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Thread: Is the Big Bang Theory wrong?
stargazer1000
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Is the Big Bang Theory wrong?
Posted: 5/9/2012 5:15:04 AM
To justify it we must theorise about things we can't see and things we can't detect.
No "justification" needed. The basis of the BBT still remains recessional velocities of galaxies. Dark energy and dark matter are observed effects. The specific mechanism is not yet known.
Anyone here have any knowledge about the plasma cosmology theory? Has it been debunked?
I watched a video about it. It's an hour and a half I'll never get back! But yeah, it's debunked. There is absolutely NO observational evidence beyond anecdotes to support it. One of its failed "observations:" Comets are actually "attracting" material to them. Which is demonstrably WRONG!
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 5/2/2012 7:28:01 PM
McCullough, I mean this in all sincerity. I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic because, if not (and given the preponderance of your other posts) you really need to seek medical and psychiatric help! Please! I implore you!
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Citizen science
Posted: 5/1/2012 7:55:47 PM
Actually, there's quite a few of these "citizen science" projects happening. One of the first in distributed computing was the SETI@home screensaver. Now there's one for classifying galaxies. Another for searching for signs of exoplanets in spectrographic data. It's a great way to participate in active research!
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 4/17/2012 5:46:32 AM
It is not a matter of filling in the "gap" with God; its a matter of understanding that both possibilities are equally likely, when it concerns matters outside the confines (for lack of a better term) of this Universe.
That's a meaningless statement since "outside the confines of this universe" is a meaningless statement. What is "outside" the universe? How can something "outside" have influence on what's going on in the universe.
Basically, rather than answer any of the challenges, you're attempting to add attributes in order to fit the original premise of a god that I still have no reason to accept exists.
stargazer1000
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 4/15/2012 5:05:51 AM
just because we, mere humans in this dimension, can't test for other dimensions, doesn't mean they don't exist.
Doesn't mean they do, either. This is a "god of the gaps" fallacy. "I don't know, therefore god."
stargazer1000
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Comet ELEnin is coming..aka Nibiru
Posted: 4/13/2012 4:56:59 AM
Ignorance is bliss.
For the conspiracy theorist, usually.
NASA isnt using the SPT and WISE telescope scanning the infra red looking for brown dwarf objects for no reason.
The South Pole Telescope and the Wide Field Infrared Survey Explorer is most definitely not for no reason. It's called scientific research into phenomenon in the infrared part of the spectrum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2hW7xAGcpU
Wow! How old is THIS video? Regardless, it's bullshit. As is all the Nibiru/Planet X crap.
You do realize that, by now, if there WAS something out there, it's would be obviously visible. So...if you've got coordinates for a new object that I can point my telescope towards, let me know. If it's visible in my sky, I'd be more than happy to have a look.
stargazer1000
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 3/17/2012 6:10:42 PM
if you don't believe, you'll see,
I've already made contact,
Up the dosage! Seriously!
stargazer1000
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/13/2012 2:20:29 PM
Talking about errors Newtons, formula F=MA is frequently misunderstood and is incorrect. because Galilean Relativity is wrong, and acceleration is not a constant. The formula should read F=MGI or Force equals mass times gravitational intensity .
Okey doke, then. Now provide the proof of this assertion through application of your mathematical formula. Citation to a peer reviewed paper in any of the recognized scientific publications such as Nature should do it.
BTW...WTF is "Galilean Relativity" anyway!? Last I looked...there was no such thing!
stargazer1000
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/7/2012 9:13:21 AM
so far they have failed to physically and publicly demonstrate "something coming from nothing" to which there could be no other explaination.
And when have you applied the same standard of evidence to your own assertions? Expecting from others what you are not prepared to do yourself is hypocrisy.
stargazer1000
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Gone With The Wind
Posted: 3/7/2012 5:10:04 AM
Okay, Knight...what's YOUR alternative?
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/6/2012 5:52:52 AM
their talking nonsense as many scientist's make a career of doing.
Except they're the ones doing the calculations and you've done...what!?
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/5/2012 6:10:59 AM
you don't need proof... then you are just saying things.
That statement coming from you McCullough is oddly ironic, dontcha think!?
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 3/3/2012 7:10:04 AM
so it is Science.
What you're engaged in is not science but speculation and fantasy.
This is science:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
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Von Daniken
Posted: 3/3/2012 7:08:01 AM
I can't buy into government cover-ups because there is just no point.
I can't buy it because I can't think of any government agency I've ever seen that would be that competent!
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 3/2/2012 8:29:42 PM
by the way. "have we been looking at the aliens all these years? are the sunspot on the sun living creatures living in a breeding cycle? mat colonies of bacteria or something similar?
Are you kidding me!? Seriously? I'm seriously thinking you need to up the dosage of whatever meds you're taking McCullough. Either that, or you're just starting to make stuff up for the troll of it.
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/1/2012 10:32:03 AM
McCullough, you attempting to dispute Hawking is ridiculous! Now you're just embarrassing yourself!
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/1/2012 8:16:02 AM
God could still exist.
So could magic unicorns. Again...evidence!
I am aware that you have a little disconnect that atheism can be separated from an explanation for the existance of the universe and reduced to a lack of belief in god but that is hiding things from yourself.
Repeating the same assertions doesn't make them true. The two are separate questions. In order to unite them, you have to provide actual evidence for the existence of god(s) independent of the existence of the universe, provide a mechanism by which said god(s) created the universe and show evidence of that creation. None of which you have even attempted.
The argument you are attempting is an old one. And it has been thoroughly debunked. Moving on.
and particles cant evolve their capabilites there is no way. so that means there is an absurd explanation, God.
This is a nonsensical statement. What "particles" and what "capabilities" are you attempting to explain through "godidit?"
I have repeated myself several times on why it is not science that the universe has always been here.
Please quote the specific post where I said this was the case. As near as I can tell, this is your own personal strawman. And strawmen are fallacious.
and thats what atheist's need to prove in order for their lack of belief to be true. for it is indeed possible to have a lack of belief in things that are real. many romans did not belive that germs or bacteria or anything smaller than what the eye could see existed. which we now know is not true so your lack of belief could be misleading.
the burden of proof is not on those who make he statement that something likely doesn't exist. It's on those who make the affirmative statement that something does exist. Whether the Romans believed in germs is irrelevant to the discussion.
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 3/1/2012 8:07:42 AM
Who's playing bait and switch? Let me remind you of your earlier post.
Msg: 1231
I think the very first intelligent beings in the universe created artificial life and stuck it in to the physical bodies of the universe where it has multiplied and exists today in the stars and planets. Together with the aliens they increase the odds for life in various locations and designs the physical structure of the universe in a manner to their liking. They are responsible for life arising on this World and directed the rise of the MammAls by sending the meteorite which ended the Dinosaurs and contained the iridium that lead to the mutations that lead to us. We were intended. Just not by God, by the aliens and artificial intelligences. We're their Entertainment.
Which I addressed.
Don't whine just because you get caught out in your own suppositions.
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Posted: 3/1/2012 7:37:51 AM
Name several because you said there are many.
Any reasonable person knows that one can come up with many alternatives for explaining life.
Abiogenesis: the development of life through chemistry.
Supernatural genesis: the creation of life through supernatural means.
Technological genesis: the generation of life through artificial means.
Spontaneous genesis: the sudden and uncaused appearance of biological life
Now...do you see the problems here? Again....evidence! What do we have the evidence for?
Spontaneous genesis obviously fails because..well..within our universe, we have effect proceeds from cause. Nothing has ever been seen to suddenly and spontaneously occur without some precursor.
Technological genesis: It seems to be your preferred method. However, problems are a) you have no evidence for the technology that supposedly generated life on this planet and b) okay then...where did the technology develop? How did the developers of the technology come to be? Were they created by aliens too? What about those aliens?
Supernatural genesis: Ah, yes...Godidit! And yet...still no evidence for god(s). It's as dicey as your aliens.
Which leaves...abiogenesis. The development of biology from natural processes, specifically chemistry. It at least has the advantage of stemming from understandable and demonstrable processes. So, it is the default winner.
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/1/2012 7:18:47 AM
Again "you dont know but you know it's not God" your picking and choosing what you will believe.
Again, you are blaring your ignorance of what the proposition of "atheism" truly is. There is no proof of god.
and that's not science. that's fooling yourself.
Not fooling myself at all. I'm not relying on speculation and wishful thinking to create an image of what I want reality to be. If you actually have EVIDENCE for your god, then present it.
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 3/1/2012 7:16:15 AM
McCullough, just because you come up with an idea and it sounds really cool, doesn't make it true. Which is what you seem to expect us to accept. All you've done is the same thing that thousands of sci-fi authors have been doing since Mary Shelley. However, your idea really isn't even all that original.
so all the odds build up in the direction of what i say. there really are no alternatives.
Actually, there are many alternatives. The fact that you are saying yours is the only alternative just shows you have a big ego. Trouble is, you don't have any facts to support your speculation.
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Stephen Hawking: God Did Not Create the Universe
Posted: 3/1/2012 6:42:44 AM
and to say we just haven't figured it out yet can be a denial and avoidance of the fact that matter shouldn't be here at all. it should not exist. there is no reason. it requires an act of creation according to theories of science. that means there is a God. the alternate theory that it was always here cannot be falsified, cannot be tested, and so is out of the running.
No, to say we haven't figured something out means we haven't figured something out. Which is why there is research.
No, that does not mean matter shouldn't exist. Again...we don't know. It's not a crime to admit there are holes in knowledge. They're not god-shaped.
No. That doesn't mean god(s). And, of course, I'm assuming you mean your preferred concept of god. God(s) is/are a separate proposition which, if you posit existence, the burden of proof is on you.
No, it's not an either/or for existence. Steady state is one theory. Big Bang actually hasn't several models but the evidence is strongly in the favour of the big bang.
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 2/29/2012 9:08:58 PM
your just making stuff up.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...POP!
There goes my irony meter!
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 2/29/2012 10:29:14 AM
What is the likelyhood that we alone are the only intelligent life to have ever in all the universe to have existed.
But that's not the same question at all.
It's certainly reasonable to suppose that, based on our knowledge of chemistry and physics and the predominance of possible abodes for life, that there will be life out there.
However, it is unreasonable to assume, based on what we might think about the prevalence of life in the universe, that it somehow comes to us or that it had anything to do with our evolution. For that, you need evidence. Otherwise, it's just conjecture and wishful thinking.
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 2/29/2012 8:32:33 AM
I think the very first intelligent beings in the universe created artificial life and stuck it in to the physical bodies of the universe where it has multiplied and exists today in the stars and planets.
I could say I think it was magic unicorns. But so what. Without something called evidence, weelllll....
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Posted: 2/29/2012 8:31:04 AM
t o be con vicing atheist have to explain how the universe started
Um....no they don't. You clearly have no understanding of what atheism is. Here. Let me help you with that.
a·the·ism [ey-thee-iz-uhm] noun
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
It's not a cosmological question. It's not a question of origins.
I don't believe in a god(s) and no theist has ever given me good enough reason to accept the notion that one or more exists. The things you cite as "problems" aren't problems. They're simply fields of ongoing research.
Of course, to scientists it's usually "I don't know, therefore more research." To theists like yourself, it's "I don't know, therefore god." It's really quite lazy and it's not how you are here now, able to type your rambling prose on a computer.
atheist have no time machine
Neither do theists and they cannot go back in time to observe divine creation or see god snapping his fingers and making everything pop into existence.
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Von Daniken
Posted: 2/29/2012 5:24:42 AM
Apparently, in order to be credible when it comes to goofy stuff, you either have to have a penchant for hats or weird hair. Like this guy:
http://chzderp.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/hurr-durr-derp-face-i-dont-know-therefore-aliens.jpg
But yeah, I'm ashamed to say that, at one time, I read Chariots of the Gods and gave it credence. In my defence, though, I WAS 14! Then I grew up. Eric von Daniken apparently doesn't like ancient people all that much and thinks they're really stupid. I think EVD is full of shit. But he sold lots of books and became a rich man. So you can't argue with that kind of success.
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 2/15/2012 6:48:41 AM
Praise the lowly virus!
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/02/14/mammals-made-by-viruses/
Mammals Made By Viruses
If not for a virus, none of us would ever be born.
In 2000, a team of Boston scientists discovered a peculiar gene in the human genome. It encoded a protein made only by cells in the placenta. They called it syncytin.
The cells that made syncytin were located only where the placenta made contact with the uterus. They fuse together to create a single cellular layer, called the syncytiotrophoblast, which is essential to a fetus for drawing nutrients from its mother. The scientists discovered that in order to fuse together, the cells must first make syncytin.
What made syncytin peculiar was that it was not a human gene. It bore all the hallmarks of a gene from a virus.
Viruses have insinuated themselves into the genome of our ancestors for hundreds of millions of years. They typically have gotten there by infecting eggs or sperm, inserting their own DNA into ours. There are 100,000 known fragments of viruses in the human genome, making up over 8% of our DNA. Most of this virus DNA has been hit by so many mutations that it’s nothing but baggage our species carries along from one generation to the next. Yet there are some viral genes that still make proteins in our bodies. Syncytin appeared to be a hugely important one to our own biology.
stargazer1000
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 2/15/2012 4:55:15 AM
Evolution is a myth created by small minded haters to push their anarchist agenda.
Actually "sister," you're going against your own organizations teachings. Unless, of course, you're presuming to know more than a pope.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/adam-eve-and-evolution
Pope Pius XII declared that "the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God" (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36).
So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents,
as our bodies are.
And given the existence of a soul has not and is not proven to exist...
Here's a letter to Pope Benedict from Ken Miller, a leading evolutionary biologist and devout Catholic.
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/catholic/papal-letter.html
Time to catch up with the times, sister.
Great profile, but I think its got to be fake.......
Yeah, I call "Poe" too!
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 2/14/2012 7:43:20 PM
Faith is meaningless without the possibility of doubt.
Should've put the period after the third word.
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 2/13/2012 8:11:13 AM
ahh yes, the magic of natural selection.
Okay, the irony of this statement cannot go unchallenged.
I find it very ironic when a creationist uses the phrase "magic" as a pejorative for anything like natural selection and then turn around and advocate for what is absolutely a magic explanation. Specifically, the magic creation of...well...everything by some unseen and invisible magical sky wizard or what have you!
Bottom line is NO! You CAN'T have it both ways! If you dismiss science because you want to accuse it of being "magic" then you can't turn around and claim your magical explanation is superior!
Things we don't understand in science is a mystery and science thrives on what it doesn't know YET. Repeat...holes in knowledge are not god-shaped!
which, by the way, only gets RID of living things.
Wrong. That is an assertion unsupported by anything but the imagination and deliberate misinterpretation by the one doing the asserting. A common tactic by creationists/IDers and it don't fly!
natural selection has never been seen or known to add a microscopic piece of new genetic information to dna.
[it's in your own dogmatic sources]
as in;
increasing the amount of base pairs in dna,
from first life to present forms of immense amounts of dna.
I think LC challenged this one pretty handily. With citations!! Something shockingly missing from the creationist standpoint! Go fig!
yes, unproven dogmatic theories abound.
gene duplication, etc.
Ah, another pejorative. This time, we're going to use the phrase "dogma" to attack science. And yet, the best we can get is the ultimate dogma "god dun didit!!!"
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Posted: 2/9/2012 5:30:50 AM
evolution is a fact=the best example of dogma.
Evolution is a fact = fact. Observed, demonstrable science. Dogma = insisting that invisible sky wizard (usually the individual's personal concept of sky wizard) is the only means to explain anything unknown.
evolutionist are STILL squabbling over any and all mechanisms that can be seen as factual.
there aren't any, as far as many can see.
'Holes' in knowledge are not 'god'-shaped. Not only has any creationist ever provided evidence for the "sky wizard behind the curtain," they haven't even offered evidence for the bloody curtain.
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Posted: 2/6/2012 11:40:09 AM
I'm like dude, past is past. What's acceptable during ancient times is obviously NOT applicable in the present. Although I don't know if you can point out ANYthing that Jesus did in NT that is STILL not applicable today.
Ah...okay then. I guess you'd better wait to have man before you post anymore comments.
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Or Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Got kids? Then you're just not as good a Christian as you think you are! Indeed, why are you expressing any opinions at all?
1 Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
And look what a family man Jesus was!
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 2/6/2012 11:23:41 AM
So believing in God automatically makes you anti intellectual aka ignorant?
No, just your particular brand of theism makes YOU anti-intellectual and also ignorant.
Then why are there scientists that believe in God
Ask them. Ken Miller is a practicing Catholic and an accomplished evolutionary biologist. I interact all the time with theists who honestly believe but don't show nearly the same load of bollocks that theists like you do - it seems as if you think that if you're rude enough and shout loud enough without offering anything of substance, you somehow "win" the argument.
Ever hear the saying about attempting to argue with a creationist is like teaching a pigeon to play chess? You are the quintessential pigeon!
and why oh why are there more much more believers than non believers? YOU DO KNOW IT'S A STATISTICAL FACT! ? So what? The world is populated by ignoramous sapiens? lolololol.
Argumentum ad populum. Look it up.
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Posted: 2/6/2012 10:16:57 AM
This is why I believe. I can not, will not accept that when you die, that's it.
I forget who it was who said that "people fear death because they are too narcissistic to imagine a world without them." Preferring to believe or not to believe in something doesn't lend any more truth to the proposition either way. Fact of the matter is...you're going to die and there ain't a damn thing you're going to do about it.
I believe in eternal life after death. Jesus promised that. John 3:16 anyone?
Wow. A quote from a holy book. Well then...that clinches it! Oh wait...why not one of the other dozens of holy books out there? Except maybe this viewpoint serves your own vanity, perhaps.
None of which has ANYTHING to do with the OP.
And no A-holes here or in other forums in future I will go to that will make me change my mind EVER again. MY truth is obviously NOT your truth.
There is only truth. No one owns it. If you want to assert that something you believe is 'True' then the burden of evidence is on you. The fact that you can say that no one will EVER change your mind is only a problem for you. It shows you closed- and narrow-minded.
Your brand of anti-intellectualism is what's wrong with the world today. It's not the saving of it.
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End times?
Posted: 2/1/2012 9:54:24 AM
Okay, seriously! This thread was silly to begin with but now it's taken a right turn into Woohoo-ville! Seriously, Kohavah, can you at least TRY to construct a coherent sentence?
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End times?
Posted: 1/31/2012 8:33:10 AM
I think there is alot of truth to that Mayan calendar stuff
And yet, without evidence....
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 1/30/2012 4:49:08 AM
you are not open to any evidence that there might be a god, so I won't give you any, and you have heard it all before.
This is one of my favourite creationist/theist cop-outs!
Read: All I've got is the same old, worn-out "proofs" that have been debunked time and time again. So I'm just going to say you're not "open" to the "evidence."
there is also no concrete evidence of many scientific ideas that are perpetuating society.
Such as...?
You do know there is a word for that, don't you? It's called a "hypothesis." Which is why it's not as well regarded as a "theory" by scientists. To scientists, theories are the highest form of proposition because it is so strongly supported by...wait for it!....ev-i-dence!
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What is evil?
Posted: 1/24/2012 6:23:10 AM
Actually, there is a presenter on YouTube called Qualiasoup who has a great series of videos in which he tackles "morality."
http://www.youtube.com/user/qualiasoup?blend=1&ob=4
I stand to be corrected but I believe the take-away on this is that what we deem "morality" is basically a reflection of our own prejudices and preferences as the notion that there is "objective" morality is essentially flawed.
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Could mind Altering drugs have a medical role
Posted: 1/24/2012 6:16:37 AM
They already are being tested for medical use. There was a documentary on the CBC a while ago that showed the use of an LSD derivative that has been used for the treatment of cluster headaches.
Psilocybin and LSD have also had clinical tests done in the treatment of depression as well as for treating depression and anxiety for terminal patients.
I'm all for legalizing these things and being done with it.
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megalithic construction
Posted: 1/23/2012 7:52:06 AM
''If we go back far enough, we are all related''
well, I'll be a monkeys uncle.
More of a very distant cousin.
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Aerial Pictures of luna leftovers
Posted: 1/20/2012 5:52:26 AM
we know exactly were it all is and the reasons for the poor shots are the orbiting sat is moving to quick and the objects are only metres across ..
I really don't get where you're going with this. Are you saying that the images of past lunar landings taken by the LROC...aren't good enough? The LROC is perhaps
THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION
imager to ever orbit the moon. And they've imaged all of the American and several Russian landing sites. What more are you expecting from it?
I'll point out again that the purpose of the LRO
is for detailed imagery of geological features of the moon
with a possible view to future landings by either probes or human beings. But if you think they can do better, then why not submit a proposal to NASA outlining the equipment they should be using, the orbit they should be following, etc.
its not just pretty pictures though , it's historically one of the greatest achievements of modern history , your telling me we can get close up pics of the ice on the moon titan.
The images of ice on Titan aren't from an orbiter but from a lander. And it was a significant finding.
as first stated im just surprised the amount of money spent on it all and the historical impact it has for our species why it isnt more clearly viewed and admired as time goes by
We have pictures. We have samples of lunar rocks from the moon...and you can look at the moon any time you want through a telescope.
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Aerial Pictures of luna leftovers
Posted: 1/19/2012 5:31:54 AM
i get exactly what your saying i just thought with something as historically important as the moon landing more aerial pics of the sites with better clarity would of been produced yrs ago , and shown to the nation's, unless you search you don't get shown anything
Not really and for the reasons I stated above. Pretty pictures of past moon landings are the priority for lunar orbiting probes. Nor should they be. The only reason we're getting them now is because LRO was designed for high resolution/low orbit imaging of the lunar surface down to a scale of resolution fine enough to resolve the landers.
And the key point is that the information IS available for the finding and looking. But, really, why should the public be spoonfed this? If you've got an interest in something, don't you have a certain responsibility to find out about it on your own, rather than snapping your fingers and expecting it to be brought to you on a platter?
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Aerial Pictures of luna leftovers
Posted: 1/18/2012 8:31:23 PM
what surprises me is why when its such a big deal first man on the moon historic moment is there only one recent pic that isnt really that good anyway? i would of thought it would of been pushed in our faces at say historic intervals after the event ?
First of all...it's not the "only" pic of equipment left on the lunar surface. Here's a whole gallery of them:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/index.html
Understand, when NASA launches a probe somewhere, there primary concern is most definitely NOT to counter the BS spouted by every half-rate, pea-brained conspiracist out there who don't believe it even when it's shown to them. The equipment is there to do a job. But if they happen to be able to get a pic of human tech previously landed there, that's cool too.
dont we have the tech to be able to photograph these luna objects in more detailed clarity yet ?
Taking pics from orbit isn't easy. Remember, you're talking things mere metres across and pictures taken from an orbiting probe travelling thousands of miles an hour.
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 1/17/2012 1:23:16 PM
If you can explain, to me, how an isolated culture in ancient TURKEY. Had the same originating story and names of their gods as an equally isolated culture of say.... South America, then yes, you would be correct.
I don't have to explain anything. You're the one making the assertions. Specifically, the assertion was that the connection between Sumerian creation stories and christian creation stories were so similar when, as I pointed out that the difference is easily explained by proximity. So, not surprising, you trot out the unrelated "Turkey and South America creations stories are the same" nugget and tell me I'm supposed to explain it? Um...no. The onus to provide evidence is on you. Preferably, something with some credibility and not from a "Aliens did it" website would be nice.
But some things that you have to think about. number 1. NO ships have ever been found that prove that intercontinental travel was possible in those days (as a matter of fact, stating that ancient, primitive cultures had the smarts to navigate and cross oceans is already a HUGE argument amongst mainstream science). No 2. Did they fly? hmmm.. No 3. The stories that these people talk about says nothing about some culture landing on their shores, witnessing to them, their beginnings. No 4. All of the cultures that DO share the same stories all talk about their experiences with their star gods, not their earthly brethren.
Um...again, I don't have to do anything. It's up to you to provide
SPECIFIC
evidence.
And it's not me saying that they couldn't do it. It's history/geography/science scholars that believe they weren't smart enough to do it.
Citations?
the Piri Reis map composed in 1510 or so. How did that guy know what the shore line and underlying islands of Antarctica looked like if our science says that the entire continent has been under miles of ice for eons?
Again...citations? Or is this more "woo-page" blanket assertions?
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 1/17/2012 10:56:30 AM
I've studied everything from the original Sumerian creation story (which is eerily similar to our Genesis story, with names of their first man being "Adamu" and their original creation spot being called "Eden", pronouced with a soft E instead of a hard E like the Christian story of creation)
It's really not all that mysterious or eerie at all!! Do you really think the cultures of the middle east and northern Africa developed in a vacuum? Do you really think the stories of one culture wouldn't be known of and incorporated into the stories of another? Do you really think that trade and war wouldn't have blended and united different cultures, even those separated by thousands of miles??
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Humans created by Aliens: Plausible theory?
Posted: 1/17/2012 9:28:00 AM
Anyways, here is a SMALL list of the scientists that support the theory, in full, and also believe that there is a massive cover up
Is that anything like the lists of scientists who support creationism/intelligent design? Because that was a wonderful collection of crap.
In addition, you're not helping yourself by using Richard Hoagland once, never mind twice. He pretty much sees everything anomalous as "evidence" of aliens. He's built himself quite a nice, profitable career on gull...um...believers buying his books.
Thirdly, you realize what you're doing is the old "argument from authority" gambit. "Hey, Scientist A believes in..." That's another little tactic of the creationists. The best response to this approach is "So?"
Hey, I've been pretty aware of the "research" for a long time too - longer than 10 years. As far as I can tell, the best "evidence" has been "It's alien because I say it's alien."
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Evolution vs Creationism/Intelligent Design
Posted: 1/16/2012 7:57:58 PM
Plus, your post is like saying, if God made us, then who made God? It's an answer that can't be reached.
Ding, ding!!!
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What is evil?
Posted: 1/16/2012 7:48:59 PM
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
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What is evil?
Posted: 1/16/2012 6:23:18 PM
What is evil?
The "dutch oven." It's just so wrong on so many levels!!
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