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Whats the best panty dropper of a cologne a guy can wear Posted: 8/15/2005 4:14:12 PM
If you got game, you don't need cologne. If we got no game, we need cologne at least...

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is Islam an Posted: 8/15/2005 2:26:05 PM
The "purging of falsehood" must occur on an individual basis, in honesty of heart, mind, soul, of each individual...when each becomes sufficiently honest, mature and pure to do so. Fulfillment of, and maturation of soul integrity, is not a group endeavor. Martin Luther King, Jr: "You cannot legislate for virtue..." "Virtue" arising from external control is not a reliable nor lasting virtue. When the fruit is ripe, it falls. When the river has completed its journey, it must empty into the ocean. People are mature when it is their destiny to be mature. This is determined by the inner patterns and unfolding consciousness of each individual. At a certain point in the maturation process, there arises an awareness that oneself is neither ruled by nor identified with the dogmas and dictates of any terrestrial institution of religious conformity. When one has awakened to one's inner pure awareness-being, one realizes that one has much better options for this life than to participate in endless religious nitpicking...

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Question for the ladies Posted: 8/15/2005 2:11:24 PM
Sexual desire, or the desire for loving comm-union, is not monogamous, not personality-oriented, but oriented to essential experience. The desire spontaneously, and usually unconsciously, directs itself toward that which it senses may offer its fulfillment. That is, the heart (or gonads) has its reasons which the head comprehendeth not. Rather than asking 'why does this 'cheating' thing occur', another question one might ask is, 'how/why have I been socially conditioned to judge and blame when the innately conscious forces of sexual nature are moving through our bodies in the manner which they often do?' One may as well ask, 'why does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?' Why? Why? Why????? 'Why' is perhaps an irrelevant question. Perhaps a more relevant question is "Why question when a sun acts as a sun...why question when a bird acts as a bird?...why question when a rabbit acts as a rabbit?...why question when a gonad acts as a gonad?...instead of acting the morally superior judge and falsely making a holier-than-thou ethical issue out of it. To accept the reality of reality is to be sane; to deny the nature of reality is to be insane. For greater peace, health, sanity, and wholeness, simply resign as general manager of the universe and all other life-forms. Why would a free person act as a prisoner? Why would a person with a living, beating, feeling heart...force themself to ignore their heart? "Friends, families, lovers, relations...these are all like people you meet on a bus journey---everyone gets ON at a different stop, and everyone gets OFF at a different stop; the only one who is ALWAYS with you, the only one who NEVER leaves you, is your own true inner sublime Real essence-ial Self/Reality." -- Ammachi, Mata Amritanandamayi (paraphrase)

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REALITY, who knows what it is? Posted: 8/15/2005 1:45:54 PM
From another view...perhaps Reality doesn't drive people insane...perhaps acceptance of Reality is sanity, and non-acceptance of Reality is insanity. Some say the purpose of external reality is to drive us inside...to a clearer understanding of the real crux of reality, in consciousness...not in temporal forms, not in fleeting vehicles, and ephemeral empires of outer form and identity, but rather inner pure conscious awareness of essential ISness. perceptual "reality" is always in quotation marks, always according to the position of the observer...these relative realities are always shifting, changing, passing, birthing, dying...but Real Reality abides without effort without any external support, neither aging nor diminishing nor expanding nor coming nor going...this Reality simply ever IS, while all else is briefly and unsustainably superimposed upon this awesomely subtle backdrop of pure conscious awareness/Knowing/being/Is-ing/Ah-hahing... Clearly, there is little concern here whether or not you can grok or relate to the above...but if you've had an experience of consciousness beyond the physical ego-body, you might be able to relate..

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leaving this site, goodbye Posted: 8/3/2005 4:29:17 PM
@mi sez: Please...How can anyone not meet someone on here??? WL sez: i wonder if the situation with love's abundance in one's life is kinda like the situation with the abundance of money, i.e., for those of us who were raised in the midst of a bunch of it, it seems quite simple & natural to have a bunch of it, and the more one has, and the more one gives...then the more one has. And for some of us who were raised where it was offered far less abundantly and regularly, there is a long-term habit of being without it, not understanding it well, and perhaps even becoming uncomfortable when it shows up...?

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..bad religion..blind people. Posted: 8/1/2005 2:20:01 AM
crayne689: "God called me once, all he did was laugh and hang up. What do you think that means?" Q: In what context? How did God call you? At night while asleep? By phone? If so, how did you answer the phone? Were you frightened, defensive, angry, or...? That might be why God laughed.

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is Islam an Posted: 7/31/2005 6:10:44 PM
Have we come across any experts on the way of Islam in this thread? I mean, any person who has actually devoted 30 years of their life to understanding the heart of the religion and the culture? (I assume 30 years would give a substantial reality-based perspective). I'm aware of many who have professed themselves practicing Christians for decades, yet who lack direct inner experience of the sublime reality to which Jesus referred...and so they twist their shallow religious beliefs (e.g., Shakespeare: "she wears her religion but as the fashion of her hat.") into support for war, into anti-abortion violence, into sectarian arrogance and division, etc., etc. Yet persons who don't even have a mature understanding of the reality-based underpinnings of their own religion, squawk as if they actually knew the underlying reality of the culture of Islam. At the very least, try studying the religion, try kneeling in collective prayer five times a day, going without food or water from sunrise to sunset for 30 days...before pretending you have any real idea that you actually KNOW what you're claiming or blaming. You can be sure that beneath every religious form there exists a pure formless, nameless, eternal, conscious, life-giving, loving force...and this wondrously pure essence cannot be held culpable for humanity's limited interpretations and expressions thereof. No religious form is perfect, for the form is merely the outer shell---the temporal, fallible structure of human fabrication which attempts to convey the pure sweet essence of a Reality that is beyond names, words, forms. The purity of the innate essential Real is inevitably tainted, corrupted in the attempt to translate its energy and expression through an outer form or structure such as religion and religious dogma.

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..bad religion..blind people. Posted: 7/31/2005 4:17:43 PM
The expression of one, pure, primary truth can lay a whole ocean of misleading false beliefs to rest. All religions are B.S., i.e., Belief Structures, Belief Systems... Yet all forms and structures arise from the pure ageless ever-present Reality. So actually there is a deep kernel of truth in religion, but the institutionalized surface conceptual (mis-)interpretations and structures superimposed by the human ego-mind upon this awesome ineffable ever-presence cannot lead one to freedom from limitation, but generally enslave people's minds to the point of their becoming little more than sheeple in the herd. This snare of religion is effective in trapping only those who lack the self-awareness, self-love, and self-honesty to live from the deeper innate love, truth, freedom, honesty, serenity. Any who are willing to say, "My God is the only God and all others are sinners bound for hell, that is, we're saved and you are not, and I know this is true because this book sez so, and because, well, just look how many other sheep in our flock shout out the glory of this truth...?...so it must be true, and you solitary philosopher (lit., "truth lover") who think you have found a greater truth by yourself, you can sit out in the cold while we have communion inside." The deep abiding innermost essence is invisible to all but those who devote their heart's attention to it. As we turn our sense perceptions and minds away from the outer temporal tricks of the world, instead directing our conscious focus on the quiet inner presence, the innermost becomes thereby more accessible, more available, more real and consequential to our life, lives. Whoso latches onto the external religious form while yet lacking the conscious inner experience of the subtle yet awesomely potent primary presence, becomes little more than a clueless slave to said outer form and structure. Yet if one were to entirely re-orient one's existence on what is revealed from within, one thereby is loosened from the grip of slavery to the outer temporal world of fleeting forms. Again, isn't it a little sad to see how our lovely spicy dicey conversational exchanges can be so disrupted and interrupted by the interjection of a bit of solid, if ephemeral, truth perspective? Shooooots...we'll probly havta start another thread. Blessings from the Real...If yer heart's not in it, keep yer other parts out!

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..bad religion..blind people. Posted: 7/31/2005 4:12:28 PM
It's too easy to bash religion and religiosity, these are so infantile, so dishonest, so sadistic, so controlling, so NOT loving and NOT truthful. But, clearly, these are necessary forms of expression of certain stages of (un-)consciousness in the evolution of conscious awakening. Would anyone attempt to abolish kindergarten, first grade, second grades in school simply because one had graduated to high school oneself? No; others still need to learn the basic lessons provided in the first-grade curriculum before they can move on to second-grade, third-grade, etc. And, too, the pretense that one who can speak the word "love" or "god" actually has a direct inner awareness of the sublime reality which is being referenced thereby. The bumper sticker word lablels simply cannot touch, cannot describe, the subtle ineffable reality of existence. Awareness is the antidote to fear and slavery.

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REALITY, who knows what it is? Posted: 7/26/2005 11:40:45 AM
Yeaeaeaeh... good poem! And, also...what is/was Real, present, abiding before, after, and amidst the rising, peaking, dropping, and resting of the ball? What is/was Real, present, abiding before, after, and amidst the birth, growth, aging, and passing of any body? Sorry---clearly I'm not up on the poetic form...I suppose it's a matter of preference for substance over form and style... While one might feel an elation in reading a poem of lovely meter and alliteration; Still yet another's heart might fly in hearing the deepest truth they...uh...er...ummm....scry!!!! (???)

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REALITY, who knows what it is? Posted: 7/26/2005 2:15:23 AM
The more fleeting/temporal anything is, the more quickly we may determine it is not Real. There are countless subjective temporal realities, but one timelessly enduring abiding sublimely subtle self-sustaining Reality preceding, pervading all forms of temporal creation. Reality is always present and in effect in all times and spaces, and beyond time/space. In Reality's essence, there is no coming or going, no rising or falling, no birth or death...there is conscious isness.

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/24/2005 2:41:43 AM
Montaigne: If fifty million people say a foolish thing...it is still a foolish thing. There are a thousand hacking at the branches of darkness...to every one who is exposing its roots to the light of truth. Where all think alike, no one thinks very deeply or very much. "Rabbi, why do you keep talking to these people? They don't listen, you're never going to change them!" "My son, I don't talk to change them---I speak my truth to keep them from changing me." The first grade student finishes reading his first primer and feels so proud, like he's the smartest student in the world. He doesn't know that thousands of others have read that book before him and are now reading from books far more advanced. One of the hidden benefits of combat service is that it provides many people their first experience of having their consciousness blasted out of their body...and as they rise above their apparently lifeless body, they realize that they still exist yet without the body...that realize now that they are of a deeper timeless deathless essence than the physical body. Voila! Instant spiritual self-awareness beyond the body, without any of the trappings of religious dogma...just pure experience! They also realize that everything concerned with the care of the body is suddenly far less important---there's so so so much more waiting beyond the stars... Most importantly, they now have the perspective which makes it clear to them that life is precious and in greater hands, and one need never play war games again.

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/22/2005 5:10:33 AM
Good idea, let's stay on topic. In regard to instituting a draft in the United States, it sounds a very bad idea because in many cases it would be attempting to force people to do something that haven't the slightest desire to do. But...America is spozed to be the land of the free! DDDuuuuhhhhhhhh! That being the case, those who want to fight, those who believe in fighting, those who glorify fighting, those who aren't of the consciousness yet to realize that loving and sharing is a far more enjoyable and intelligent way to spend one's precious life...these righteous dudes ought to be supported in their desire to go be a slave in the military and to "be all that their commander orders them to be", including being bloodied and blown to bits while blowing other humans to bits...and other similar good-karma activities like that. Brothers mutt, medic, you and I have no argument, none at all. I support you in living the life that you believe to be most valuable to you, and trust you realize that this means that the universe will put you face-to-face with someone who is your reflection and feels/acts the same toward you as you toward them. IOW, you'll both be asking the universe to bring you together for the purpose of wasting each other. Done. Kaput. And after your conscious awareness is separated from your lifeless physical vehicle, you'll realize what a useless, purposeless, wasted thing you have done with that precious life given you by the Source Force Love. You cannot choose and decide what life I shall live, anymore than I can choose and decide what you "should" do with your life. It's preposterous, irrelevant. Each of us has ultimate responsibility for one and only one soul, one life, each our own. When each of us begins to focus soley, maturely and responsibly on each our own life, then we may begin to become more responsible for all our life's choices. In the great universal continuum of expanding life awareness and consciousness, people who would waste their precious incarnation on war are way down toward the beginning of the life school curriculum. Starve a war, and thereby feed and free all humanity; feed a war, and thereby starve and enslave all humanity.

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/21/2005 9:55:47 PM
PBMutt, Everybody's heart, brain, and mind is operating perfectly. That is, where love, truth, and peace have been sown, the result in the heart, mind, life and experiences of that being is...voila!...love, truth and peace! And, on the same principle, where a being has been raised and programmed in an atmosphere of anger, fear, blame, violence, punishment ...the programmed and predictable result is...ta-dah!...anger, fear, blame, violence, recriminations. And, of course, from each individual's perspective, their perspective is the 'one accurate and correct perspective', and obviously every one else is delusionary, wrong. What each fails to realize is that each their own perspective is accurate and perfect for them, based on their own life experience and conditioning, but hardly applicable to everyone else. It is simply stated in the computing programming principle of: "G.I.G.O.: Garbage In, Garbage Out. Of course, equally true, and a far more desireable expression of the same principle would be: L.I.L.O (Love In, Love Out), or N.I.N.O. (Nurturing In, Nurturing Out), or H.I.H.O (Happiness In, Happiness Out), or... I'm sure you get the principle. Peace is possible. Truth-sharing is possible. Love is possible. But only for those who align themselves with these ideals and intentions and practices. Those who have not yet experienced that shift in themselves often don't think it possible. But...once one gets a taste of the sweetness and peace awaiting in a more expansive perspective, it is difficult to go back to the old (violent) way of being. And, apparently, the process never ever ever ever ends...

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/21/2005 7:02:35 PM
It's very clear by the way the dialogue keeps spiralling downward, that all our lives--- despite the stated ideals of America, the "land of the free, home of the brave"---we have for some deplorable reason not had sufficient models and opportunities nor have we been sufficiently supported and encouraged to become deeply and consistently proficient at actually practicing the tolerance, open-mindedness and respect for different people and differing points of view. Were we to stop and do a checkupand tune-up on our stated principle ideals, we might see that America has never been able to actually support these, nor live up to these ideals. People argue and fight and fear and kill and curse each other repeatedly. 99+% of Americans are deeply and largely unconsciously conditioned to, and inured to, violence and violent behavior. It's nearly impossible to express a view on a net message board that supports sanity, serenity, tolerance, self-responsibility, do unto others, live and let love...and not be instantly and harshly flamed for it by veterans who forgot to reclaim their halthy psyches, hearts and minds upon their release from military service. It takes either extreme density or dishonesty to have actully served military time and not realized that nobody ever died for liberty, truth, peace, love, democracy...nobody ever died for a genuine ideal. True ideals necissitate not killing or dying, but rather require actually living, loving, sharing and mutually nurturing for same. If America stands for freedom, then everybody would always have, and would always have had, their own choice...in everything. If one wants to believe lies and go to war to make war contractors and petroleum executives wealthier, then go to war. If you wanna share universal truth and peace, then be free in that. If you wanna give birth to a child, do that. If you don't want to give birth to a child, then don't.(Make love, not babies!) Why does everyone seem always so set on making rules and controlling the behaviors of others if this is the land of the free? Methinks those who keep trying to control and rule others have simply found themselves incapable of tending to the single soul for which they are truly responsible: each one's own. For greater peace of mind, simply resign as general manager of the universe. As Einstein remarked: Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/19/2005 4:55:10 PM
Dan Quixote wrote: yeah, that's the way they used to think during the Viet Nam war... wound up losing the war, millions of heroin addicts when they came back and maybe a thousand officers shot in the back... great idea. [in regard to the idea of scooping up urban punks and gangstahs and inducting them into military service] WL replies: And it also illustrates a lesson in how the freedom-loving sane person might respond if/when the draft is again activated: It is very very very very difficult, from any angle, to justify sending anyone into the military or war who refuses to bend over and take it. I can't count how many personal tales have been related to me by men whose draft number came up during the Viet Nam war, but who nevertheless didn't get sucked into the maelstrom of merciless military insanity. How, exactly? The particular methods are myriad and vastly creative, but more important is the principle behind the myriad particulars: trust your god with your life...don't be a docile servile sheeple toward the military drones, don't acquiesce, don't sign any portion of your life away on any of their dotted lines, don't give them the rope with which to destroy you. Be very clear that if they make the mistake of attempting to put you onto the battlefield, it would be a grave disservice to the morale of your armed units. On the battlefield you need highly disciplined, skilled, integrated teamwork to survive and to accomplish your mission---you can't afford to put me into your gameplan. Of course, military personnel are not known for, and don't get paid for listening to reason. So, they likely won't hear you. But I'd say it is important, nevertheless for you to speak your truth as well as not giving them an inch of your life...because you know, if you give them an inch, they will then just suck you all the way in until there's nothing of you left alive. Ha! So many people...idiots...think of 'courage' as following orders to go kill, maim, torture and rape other fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, sisters, brothers, babies in other countries...thereby, incidentally, revealing utter ignorance of every primary spiritual principle exemplified or espoused by any real spiritual teacher, whether Jesus or Buddha or Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. A far greater example of the mature and genuine courage arising from innate principles of integrated self-truth awareness was that of Mohammad Ali when he allowed himself to be jailed and stripped of his heavyweight boxing title before he would prostitute himself for the purposes of American corporate interests in Southeast Asia. Dear Innate God-Self, bless us all with...simple sanity.

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OH MY GOD! A DRAFT!!!! Posted: 7/19/2005 4:32:30 PM
Writer wrote: If everyone who is pro-war would enlist and enocourage those w/similar beliefs to do likewise, (as opposed to just talking about it) there would be no need for one! WL replied: If everyone would wake up and realize that the terrible, maimed, crippled offspring and vibrational results of the utter insanity of war, once imposed upon a land, may not depart from its sorrowful soil for many generations... If everyone realized the depth of stupidity necessary to conceive for one moment that fighting will produce or preserve any thing remotely approaching genuine peace, health, liberty, upliftment, happiness, righteousness, balance, justice, beauty for anyone or anything... A soldier is not a citizen, a soldier is a slave, government property, denied the liberty to follow their own inner truth, but instead commanded to follow orders...orders to kill other human beings, and in the process to receive the perfect karmic result of being killed oneself. Soldiers assume they have been granted legal permission to commit homicide...in actuality they are merely participating in mass ignorant suicide.

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Let ME analyze your profile for you Posted: 7/18/2005 5:36:39 AM
Dear Arachnonymph, I would hereby like to submit a suggestion/recomendation/request before this forum that you, dear Spiderwoman---since you are so so so keen on the importance of photo-images---that you post a clearer, better photo of yourself, one that does much more justice to the vibrant, living system of charismatic energy, intelligence, and smoldering sensuality that you are. Unless, of course, you are purposely trying to hide/disguise that. Thanks for your consideration of this important matter. Aloha, WholeyLove

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Let ME analyze your profile for you Posted: 7/11/2005 11:21:51 AM
Spiderwoman, Clearly, you are the GIVER in many relationships. I suspect you aren't paid what you're worth. That often is the situation with any person among us who doesn't realize their worth. As such, here is an offer for you: If you send your birth day, month, year and time, I'll send you some feedback from some reference sources I have which use astrology (western and Chinese) and numerology to provide insight into why the universe made you just as you are, how unique from all others you are, and what traits you may share with others of God's special ones such as yourself. As you've "scratched my back" and the backs of many others, I consider it appropriate to scratch your back a bit in return. Though you and I aren't romantic partner-mates, there are some very interesting psychological points---further time-saving, clarifying tools---that are revealed in a study of one's birthdate/time, which not only clarify self-identity, but compatibility with any potential partner. So, it's your turn to receive, if you'd like. I'm also moved to suggest that you provide a method for people to offer you some real monetary benefits in return for all your time, specialized intelligence, energy, and service. Alohas, WholeLove We each have our specialties, hm? I haven't even figured out how to use the emoticons on the sidebar of this page yet!

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Introduce Yourself Here. Posted: 7/4/2005 12:55:45 PM
Aloha...from Jeffrey in upcountry Maui, 45, lover of ever-deepening truth-love-awareness-being...if you imagine my photo-image being slim, simply-garbed, with some smoldering energies of Scorpio-Libra-Sadge-Earth Boar-33/6, and surrounded by books...you're close to accurate. ;) Aloha.

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Let ME analyze your profile for you Posted: 7/4/2005 12:15:03 PM
Hello,SW, Though I don't generally concern myself with what others think of me as I follow my own deeper sense of appropriateness/truthfulness, I am moved to solicit your critique of my profile posting. I may or may not be moved to change it in response to your perceptions, but it is always interesting to learn through what lenses others view this existence. Perhaps you're familiar with the remark: "People say I'm living in my own world---well, whose world am I spozed to be living in, anyway?!!" Blessednesses.

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