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Thread: I have zero experience with older men.
sapphireeyes
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/22/2009 8:30:45 PM
13 Karat, I agree with you that most of the men over 45 have so much more going for them than the younger men...but I think for some of them once they go thru the bitterness of a divorce they just dont want to try a relationship...they dont want to be alone but they dont want to find that *girl again...so when they see someone they could really really like they start finding flaws with themselves or with her.
This is where all the anger and bitterness comes from...no one wants to risk being hurt or for women...being used...but no one wants to be alone...we are all here for a reason.
I also think as hard as woman are on themselves about their looks, men are harder on themselves...they dont realize that they grow into their face...that the years of walking around in their body makes them have a certain swagger, that their education combined with real life experience gives them a certain KNOW. Most are content to be a father and after years of living alone then they dont want to risk another relationship where things spin out of control...
sapphireeyes
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Sex is sex and we no longer need to give or receive affection? What has happened to our age group?
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11/22/2009 7:26:12 PM
I see a big difference in my two kids, from the time my younger child was born ...someone was holding her..nonstop...every day when we got to the daycare she was the one who was always in someone's arms....and this continued thru most of her school years ...she was teacher's pet, she was the youngest in her class, she was left handed...I heard all the excuses for why they singled her out to make her feel special, but before she would leave she would hug her teacher every day, but the fact remains..she is just dang huggy...
When my second husband's grandmother died and we went to the funeral, at one point she plopped down in the grandfathers lap and kissed him on the cheek and said...I've never had a grandfather before...I think Im going to like this! The smile on his face was priceless.
My older child is very standoffish...it is hard for them to hug me, I can see the desire in their eyes but they feel awkward about it.
I really think that some people are wired differently and some are just that way...my youngest at 19 will still come crawl in bed with me just to snuggle up and talk..she has to have physical contact and most of her friends are the same way and are always hugging me when they see me.
So taking how you grow up, how you are wired and then add years of bad relationships and you can understand why to some affection is more important than to others...some just need to have someone hug them daily to get them use to being hugged. Some would resent every moment of it...ya got to find the type that makes you happy.
Spanish culture is more touchy feely to...so add in culture differences
sapphireeyes
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Sex is sex and we no longer need to give or receive affection? What has happened to our age group?
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11/22/2009 2:53:25 PM
I should have added that after my husband and I were together, he was always literally in touch with me...my kids thought it was funny but he would move things so that his foot could always touch mine, or he was holding my hand or leaning into me...I really miss that type of connection that you have to drop all your defenses and be completely open.
I have had several guys who say they never loved anyone like they did their first love...they actually guard against loving like that...tis sad to spend the rest of your life protecting against being hurt but in the end hurting yourself and anyone else who ends up involved with you. I guess that is why that song..."The first cut is the deepest" ends with "Ill try to love again"
sapphireeyes
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Sex is sex and we no longer need to give or receive affection? What has happened to our age group?
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11/22/2009 1:51:28 PM
My second husband told me I used sex and humor to pull people in and then as a wall to keep them out and that if i wanted to have a relationship with him, i had to be me or he was walking away...lmao i straighted my ass up right away!
sapphireeyes
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Finances and expenses - responsibility and commitment
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11/22/2009 12:12:32 PM
Sorry for the confusion, you said in the op that the 90k person had one child in college and 2 teenagers (13 and 16). Then you said
If you were the higher income earner in this scenario, would you tell your aging parent and university student, neither of who lives with you, that you had to reduce the support for them in order to 'bring-up' the standard of the lower income family?
So the 90k person has 3 kids and a parent which would mean 5 different people living on the 90k and the only person mention with the 50k person was the one child in college on a scholarship which is 2 people living on 50K.
Plus as Woody adds, 140k is now available and the cost of renting one home is gone, even if there is a mortgage you can rent the home for more than the mortgage amount which means there is still going to be more money.
Just cause someone lives in a nicer neighborhood, has better toys for their kids, and as you put it proportionately better cars does not mean the person is better off financially..they just appear to be. What is the debt ratio for the 90k person? A better home is a higher mortgage, porportionately better cars are higher payments and I am not going into the way it was implied that the scholarship student should take the bus back to his old neighborhood school while the teenagers drive porportionately better cars to their high school.
See from the beginning I didnt think this was a valid concern, cause two people who love each other love each other and will work it out if they are both mentally healthy and are holding true to the love in their heart. If one of the persons has concerns then they arent ready for THIS relationship and should free the other person to go find someone who isnt going to see Hearts and Dollar Signs together.
The whole thing is presented in an unfair way with titled emphasize on the fact that the person with more is expected to GIVE up something to have someone he loves in his life or that the family with less should expect a lower standard of living than the rest of the family cause well they arent really family.
sapphireeyes
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Finances and expenses - responsibility and commitment
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11/22/2009 8:42:46 AM
I think if two people are mentally healthy and in love they will work it out, two people who arent wont. If in two years you don't know what you want from the other person it is time to move on anyway.
Kids can be issues to any situation but setting things up based on who your parent and how much do they make could never be right. We are people not finance sheets. Our value should never be based on earning power.
As an example, a friend of mine was hurt and got large settlement, he was married for 9 years but hated his stepson with a passion. He had his own son and saw him regularity but the stepson lived with them. His son went to college but when it was time for the stepson he refused to allow any of his money to go toward this child's education. His wife took 25k and left him. Her son got the education that was the same as what his son got...to this day he doesnt see what he did as wrong...he felt his money shouldnt have been used to put someone he hated thru school...He felt the kid would flunk out. The stepson graduated with honors last spring. The marriage was completely destroyed. The home hasnt sold and she is still living in it but the judge in the divorce sided with the wife based on the fact that it didnt matter who's money it was in the marriage all the kids were equal.
It is hard with college age kids to juggle being a parent to someone who is basically an adult, but as a parent if you child is to be put in a "better" environment but made to feel as a lesser person...why would you want to do that?
BTW ...two people living on 50k should have a higher standard of living than the one who has 3 kids and supporting an older parent...do the math.
sapphireeyes
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Shake my tree
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11/22/2009 7:45:17 AM
lmao so you are saying I need to be a better b1tch ...that actually makes sense, one of the things he said he liked was that I never b1tched about anything.
sapphireeyes
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Very long hair on a woman is very femine and sexy, but few women have long hair
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11/22/2009 12:34:05 AM
Im just glad my grew back after chemo...the longer it gets the more happy I am...I heard when I was younger that older women shouldnt have long hair...I think it was one of those unwritten rules like dont wear white shoes after labor day or before memorial day....some people prefer to keep up with this type of thing in their lives, others like to keep up with the times...
I think people should do what makes them happy, a happy date is way better than a sad good looking one.
sapphireeyes
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Shake my tree
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11/21/2009 9:36:05 PM
Thank for the great feedback.
<div class="quote"> Men come on strong because they are sexually attracted to you. They want you to know how serious they are about you, and how seriously they want to be with you. I'm sure success stories abound when this occurs and then both parties maintain that strong attraction to each other.
IMO he disappears because he has interpreted something that you have said or have done as a turn off, and he has now turned off all interest. It will remain that way until the end of the earth.
Moooocow I read your answer with great interest and i can see what you are saying but one of the guys in particular came on very strong and then disappeared. We talked for about 8 weeks (he told me at the start that his job didnt allow him to keep in constant communication) then he disappeared for 8 weeks.
Ok he had given me fair warning, but this pattern continued with him on and off and frankly I am the one who grew disinterested and told him that after a year of him using his job as an excuse I felt that it was exactly that and he said ok ill meet you next weekend...well we talked on Monday and I never heard back from him.
3 months later he messages me and tells me it is my fault that I never called him. He was right I hadnt cause he had told me he would call me on Wednesday to let me know his schedule and the plans he was making.
So at this point I thought lets see where all this plays out...again he starts with I want to met you and I have time off in two weeks, we talk for 10 days and he again says ok next weekend im off Im going to drive there and ill tell you more on Tuesday...he never called but this time I called him and left him a voice mail....again he disappeared for 3 months and the next message I got was him on yahoo saying he was in Knoxville lets meet...I never replied cause I was out of town and frankly I figured that meeting would resolve nothing he had disrespected me twice before and would continue to do so...however he is still sending me messages and i never reply to them..it is more of annoyning than anything ...i cant block him cause he switches names, so I was wondering why a person would be this nuts for the lack of a better word.
I feel it is ego to see if the girl is still interested but they know they dont really want anything but what a waste of effort.
It also interest me that some of you met the person and are happy for doing so but realize the limits there...that is something i hadnt thought of doing I dont like that type of emotional setup.
sapphireeyes
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Shake my tree
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11/21/2009 4:16:04 PM
I met someone back in 07, we dated for a bit and then after asking me to be exclusive I found out he had slept with someone else. Since then every few months or so he contacts me. We did speak once at a meet and greet and he said at the time he wasnt ready to be so serious cause he had just gotten out of a bad marriage and only been divorced for 3 years but that he was ready for a relationship now. A friend said he is just shaking your tree to see if there is still any interest.
I have others who contact, chat a bit, arrange to met and then disappear and then come rolling back a few months later...normally I just assume they are just bored or lonely and trying to connect to anyone even if they know that it isnt going to work out.
My thought process is that we aint in high school anymore...this is the type of thing that guys did back when i was in my 20's. Its part of the come on strong and then back off and see if she will come after me. I almost always failed that test cause I figured if a guy liked me..he liked me and since I wasnt playing a game with him why would he be playing one with me? One guy told me I was the only woman that didnt work on but I find it hard to believe something like that could be successful.
It is easy to just say "click next", block or whatever but the number of men who seem to do this type of interaction where they come on so strong and then back off and then reappear makes me think Im missing a bigger picture. What exactly is the point of it?
I also have had men talk about women doing this same type of thing.
So have you ever had someone AT THIS AGE where we should be mature and acting like adults do this or have you ever done something like this and if so, why? What exactly is the point of contacting someone it didnt work out with the first time around?
I guess I am asking if there is any success stories from this type of thing or is it just someone being a jerk?
sapphireeyes
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Shaving or trimming your privates at our age?
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11/21/2009 3:40:23 PM
You're naive :P
Age has to do with the fact that when we were younger most women/men didnt shave but the porn industry made it popular and so most younger people do shave so in an attempt to appear younger or retain their youth some older people are doing it ...some of us have been shaving for years...it is simply a preferance.
sapphireeyes
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Finances and expenses - responsibility and commitment
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11/21/2009 3:36:41 PM
we were advised let love take over and don't be so materalistic!!! "
Have at that theory. Then when it blows up in your face, please return to datingland wiser for the experience.
Only reason it wont work is love of money...if two individuals want to work things out they will..when one individual feels based on their past experiences (ie they suppported one spouse and dont want to support another one) or the current situation..they feel that the person with the lesser money is just after their money..then it IS NOT a healthy normal sane relationship...it is two people who are trying to compensate for lacks in their lifes and using others to do it.
I cant imagine the thought process of living under one roof but not considering it a family unit..why bother? Seriously what values are being taught to the children about love? Love is equal unless money comes into the picture and then whoever has the most wins? Or better still that it is ok to sleep together, have your kids in the same house but you arent a family? I have never understood that concept...but i will add this...if the person with the lower income was to win the lottery I bet the other person would expect them at that point to provide for higher income kids the same as the lower income person is doing for their own at that point...
It is a mindset that people need to get out of...money has nothing to do with love...it cripples it if nothing else...love is about trust and building something beautiful together.
If Cinderella happened today just imagine how all the advise given to the Prince would go, the good things about Cinderella are completely overlooked based on her financial status and then people complain they cant find love...they simply dont deserve it if they are going to put financial interest over it.
sapphireeyes
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/21/2009 9:15:44 AM
One other sensitive issue I'd like to bring into the equation, is his self esteem. Men at this age know about older women preferring younger guys. It's also a concern that a woman he might fall in love with may eventually leave for better sex with a younger man (hence, the reason you do not talk about your younger partners from the past)
Sigh, depends on if it is out and out sex or making love. Yes I guess a younger man can bang you longer but ONLY in men's mind is that a quality thing...
I dont think older men realize that THEY ARE MUCH BETTER in bed than younger guys...a younger guy is like a runaway train who knows HIS mechanics...an older man is like an elite train that makes all the right stops without worrying about every depot on the way, older men know the ladies mechanics...the tempo, momentum is constantly upward and when the final destination is reach it is out of the world.
sapphireeyes
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/21/2009 8:53:08 AM
The op was asking about how women feel about a younger guy in a relationship.
I think any man I date I should feel proud of...he deserves that much or I shouldnt be on a date with him.
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11/21/2009 8:34:40 AM
If two people are in *love and want to be together then both will compromise to allow that to happen. The viewpoint of this OP is slanted and one-sided.
I sorta read it as the owner of the 4 bedroom house wants to stay there and the lower income person's child should be happy he is getting a better place to live vs ****ing about having to share a space with 2 younger teenagers. I wonder what their view of things really is.
Your families may never love each other, they dont have to as long as the PARENTS are being good parents.
But there is not enough $ for them to bring the other person's family to that same comfort level even if they wanted to.
This line is the real issue...together there is ONE family...so if the family that has more has to do with less to have the other persons as members of their family...then they live with less, but to ask the other person to move into your expensive home and ask them to be considered as *OTHER while maintaining your same level for your kids is pretty screwed up logic. Maybe you could redo the area over the gargage and let the OTHER family members use it as slave quarters while you are at it.
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/20/2009 10:23:56 PM
I don't actively seek out younger men -- they just happen to find me.
Its funny two years ago I only looked for an man my age or a few years older, I thought ok one hubby was 12 older and one was 12 younger so maybe someone my age would be right...after meeting several my age I realized that some of them emotionally and mentally were still years older or still very immature. I had alot of younger men(within 5 to 10 years of my age write to me and I totally blew them off as being *to young) then some sent me *nonthreating messages and we started talking...not about US or trying to hook up but just talking and I have made several good friends who were younger. Then I realized that it is the person..not the age that is the most important part of a relationship.
sapphireeyes
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Why are we in such a hurry?
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11/20/2009 10:18:33 PM
That is very true Mondo, it is almost like hurry up and get it over with ...enough already and then if you find someone you like it is almost anticlimatic ...like eventually you realize hey i like this person when you were just going thru the hoops and suddenly you find someone who makes time slow down (time away from them) and then speeds up (when you are with them).
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How do you think dating issues are different for those over 45 than for younger people?
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11/20/2009 11:35:59 AM
I recently read a very interesting thread where the reason for all the recent deletion of threads was addressed.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13439629.aspx
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I know it has been both a cause of concern and to some, frustrating, a new topic within minutes has generated up to two or three pages of good solid replies which would indicate that those over 45 feel the need for the thread and then poof ..its gone!
In reading the above thread these comments explained what we are doing wrong:
So beside not being a chat/list/poll/redundant thread and having a valid discussable topic like all other forums THAT forums topics must ONLY APPLY to those 45+
A number of invalid threads have been removed from that forum as well as the 30+ forum recently.
I think the purpose is so that all the forums will have the sage advice of the over 45 crowd. I think the moderators are doing their jobs. But I am hearing the frustration and seeing the lack of new topics and that I fear is resulting in a slow and painful death for the over 45 forums.
So we havent been following the rules, and are making up topics that apply to everyone not just those over 45, for some reason advise on which brand of laxitives is the best comes to mind as a good topic.
We are at a different stage in our lives and some have difficulty dealing with it, having younger people mock or make fun of our issues is why I think some over 45 feel uncomfortable posting in the other forums...
When we are talking about dating at OUR age it is a completely different mindset than those in their 20's and 30's. Actually trying to read the english on some of the other forums gives me a headache..textspeak is not my thing.
The insight and value of a man my age is what I desire, while I can appreciate the viewpoints of a younger generation in life their advice and insight into the type of man I wish to have in my life is normally going to be different.
So if we can remember to keep to the rules and make up post that only apply to those over 45 we can keep segregate ourselves from our younger fishes.
Do you think our issues are different to those of younger people who are dating? Do you think younger people's dating issues differ to ours? How?
sapphireeyes
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Starting a family aged 50+
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11/20/2009 9:19:08 AM
Children do care, very much (especially in this day and age), about the age, race, and weight of their parents........
And if you aren't "just right" in their eyes, you will catch HELL, as they blame your lack of (whatever), for what's wrong with their lives....
that is complete and utter bs, children copy what they learn so if the parents are that shallow then they will be that shallow...
SOME kids are raised to appreciate things and the age, race and weight of their parents are so insignificant compared to having good parents to teach them responsibility of accepting and appreciating WHO they are and not blaming others... Most people who are a certain heritage teach their children to be proud of that and they should be proud.
You really think kids blame their parents if they are asian and they want to be white, or if they are white and want to be black and their parents should allow that to be used as a cop out for a lack in their child? You feel that this is doing the child a favor by allowing that mindset to continue, seriously?
I remember when I had cancer and had to walk into the school with no hair to give my child's band director something in front of the whole band, I heard the whispers about my lack of hair but my child and their friends came up and hugged me and they were proud of the progress i had made JUST SIMPLY TO BE THERE and not dead...they could care less about what I looked like.
What has happened to our values that we let unimportant things be a guide to what is right in our lives? I shouldnt have kids cause Im not the right race? I shouldnt have kids cause they might not like my appearance, nevermind I would be a better parent than the kids who have the crack mommas, or the ones with a rotating door for the father flavor of the week.
Children are a blessing but it is also an obligation and allowing any child to harbor this type of entitlement about who their parents are will not make for a mentally healthy adult.
sapphireeyes
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aging moustache
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11/20/2009 8:55:38 AM
I love moustaches...I think with goatees they show a man who has kept up on fashion sense.
Every man I have been with has had them and never was it an issue for them to keep clean...if you were with a man who had snot in his moustache i suspect there were other grooming issues.
The right man...the right time...baby let me chew on your moustache in just the right way. I get worse razor burn from a clean shaved man ...one guy when I was younger felt like he had shredded my face with his stubble
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Secrets
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11/20/2009 8:51:53 AM
There is something empowering in not having to hide your secrets, the self imposed burden you covet is no longer yours to hide behind. I share the peaks and valleys of my history in the beginning, I don’t want any suspicions building and it’s also a good way of knowing how interested or judgmental someone is. After that, as time goes on I have no problem telling it all and its actually kind of fun at times. The ability to laugh or cry about ones past with someone else is very freeing.
I do not trust someone who won’t talk of their own dirt or says “that happened a long time ago, I’m not going to talk about it” when it’s obvious that its now causing distance issues in a relationship shows me someone who hasn’t excepted who they are or how they got to this place now. Were over 45 here, we all have dirt and for those who hold on to their secrets as if they were a prized possession, you are the ones who will lose because no one can free you from them but you.
Thank you for that, it makes sense especially the part about how interested or judgmental...people who are looking for an excuse will always find one.
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Shaving or trimming your privates at our age?
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11/19/2009 7:13:12 PM
I like a man with a hairy chest........I like running my hands down it....and laying my head on it.......it is so masculine......and I feel so utterly feminine.......
I love it too! Until it tickles my nose and makes me sneeze!
sapphireeyes
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What do you think about cougars?
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11/19/2009 6:58:54 PM
GRRRR BABY!!!!!!!
See the person not the age!
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People, why against the rocking chair on the porch?
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11/19/2009 6:48:47 PM
Breath, I love my moonlite strolls with my dog when I had to walk him 3/4 times a day ...at night it was our special time together and i would take a bit longer walk with him to just enjoy the moonlight....
Where I moved to has a hugh front porch and well I normally have it full of 19 to 21 year olds...they think it is great to just sit out there ....so I would say it isnt an age thing...
However when you start talking about dragon slaying...well sorry sugar it makes me want to reactivate my World of Warcraft account and really do some serious dragon slaying...(it would take 39 older people to do it together and then most of the time the dragon would win)...
So Ill buy a laptop and sit on the porch and watch you rock and you can watch me slay my dragons!
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Being committed to the relationship
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11/19/2009 12:00:38 PM
Sorry for your pain...you were plan B...Plan A worked out.
She used you until someone else she liked came along...dont worry to much sugar...she will be back in no time...she is committed to herself having a good time and to no one else.
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Secrets
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11/19/2009 11:22:43 AM
Actually I think this is a double edge sword, there is a certain level of trust you need to be able to tell someone things, but if you wait to tell them they feel betrayed...
I feel life events do not define who someone is...ie someone could be an ex marine but that doesnt make them a good person to be involved with, but someone else could be divorced cause at one point they were addicted to substances and are not now.
I would rather someone tell me about themselves when they are comfortable vs feeling forced to talk about it when they arent ready.
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What is sexy about FAT???
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11/19/2009 10:33:44 AM
What one person finds attractive, another person might not...some like blondes some redheads...but there is a difference between being found attractive and someone who has a fetish...ie like feet.
When a man is looking for a BBW and contacts me I have no desire to become his object or fetish...his interest in me is simply how I look, not who I am. I want a man to like all of me...inside and out....not just put up with a part of me cause it allows him access to some weird fetish he might have. Like the men who want you to shout **** GOD during sex, or who want to have you take a hormone to make you produce milk so they can breast feed....(if there was something I liked that was outside the normal views of sex and my partner liked it to then I see nothing wrong with two adults to do whatever floats their boat), but I have no desire to be used.
My first husband told me that no way would he ever date a skinny, average, slender girl cause it was like sleeping with a clothes hanger in the bed, one wrong turn and you could get hurt. Other men prefer a slender girl...it is the best part of life...the fact we all are different...how boring would the world be if we were all clones?
I have had many different men tell me that during sex they can be a bit more powerful and not worry about hip bone-a$$ bone connections resulting in permanent injury. So I can understand that some prefer a bigger gal.
The saddest thing I have ever heard was from a dear friend who told me he had always dated model-types and had always wanted to date a bigger woman but due to his social circles it would be frown on, (he is one of the best looking men I have seen). He went on to say that for him that sex with someone slender has no appeal and now people are questioning why he has no desire to date when so many *attractive women are eager to be with him..he said he has no desire for them.
I met a man once online that after months of talking we finally got to meet in real life, at first sight my heart sank cause he had no physical appeal to me...he was tall but he carried himself poorly, he was silent, it was worse than pulling teeth....after a while he became more comfortable and lightened up and I saw in him who I had liked online and at that point the physical appearance no longer mattered, he was beautiful in my heart.
It has taken me awhile to realize that the persons who find me attractive due so for their reasons and as long as it is all of me that they are involved with, mind, heart, physical and spiritual then I have no reason to believe they see me at anytime as less than beautiful.
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Sensitive nipples
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11/19/2009 9:38:26 AM
My ex husband had a nipple ring, there was something extremely erotic about the way the cool steel felt in my hot mouth...I dont know which one of us got hotter...him or me about it.
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What do Atheist Holla Out During Sex?
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11/19/2009 9:36:04 AM
I think I might steal Butters line..."Cheeseburgers!"
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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge?
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11/19/2009 6:59:54 AM
I know a lot of women appear to like to analyze and discuss commitment, and I haveoften wondered why? I agree with the idea that if you have to think about it, it isn't there.
Well it is cause SOME men one day are one way about you and then the next totally different ...so you dont know which is the real one and which is something else...some men only come after you after they lose you.
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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge?
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11/19/2009 6:53:53 AM
Maybe, people who have to think about whether they want to make a commitment just aren't with the right person yet. That's how I roll, that's how I play it, that's the blood that runs in my veins, and that's the kind of ornaments that hang on my tree. Know what I mean?
I think some spout how they DONT NEED OR WANT anyone but then they are on a dating site saying that so it makes you wonder why??? All kinds of forums on the internet so if it was just to interact with someone else they wouldnt have to do it here, but here they are...see I believe they are hoping someone will prove them wrong ....but if someone feels like that do they really deserve someone else to prove them wrong? Their anger and bitterness is like a beacon to stay away from them and that further adds to their anger and bitterness. What a cycle!
about commitment, you will only ever get out of life what you are willing to risk losing...play safe, live safe and be happy...or realize there is more....true love, passion, romance, sparks, fire. Personally I would rather be alive than just live.
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/19/2009 6:43:48 AM
FYI Most men with ED will not take that little blue pill everyone is talking about... They are expecting the next woman will inspire him enough. Ever notice their lists of attributes they need in their woman? Plus, they can be very rough on you physically when they can't finish, another problem the pill would fix. They really have a traumatic experience with all this, cuz like someone said they should be nicer at this age, but instead they are meaner, less sensitive and impatient.
Personally if I was a male and met with your attitude I would lose any chance of a hardon I might be able to obtain.
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/18/2009 4:00:51 PM
why is it not possible that a man wants an individual woman - regardless of age? just as an individual woman wants an individual man - regardless of age?
because those who arent liked/wanted/desired cant stand when others are, so something must be WRONG !
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/18/2009 12:31:53 PM
Oh by the way, at an early age when I learned to hunt I was taught that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and flies like a duck it is probably a duck. I learned the same rational applied to cougars although they were simply known as older women at that time. If she talks like a cougar, walks (acts) like a cougar and dates like a cougar she probably is a cougar.
No, she is simply a person...might not be the type you are attracted to but she is someone's mom, sister, daughter, aunt, friend, lover...
Why do people hate so much..we are individuals and no one likes to be lumped into something that never truly will define who they are...
Seriously it is like a bunch of emotionally and socially retards are posting this crap!
Why not take that energy you use to hate and use it to make yourself better?
IMHO there arent dirty old men, they are simply men...they have the right to like who they like...and if they find the person for them...what is it to you...is it cause they didnt pick you if you are a female or is it cause as a man you secretly want what they want but dont have the stones to go after it?
Some are evolved enough to see people, not ages, see people not colors, see people not money, etc.
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/17/2009 11:51:02 AM
Pete, yes at about 40 women get these urges that make all younger men really unsafe for them to be around!
ok ok i was joking...or was I?
Seriously some of the people here are so upset about their AGE...now really what good does it do you...just gives you frown lines and that makes you look older!
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I'm a 58 year old guy with young kids (Where is the POF/AARP/K-8 Forum?) Where do I fish?
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11/17/2009 10:48:14 AM
s it actually? Some things to consider.
1. Men have reputation for thinking with their ****s. Women don't have the reputation for thinking with their crotch.
2. It's a norm (societal?/psychological?/physical?) that goes way back, and pretty much in most societies and cultures.
3. Men earn more than women, and some people see $ as a big plus (whether it's security, things or buy, status, or whatever) in choosing a mate. So just based on numbers of men with $ versus numbers of women with $, you will see more younger women with older men. (And it has definitely been either said or strongly hinted by some on this thread that the only [or main] reason a younger woman would marry an older man was for the $$.)
4. One of the "drives" of humanity is to propagate. An older man is more likely to be able to have children with a younger woman than an older woman with a younger man.
Even with those things considered, I would be surprised if a double standard didn't make its own contribution to the situation.
Ignorance is bliss...most of the men i have been involved with were yummy! 6 2 190 broad shoulders and long legs and arms...zero body fat...all muscle. My first husband was 6 2 also, wore a size 32 waist when we met, my second husband was a size 30 waist
One was older, one was younger...and neither saw me as anything but the woman they loved...I had 2 kids with the older one and one child with the younger one
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/17/2009 8:52:35 AM
Op, I feel for you...been there...take a step back and look at things...you are afraid period of saying something cause you LIKE him...you really LIKE him...I screwed up a good thing this summer cause I felt the same type of panic you are feeling...just take a deep breath...I wish i had before i babbled on and on and then realized what a dork i sounded like.
Men from the time they notice it changes size have always been amazed as what their *manhood can do...and it is pretty amazing ...so imagine when it stops doing the amazing...and they have to figure out why...put yourself in their shoes...how would you feel? It is like their best friend who wont shake hands with them anymore! The fun they have had, the tight places they have been in and out of together for years and now THIS!
Having a loving, understanding mate can make something better but at times that isnt enough, it takes awhile for most men to finally come to an understanding about things and go from there...THE FACT that he can as an adult address things on this nature with you shows how much he already likes and trust you and that is a big obligation on your part. This is what is causing you the stress, you are afraid you will say or do something unknown to add to his *issues (lack of better word). Don't...just dont go there in your own mind...let him be him to you as he is...dont take on his issue...see that is what women do ...we try to FIX things...well in this case it isnt really broken, it is working as intended but not as he is used to...this is a new used to he has to get used to...The only thing you have to do is accept who he is, where he is in life and be supportive...and you are a smart cookie...you can do this...
Now understand some of the posters are like that saying...throw a shoe into a pack of dogs and the one that yips is the one you hit....while you are asking for advice with this ONE man...many are seeing themselves as HIM and when you state things like YOUNGER in the OVER 45 threads...people just see blood red and read no futher before they go on their small minded bully posts about how wrong anything younger is or the flip side of how much better anything OLDER is blah blah blah..dont let them get to you.
This is about you liking a man with an issue to the point that you risk setting yourself up to all this bs on the forums...he is a very lucky man to have you backing him like this...
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What a man over 45 looks for in a relationship.
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11/17/2009 8:01:15 AM
Funtunes, most women shun men who are separated...and some men shun women who are separated...once the divorce is final I think you will find better success...
Dont date an age...date a person.
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I have zero experience with older men.
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11/17/2009 7:53:07 AM
Op you will get a bunch of crap thrown back at you from this post
...your heart is in the right place...this man knows himself and what he wants...he is telling you he wont bang you all night long but he will make wild passionate love to you that will last all night. He will satisfy you...it just wont be by endless banging.
Older men have a refine touch, they know things, they read their partner and watch for signals from you about where you are and what you want.
The few men I have met who felt the need to warn me before hand later said something about how surprised they were at how well things worked so YOUR attitude about things will IMPACT very heavily on their performance...go in expecting nothing but spending quality time with a person you care about. That will give him the freedom to be himself with you and the sky is the limit then.
Good Luck to you...Ill keep my fingers crossed!
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/17/2009 7:18:09 AM
This is a recycling of how the sexy girls would go after the "badboys" leaving us nice guys to the curb.. then wind up PAST their expiration date lamenting where we are.
lmao you think you're a nice guy....DOH!
The ones who are locked in a time frame they cant see past as they wait for Prince Charming to swoop down and rescue them from themselves will not ALLOW themselves to be seen with a younger man...Dont ya know ...it just wont do!
My daughter wants to date Gerald Butler....I dont blame her :P
PS Rear <3 U !
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What a man over 45 looks for in a relationship.
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11/16/2009 9:54:57 PM
Men my age are looking for barbie dolls. Plain and simple. God forbid you are a perfect match except for the extra 25 pounds you are carrying. Funny how I look through profiles of guys my age, and they are all looking for women 10 years younger?? ugh!! If I read one more "Looking for a good hearted woman" I will seriously toss my cookies. I think its time for this chubby little keeper to delete my profile and defer to chocolate instead of a companion.
Men are not looking for barbie dolls...this is pure and utter crap...men are looking for women...some men prefer certain size women and some prefer other size women...I have no trouble finding someone to date, Im just not in a good place atm to date....and if size was that big of a factor...then I would never get a date...but it is ALL about your attitude...if you see yourself as being overweight then you are going to project that in the date and that is one thing NO man is attracted to...
THE ONE THING ALL MEN ...BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE OVER 45 ARE LOOKING FOR IS A WOMAN WHO IS CONFIDENT...who isnt afraid to be herself, who accepts who and where she is...
Dont use your weight as a reason...it isnt the reason...what you said about your exhusband is the reason..you simply arent ready yet and when you dont get selected you view it as the weight being the reason.
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Why are we in such a hurry?
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11/16/2009 6:56:26 PM
I dont think six weeks is to quick or to slow...
I think with some people you just know that there is a special type of connection ...it's a fit but you dont know what other things in their life or in yours that might prevent you from finding out how good a fit it is...this is why i wrote this is cause so many USE RED FLAGS as an excuse because deep inside they arent really ready...they don't want to be alone and so they will go thru different stages of dating but they will always be looking for the NEXT button cause of something inside of them vs the person of interest. It took me awhile to realize I was doing that and the issue wasnt the other persons..it was deep inside of me.
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/16/2009 6:45:11 PM
I agree with Serenity, I want a man to be into ME not into my age...
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/16/2009 5:01:52 PM
Op, I have trouble with a 42 year old man thinking he would be cougar bait :P
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/16/2009 4:29:13 PM
Divine, my second husband was 25 when I was 37 when we met...he actually lied to me about his age so I would get involved with him...only lie that I think he told me.
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I'm a 58 year old guy with young kids (Where is the POF/AARP/K-8 Forum?) Where do I fish?
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11/16/2009 4:27:56 PM
Dude i was just going to quote that from now on...whippppeee no standards for me anymore..come one come all ...
Please dont feed the trolls...they might become plus size :P
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How do you older women feel about a younger guy in a relationship
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11/16/2009 3:05:45 PM
I met a younger man when my kids were still in school and he asked my oldest child how they felt about me seeing him and my child said if we loved each other they didnt care. So the man asked my child wouldnt your friends make fun of you for it...to which my child said...well I dont guess they would really be my friends"
This man only dates older women and had a few who wished to use him for sex but not for a relationship and they always blame their kids, I don t think the kids mind as much as what the ladies did ...I cant imagine sleeping with someone that I was ashamed of.
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Tolerance with age?
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11/15/2009 9:27:07 PM
Yawn. The typical, forum post is comprised of one's nastiness, sweeping generalizations, cliched thinking/writing, lame/boring thinking/writing, psychobabble, or all of the above.
Tolerating the many who write so much unattractive nonsense about others and babble on about life's trivialities; and relatively little about their true, better selves.
Let's all raise another glass to anonymity - the new, non-culpable version of owning one's actions
Case in point ?????
If anyone is reading the forums for wisdom they have come to the wrong place, it is a sharing of opinions and ideas and like a$$holes everyone has one...the difference is how we present our a$$holes...oops I mean our opinions...some are just offered as a thought, Levi does this well in his post...other like to present theirs as facts when they are in fact just their opinion...some look for a humerous way to get attention from others and still others yawn perfer to point at others without realizing they are in their own way doing the same thing.
I guess I just lost my tolerance for those who believe what they do is better than someone else!
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Nose & Ear Hair
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11/15/2009 6:07:03 PM
Dude this thread made me go check for hair in places I didnt know it grew!
I mean seriously its HAIR..dirty teeth, unclean fingernails, bad breath, unkempt clothes, greasy hair etc I can understand...but I bet most who have it have no clue it is there...my ex used to have curly hair on his neck...his hair was straight but for these curls...at first when he put his hair in a ponytail and they hung out I thought ewww but after awhile i grew to love them ...
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Nose & Ear Hair
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11/15/2009 9:15:22 AM
lmao Moonie,
I dont think I even notice it...I was reading this going what are they talking about or maybe I just havent met someone with this "hair issue".
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