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 Author Thread: A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 25 (view)
 
A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
Posted: 10/23/2009 12:23:59 AM
Nothing cryptic about finding trolls ...




- The OP is talking about a permanent move for the kids, not just a holiday.
"Exactly."




Isn't it funny that we talk about women as judges or men as judges and how they pre-judge things for one reason or another. And yet, most of us here have already pre-judged WHICH parent is attempting to take the children to France when we have not been given that piece of information.


Thank You!.. I am actually trying to seek "real" imput from ones here at POF that might have some "real" dealings with this arena of Family Courts...i.e amkeli

I did my best to leave gender out of this.Courts are to work judicially blind to gender. Thought this would also stop the AZZ-suming trolls free and keep the ? free of gender bashing.

My friend is at their wits end... The case has not even been to trail and it's over 18 months old.

Anyone that's want through a nasty divorce and has their life back together knows that it is totally emotional draining ...

I did tell my friend there was NO Way the Judge would allow their request. I ask that they site a precedented case.
I posted this question here,because...

They would get to see input from maybe others, also to allow me to gain some useful information to show them to stop spending time,energy, and resources seeking this endevor.One that's probability is unherd of by me...Again my work in the Family Courts are limited to a handful of cases, and my mind boggles at times the way they operate.

The speech difference, France even allowing citizenship,International enforcement are a few that didn't even pop into my mind...

So to those posters THANKS!

Post note:

You know, if people stopped fighting each other through their kids the world would be a happier place...


I agree 100%...I preached this years ago when I first joined here ...
However A rainbow/butterfly world full of magical unicorns divorce is not the REAL world.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
Posted: 10/19/2009 10:49:59 PM

Since they were married and most likely he was named on childrens birth certificates, nope no Judge would do that unless parental rights on one side were terminated.


Nope, not true.

(A)agrees, then Judge could easily sign the order.. This is not likely.


It is called Kidnapping if she leaves with the kids on him.


I don't believe I said the gender of my friend anywhere.

You are correct in th sense that if they were to leave NOW, that the courts are envolved it would in fact be kidnapping, if they did not have the courts permission.

Most states upon simply filing for custody in the order ,even be fine print, state it's illegal to even leave your own state with the child/ren while custody dispute is active..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 9 (view)
 
A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
Posted: 10/19/2009 10:02:38 PM

If you have 20 years experience in law I would assume that you would already know the answer to your question.


Yes, I am 99.99% sure the answer. I already informed my friend of that. I was first upset when this morning when they told me they sent notice to the court of this request. But as I digested this thought I realized, it's always good to set the bar high. Stranger things have happened, and my friend thinks money is the only motive for the revenge, and by willing to give up the house (middle-upper end in this zip code) as well as other financial funds and such an " order" will be given.

However, points like message 7 and the visa should shine some light for my friend.

For message 4...You are close. As their spouses attorney is a "pit bull" the emergency custody "order" has my friend striped of visitation of the children, because of "Flight Risk" They have not seen the daughters in almost 18 months, and when they went to the school to seem them, got arrested.

The courts did not ask them to surrender their passport yet though.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:55:28 PM

Hmmmmm... Looks like you are fishing to me.
Thumbs down buddy.


Fishing?.. Naw. I have 20 years experience in the State and Fed law. My case hase been closed for 5 years. I have 100% full custody and Mom has had "Parental Rights" removed. Both myself and daughter have passports.(no I'm not going to france)

However,I am limited firsthand to but a 1/2 dozen Family Law cases I've helped with, and none asking of this request in MY state.

Therefore I posted this without the thoughts I gave my friend, and the hopes of getting some useful input, and also to allow my friend to see imputs of others with simular input to the same situation.

THANKS
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
A divorce order to allow kids to move from country??
Posted: 10/19/2009 7:31:52 PM
Okay without putting my court experience bias into this, please tell me what you really think.

Would a judge order kids to be allowed to move to another country if spouse refuses to agree in a divorce

I have a friend(J) going through a nasty divorce with (A)that at the age of, (both) 40, has uprooted the perfect world. High school sweethearts. Two kids, 1/2 million dollar house,no affairs or drugs. From the out-side pretty much perfect world.

When (J) filed for divorce, (A), went for the throat. Managed to get emergency custody of kids, but was ordered to keep spouse with house/utilities/car payment paid for, and a phone call everyday to both children ages 8 & 9.

After 18 months (J) just wants the kids, and will give up all to house/moneies/etc , and asked that they be able to move from USA to France, and agrees daughters can return for 2 weeks up to 4 times a year and though they have no connections to France, but when vacationed as a family there 2 years ago, did not want to come home after several weeks. (A) came back to USA and (J) returned with kids 3 1/2 months later after treats.

Upon a pick-up at the airport. A and J get into a big fight and divorce is filed.

Since Divorce/Custody trial is only 3 weeks away...Question are!!

Would a Judge in the USA every order this?? Has anyone ever heard of this? And what are thoughts? Fare request or unreasonable... (A) will never agree , it will have to be court ordered.

THANKS
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 149 (view)
 
funny online dating profiles
Posted: 10/2/2009 5:06:21 PM
What??? are you telling me this isn't a serious place to meet your mate, and some people are just here funnin'

Say it isn't so Joe!

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Ever look at a profile just to see what's in background?
Posted: 9/12/2009 4:10:27 PM
Alllll the time. I'm a picture junky...


On that note i can't even begin to count the times i have clicked on a profile who shows up in my search of non smokers only to see them obviously smoking in one of the pictures


.....in one of the pictures????

How about several? and once even had listed as " occasional ", but then all EIGHT pics had them with a cig in had..ALL

but now I would never *wink-wink* post a pic of me just "trying" to get you to look...

C-ya!
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 51 (view)
 
Lacking tip for my friend / server
Posted: 9/6/2009 7:53:11 PM
OP I want to know is there an automatic tip included in the bill??? lots...I mean LOTS of places are already including 15% and saw one that included 20%.. I have been to a resturant that displayed "It's improper to leave tips, our staff is paid well"

Jeezus...Just add to the tip as you feel need be..period. Especially sense the dinner tab was picked up.


Since I don't know about these things, I would have to ask you how much to leave.


I never do the precentage thing.. I tip at the rate of 7-10 dollars an hour I'm at the table and the service I get, as well as considering how busy resturant is.

In other words if I duck in and out for a 45 -60 min lunch that might be 50-60 dollars I might still leave 6 or 8 dollars. However, I'm at a chain resturant(good prices) shoot the breeze with a friend sitting at the booth for 2 hours and it was only a 25-30 dollar lunch, good chance I could throw a 20 as a tip.

Having friends/dates accuse me of being cheap or leaveing too big of tip.. I explain my "hourly" system..

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 59 (view)
 
They are showing online for hours & says it's not them doing it? It's automatic honey????
Posted: 9/2/2009 7:17:22 AM

This has absolutly NOTHING to do with staying logged on or whatnot.


It does have something to do with it... Purely because the computer may say you are ON when actually you are not.

I think it has to do with honesty of the person myself. People for the most part lie or don't lie...However, in a computer age, and LORD knows the insecurity/paranoid level of internet dating, one more hurdle for those that really care.
..
.....Hummmm the computer says he/she is on-line... but they say they are not...

Oh what a...LIAR...toss them back...
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 58 (view)
 
They are showing online for hours & says it's not them doing it? It's automatic honey????
Posted: 9/2/2009 7:09:48 AM
Okay.....


Again, having an open browser window is not the same as being logged in…


You are right that is correct... But my post was more "information"for the computer whizes..

Sometimes when I open the window I do have to sign back in,,but most..I will repete MOST times I do not even when I have been away for hours or over night..This is a fact... It also happens to a close friend of mine 10 mins up the road I've known for 20 years..


Pay particular attention to the entries that are marked either moderator or admin – btw… admin built the site so I would at the very least presume he knows what he’s talking about.


Agreed I would think that, but someone that has been here almost 4 years I have seen many many changes..and people having problems no one else has, and get the generic.."Oh it's a gletch in the system" answer.

By the way.. When In forums the the sob POF site will log me out quick.. I CAN NOT keep the forums log on..

Also I can log on to POF go to a member minimize. Then hit favs (sometimes it makes me log again sometimes not) AGAIN minimize..I can do this several times each minimize will keep the same page(that member) and again I can leave my computer for hours and DO NOT have to log in..

Now I can not do this with ebay and other sites... If I minimize and then hit favs,, The minimize will open full screen..

Personally I'm blessed mechanically and have never paid anyone in my life to fix anything I owned.. However, computers I do not understand, and I've played and played..

My computer is a media software computer..dual hard drives, and around 7 G's of media software...BUT...BUT.. that does not explain the samething happening to my friend...BTW she also has verizon and aol..Yes she pays for both..

Does that matter??????

One last thing... I live 2 mins from library... I pick my son up... He's logged on to POF and(yes was 17 saying he was 19) and I had been away from my computer for at least an hour... Sure enough I'm on his favs, and it says ON-LINE....

For the record...I have had plenty of plenty of times POF friends make comments (several in other countries) say... Jeeze Joe saw you on in middle of night..

I really don't care, but I'm here to tell ya it does display you are ON-LINE when you can be away, and also I can go to bed around midnight get up 6am, pull POF out of toolbar and do NOT need to sign in..more times then not..Yes I'd say guessing 25-35% of the time I will have to re-log...

Seems not to relog as much if when minimized...not positive.. Just seems if I bring full screen I'm okay, if I left with screen open , it makes me log in.. any thoughts???

Purely just curious...I did start a thread about this 2 years ago, but it ended up removed. BECAUSE........

Follow me.. I lived 45 min drive from a POF'er I dated for 3 months.. Running late one day, she cussed me out, telling me I was on playing in the forums...Well low and behold. Many times I could drive to her house, she would log on pof and again... it showed me On-line... her favs showed sometimes hours ago, and sometimes just mins ago...

If you think I sat here for 1/2 hour to type this.. you are wrong..Do I care if it shows me on...NO I can log-out..Is it my computer and or connection??? But what about Kim?.. and she had not opted for the ISP option to RE-SIGN if lost connection..(which) by the way I turned that back off a year ago, as it got on my nerves....

* and yes I give a rat's butt if OP wants to play spy/control freak/or self issues, the techanic-O end makes we want to know more
 4408JOSEPH
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 46 (view)
 
They are showing online for hours & says it's not them doing it? It's automatic honey????
Posted: 9/1/2009 7:25:54 PM

I'll take that bet.


Put me down for a Bennie, cause you'll lose..


They are showing online for hours & says it's not them doing it? It's automatic ..


Yep.. in my case...Several ways, but I can't explain it techanically..

First off I leave my computer on for days and weeks at a time.. Now then whenever I am on the computer(meaning at my desk) I always open my pof site...Kinda like pimping myself out... I never log out,, and my window will still open over night...12 hours later many times..

As for the auotmatic thingy..

With verizon/aol 9.1 you have an option that if the computer is turned on ( or like a line interuption..elec etc or just aol plain dropping off)...ALL...I repete ALL open windows(sites) automatically come back on...ebay/pof/ed.line/ etc..

Why pof does not log off I really don't know... The irony is... some....TIMES when I'm in the middle of typing in the forums it will log out...

Also POF will let you (at least through my computer) the site with a dozen windows to the same site... Well at least like 4 for 100% sure never tryed more then 3 or 4..

I know all this for a fact from playing around when a good friend of mine who works late shift use to say .."oh saw you was on at 2 am ...WTF... I went to bed midnight..

Then I was at her house 1/2 hour away..She was logged on on her lap-top...Damn...there it was I was on, and Current this was last summer..

I do surf, minimize windows, and have 1/2 dozen open all at the same time as listen to radio streamlined through australia played through house stero... Can I explain it in technic talk...NO...but any computer whiz that comes to this forum I'd be glad to answer any questions I can..

Gateway 817GM..Windows Vista update....both verizon commercial broadband provider and aol internet service ( I know extra 25/monthly, but I love aol) I can log on dail-up if I like..

Bottom line .... FACT... I leave from my computer hours even over night and still don't need to log on to POF ...Fact.... elctric flashes(lose connection) and all my open windows will automatically open back up...

Joe friday..."just the facts mame"
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
heres my story
Posted: 8/31/2009 8:27:59 PM

OMG...you're adorable.

I just want to dress you in Garanimals, comb your hair, pack your lunchbox, pinch your cheeks, and send you off to school.


That's funny, but then again I thought the same thing when I seen your profile..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
The infamous disappearing woman, or is it just something about me??
Posted: 8/31/2009 6:13:46 AM

All this - "too much too soon" - "too gushy" is crap.

OP - be yourself. Continue on and dont change a thing about yourself-
dont hold back, dont rein yourself in, dont do anything. Be yourself
because this is who you are.


Exactly peanut.
(you know u really r only 90 mins away..lol)

ANYHOWS,....She felt comfortable enough to show you where she parked, and obligated with a mouth full of tongue... I personally would expect at least a "second" date...

Who knows,really, maybe she didn't like your kissing... Did she grab your package? Maybe she got a sign there.. Trust me you'll never figuire out women..never!

I've had them disappear here at a rate that "new" ones might slip by..Why, because I cut right to the chase. No time for games, period.

Yep, just be who you are...

Some women love the affection and notice put on heavy ,others (as posted) get paranoid.

Funny how things 20 years (putting balloons on mailbox,rose on car outside work,card and/or flowers sent work) almost always got you a date... Now-a-days, you'd get labled a "stalker" and might get a call/visit from the police..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Deal-Breakers! How soon is too soon?
Posted: 8/22/2009 6:48:00 PM
Ah yes, the entertainment here is priceless..

The answer is pretty fricken simple...


The bottom line here is....I don't care whether you drink, smoke or even if you use drugs, as long as you have a firm handle on who you are, what you can offer and are genuine. I'm not here to moralize, nor judge.


OH! Really...


She wasn't even willing to try..........so close-minded.


Sooooo, because she doesn't want try you've "judged" her as "closed-minded"???


I'm a natural dominant, so why would a strap-on ever be included in sex between me and a woman?


Soooooo,not even willing to try???.... Tisk,Tisk..."so closed-minded"

Here is your simple answer OP...

If this is SUCH a deal-breaker, in such that you openly call someone on it "close-minded" cause they aren't interested????

Simple!!! List it in your profile, plain and simple

In the RW, as the topic of sex surfaces...make it clear....As you say.........


Don't waste my time or yours by lying about your intentions.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
May i ask what a guy conciders: games/players/drama
Posted: 8/21/2009 2:55:49 PM
Hummmm I thought these were a given for anyone, so I truly don't think I've ever put any of this in any of my profiles.. However to me they are pretty simply..Honesty and maturity...


I don't play games

Pretty much the opposite of honesty.. That includes evrything.. Just be honest..period. Hardly anthing with me is a deal breaker.. If you don't like a kind of food/music/shows/people/lifestyle/sport /whatever,just say.. and do NOT agree or go along if that's not how you feel, because you "think" it's what someone wants to hear,only to cause a headache later down the road.PLUS...Don't use choice as a power play for later activities...


If ur a player don't contact me?
Along the lines of above... But don't string along any action that you care not to do, just so you think you can get a trade off for your adgenda.. Which brings most players to this.....
"Agenda" If you are doing the dating thingy but your Agenda is different then your partners, but you don't say so...You are "playing"


Don't bring the drama.

To me this is basically the the childish BS with family,co-workers,or neighbors...We all have non-sense to deal with and want to vent(traffic,government,bills, etc)
but we do not need a conversation on a serious level about anything with family,co-workers,or neighbors that basically sounds like a problem 10 year old would whine about.This especially true with a situation that keeps reoccuring OR something from years ago.
Hope that helps, but thats just "MY" thoughts

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 90 (view)
 
~~ When to Tell Someone You Love Them ~~
Posted: 8/19/2009 9:28:14 PM
hummmmmmmmm...........

When uttering I love you’s in the throes of passion, it is beyond awkward to try to take back those three words when afterward one realizes it was the act and not the person that you loved.


Is that the same as when a gal declines going to church on sunday with ya, yet they seemed rather content on screaming for help from the holy one during the week ????
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Funniest things said on a profile:
Posted: 8/19/2009 8:01:31 PM

Moderator please add a barf emoticon!


Been done.-------------->

AKA 38
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Ladies - would appreciate a profile review :)
Posted: 8/19/2009 7:54:10 PM

I keep changing it every few months to no avail.


Try copy/paste your dad's profile....Didn't you say he gets a 15-20 replies from women in that age bracket every week ????
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 85 (view)
 
~~ When to Tell Someone You Love Them ~~
Posted: 8/19/2009 6:48:11 PM

When do you think is the right time to say I love you ?


When looking down a gun barrel held by your SO while you are 8 inches deep into the maid..

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 94 (view)
 
Worst Date. Ever.
Posted: 8/17/2009 7:52:45 PM
You're not the first or the last OP,, Read about it here all the time it seems..

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts8293757.aspx
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Squeaking by on $300,000 a year
Posted: 8/17/2009 2:44:15 PM

Does anyone else want to trade places with her?


Ummmm... basement that smells like sewage, a bytchie 10 y.o. cause she doesn't have the latest/greatest cell phone, and I have to have my penis removed????

Nope happy as I am

....and...Holy Shyte....35K property tax on a 2.5M house...Looks like her local government is NUTZ too.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Battle of the Sexes
Posted: 8/16/2009 10:21:51 AM
Any ideas as to why?


SURE, 2 main reasons.IMO,I'm sure there are others

#1) The power/money/control factor...You know "Golden Rule"...Those with the gold,rule?
#2) People have a hard time putting themselves in someones else's shoes.

That's why I always say..."You should walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you open your mouth..This way you have their shoes and are a mile away if you pizz them off so much they want to take a swing at ya!"


dunno....I see alot of women bashing women in these threads too


Yea, men on men too, but that's usually on the hotter topics like; posting kids pic,spanking,sleeping arrangments,when to let on computer,etc,etc,etc..

That will bring out the "Greater then thou" ones to hop up on their cross and rule the forum.."Their"one way to rule the situation..period!

Forget about the other 31,736,247 books in print about raising a child.

I always get a chuckle when it's ones posting that don't even have child/ren
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Between Slutty and GF Material ....
Posted: 8/15/2009 7:14:10 AM

So if we give too soon we are sluts and whores .... If we wait too long we are uptight prudes.


I don't believe this on it's own wording..Depends on the situation and how the women presents herself


I know this may very well vary from person to person but is there such a thing as a "happy medium" guys?


Not sure..I've had great relationships with sex on a first date, or months later..

With me the happy medium would be with honest conversations before sex.

A close female non-sexual friend of mine would call women sluts if they had sex right away...when pressured to find "'her" time frame (which btw over the years she had plenty of guys and we were great friends for years and years), her anser was 3 months... W.T.He11.. I told her if she was gonna label so strong as 3 days/dates/or weeks was a slut, but 3 months was respectfully she was nuts.. JMHO
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
is sex a way to a mans heart?
Posted: 8/15/2009 7:02:05 AM

is sex a way to a mans heart?


Only if it'sin between an evening of good conversation,a shared shower...
.....AND.....
A nicely cooked breakfast at her place


Would you as a guy say that if woman starts with sex with you it remains just sex.... and you keep looking ........ or would you say starting with sex OFTEN leads to heart felt connections with a woman on plenty of fish


All depends on the conversation and agreement BEFORE sex,and....this is a big AND..

The honesty factor from her...sex and emotions are 2 different issues, with me and MOST of the women I've ever been with..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Correct age to cover up
Posted: 8/12/2009 8:40:51 PM

Being naked has nothing to do with sex. Really it doesn't. Unless you MAKE it about sex.


Exactly

Being a single Dad solo left me leaving the bathroom door open, changing her in the "mens" room at 6-flags/beach/winter swim club..

Now at 7 I wish she would give ME some privacy..

No reading in the bathroom, for yours truly, and the shower glass gets slid back for my daughter to ramble on about the days adventure, or something she just saw on TV or the computer...

...and saying...."UH...helloooo I'm in the shower!!!!",doesn't cause her to miss a word of the yarn she's spinning...

As for her.... in or out of the shower is a parade bear-azz-naked through the house...

As above....the body is nothing to be ashamed of, but I would prefer bathroom, and after shower dressing I could get some alone time....

To answer the question though....By the time a child can really truly Bath/change/and dress themself... I'd say would be a good age to start.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Would you date Some one Who still lived with their Ex??
Posted: 8/9/2009 3:58:24 PM
Good Lawrd..
OP, are you a Ghost Writer??? This, and questions of guys dating big women, women with ungly coochies, and dating guys with big penises???

If not, turn the computer off and get your shyte together....

As for the topic. I actual had a local bite...

Nice profile, same interest, 20 mins away, Nice phone chats...

Then on the 3 convo tells me she's with X until farm is sold, but still wants to date, and I'm welcome to her house...

I said, "Ring me when the place is sold"

Haven't heard from her in over 2 years..

Again...put the man hunt on hold until YOUR house is clean!
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 55 (view)
 
2 strikes and you're out?
Posted: 8/8/2009 6:08:35 AM
Sorry for ya, but for others that read..

3 is the limit..

I thought I had a good fish through im's and calls, and low and behold first date night, a customer "adds-on" a few hours of work...I cancelled

Date 2... second thing..but she calls and hears equipment in background...I asked if we could move 7pm til 9pm...She says, No.... but you Better be there next time.|Talk to u tonight.

I was also on the end of a good one (we dated several months) that had to cancel twice in a row, because busy (2 jobs, and helps alot with family matters)

Some of us...especially solo parents have busy schedules(good reason for internet dating)...but 3 has got to be the rule..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
The Beer Summit
Posted: 7/31/2009 2:10:52 PM
I thought it was decided before the meeting it was Bush!!

That way if the Obama crowd didn't like the out come of the meeting they could STILL say.......

It's all Bush's fault!!
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 794 (view)
 
Racism........... Really.
Posted: 7/31/2009 4:05:03 AM
In Gates' interview he himself even admits to being uncooperative and difficult.

Acting in any other manner will usually escalate the incident, make one look suspicious and/or bring upon charges that otherwise would not be brought, including even being arrested as in the case of Gates.


EXACTLY,

and evident to anyone on an elementary level that has caught any of those "cop" shows that have been on tv the last 3 decades when you see a normal police situation escalated by some loud mouth idiot. Usually warned by the officers ahead of the arrest.

BUT, from a Professor with a lifetime of speeches/writtings/classes on racial relations can't muster this concept

PLEASE....

Gates calculated this move IMO.

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 793 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/31/2009 3:54:20 AM
"Up until this time there has been no report, even media report that I can find that Crowley made any statement/s to Gates in regards to race."..............





There doesn't have to be any mention of race for an act of racism to take place. The idea behind racial profiling prevention is to make sure that individuals aren't harrased or profiled for being a particular color.


This is NOT a case of racial profiling..

This was not a traffic stop, or a neighborhood crime sweep. |Not cleaning of drug infested area. Not security stops at airports,concerts,sporting events.

This was a dispatched call directed to an address period,|NOT a radom stop.

You can attempt to make this a racial profiling stop all you want, but it carries NO weight in this tragic attempt to make it such.

The "OH it was because of my race was the onlyreason I was stopped" cry does not apply.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 718 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/29/2009 11:10:41 PM

judicial immunity does not apply to police officers


Hummmm... Has in the 4th circuit many times over...

Sheppardizing is your friend,sir.


I have to admit your view point is a bit frighting; basically your saying it's okay for cops to break the law because they are cops.


Nope,the law(any branch/position held) is not ABOVE the law. that's not why Judicial Immunity is for... It's to protect government workers when doing their job.

"Malice" is the key test for when an officer is not protected by Judicial Immunity.

Might want to gander at (no pun intended) Black's Law Dictionary

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 713 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/29/2009 10:33:43 PM

Of course the rub is that, if Gates chooses to do so, he could pursue a lawsuit against the Officer and the Officer would likely be found civily lible for violating Gates Constitutiona rights.


That would pretty much be voided out by .....

Hummm....."judicial immunity"

Which pretty much filters it's way all the way down to the "beat cop"

Of course "GROSS Misconduct" is an over riding factor..

Gates already said....(His words)


I’ll be meeting with my legal team, and we will be deciding what kind of legal action I should take.


TEAM???? Wow, quoted just days later. He's already put together a "TEAM"

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 708 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/29/2009 9:11:50 PM

And that makes him racist how?


You left out the following sentence as Gates KNOWS what the Narrative in the officer's head is....


Now it’s clear that he had a narrative in his head: A black man was inside someone’s house, probably a white person’s house, and this black man had broken and entered, and this black man was me.


Skin color mentioned 4 times in one sentence...

Seems all Gates writtings,speeches,quotes,etc Very often need to make sure color is mentioned....very interesting at best

NOT ....Now it's clear he had a narrative in his head... "Now I am inside a house that is to be said to have been broken into andthis officer's thinking I'm the criminal"

Funny both police reports have Gates as calling the officer(Crowley) a racist many times..

Oh, and BOTH police wrote this in their police report statments where there were several police ,including Harvard Officers, and more then a 1/2 dozen witnesses...

Hummmmm. that's alot of people to(lie) all have to cover Crowley's store.

Note: Crowely did not transport Gates to the station..

Also in other articles it seems I believe I read Gates own words saying he accused the officer of being a racist..

He was not heard yelling as he was placed in the police car...

"Is this how you treat a law abiding Harvard Professor"?....was he???

Just thoughts........

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 705 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/29/2009 8:15:14 PM
Hymmmmm...



So far I cannot even find where Gates or his lawyer have said that Crowley made any statements regarding race or black while talking to Gates.


EXACTLY!!!!!




Yet according to two police reports and outside witness/es, Gates was making several statements in regarding race.


Ooops. Don't forget and out of GATES own mouth several days later in an interview..

TAKEN FROM AN INTERVIEW FROM THE "THE ROOT"




TR: Can you describe, in your own words, what went on in and outside of your home? When did you suspect you were the victim of racial profiling?


GATES:



...It looked like someone’s footprint was there. So it’s possible that the door had been jimmied, that someone had tried to get in while I was in China. But for whatever reason, the lock was damaged. My driver hit the door with his shoulder and the door popped open. But the lock was permanently disfigured. My home is owned by Harvard University, and so any kind of repair work that’s needed, Harvard will come and do it. I called this person, and she was, in fact, on the line while all of this was going on. I’m saying ‘You need to send someone to fix my lock.’ All of a sudden, there was a policeman on my porch. And I thought, ‘This is strange.’ So I went over to the front porch still holding the phone, and I said ‘Officer, can I help you?’ And he said, ‘Would you step outside onto the porch.’ And the way he said it, I knew he wasn’t canvassing for the police benevolent association. All the hairs stood up on the back of my neck, and I realized that I was in danger. And I said to him no, out of instinct. I said, ‘No, I will not.’

My lawyers later told me that that was a good move and had I walked out onto the porch he could have arrested me for breaking and entering. He said ‘I’m here to investigate a 911 call for breaking and entering into this house.’ And I said ‘That’s ridiculous because this happens to be my house. And I’m a Harvard professor.’ He says ‘Can you prove that you’re a Harvard professor?’ I said yes, I turned and closed the front door to the kitchen where I’d left my wallet, and I got out my Harvard ID and my Massachusetts driver’s license which includes my address and I handed them to him. And he’s sitting there looking at them.

Now it’s clear that he had a narrative in his head: A black man was inside someone’s house, probably a white person’s house, and this black man had broken and entered, and this black man was me....





Now it’s clear that he had a narrative in his head:


WOW!!! And so clairvoyant when it comes to mind reading...He KNEW what the officer was thinking...

There ya go...Gates OWN words...
http://www.theroot.com/views/skip-gates-speaks?page=0,0

Article Title:
Skip Gates Speaks
The Root's Editor-in-Chief Henry Louis Gates Jr. talks about his arrest and the outrage of racial profiling in America.


Profiling???...... Pffft!!!!

The officer was dispatched to investigate a possible daytime house breaking, NOT...I repeat NOT Randomly pick out suspects..PLEASE

As I orginally stated Gates took this moment for HIS agenda..

Also note that after reading alot of Gates own writtings the last few, I find it rather interesting that when telling of aHis Doctor, His Teacher, A Delivery Person and workers at his house, etc etc etc I see he has to write and mention the color

Sooooooooo????




Racism........... Really?


Starting to think Gates is.....





OH, And the Terry Case was to show the ones that think a 911 call is NOT Probable cause, that the Supreme Court ruled looking in to a store several times with another was enough to give a officer due cause to stop.
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 551 (view)
 
Racism........... Really?
Posted: 7/27/2009 10:16:56 PM
OM"Fricken"G...

Nope, you're still wrong. 911 calls are not probable cause - take it to court and see what happens.

Are you kidding??? No really....An Officer/official in a job preference duty receives a dispatch order to investigate a possible alleged crime and that's |NOT grounds for probable cause??? Okay no...I repeat no court would entertain that this is not probable cause. An appellate court would refuse review after reading brief , and a "writ of certiorari" to the Supreme court would go denied... The Supreme Court ruled probable cause like 50 years ago....UM....ever heard of Terry stop???? Terry vs Ohio??

It's not my job to educate you...Read the court decision yourself. Case cited as 392 U.S. 1
88 S. Ct. 1868; 20 L. Ed. 2d 889; 1968 U.S. LEXIS 1345; 44 Ohio Op. 2d 383


Anyhow's.. Gates is a flaming A-hole period...

Here read his own words....Several days later as he has had a chance tailor them to his liking...

http://www.theroot.com/views/skip-gates-speaks

In HIS own words he claims that the door was already broken and within minutes while on the phone to have it repaired

Hummmm??? My house(Harvard's) is broken into and instead of investigating if a crime has taken place, or an intruder is still present, or even call authorities to note the break-in???.... |I smell a rat in the wood pile already

an officer arrived, again in HIS words... Stating the officer said..... um...er... u guessed it

"‘I’m here to investigate a 911 call for breaking and entering into this house.’ "

Again...Hummmm ..... I've been home mins... house door broke, AND a uniformed police officer stating he is on a 911 call investigating a possible B&E shows up, and instead of step outside where it would be safer with a police officer then maybe inside my home where an intruder could still be????, no I refuse to compile with officer's order's????and start a confrontation with the law," I WANT YOUR BADGE #, I WANT TO FILE A COMPLAINT..Who in his own words stated was here to investigate a B&E and Gates stated the door was broken....

Again I smell a rat....Oh, Did I say Gates was a flaming A-hole????,

Thank you Henry Louis Gates Jr for setting the black man back 144 years... Just wondering how much he paid the Dean .....Oh???.Honorary Degree I'm sure..

Yes the problem all escalated when Gates refused to cooperate with police ..PERIOD... Forget the facts he is suppose to be a scholar, forget the facts he has taught and written on race issues...

Stick with the facts...

He stated the door was broke, and within mins found an officer at his door investigating same...

Again according to Gates own words.......He(Gates) was the first...repeat the first to bring a word of color into the conversation

Yes, Gates saw an opportunity to parade his agenda...and did just that...

Again what a fricken A-HOLE...

Yes if he had a leg or cane to stand on, the Civil rights media whores would be alllllllll over it.

BTW... If it wasn't enough to actually hear the 911 and dispatch. I was great to read the the 4 pages of GATES own words..

I dare anyone to read the link of Gate's OWN word's and come to any other conclusion but he is a flaming a-hole....I add flaming, because under the circumstances a normal person with the letters GED behind their name would have acted more civil, but to be A professor at Harvard?????

Again a calculated move, and I'll close that I don't judge any other person that walks the face of this earth on Gates actions...


 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 350 (view)
 
rude emails that spoil your POF experience
Posted: 6/21/2009 7:13:19 AM
Naw just "ohmakemelaugh"

Enjoying my morning and one of those screw-off profiles, and the ever your profile is great like to talk email, and second reply was hate mail,.........

and I'm an azz- being blocked...


Oh OH! soSO priceless here, as I sated last month...



 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
How young to use the internet
Posted: 6/15/2009 7:12:24 AM
Thanks Jax...REALLY THANKS

I am now very disappointed at aol...I actually was swayed to paying the extra 25 a month for aoltv/movies and more so for the Parental Controls as my net service is with another provider at 80 a month and could have keep the aol toolbar/and screen for free.

Knowing others screen names and passwords are the PARENTS job... BUT

Yesterday with only linking within 5 mins... I managed to open IE,,and YES it allowed me ANYWHERE on the net... I sent an email to aol, I will post there response when they answer..

Now last night I played on her SN for over 1/2 hour and could not (still before aol email) link anywhere with IE.. Nor could I do a proxy serch.which until last night did not even know what a proxy(internet was)

A search of "Removing Parental block"....or....." Removing company internet blocks" takes you to more then enough links on how to do it...so sad.

My concern was never what she was doing or talking to...We are clear on that... My main concern was adult material, and the fake links..

"Fake Links"= Where a keystroke one letter over to misspell barbie,disney,webkidz, etc....is a PORN site.

Not to turn this into a safety internet topic, but I think I speak for a lot of parents that woulds more then welcome any information and help into this matter posted here.





150 minutes a day? What in the world would a 7-year-old need to be doing online for 2-1/2 hours a day?


Tat is for the total time within every 24 hour day...NOT one setting.

OUR computer is used as a tv and is hooked to home stero(I watch news from around the world and TV in Australia)... In other words. My daughter can go to the 10's of thousands of TV shows from the 50's, thru 90's and pull up ANY episode and watch..

Also remember she is only 7.. That 5-10 min email we write to grandmom or aunt, takes her 1/2 hour or more..

There are a gillzillion games...

So while 2 1/2 hours might seem like a lot at one sittings... She Does not go on play station, no hand held games, and TV she watches through aoltv is not viewable through dish.

note Aoltv and the 1,000's of movies at aol is shorter on HER screen name..

I'm guessing language and violence made aol block them... She likes watching the 60's sitcoms..

Hope that clears up the 2 1/2 hours(I actually was gonna start a 4, but then she picks up a couple hours more watching tv...remember.....it's summer now/no school).. I strongly doubt many 7 year olds spend less time in front of a screen when adding the factor for its also used for games and tv...

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
good sites?
Posted: 6/15/2009 6:40:23 AM
Hey Peanut,

OMG there are frickin gillzillions..., before I start naming,
............Kaboose, webkidz,nick jr,word family,caryola, etc etc etc

Try this link ...only one you'll need for a looooooong time..lol

http://www.harf.lib.md.us/

It is my county public library.. It's the HOMPAGE and right side is a link"KIDS ZONE"

You will never get to all the links in a lifetime.. ...and....

AND....

They have killer filters with there own (server/county goverment?) that is updated and check every 12 hours.

I have been linking KIDS ZONE through my screen name and turning my daughter loose there for last couple years.

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
What do I do with a hot lady with a smelly pussi?
Posted: 6/14/2009 7:57:41 PM
Tell her you discovered recently by your doctor that you are allergic to her bread of cat.. Ask her to consider giving it to a good home and tell her you get her a puppy for her B-day.

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 229 (view)
 
Single mother out to prove the world wrong... is that wrong?
Posted: 6/14/2009 9:30:19 AM
If you know anything about paedophiles etc.,


Well....as I stated I've worked with foster kids(actually most of 16 years my life)...EVERY single one over the age of months have been abused, and over 6 or 7 sexually. Yes nation stats averaged out have around 82% are family..


I wouldn't be leaving my daughter with a 18yr-old guy, brother or not.
Really??, AGAIN, tells me a lot about your family. Living in a very rural low divorce rate, high # family children... children boys, and girls in their teens changed diapers,made dinner, homework,sitting, etc for younger children in neighborhood. Often siblings......
.and my zip code....21161...has only ONE, sometimes 2 registered sex offenders ..

Also might want to check stats on abuse by women.. Actually higher then males. FACT period.

I'm gonna have to trust the judgements of the adults living in the house and area as to the brother. The comment made after all of the others just seems to be another 'hot' fire poker in the"eye" of the OP..........and.....well....
after 6 postings of the combined negativity as in


Rather than spending every evening partying with friends, maybe you should spend that time doing your school work, cleaning up toys and stuff, getting lunch and what not ready for the next day.. Why should your father and brother have to look after your child all the time for you while you party..

and

I think its time you let some of your partying days go and spend a little more time being a mother.

and

YOUR weird and your profile pictures confirm it

and

GROW UP!!... if not for your sake.. Do it for your child..

and

BUT, its time to let go of the childishness and start growing up for your childs sake..

and

It annoys the hell out of me that people like you are even allowed to have children..

and

When you get over the "its all about me kick".. Then you might be able to start being a parent.. IT IS NO LONGER ALL ABOUT YOU!!... ITS NOW ALL ABOUT YOUR CHILD!!

and
on and on and on, with the almighty

Well.. To me it looks like just another attention seeking thread..


Anger much guy????.Bitter????. What an esteem builder you are!! As a Man who has worked around youth in the rec, church youth,scouts,raised 2 step sons, taught pre-GED, many teens driving, and enjoys working with children.... I question your parental skills, and at least if nothing else(parental advice giving to a very very YOUNG mother...)

.Maybe take your own advice 2 post ago


Time to move on..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
How young to use the internet
Posted: 6/14/2009 8:32:18 AM
You can get around AOL blocking very easily and I am sure a 10 year old can do that without issue.


Really??? Seems only way is with "MY" password(she'll never get)...weather I am there when the block happens(her screen name open), or when SHE emails me a request...

Tell me more,please

I was amazed I had to unblock Icarly and the disney channel.Also am amazed at my email when I read the sites that are blocked(which is a click link right to the site) they seem almost on a 1st grade level..I was guessing that the site itself had been breached in the past and maybe that was the block factor.

She can't use ANY search engine (Internet Explorer is blocked),but the aol kids ( which actually kinda sux ) I thought I'd keep the settings set pretty tight for the summer...

I do have "computer cop" software, but opted out not to install it.. As aol seems already too tight for my own interest for her. CC even has keystroke memory for spying.

Thanks for all the info though for everyone.

Joe

side note..When my daughter was 3,on my lap, and I was a newbie to the net, I open a link for free chuck e chesse tokens only to have a screen full of checker board porn pixs. I spent the next 1/2 day learning and blocking that non-sence..(which basically just makes you click one more "OK" button on ADULT settings un restricted.That experience was the biggest eye-opener/learner as a parent. And have been a net police kinda guy since then..
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
How young to use the internet
Posted: 6/14/2009 7:33:43 AM
At 7 I finally turned my daughter completely free to use the internet on her own..

In kindergarden we had to sign parental form to allow them to use the computer at school. Same in 1st and 2nd.(each year most likely)

Well, for the last 2 years my daughter has been going on, only after I log onto a site, or open an email page to write a letter or school work.

Now this summer she has been grabbing my screen name (open) to do searches(while I've been right there)..BUT......security settings only stop stuff coming in and an "OK" box to agree for adult material.

SOOOOOOOOO...last week I spent the hour to set up parent controls, blocks, 150 min daily limit, and full DAILY parent report to my email ...and turned her 100% on her own to come and go as she likes...

FYI... I have her settings through AOL set at the up to 15 yo range...As she already reads years advanced, can read any newspaper, and has been doing school work/games on the computer for about a year anyway.

However... even at 15 yo setting...I have to give permission for Icarly and disney channel...I found that strange... I understand google,ASK, and such search engines have been blocked..

Soooo in a computer age, where my daughter sees her dad order parts, equipment repair, shop,get cooking recipes,watch news around the world, etc... A world were my daughter has been on the home computer and library/school computers for well over a year. A world where a computer with a 36 inch monitor is ON almost all day everyday, right there in the dinning room, is it not right for her to be able to use it, just like a TV/DVD/Microwave, etc

Thoughts?

Again the parental controls are totally limitless through AOL (You can actually set a block for 12 and under users, 10 min daily limit, no email, no IM's etc etc etc), as well as daily reports broken into a dozen catagories are sent to my email daily.

Joe
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 226 (view)
 
Single mother out to prove the world wrong... is that wrong?
Posted: 6/14/2009 6:00:26 AM
Wow FFS, A lot of you posters need to pull the nails from your hands and feet and hop down from your cross.

Gracii I have THREE sound pieces of advice, but first..........................

As a single(full custody) parent of a 7 y.o. daughter, a man that has raised two step-sons from toddlers (now 18-20),Was active with Foster/Group Home teens (almost all girls) for several years I am truly sadden by the finger pointing,brow beating,rush judging, and all the accusations ...Especially from the phish old enough to Op's parent. and......AND to suggest that the 18 y.o. brother shows signs of being a child abuser from just a few sentences about HIS life......


Hmm..18 yr-old male, doesn't go out much, always happy to look after young child.. I see caution signs there.. I would be a little wary of intentions for that behaviour..Hey, he might just like kids, but, you know what they say.. Its always someone close to the victim and often a family member..


sick,sick,SICK...or......tells of the home you were raised in...

Being on these boards for nearly 3 years and my own background... I seen from the original post that this was

A) Fake post..seeking attention/troll/or ghost writer
B) Total BS...........OR
C) A child parent tainting/slanting her story in her OWN eyes...(Like when Grandpa tells stories of walking to school 5 miles in the snow bare foot...up hill ,"BOTH" ways...lol

As I followed from day one. I've opted for C)

Op's opening post NEVER gave much detail (time frames)... and I dare say I don't see any lies from post POST.

School a few hours a day, work a few hours a day, socializing a few hours a day, and parenting the rest..Its impossible arithmetic to be FULL time EVERYTHING at ANY age

Now Gracie is just a child(You are not REALLY legally an ADULT til 21 in the states), and I truly believe the |REAL world hasn't bitten her in the azz yet, But she writes level headed(never fed into the trolling) , seem to have a GREAT family support system, goal motivated,and taking steps in the right direct..It is for this, I take the time to give some good advice...

OP pay attention...................

FIRST..........Let ALL your actions be governed by a YES answer to TWO questions...|Either is a No , then don't do it.

1) Is this in the best interest of my child?
2) Is it healthy for me?

SECOND...... Learn to Multi-task...period!!

When studying...read your books out loud to your child..She'll learn copied sounds and speech flow..(Years I read from my school books,sports sections and shop manuals to my children, and ALL are well advanced in reading levels)

Take your child EVERY single place you can.. The more time both are together.. the more natural bonding,and the change of environment stimulates the child's mind.

Even when learning... I "highly" suggest every elective college class, be one of "Sociology" or "Family" These classes will educate you of your situation as well as others out-side of your own zip code,

THIRD..............

Change you social activities to "US" time a much as possible ..and no longer...Gracii's "get away time"

.|Gracii, you are no longer a care free teen, you brought a child into the world Start searching single and teen parent activities .. The churches/rec centers/ libraries/ youth groups are LOADED with them.. The net and 'community' section of the paper is a great place to look. This will be a GREAT place to net work with new friends. Ones your age and situation, as well as ones my age.. and the ones my age seeing a teen/young mom trying hard to do the right thing are the ones in power to later be a baby-sitter/ teacher-mentor/future boss or land-lord, etc etc etc

As a successful 43 yo man that has over come more stero-types then you have faced yet in life.........

I Live these 3 rules EVERY SINGLE DAY of my life.

Hope you truly heed my advice, You have MANY blessings in your life right now. I hope you are smart enough to see them, appreciate them, and take advantage of them.

In closing..True success comes with a price...and being a GREAT parent is the hardest job in the world.. It also is the most rewarding .............and comes with a price.

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Qualities we seek in a partner
Posted: 6/10/2009 7:12:17 PM
BOTH

When dating ,Mom material is more important then some of "my"needs..

For example:

A) If she is calm and understanding when your 4 y.o. knocks the milk over at the table, those extra dimples in her azz that show up on the over bed mirror aren't really that bad.

B) If she suggest or thinks it's cool to have dinner at Chuck E Cheese, I over look the fact that she thinks a Crunchberry is a fruit Pirates hoarded on ships to eat to prevent scurvy

C) If she over looks the fact I totally forgot PTA night happened to be the same night I promised "our" night out last month , and don't mind me rescheduling ......I have no problem over looking "BJ" night she's really not in the mood.

AND......

D) She really does enjoy outings to to 6-flags, farm fair, Disney on Ice, and carnivals......Cold eggs and bacon are fine, because she spent so much time looking for a recipe for toast when making breakfast in bed on Father's Day...

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 345 (view)
 
rude emails that spoil your POF experience
Posted: 5/13/2009 10:30:17 PM
Yea, haven't had one in a good while (been 2 busy 2 write in the forums/cuz that gets them...lol)


...spoil my experience???


Hell no!!! make my day..Like todays nasty one...a time zone away

A quick look at her profile....

The forever...I'm smart/funny/good looking/great life/wonderful kids/great catch/sweet/great friends/...blah-blah-blah...

Oh....... and ...phuckin single ...pimping herself on a free dating site....

TRJ
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 32 (view)
 
ex pats in Australia
Posted: 2/17/2009 6:53:26 AM
Jeezeeeee,Mate......


Its either that or be married to a hairy biker dude and claim to be a happily wed gay couple for visa purposes.


Ah yes the old subclass 310 and 110 permanent visa's

Let me tell ya straight forward mate. As I am very enchanted with OZ and have a strong devotion to stay, as a 2 month stay is in the works and feel more that the move being more then infatuation with your island..

I have to tell ya, .................the romantic affection of staying has the line drawn at your suggestion.

Even if I pitted at every grog shop on the way out back with a poofter to share a humpie is that gonna happen with this YANK... That's a NO GO



We're getting pretty liberal here with unions of couples with the same equipment, but this Yank only plays on one team... And if you aint got a tassie map, then it aint happening...

I guess the Chesapeake Blue crab is not only stateside famous #1 , but world known now, huh?


As to the OP, Come-on .....Where is your Spirit of adventure????


 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 28 (view)
 
ex pats in Australia
Posted: 2/15/2009 4:10:34 PM
Since everything is relative to those describing. I ask for some numbers



......or have a boatload of money for a business.


Could I get some input on what s 'boatload" would be??? possible east coast OZ


Just from the net I can see a BIG difference in real estate from Sydney to 4 hours north up the coast.. In USA you can take the EXACT same house built in Deep Creek Md at 1.2 million, and move one county (1 hour drive)into WV in Kingswood,,, and the EXACT same house was almost 1/2...a year apart bought by SAME contator...

So can I assume the same is true in Australia..

I am interested in the Aussies take on....boatlaod of money..

250,000?? 400,000?.....650,000? Auatralian Dollars.

Personally I can't imagaine moveing at my age with less then 400-650K , and at exchange right NOW thats 620-1 mill Aussie Dollars..

Is that a big enough boat for Mid coast NSW?? Do tell

Hate to think I'd fall in love with OZ and have to marry a fat ugly lass with a drinking habit, and 3 or 4 anklebiters just to stay...

For the Record I already had a job offer by a USA based business that had corprate office in Australia
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
ex pats in Australia
Posted: 2/10/2009 9:19:33 PM
Well this yank is headed to Taree within the next 12 months and hoping the 6-10 week stay will be a return trip for life.

I have been studying Oz for almost 3 years...

Have penpals in Sid and Brissy, but OP Taree looks sweet, and a new friend has offered to be host guest. I check my weather link and paper for Taree everyday.

Thanks for the business owner thought Chiny®™© I actually found a small shop for sale at 180,000K... which at the monent is only 110K Yank dollars... Since I have had my own business since 11 that seems the way to go. Like to bring to containers of equipment.... but lets just visit first... Not sure OP's motive of moving..

I have close to 750K or more in assests and 4yr college, and several cetifications as well as the well to carry a 100 kilos dawn o dusk....lol. Just looking for a place to live and work hard and not have the government tax 70-75% of my earnings...

For the Aussies here... a sole business owner is taxed nearly 42% on GROSS income, and another 10-15% on business, as well as I am taxed nealry 3,000 a year just to own a home...There's roo piss in your amber....lol

Here OP ....try the tax link... you know your bracket... this is OZ.. Don't worry about fig it out to the penny... The Bloody Aus don't much care they got rid of the pennies years ago.....it's true...lol

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/12333.htm&mnu=5053&mfp=001



Now ,never being in OZ, I'm sure it's like the states.... all the glamor is not all gold here, and I'm sure down-under.

I will fess up.. I had a exchange student live here when I was a teen in school for a year from Sydney, and have been in love with OZ since.

I will say my sid friends, and a lass in Brissy think that Taree will take me a back... But I'm a country boy from a distant postal code anyway...

In closing OP... go on line... I have over 500 links... Listen to OZ radio through the net. Read the Aussie papers on-line... I do everyday... Your a teacher(?) I also taught for 2 years... Teach yourself... Everything you need to know is at the keyboard,except the attitude of the Aussie populace. Which all I have been blessed with have been great.

You have a block. contact me if you like...

G'Day all

 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Crock Pot Rotisserie Chicken
Posted: 1/30/2009 6:45:15 AM
Yes I'm anal about alumunun, for health reasons.

If you are like me and have a gillizillion kitchen do-dads, use a glass lid from something, glass pie dish,bowl,candy/nut dish..etc. If not be in the look out at yard sales and such.

Ive been doing for years, but never crossed my mind to do veggies.


...and soak up all the fat from the chicken,...


Really.. ???

But also with chicken (and being pumped for weight) most of the juice is water.

Lastly, You can always plug your crock into a timer, make sure it's a h/duty one that can handle the amps.

Joe
 4408joseph
Joined: 1/10/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Trick to dehydrating bananas & fruit
Posted: 1/30/2009 6:21:35 AM
Wow thanks for info... I'm gonna look for the "fruit fresh"... the lemon juice scares at first.

Bananas are the ONLY fruit I ever tried.Not having luck, stuck to lots of veggies... as much as can with tomatoes... The tomatoe chips taste like candy and the kids eat them as fast as I can make them .

I live next to miles and miles of orchards, and the fruit is soooooooooooooooo cheap if you go get your own...Some like couple bucks a bushel.
 
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