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 rearguard*2
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Msg: 185 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/17/2015 9:15:08 AM

Do you mean a successful relationship has nothing to do with fate magically matching two people who are perfect for each other


Yep. That is what I mean. Its the reason I have no restrictions on who can contact me, and why I would never sign up to a paid site. All this red flag stuff is about you, not about the others.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 182 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/17/2015 6:24:37 AM
I think the point being missed here is that relationships are a creative endeavour. The two of you create what is the relationship. Its not something that is done to you or something that is governed by one or the other half of the couple. Its a joint project, and it succeeds or fails based on the decisions and actions of the partners.

What another person is like opens the door to initial appeal, but once in bed together, the rest is what you both create.

You can probably live happily ever after with anybody if both of you can and do dedicate yourselves completely to making your partner happy.

Its called love.......
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 361 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/17/2015 4:48:21 AM
You find the perfect mate amongst the people you get to meet in life. Historically, most people found a mate within a 2 mile radius of where they were born. Today, with the internet, you can meet people scattered over the world, so, you find the perfect mate in Australia or Buenos Aires. The issue is you decide on who is perfect. There are loads of "good ones" within walking distance, but you will never find them on the net. You have to get out and walk.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 142 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/16/2015 10:00:12 AM

I think some bitter grapes in here.


Wow! And they say there is no hard evidence of visits by extra-terrestrials!

Frankly, if I was in a relationship with a person who spent paragraphs extolling my virtues to complete strangers on the internet, I would wonder about the reasons that person felt the need to do so. Any person I am in a relationship with is, in my opinion, just exactly what I think is perfect for me at that time, and I could care less about impressing others, especially others I don't know personally, by lauding my partner's qualities, financial assets or any other aspects of that person.

To be quite plain, I could care less about your opinions about my SO. I don't need the approval of stranger to justify my decisions as to my relationships.

When I see repeated, extensive elaboration by someone about their SO, all I think is that that person is very insecure about the way they are perceived.

To me its like the guys that feel they have to insist their g/fs always dress in a flashy/sexy manner whenever they go out in public. Loving their woman is not enough. They need to feel justified in the envy or others. Its objectification. Its degrading. Its sexist. Its appalling.

I am glad that people find their ideal SO. I hope that things work out to their expectations. I have seen the kind of pattern I see here before, and I think it only indicates some form of social insecurity, and a pretty bad form if one depends on the opinions of strangers from across the world to feel good about ones SO.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 138 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/16/2015 7:45:45 AM
All this stuff about hundreds of meets, (dates? suitors?...) appears to apply equally to both the male and female elements in this thread. Need to move on from the judgmental aspects, IMO. If it takes hundreds, it only means you are very selective (you should be) and not in any hurry. So what?

I do think it somewhat odd, however, to see posters going on at length as to how wonderful their SO is. I mean, stating that the person is a perfect fit is one thing, but going into minute details of personal interaction? Make it sound hollow, somehow.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 136 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/16/2015 7:37:57 AM
No, no. You don't want to rumble with motown.....

Or anybody else for that matter. This is a video game for bored adults.....keep perspective.....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 102 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/15/2015 12:54:07 PM
Of course, I always wish for the best for people, but I do confess to being leery of those who profess loudly as to how wonderful their life is going to be. I have seen more than a few on POF whose dreams failed to manifest in reality.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 82 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/15/2015 7:37:57 AM
Well, I think that the idea of being entitled would be better described as a feeling about what a person thinks is suitable for them in a relationship. The word itself has problems. Generally, I think along the same lines as you do, mowtown.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 80 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/15/2015 7:19:58 AM

i guess you didn't get that i was being facetious


Oh yeah, I got it. Its the entire thread that is bizarre, so I just thought to try to inject some sanity. I figure everybody gets pretty much exactly what they are entitled to as most keep trying until they do. People have to realize that it isn't someone else's fault for whatever. Its either your fault, or nobody's fault.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 78 (view)
 
what is more important to the older woman in a boyfriend?
Posted: 4/15/2015 6:55:05 AM

i'm entitled to a wealthy man myself.


Hmmmm...let's say you find one and land him. What, exactly would you do with him? Go shopping all the time with his credit card? Hire a permanent car service? Become a high maintenance woman? Join the jet set?

Personally, I find that beyond the amount of money needed to live comfortably, all the rest of that stuff is of really little interest at this age. I have shopped, flown, been driven, eaten out and whatever to the extent that I really find it all bores me to tears. Having someone to bike, hike, jog, swim, sail, ski and cuddle up to on cold nights is much more interesting, and "rich" doesn't really add much to those aspects, although "poor" might be a bit of a constraint in some instances.

As to "few and far apart", I find that if you do lead an active lifestyle, you are literally tripping over active women all the time, if, indeed, you are in good enough shape to keep up with them. Otherwise, you have to wait until one slows down a bit so you can make a move......
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 347 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/14/2015 5:47:33 AM
The simple fact is that young beautiful women eventually want to have children in the usual course of events. Some older men actually do wish to have second or third families, so they are pretty well stuck with funding a young beautiful mate. However, I believe that once you have done 1 batch of children, you really would prefer to not do another batch, and in that context, you want either a young beautiful woman that is sterile, or more reasonably, a post-menopausal female that you can relate to, talk with, share experiences with and who will make a future together with you. Yes, playboy models appeal to the eye, but you really would not want them for more than a wild weekend or so....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 331 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/13/2015 1:04:38 PM

I stand down.


WHAT! What about equal rights, feminism, strong, independent minded women,.....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 328 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/13/2015 10:45:14 AM
I think it was the Greeks who showed that it is impossible to observe motion, you can only deduce it. That is the fundamental issue. Motion is only ever an interpretation of position sampling. This is really what Heisenberg was saying. That has nothing to do with randomness in any direct sense, but it does give leave to the vulgar interpretation of the word.

In any event, I really can't see how the periodic fixations that manifest as infatuation between the lovers can be anything but random, within, albeit, somewhat similar demographic. While the idea of a somewhat exotic mate appeals, its usually the "girl next door" type that ends up sticking over the long haul.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 325 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/13/2015 5:34:01 AM
Deb, I am hopelessly in love with you....

However, yours is the logic that would need work. Its long been shown that Causality can not apply to everything, and in fact, does not. That means that there
is a limit to predictability, and as Heisenberg theorized, its related to the precision of observation. The word random is loosely used to describe unpredictability, which is likely why Uncertainty is a better usage. In any event, any man will tell you that even after millenia of close observation, there is no predicting what a woman will do next....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 290 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/11/2015 8:10:52 AM
The main reason people are not married is that whenever the opportunity has presented itself, they have declined. People who are married accepted the opportunity and worked to make it happen. All the other rationalizations you see in these forum posts are just self justification. If you like your life, just live with it. If you want to change it, opportunity arrives daily, and if you look for it, you will find it.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 284 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/11/2015 5:41:44 AM

The basis of all existence is that nothing is random.


Hmmmm...a believer in the Principle of Causality.....

Heisenberg would have turned you in for all the killing you would have done.....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 274 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/10/2015 10:49:45 AM
Clearly, the discussion demonstrates that women prefer to surrender to the emotions of hedonism rather than succumb to the lure of intellect. Don't bring up the Uncertainty Principle before exhausting the traditional approaches, which, according to Disney are "Flowers, chocolates and promises you don't intend to keep!"

The wave equation not real!!! Its the basis of all existence!
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 38 (view)
 
The older the man the more critical and judgmental he is....
Posted: 4/9/2015 2:36:57 PM
If you can't become friends with your mate, your relationship won't last too long, IMO.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 268 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/9/2015 2:33:12 PM
^^Many men under 50 as well.

In fact, pretty well all men, I suspect....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 266 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/9/2015 7:16:18 AM
Actually, I have found that concentrating on women that want me to be a lot more helpful than worrying about what I want. Its usually a waste of time to go after women who are not interested, regardless of age, looks, money or other characteristics. You can always filter out those who are interested based on whatever criteria.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 260 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/8/2015 6:51:11 AM

A connection on an intellectual, emotional, and physical level is the ideal.
Amen and hallelujah! You totally nailed it.


Yes, indeed. However, I have found it rather difficult to discuss Quantum Physics with a woman who is crying with joy while I am making love to her.

Its just such an elusive goal....sigh....While I am asking for their views on the Copenhagen consensus, all I get back is something like: " ... more....don't stop ......"
So, I just keep on expounding about the collapse of the wave equation and why that does not satisfy me intellectually, but the women don't usually articulate their own views in any depth......
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 255 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/7/2015 12:56:29 PM

Had one recently want to be my "house husband" and said he would join me as soon as I sent him the money allowing him to travel.


Okay, Deb, how about if I pay my own way there?
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 31 (view)
 
I am to chicken to even date, is anyone else having this problem?
Posted: 4/7/2015 10:31:23 AM

I am discovering that there is a good reason men my age are single.


There are good reasons why anybody is divorced. It always takes 2 to tango. You can easily apply this to women.

My own view is that most people are divorced because they had neither the skills nor knowledge as to how to make a perfectly good relationship work.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 251 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 4/7/2015 10:26:06 AM
Scammers have discovered what a fair number of 50 plus men want: Messages from a person claiming to be a woman that looks like a Penthouse centerfold who wants to be your friend. Apparently, quite a few of us lonely old geezers are happy to send them money to help out with various expenses as long as the scammer professes a deep affection for older men and promises a cornucopia of pleasures of the flesh.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 409 (view)
 
Men in this age group and money
Posted: 4/2/2015 10:54:29 AM
I noticed some time ago that a lot of the women who have profiles on this and other dating sites are also on several sites which advertise as being for women looking for a Sugar Daddy situation. If you check the requirements on these sites, the women go from being people searching for a soul mate and an honest, faithful relationship to seeking a man with an income over 150K who is generous and likes to travel.

Its free to ask, so why not?
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 428 (view)
 
Does it matter if he lies about his age
Posted: 4/1/2015 7:39:05 AM
^^^^Yes, but half the people on these sites lie about their age, and other things. Who is left to date? It takes a date or two to get to the bottom of the lies.
 rearguard*2
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I am to chicken to even date, is anyone else having this problem?
Posted: 4/1/2015 7:36:25 AM
Good grief! What is the worst that can happen on a lunch date or a drink date? You have to pay the bill?

Get a grip. Being alone all the time is no fun.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 114 (view)
 
Is there anybody that is really happy in their lives?
Posted: 3/30/2015 6:36:34 AM
All I see in these posts is a bunch of people who want nothing but to be themselves and are terrified of being something else involving being in a relationship.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 329 (view)
 
time has taken a toll
Posted: 3/27/2015 7:45:02 AM
Well, its true that many people make themselves unhappy for reasons that true life problems will render trivial. I find Dee refreshingly sane on the forums. Its also true however that some people create their depressions because their mental state is in disorder, and can't really self correct. Its very hard to deal with this even when you have a strong connection with the people involved, and no amount of reason appears to help.

The vast majority of forum participants appear to me to be unhappy about relationship development simply because they can't get out of themselves. You can't be us while you are still you, and if you are more important than us, you will never get to being us. They are unhappy with themselves, actually.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 368 (view)
 
Men in this age group and money
Posted: 3/26/2015 8:37:48 AM
I don't get the point of this discussion. Is it not true that everyone will go for the partner that appeals most to them? Is it not normal that this is the case? Is it not the case that a man or woman who responds sexually to a possible mate indicating more than a passing enthusiasm for the other person? What is the point of the exchange? People should go for partners that don't appeal to them and who don't respond sexually because, deep down inside, those possible mates are really beautiful people who shine beyond their looks and social skills?

It isn't going to happen. For $1000 you will always choose the car without any rust that starts on the first crank. If it wasn't like that, clunkers with a dead battery, broken window and rusted out fenders and doors would be selling for $1500.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 362 (view)
 
Men in this age group and money
Posted: 3/26/2015 6:01:49 AM
Personally, I rather enjoy going out to dinner with a woman, and would only do it if I can afford it. Even if the "chemistry" is not there, it still an interesting experience to meet someone new and spend long enough with them on a one on one basis to fully appreciate their impact. I have never considered it a waste of anything, always have a good meal, and have the feeling that I am not owed anything. It actually leave me in control of the situation, as I decide if anything further is going to happen, and even if I decide against, I have no issue as the woman has had at the very least a good meal in the company of someone who is articulate, polite and doesn't smell bad. Its my gift to her in exchange for the pleasure of her company in what would otherwise be a silent and solitary experience.

People need to get out of their own minds.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 102 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/26/2015 5:49:11 AM
^^^^I think I am beginning to see where the female vitriol is coming from.......
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 83 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/25/2015 12:35:45 PM

Do you know how rare that is?


Really, LH, I am an old person like you, and have loads of experience in the game of life. I do hope things work for you and John. My main point is that love is not hard to find if you are open to making it happen, and while I myself like intelligent, interesting, healthy partners, I do know that in any cooperative endeavour, like love, evaluative and judgmental approaches are only self-serving and counter-productive approaches that will doom the efforts.

The reality of life is that the vast majority of people find successful relationships without too much trouble. Its also true that through the eyes of love a persons perception of their significant other rarely coincides with an objective description of the object of affection. When people bind, they also merge from me and you to us.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 71 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/25/2015 6:47:19 AM
Well, there is no responsibility in this issue, and of course it is well known that other medical issues, booze, pills, and general level of fitness do all play a part in ED. However, sexual response is also a function of mutual interaction. We have all experienced sex where one or the other partner is not into it at the time. I am not placing any blame, siply observing that if the feelings are not mutual, it gets harder for it to happen at all. People can and do compensate for things like vaginal dryness. There are options.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 69 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/25/2015 6:07:49 AM

Interesting that younger women assume older men have problems with sexual arousal. I must have been dating the Viagra for lunch bunch because I've not met one 50+ yet that had any problem whatsoever in that department.


I have been told that sexual problems are strongly associated with age. While it is true that I am much less obsessed with sex than I used to be, I don't need Viagra and am amazed at the level of reports of men with performance issues. I am a firm believer in the thought that the response of a partner has a lot to do with the response of the other partner.

So far..
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 68 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/25/2015 5:59:42 AM
Well, LH, you remind me of a good friend who would write a profile pretty well identical to yours. She is somewhat down the road from you in life, but her relationship history is pretty similar, her educational background similar, and her activity profile similar. In her case, the net result is she has remained single for the last 30 odd years, always finding her suitors somehow unsatisfactory. Of course, its always a choice, and she always chooses her life over anything that deviates in any way to accommodate a significant other. Nothing at all wrong with that. She is out there hiking the Sierras, etc, and she is quite happy.

My point is simply that she is not really looking for a relationship, and has successfully not found one. Given her situation, her intelligence, her economic independence, and the social structure she is embedded within, it is not at all hard to understand her situation and choices. Its quite rare for anyone with a well developed life without external or internal pressures to find a truly compatible mate. In her case, she would readily admit that any relationship would have to be fairly casual, satisfying intellectual, sexual and companionship needs, but nothing that changes the basis of her life.

You indicate you are seeking a relationship, but exactly what does that mean to you? What would you be prepared to change to be in a relationship? Its all very well to ask what men want, but more relevant to state what a woman is prepared to offer, and what level of commitment to success she is willing to pursue.

Too many people sit back with a filter in front of them and then wonder why it is that they only find unsatisfactory candidates. Relationships are a creative endeavour by both parties. The fail when one or the other party stops at a barrier.
 rearguard*2
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“window shopping”
Posted: 3/24/2015 3:24:10 PM

I always said that if people were really THAT 'desperate' then they would have found someone already....


Yep. That has been my experience with people. If your single for more than a few months, you want it that way. There are just too many perfectly good people out there actively looking to connect and form a relationship.
 rearguard*2
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Age difference up or below by how much ??
Posted: 3/24/2015 2:46:24 PM
Here is a suggestion, if you meet someone with whom you get along well, have a good time in their company, who fits into your idea of the lifestyle you like to live, with whom you can have easy conversation and an enjoyable sex life, go out with them. If age is going to be an issue, you will not have to ask the question, you will know the answer. The only things I see as immediate limits are the legal ones (no minors) and the question of whether you want to have children. Men need a pre-menopausal woman to have children. Aside from that, if you perceive someone as disgusting, repulsive, old, feeble, decrepit of otherwise unsuitable, don't go out with them. (Think about it...its a concept!)

If you still are having a hard time, the guy running this site is an expert on relationships, and he has decreed the limits for contact on the site. You can always live with those limits provided automatically for you. Unless, of course, the people in your range have lied about their age, something which is rather blatant on dating sites, according to the published studies on internet dating. In which case, revert back to my previous proposal.......
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 55 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/24/2015 11:26:12 AM
What can I say. It appears that most of the men on dating sites are of a type and character that is completely beyond my own personal experience in life. I guess the dating site enables these people to get out there and interact in a way that was not all that easy before dating sites existed.

Mind you, I have never found very many possibly compatible women by browsing the ads on these sites. Maybe 3 or 4 out of the hundred that show up as "matches".
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 48 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/24/2015 8:28:30 AM

It's pretty common to hear this sorts of numbers, lilliMartin and cowboy had the same sort of numbers.


Well, I suppose it would depend on how you define a meeting, however, for me, the prospect of meeting 150 women to find 1 suitable match, and then not succeeding, kind of makes me think that online dating is a complete waste of time, money and effort. In R/L you can certainly meet hordes of people, but I don't think I ever dated more than 3 or 4 before connecting into a relationship that went on for years. I certainly would not be classifying all the women I passed on the street on the way to work as "meetings" in the sense of the hunt for happiness.

If I went on dates with 150 women at my age, I would probably be physically, financially and emotionally exhausted, and have switched teams.....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 43 (view)
 
What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/24/2015 5:45:32 AM

I've met 125 to 150 men ages 50-65 through online dating.


Hmmmmm....and not one a good prospect for a relationship? Either strictly a serial dater of remarkably unlucky.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 149 (view)
 
What Not to Wear at this Stage?
Posted: 3/23/2015 1:35:50 PM
Lots of women over 50 wear bikinis and look just fine. I don't think its age, its physique, and your attitude towards your physique.
 rearguard*2
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What do 50+ men want?
Posted: 3/23/2015 1:28:13 PM
Hassle free relationship with a woman that is happy to be with me, does not have a load of issues, isn't completely broke, is not basically crazy about cats, and is in reasonable physical shape. Enough education to be coherent in discussions of current events, and one that does not dream of bus tours or cruises.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 127 (view)
 
What Not to Wear at this Stage?
Posted: 3/13/2015 6:19:50 AM
Long hair at any age is appealing if its well kept and whatever the color. Older women have bodies that can be just as appealing as those of younger women.

Dress to your comfort. Forget the rest.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 177 (view)
 
I am having trouble dating
Posted: 3/12/2015 7:22:43 AM

Who even THINKS that ANY grown woman thinks like that?!?!?!


What you go to realize, Dee, if that this site and especially these forums are filled with all kinds of people who concern themselves with anything but the aspects of relationships that matter. Red flags, the cost of coffee and whether women have children trump the sense of harmony of soul that flows from a meeting with someone who wants to make a good life together.

You got to do something to meet. It almost always costs money. If it ain't worth it, caress your keyboard, fondle your mouse, and fill your coffee much from your Keurig.....
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 166 (view)
 
Women on POF with kids
Posted: 3/12/2015 7:13:43 AM
Who care if women have kids or not. Its kind of normal for people to have children, and there are many benefits to being associated with women or men who have children, if you like the family experience. Even if you don't like family life, they are not your kids, so its all about the relationship you have with the other person. It may not be 100% perfect according to your own needs at some particular time in life, but nothing ever actually is, and kids grow up and move away, so if things work out over the long run, life can be great!
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 123 (view)
 
What Not to Wear at this Stage?
Posted: 3/12/2015 7:07:21 AM
I always presume that everyone who is dating is interested in finding a sexual partner. Otherwise, why bother dating?

So, if you are interested in finding a sexual partner, dress in the fashion that you think will attract someone who is interested in the same level of sexual involvement as you prefer.

In my experience, different people find different dress styles appealing, so if you have a preferred dress style, you will attract someone who finds that style sexy, whatever that style happens to be. If you find you are not getting the desired level of interest, either change dating circles (i.e. change dating site, social environment, job, city, church), or change your style.
 rearguard*2
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Is there anybody that is really happy in their lives?
Posted: 3/3/2015 6:27:00 AM
Yep, life is pretty good. While there have been several bad patches over the years, things always get better, and if you learn at all from the bad times, the better times continue to improve. For me, the essential is to see the bad parts as failures to pay attention and get out of ones own head.

Its never completely perfect in every way, but nothing ever is that way, except, perhaps, some days of Spring skiing...
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 137 (view)
 
Together forever, no marriage, separate homes, finger up the ass
Posted: 2/27/2015 10:59:47 AM
I genuinely like women...love them, actually. Thing is, women who describe themselves as "independent" don't really like men who are the same way.
 rearguard*2
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Msg: 85 (view)
 
How well do you know that guy you .........
Posted: 2/27/2015 10:55:33 AM
People who think sex is a tool of control have no idea about human nature and basic market economics. It only works if you have a monopoly, and generally, you don't.
 
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