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the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

Msg: 8 (view)

SUGGESTION: How about a RATE PROFILE option? Posted: 10/1/2009 11:44:12 AM
I've seen very few profiles I'd rate highly (9 or 10/10 range) as far as the narrative section goes. You can always email a person with a good narrative to notify them that you like their profile. I would doubt POF would implement such a feature because users would simply rate the pictures. Also, it's good to keep in mind that a long, self-indulgent, meandering profile does not mean it's a profile that would rate highly. Brevity is always your friend in a dating site profile. Sniff.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Green Dot next to Email Contacts? Posted: 9/30/2009 9:33:32 AM
I'm going to guess that it means that the user is online now.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Last online Posted: 9/15/2009 10:22:21 PM
You can...as I stated earlier...simply copy and paste their name in the "user search" and get that same information. Edit...I just timed myself...from the time I clicked on the photo at the top...went to profile and copied and pasted into a user search...it took 8 seconds. By the way, this is erroneous information. Pasting a user name into the user search box does NOT tell you when that particular user was last online. Waste eight seconds if you like. As I indicated, you can only tell from the favorites list or by doing a search by age and distance. End of.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Last online Posted: 9/15/2009 3:33:52 PM
There's no way for you to know exactly unless you're on their favorites or they're on yours. As far as the "last 10 people to check their email within 50 miles" thing, I will say that it is not accurate. It seems to me that that line dredges up people with whom you've had previous contact. If you see someone pop up there and go search for them you'll see that they have not necessarily been on that day. And those are people whose profiles are not hidden. The only way to find out the last time someone was on is to search by age and distance. You can then determine if they're on now or have been online in the last day, week or month. I would only contact those listed as having been "online today" and maybe those towards the top of the "online this week" list. You're sending email into a black hole otherwise.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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PICS Posted: 9/14/2009 12:19:04 PM
It would be impossible to verify who is who though. I would think that in an honest situation like mine, where a user has been asked kindly to remove a photo of another user and it has been reported, that there could be some action to remedy the situation.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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PICS Posted: 9/14/2009 11:42:27 AM
Yes, wouldn't that be nice? But I don't think it will happen. There is a guy who I know in my area who is using a picture of him and me that is almost four years old as his main profile picture (for both his Chicago profile AND his Cleveland profile). I have asked him to crop me out of it to no avail. And I know women think we are in cahoots because I have gotten messages to that end. The guy told me a week ago that some woman I obviously had contact with asked him if I'd put him up to emailing her. And yet there is seemingly no recourse to deal with this situation. I reported that the guy has two profiles and is using my photo, but nothing was done and he STILL has two profiles running concurrently.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Profile Suggestion...tell me what you think! Posted: 8/26/2009 2:01:44 PM
The rating "function", like date night, paid serious members and paid virtual gifts, is extraneous.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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ok, i'll try this Posted: 8/20/2009 6:18:35 PM
First off, I would remove the "new note" part of your first date section. Things happen on here, and you just have to let them go. It happens to most everyone on here. The "intensity" certainly does come through. It may be a bit too intense for some, but if that's you then it's cool. Just be yourself. I would change your main pic to the "winter 09" one where your whole face is visible (no sunglasses). Someone could delete your main pic because you're in sunglasses. I would also go back and capitalize all of your "I's" and when you start new sentences. Currently, you have some sentences capitalized and some that aren't.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Five months Posted: 8/20/2009 6:09:28 PM
Very original first date section. Kudos for coming up with that. I would remove the "I am not" section entirely. Focus instead on the "wants." Paragraphs are always better than lists, which sometimes come across as lazy. You might want to expound upon what you're looking for in a woman. You're in NYC! Add a paragraph on what you like about the city. I hear it's the best city in the world. So called!! You might want to put captions on your pics indicating when they were taken. I can't tell what your current "look" is.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Can anyone take a look? Posted: 8/20/2009 6:02:11 PM
The others are right. You need better, clearer pictures. You'll need to add a little meat to your narrative as well. All it tells the reader is that you're in school and love sports. That's too generic. I suggest you have one paragraph on your school situation, one on sports (keep it short), one on other interests and another on what you're looking for in a woman.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Chicago Blackhawks player arrested over a 20 cent dispute. Posted: 8/10/2009 4:35:19 PM
First of all, Kane is 20, not 21. So he's not of age and he's out at 4 a.m. in a bar district. What was he doing? Getting ready for the early Sunday morning mass? I don't think so! Also, I saw and met Kane out on Division Street in Chicago about 18 months ago at around 3:30 a.m. after a road game. So I don't think Kane being out burning the midnight Bud Light is an isolated occurrence. This is a case of two kids who were over served getting upset about twenty cents when they should have just given the driver the $15 and walked off. The whole thing about the driver knowing who Kane was is nonsense. It's dark, 4 a.m. and he's in the back seat. Kane isn't nearly the ubiquitous superstar some people on other boards make him out to be. When I met the kid nobody in the bar knew who he was except me. That was prior to his ROTY trophy and the resurgence of the team, yes. But hockey is still a niche sport here in Chicago and way down the totem pole as far as sports. I bet Kane could still go out in this town and still not be recognized by most people. We'll see what happens. I'd expect some kind of plea and civil settlement. And bye-bye endorsements.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth? Posted: 8/10/2009 4:04:42 PM
I used to check the ratios for fun whenever my luck wasn't running so high. To get an accurate ratio you should only check the numbers of who's been online today. People doing searches and counting all pages that come up are counting people who are no longer here. What I recall is that guys "online today" outnumbered women "online today" by a three to five-to-one ratio at any given time. Even more telling was that if you looked at "online now" the ratio would be anywhere from 10 to 15-to-1 or even higher. Those numbers can be deceptively discouraging on their face. But when you take a look at the profiles of the competition you realize that you should not really be discouraged. If you're crafty with your profile and emails and have decent photos, you can easily cut through the seemingly daunting numbers, without exactly being Valentino or Hemingway.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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topic gone Posted: 7/30/2009 4:02:56 PM
It's still there. It's just not linked on the main page. Go to your "my forums" and you'll be able to access it that way.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Do all men have to... Posted: 7/30/2009 3:58:53 PM
The answer is yes. It's a deal breaker if she declines. I once had a woman I was dating for a time decline it, so I declined to sleep with her. She wouldn't talk to me for the next two months. And that was the end of our dating relationship. Oh well. That's how important it is.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Hidden Profiles Posted: 7/9/2009 4:23:08 PM
Mine is hidden at the moment, but I still see new people showing up on my viewed me list, and they are always from somewhere way out of state and people with whom I've never had any communication whatsoever. I assume it's somehow related to the forums. I know a hidden profile wouldn't show up on searches.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Going on '1st Dates'... Any tips and ideas.. Posted: 7/8/2009 10:14:14 PM
Well, I'd be the one doing the follow-up email, so I'd have no problem leaving the meetup by saying I'd email. It's totally painless. How many people tell the other person at the end of a meetup or date that it's going to be a no go as far as future frolicking? I would venture a guess that's it's not many. You initially met and communicated via email. I see no reason for the follow-up to not be the same. You have your answer one way or another and move on. If there's mutual interest, then you go to the phones. If they're not interested, they still generally answer to decline. If you're not interested, at least you told her, were nice about it and she knows. Simple.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Going on '1st Dates'... Any tips and ideas.. Posted: 7/8/2009 8:57:12 PM
People are making this a lot more complicated than it needs to be. My suggestions would be: 1) screen via email for at least one week and have at least one phone call before a meetup; 2) lower your expectations to zero going into a meetup; 3) meet at a local bar for a drink or two over 1-2 hours (coffee, while tasty, is boring and too conspicuous); 4) try to be as loose as possible, and of course be yourself (don't make it an interview); 5) tell her at the end of the meetup that you'll email your thoughts about getting together again (an end of the meetup kiss is presumptuous); 6) email her the next day with your thoughts to let her know you have interest or to move on. Voila, there are the Cliff's Notes to Online Dating 101 - The Meetup.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Why was my picture Deleted?????? Posted: 7/2/2009 6:57:57 PM
I tried to start a thread on what looks like a new picture accept/delete function under the Rating section, but it wouldn't post, for whatever reason. If you go into the Rating section, you now have the option to accept or delete the pictures that come up for voting. There are four options to delete and one to accept the picture. I don't know if these are pictures that have been reported or random pictures from random profiles coming up for the jury to decide if they're kosher. It wouldn't be a bad function to have if everyone were honest, but we know users vote to delete pictures and threads for dubious reasons. This is likely how your picture got deleted. And it's likely why more people are complaining lately about pictures being deleted. There are a lot of users who are delete happy with pictures and posts, for reasons that a lot of times are not forthright. Maybe the moderator/administrator could explain how this feature works. They should indicate whether your pictures come up for delete votes if you don't have your pictures up for rating, etc.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Reporting And deleting Main images Posted: 7/2/2009 4:35:45 PM
I tried posting this in a new thread, and it didn't seem to take. There is a new part under the Rating section. You now have the option to go through photos and either approve or delete them. There's one approve button and four delete buttons to remove for cause (e.g. no clear head shot, shirtless picture, cartoon). I don't know if the pictures are random or if they've been reported by someone and are now given to the jury for a decision. I wonder how many votes it takes to delete a picture. Sounds like a decent feature to have for self-policing as long as everyone is honest (cough, hack). However, it does seem users like deleting pictures, posts, threads, etc., for reasons that are sometimes less than forthright and dubious at best. Maybe the moderator/admin can explain this new feature.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Report Violations Thread Posted: 6/19/2009 11:12:34 PM
Not to get too specific, but way too many of the reports are reaching, borderline or a stretch. It's really an abuse for non-moderators to run around reporting every little ticky tack thing that is close to being in the neighborhood of a violation in that person's mind. Users should be limited to making no more than three reports every 24 hours. Those who continue to make reports that are a stretch at best should lose reporting privileges because the same people tend to come back and make the same reports. I've seen 10 reports at a time in one post and five reports obviously made by one person within 10 minutes. That's overreaching in a big way to satisfy I don't know what. The forums should be fun and informative. Too many patrol them looking to reach for anything close to a supposed violation in which they can sink their teeth and report.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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New Feature: Date Night ! Posted: 6/12/2009 5:20:25 PM
why would you add something to benefit the people that are already having success Were you here when they doled out the free serious member thing to women? Or did you happen to miss that one? Right. It may or may not be desperate for a woman to put herself on the Friday night date list, but it is certainly redundant to do so when she's already on a dating site. I'm sure it will equate to more email. Whether it ends up being quality email or not, we'll just have to see. It seems to me they'd get quite a lot of fly by night email.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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New Feature: Date Night ! Posted: 6/12/2009 4:40:37 PM
Kind of like how the virtual gifts were "embraced" and the serious member thing is still being "embraced?" This might work for those not receiving much email. I can't see women already being flooded with email putting themselves on this list such that they get even more email. It just seems a little...desperate. That's if I'm allowed to say that. The site is fine without all of the little tweaks that have been tried to "improve" it, the pulling of the IM feature notwithstanding (bad move!). All of the beneficial things people suggest to improve the site are never implemented or even considered.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Man Sues Match.com for Baiting & Switching Posted: 6/11/2009 10:35:03 PM
Maybe Match will settle for the amount he paid in subscription fees and legal bills. I see this case getting dismissed down the line. That said, what needs to happen is for the Dept. of Commerce to step in and investigate the pay sites. The government needs to say you can't advertise these non-paying subscribers as being here to entice other people to pay. That's almost a Ponzi scheme. I always use the analogy of going online to your favorite retail site, seeing the item you want to buy, making payment and never receiving the item or a credit. It's basically the same thing. The problem with pay sites is that they advertise like mad, get the most traffic and more than half of their female "members" are not paying subscribers. Yet, nobody seems to know this, and people just keep signing up. There's a site out there that claims 1 in 11 profiles on Match is of a paying subscriber. It's based on quotes from someone who formerly worked at Match.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Exercise bikes, good for cardio? Posted: 5/8/2009 1:24:56 PM
The stationary bike can get your heart rate up, but I get zero results from it as far as weight and fitness go. I could go 25 minutes a day on 10 level six days a week and never see a result. Whereas, if you jump rope you get more of a workout and get results fast. It's imperative that you have a speed rope though and stretch both before and after. It's more fun than running.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Taking it sl-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-w-w-w-w-w-w... Posted: 4/29/2009 10:17:12 PM
Most guys who are into a woman and physically attracted to her will want to move things into the fast lane as far spending time with her. "Taking it slow" is a female thing and is a totally alien concept to men. If this guy were truly interested and physically attracted to her, then he would have done whatever it is he had to do to spend time with her. He either wasn't really interested and wanted to carry on a pen pal relationship or had too many other things going on in his life to make time for her. Lastly, why talk to someone for five months' time and meet them once? Those talking and never meeting scenarios never pan out because they're based on fantasy and likely falsehoods.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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gave me her number but never picked up the call Posted: 4/16/2009 3:23:50 PM
Even if you talk to them for two hours, they don't call back somewhere around 75% of the time, especially if there's alcohol involved. In your case, it was a flyby scam where you asked for the number in less than five minutes. There's no connection there whatsoever. So the chances of no call back are even higher. I suggest making a single phone call, leaving a message and then losing the number. Consider it a bonus at that point if you get a return call. If not, then it's already forgotten.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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when is the right time... Posted: 4/9/2009 6:55:09 PM
Two months is way too long to be emailing because expectations will be sky high and could get blown out of the water within five minutes of meeting. Women seem to be comfortable voluntarily forwarding their phone number within 2-3 emails on here. You should know if you want to meet by the end of that phone call and set something up soon afterward. Also, communicating via email with distance on top of that isn't advisable because of the same expectations problem. You never know who's on the other end of the computer and if he or she is being completely honest. That's why meeting somewhere between 1-2 weeks of the first email is the best avenue. Two months of email without a mention of a phone conversation or meetup raises all sorts of suspicion and red flags.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Eharmony - Knowing What You Are Buying ? Posted: 4/8/2009 8:10:49 PM
Post 51 totally nails the scheme of the pay sites. It is amazing that it stands as legal that pay sites can intermingle paying members with non-paying members. The problem is that it isn't widely known by the public that non-paying members cannot read your emails or respond to them. It's a near Ponzi scheme, where they use non-paying members to entice other members to pay. As to the 1% claim, that sounds a little low. There's a quote out there by a former higher up at Match who claimed 1 in 12 profiles was of a paying member. That sounds low too. But you can bet it's way south of a 50% rate of paying members. So not only do you have to jump the hurdle to get them to respond, you have to jump the hurdle of whether they're even a paying member who can respond.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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testimonial... Posted: 4/7/2009 10:41:53 AM
They're pure territory marking by those too far from the person they're writing about or those who have communicated with and/or met the person they're writing about but don't quite fit that person's criteria but hope they change their mind. It's another one of the silly "features" of this site.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

Msg: 15 (view)

Got a question, maybe you could shed some light. Posted: 4/6/2009 4:00:06 PM
B17, first of all, views are not an indication of interest. They're an indication of nothing. Secondly, it's not wise to send a second email if the recipient never responded to your first one. Thirdly, to put your mind at ease, you could always go directly to your sent box after sending an email and just delete it so it doesn't affect your ego. That way it's forgotten. If you get an answer, consider it a bonus. All guys here go through this same thing. Don't take it personally. And don't let it affect your ego. You never know who is on the receiving end of the email anyway until you meet her.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Why are they getting cold feet? Posted: 4/5/2009 5:21:23 PM
New, it sounds as if you're doing the drive-by/kamikaze form of meeting women here, as you suggest in your initial email a place to meet up. If you haven't communicated with them a bit through email and then over the phone, you can bet that you're going to have no-shows and/or disappearing acts because the connection is flimsy at best. The more you email them and talk to them on the phone, the less likely your scenario is going to happen. Try being a little more deliberate and patient in your vetting process.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Exchanging numbers crisis Posted: 4/5/2009 3:03:19 PM
If a woman asks you for your number in a bar/pub/club, consider it game over because she won't call you. If a woman gives you her number in a bar/pub/club, consider it a lottery ticket at best, as they don't pick up or call back at least 75% of the time.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Identifying fake pics Posted: 4/3/2009 11:30:54 PM
As you've cleared that up, I'd consider that an extenuating circumstance, Navigator. That was actually pretty nice of you.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Identifying fake pics Posted: 4/2/2009 6:42:28 PM
Navigator, I don't know how you overlooked the red flag flying high in the stiff breeze of the woman asking you to her house for the meet-and-greet. Fake pictures are pretty easy to spot. Old pictures can be sussed out by asking the right questions. There are plenty of both on this site. Stay away from the one picture, perfect lighting pictures altogether. And always ask for more pictures a few emails in if they only have a few pictures. This is the digital age. Everyone has more pictures than they're showing on their profile.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Neg Hits ~ Heard of them? Opinions? Ever used them? Posted: 4/2/2009 11:54:01 AM
This isn't anything new. People used this approach in college and had success - sometimes. I doubt women 30+ go for this type of thing though.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Should I be waiting longer to respond? Posted: 4/2/2009 11:36:04 AM
You've totally over analyzed this situation. There's no scenario under which a woman can email back "too soon." You do realize guys here are not flooded with email, don't you? There are some guys here who report they're simply grateful to get a morsel such as a "thanks but no thanks" email response back. I'd be glad to get an immediate positive response back to an email, as would all guys here. However, it rarely occurs, as women here seem to have to navigate their way through a virtual thick jungle of email to get to the good ones.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Is it just me or.... Posted: 4/2/2009 11:22:54 AM
Like favorites, the viewed me list, the abortive paid virtual gifts thing, the serious member thing and the sent messages thing, it's another one of the useless features of this site. It's neither a bell nor a whistle. Carry on with conducting your own searches and you'll have far more success.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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HOw many messages are girls getting? Posted: 4/1/2009 11:52:30 PM
Message 17 is pretty much on target based on what I've heard, and I ask all of them. They get inundated by email and IM's when they join up, and then it tails off to a handful of emails a day after a few weeks. Almost all of it ends up in the circular file though.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Etiquette advice for a newb Posted: 4/1/2009 11:40:13 PM
You can pretty much disregard the viewed me, favorites and sent mail links. The favorites link is only good for finding people with whom you have already had correspondence. The sent mail link is only good for tracking emails after someone has responded to you. The viewed me link is fun to look at, but that's it. If I'm lucky, one woman a day shows up on my viewed me link. I can double that walking a half block down a city street. So don't put any stock in those links, aside from tracking purposes, unless you're into self-emasculation. Ouch.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Should a guy be persistent? Posted: 3/31/2009 10:41:42 PM
What you need to do is come up with a good, eye catching caption to your initial email so that she might drift to yours first. Then, your email is going to have to be tailored specifically to items in her profile. Let her know you read it. After you send your initial email, go to your sent box and delete it. Out of sight, out of mind. If you get a response, then you can save her latest one for tracking purposes. Don't ever send a second email without a response to your initial email. The only occasion you should have to send a second email without her responding in the interim is if you've been shooting regular emails back and forth to each other. You'll get responses on those occasions.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Trying to covince her.... why is it so hard? Posted: 3/31/2009 10:34:39 PM
Agree with OK Cornelius about this guy getting way ahead of himself. Don't put anyone on a pedestal before you've ever met them. First, you have to get a response to your email. Second, you have to make it to the meet-and-greet. You never really know anything until you've done the meet-and-greet. That's reality. Don't fall for the fantasy. Settle down and take things slower, or you'll crash and burn here real quick like.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Long Distance Posted: 3/31/2009 10:25:55 PM
It is my belief that if you have to contrive circumstances just to meet up with someone, you will only wind up with a contrived relationship. This is one of the smartest statements I have seen written in these forums and sums this topic up quite succinctly. I wholeheartedly agree. Find someone local and have a real relationship.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Why only once and no more? Posted: 3/31/2009 9:22:29 AM
In general, they are able to upgrade pretty much at will because guys are willing. If it's one and out they write it off so they don't feel bad about it. Any excuse can be thrown out there as a reason. They don't want to get hurt or establish any emotional attachment.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Eharmony - Knowing What You Are Buying ? Posted: 3/30/2009 10:52:31 PM
When I found out after joining this site that the pay sites all allow profiles of non-paying members, it was a real eye opener. I never tried EH, but when I tried Match five years ago my response rate to initial emails was somewhere between 5-10%. Here, where everyone can read your email and respond to you, it's somewhere around 50%. I've also read that the majority of profiles on pay sites are of non-paying members. That's free enterprise gone horribly wrong. The pay sites make guys like Bernie Madoff proud.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

Msg: 27 (view)

unwritten rules of POF for new members Posted: 3/30/2009 2:20:44 PM
The phone call is absolutely compulsory prior to any meet-and-greet. It's the final test to see if a meet-and-greet is worth it. Without it, you're risking a lot of uncertainty, the disappearing act or the no-show. It still all comes down to the those first 15 minutes of the meet-and-greet.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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Cutting and Pasting Advice in Review Section = Banning? Posted: 3/28/2009 4:04:33 PM
Unsubstantiated reports can lead to action being taken, so I just wouldn't do it. I've learned that it takes very little for someone to report a thread or even a single post and subsequent action to be taken. I'll too vouch for the Mountain Man. He was one of the better reviewers and got sent off because one person reported him cutting and pasting.

the mcguffin

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Msg: 8 (view)

Seeing Vs. Dating what's the difference? Posted: 3/26/2009 3:05:53 PM
It goes something like this: 1. Dating 2. Seeing someone 3. Boyfriend-Girlfriend 4. Engagement 5. Marriage 6. Divorce And I didn't steal that from Ellen or Oprah.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

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First date what to take? Posted: 3/25/2009 10:08:44 PM
If it's an internet dating meet-and-greet, just bring yourself. Save the flowers for a third or fourth date - when you know there's a connection there.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

Msg: 17 (view)

Your initial message Posted: 3/25/2009 10:03:03 PM
I suspect the initial poster is broadcasting, but I'll give my two cents anyway. I don't think the profile is all that bad, although the listed profession of "producer" puts the, uh, meter in the red. You need to send more personalized messages tailored to the profile you are responding to. It's as simple as that. The example you noted is totally generic, and women will pick up on it immediately. I also suspect he's somehow recently edited his profile, as I don't see anything so horrible in the current profile that would warrant a bunch of unread/deleted.

the mcguffin

Joined: 1/23/2008

Msg: 11 (view)

Hand kissing Posted: 3/25/2009 1:07:19 PM
It's cheese city and contrived for someone you just met five minutes ago. Besides, you don't know where that hand has been. Edit: Okay, if it's someone you're seeing, then it would be alright such as in the driving scenario when a lip lock isn't very feasible.

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