which Life on this planet will become utterly unbearable due to our own selfish actions. So for me it's VERY clear. I don't give a rat’s ass if people believe we're NOT responsible for climate change. It is quite obvious that either way, we have to change and adapt... Or die. Simple.

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Msg: 187 (view)

I Don't Need A Man.., I very Independent..etc etc = RED Flags? Posted: 10/26/2009 8:31:04 AM
Personally, I love independent women. So if I do see the statement; "I don't need a man" here, on this dating website, then logic dictates that they perhaps really don't NEED a man but the fact that they're even here obviously means that they WANT one. There is a subtle difference here... But it's an important one. So no... I don't think women who put this on their profiles automatically means that the red flags should go up. And besides... I think it's kinda sexy when women are self assured and KNOW what they want.

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Msg: 51 (view)

Nobel peace prize for nuclear weapons Posted: 10/13/2009 10:41:58 PM
Agreed. The genie is most definitely out of the bottle... There's no doubt about that. So that said, I guess we're stuck with the current state of affairs and a fragile "Peace" that can easily be snuffed out in an instant.

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Msg: 49 (view)

Nobel peace prize for nuclear weapons Posted: 10/13/2009 9:47:41 PM
Let’s see... Using a VERY poor analogy, if we all sat around a table with loaded deadly weapons pointing at each other, can we call that some kind of "Peace"? Self preservation prevailing, I guess we'd all be freaked out at such an appalling scenario, and if the fact of mutually blowing ourselves away terrifies us into putting all guns on hold so that some kind of truce is established... Well if that's "Peace", then it’s a very poor quality of Peace, consumed with unrelenting tension. And in such a tense situation, all it takes is one crazy, trigger happy fool to start the guns blazing. Now, remove all those deadly weapons and sure, you won't necessarily get people to start liking each other, singing "Kum bay ya, my Lord, kum bay ya", but if there are any serious fights and disagreements, then at least everyone, especially those who are not even involved in the dispute, have a damn good chance of survival. Not exactly perhaps Peace, but it's definitely better than the former. However, perhaps I do have to add just one thing. Nukes have finally forced most of us to take a pretty deep look at our warlike nature. To face up to the dire possibility of the self extinction of our Species. I'm not saying that all of us we learn from the important lessons that nukes are trying to teach us, but in a highly imaginary world, POST nuclear weapons, perhaps such lessons may bring on a stronger, long lasting Peace. But if History has taught us anything, is that we seem to have great difficulty learning from our past mistakes.

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Msg: 458 (view)

the earth is growing Posted: 10/8/2009 10:44:00 PM
So this is what we know... around new stars, we have giant rings of dust, and no planets... some have bulges in the dust like small planets are starting to take shape. Ancient stars we find Massive planets bigger than Jupiter. Light, one thing to remember is that astronomical evidence suggests that MOST star systems that we can observe, at least within the vicinity of our solar system, are multiple star systems. This is perhaps why most extra solar planets found orbiting other stars, are in fact gas giants. This supports the evidence stated above that stars tend to be born along side sibling stars, since in the case of these extra solar gas giants, they are simply one or two steps away from being brown dwarves; sub stellar objects that are not quite planets but not quite stars either. Also, the fact that most extra solar planets are gas giants, or perhaps even brown dwarves, is simply due to the insensitivity of our current astronomical instruments. We are, after all, trying to look for a needle in a VERY large haystack. And right now, the only way to do that is to look for indirect evidence. Only the largest class of planets, gas giants, are massive enough to increase our chances dramatically of finding such indirect evidence, by "wobbling" their parent star due to a very tight and unusually close orbit. So I just wanted to clarify that just in case you think that the evidence accumulated so far on extra solar planets backs up your Growing Earth theory. It doesn't. What little has been found, 373 planets and rising, are mostly gas giants, NOT super large rocky planets.

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Msg: 10 (view)

who's your master? Posted: 10/8/2009 10:11:16 PM
who's your master? Myself.

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Msg: 42 (view)

When Sex is on Your Mind.. Posted: 10/6/2009 4:12:42 PM
...way, Way, WAY too often. There's a LOT of talk of woman having increased libido during their 30s etc, but I swear some of us men are going through it too dammit! So yeah, I'm getting in plenty of hand exercises at the moment until the right woman comes my way. A very poor substitute but at least it slays The Beast!

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Msg: 9 (view)

After Intimacy why do guys usually back off? Posted: 10/6/2009 4:03:51 PM
^^^^^ LOL! Please don't tell me that was for me... But heck... There's a first time for everything right?

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Msg: 630 (view)

Very long hair on a woman is very femine and sexy, but few women have long hair Posted: 10/6/2009 4:00:49 PM
LOL! This statement seems very culturally biased I have to say. I'm not sure where the OP is from (I haven't read the original post), but surely this is simply just one view. Personally I think beautiful women can look hot with long, short and indeed NO hair at all! I certainly don't have a preference. If the woman is hot, then she's hot. Case closed! Anyway, just to add, I always did have a crush on Sinéad O'Connor and Skin from Skunk Anansie. Now these two looked HOT with their bald heads.

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Msg: 7 (view)

After Intimacy why do guys usually back off? Posted: 10/6/2009 3:51:38 PM
No... This isn’t me I'm glad to say. I love snuggling up with my woman after sex. Sure, dependent upon just how mind blowing the sex was, I might dose off to sleep LOL! But in such instances, I will be dosing off to sleep with her cuddled up in my arms. This just feels natural to me after sharing the profound intimacies of sex. One "problem" that I DO have though, is listening to love songs during sex LOL! Now this totally FREAKS me out! I guess one cheap answer I can come up with, is that having sickly sweet, cheesy love songs in the background simply distracts me in my efforts to perform. But I think the truth is, is that maybe the whole experience just feels so serious and over-whelming. And I prefer my sex to be fun and enjoyable and not so damn serious and profound! I can't generalize of course, but I think for most men (and indeed some women) sex is just a fantastic and highly pleasurable physical activity. Sure, there is an emotional elemental to it of course, but I reckon most people play this down. At least until the "physical activity" is over. Just me 2 cents anyway.

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Msg: 435 (view)

the earth is growing Posted: 10/6/2009 3:18:56 PM
Ah... I was hoping this thread died a quiet, silent death as I have not seen it on the main page forums list for a while... Trust Light (again) to shock this VERY dead horse back to Life aye! Light... You know, during our last little tussle I am SO glad I finally got you to admit the existence of subduction. I've been reading around and apparently, many, if not all, growing earth theories claim that such phenomena do NOT exist. So right now, I'm not quite sure what camp you're in. It seems you are now "in-between" theories, perhaps just like Neal Adams who, like yourself, has no formal scientific background. I suppose its progress, of a sort, but what you really need to do now is look at some of the logical consequences of living on a planet whose plates are going through a highly complex process of destruction and renewal. Do that and hopefully you will conclude that the Earth, although not entirely static, is nonetheless definitely NOT expanding at an exponential rate. And at times, may even appear to SHRINK!

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Msg: 5 (view)

Everything is moving at the Speed of Light Posted: 10/4/2009 8:07:52 PM
Mmmm... I'm not sure about this. The thing about speed / velocity is that it ONLY makes sense when measured against something else. The OP mentions the speed of the Earth around the Sun for instance. But speed of the Earth relative to what exactly? However I will add this. Relative to observers in some far, flung galaxy on the "other" side of the Universe, we would appear to be moving away from them at immense speeds, perhaps very close to the speed of light. This is due to the expansion of the Universe. And in fact, I've read somewhere that there could be regions that are sooo far away from us that IF we could observe such areas, we would see that they would appear to be receding away at speeds beyond that of light. But of course these regions of space are totally inaccessible, totally unknowable and totally unobservable. Which I suppose is a neat way of protecting the edict that nothing travels faster than light. Nothing observable anyway. Also... Adding velocities is not that straightforward. Velocities are speeds endowed with particular directions (i.e. vectors). So as the post above me has correctly indicated, velocities can easily diminish, or even cancel each other out, if they don't point in the same direction. And then, even if you could deduce the “absolute”, overall velocity of say the Earth, you would STILL need to use a reference point of some sort. This is why Einstein named his theory using that word “relativity”, because one can only measure motion in relative terms only.

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Msg: 346 (view)

When a woman is squirting...exactly what is squirting out and from where? Posted: 10/1/2009 12:28:14 PM
^^^^^ Errr... But it's OK when YOU leave a wet patch right?

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Msg: 284 (view)

The Big/little bang,,,are we being decieved??? Posted: 10/1/2009 12:16:49 PM
I hear that... But it is my belief that when Human Beings do, occasionally, think outside the box, then there’s a good chance something good, perhaps even revolutionary, may come out of it. Sometimes asking the Big questions, such as, what exactly does it mean to be a Human Being, may compel us to THINK our way out of a crisis. As was the case when the European Convention on Human Rights was formulate some years after World War II. Sure, it hasn’t prevented further wars but at least we now have a framework which embodies high ideals and values. It’s a start, if nothing else, but let's face it, we definitely need new types of thinking and better ways of doing things to get out of this current / looming crisis. The day we truly stop thinking about the BIG issues, is the day the Human Race is effectively dead.

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Msg: 421 (view)

the earth is growing Posted: 10/1/2009 10:48:29 AM
Light... I've seen countless footage of subduction occurring within oceanic trenches. Now here is the million dollar question: A) Was I hallucinating? B) Is it all a conspiracy? "They're lying to us I tell you! Lying to us!" C) Is it an undeniable fact which blows the Growing Earth Theory out of the water? D) Or have you simply no clue whatsoever to address the fact that subduction is a scientific FACT, which is being observed as we speak. Place your answer please and NO, you may NOT phone a friend (i.e. run off and post yet another irrelevant link).

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Msg: 7 (view)

Mind Games Posted: 10/1/2009 9:44:51 AM
^^^^ Ah you're right fish. It was small of me and I apologize to the OP. That said though, it IS brave of him to post such thoughts here in the wide open. That's something I certainly wouldn't have the guts to do myself in fear of being ridiculed. So I have to hand it to the OP's bravery. Regarding his experience, well, we've all had our minds playing tricks on us from time to time. The mind is a VERY complex "thing", something we don't fully understand. But OP, I doubt you'll get any solid explanations here mate... I don't think any of us are qualified in that area. But at least you'll get plenty of advice regardless. Good Luck!

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Msg: 420 (view)

the earth is growing Posted: 10/1/2009 9:34:43 AM
^^^^ Agreed, an Earth that grew volume wise while maintaining a stable mass would, I suppose, in principle not effect it in a purely gravitational sense and would thus maintain a stable orbit. However, there are variations to this theory that dictate that it is a mass wise increase as well as a volume wise increase, so that the gravity at the Earth's surface remains constant, thus being in agreement with the over-whelming evidence that it is indeed constant. Then there is the proposal that the universal gravitational constant has to change in order to accommodate this theory, a pretty hair brained idea if you ask me! Anyway, going back to the point of a volume wise expansion. Putting aside the bizarre notion that the Earth's surface gravity would be diminishing as it lost density, if you look at some of Light Storms' posts, the Moon is also expanding too. Which means that eventually, these two objects will "merge". Whatever mess gets left behind will, I think you'll agree, likely have it's orbit altered.

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Msg: 5 (view)

Mind Games Posted: 10/1/2009 7:55:19 AM
Man... That must have been some SERIOUS high grade weed dude!!!

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Msg: 282 (view)

The Big/little bang,,,are we being decieved??? Posted: 10/1/2009 7:47:12 AM
What concerns me is that we are fu*** our world up so meticulously and efficiently and so quickly that it may be pointless to wonder or ponder at all . WOW can somebody spell the phrase “C O P O U T” for me please? So we should just roll over and give up huh? We are blessed with one of the most complex minds ever, we have FULL control over our own destiny (OK granted we live in a bullst system, but it is OUR bulls**t system!), and yet we should just simply, give up? What a waste! Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying things are easy, because they're not, but talking soft like this is exactly WHY we live in such a messed up world. The more apathetic we get, the more the wealthy and powerful elites will simply do just what the hell they like, no matter the damage they cause! Anyway, with regards to wonder, pondering and thinking about far BIGGER questions that go above and beyond our crazy, insignificant species, is basically what keeps me sane these days. But heck, each to their own I guess.

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Msg: 111 (view)

Do guys like sweet & innocent or naughty girls? Posted: 10/1/2009 7:25:56 AM
Sweet an' innocent on the outside and naughty on the inside Yeah, that's a damn good combination. This woman I was with a while back, was VERY, VERY shy when I met her. She never even had the courage to speak to me, let alone look at me. Anyway, when I had to take direct measures to begin a relationship with her, she was the dirtiest minx I have ever been with. The things we did in bed were beyond the pale LOL! It's really true what they say about the shy ones... They're the best ones in bed!

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