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Thread: Ron Paulers where to go ? mccain ? Obama ? nahh it would appear to Nader !
RonPaulGal
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Ron Paulers where to go ? mccain ? Obama ? nahh it would appear to Nader !
Posted:
6/16/2008 12:33:02 AM
I'm still writing in Dr. Ron Paul.
The rest of the candidates can go straight to hell - they're ALL gov't shills.
I'm voting for the ONLY candidate who could turn this country around.
I know that my conscience will be clear, knowing that I stuck by my choice.
Dayna
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
RonPaulGal
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The media said he was quitting but they lied again ! Pathetic !
Posted:
6/14/2008 10:23:10 AM
Message from Dr. Ron Paul:
Dear Supporter,
These past 17 months have been among the most exciting and eventful of my life. Together you
and I delivered a message of freedom the likes of which American politics had not seen in decades.
I wasn't sure the country was ready for it. But it was a message, I discovered, that many Americans
had been waiting for a long time to hear.
I have been blessed with the most informed, well read, and enthusiastic supporters of any presidential
campaign. Your extraordinary efforts in organizing and fundraising grabbed the attention of millions of
Americans and shocked just about everyone in politics and the media. I still cannot get over all the
fantastic work you did.
Something of great significance has just occurred in our country's history.
With the primary season now over, the presidential campaign is at an end. But the larger campaign
for freedom is just getting started. Therefore, I am happy to announce the official launch of the Ron
Paul Campaign for Liberty.
The work of the Campaign for Liberty will take many forms. We will educate our fellow Americans
in freedom, sound money, non-interventionism, and free markets. We'll have our own commentaries
and videos on the news of the day. I'll work with friends I respect to design materials for homeschoolers.
Politically, we'll expand the great work of our precinct leader program. We'll make our presence felt
at every level of government, where just a few people with our level of enthusiasm can make a world
of difference. We'll keep an eye on Congress and lobby against legislation that threatens us. We'll
identify and support political candidates who champion our great ideas against the empty suits the
party establishments offer the public.
We will be a permanent presence on the American political landscape. That I promise you. We're
not about to let all this good work die. To the contrary, with your help we're going to make it grow
- by leaps and bounds.
This is the most ambitious venture of my political career, and I think it can achieve great things.
But I can't do this alone. I need you to help me. I need your energy, your creativity, your ideas,
and your dedication.
People frustrated with our political system often wonder what they can do. I have founded this
organization to answer that question, to give people the opportunity to do something that really
makes a difference in the fight for freedom. Please join me by becoming a member of the
Campaign for Liberty. Our goal is 100,000 members by September. Can we reach it?
Our campaign netted 1.1 million votes in the primaries of a shrinking Republican Party. Millions
more support us. I need you to help me reach them - and to keep making new converts to the
cause. What a force we can be, if only we rise to the occasion.
Now what about the Republican Convention in St. Paul? Our delegates will attend, of course,
and I expect our contingent to have a visible presence there. Without disruption, we will do
whatever we can to influence the party and its platform, and return the GOP to its limited-
government roots. This is very important.
This brings me to my second announcement. I invite you to join us at Williams Arena at the
University of Minnesota on Tuesday, September 2nd, for a grand rally. We intend to draw over
11,000 people. We'll have live music and entertainment, and special guests. I'll address you
all as well. A massive rally will generate still more interest in our ideas. And what a great
time it will be.
Remember that it was Senator Robert Taft, who shared our views, who was called Mr. Republican.
But we are not merely the Republican Party's past. If the enthusiasm of young people for our
campaign is any indication, we are also its future.
Right now I will need your patience and input as we develop our program and assemble just the
right team of individuals. But it is my intention to launch the Campaign for Liberty in its full capacity
at our rally in Minneapolis this September.
Over the past week we've learned that the Democratic presidential nominee, supposedly an antiwar
candidate, is committed to the same rhetoric, the same propaganda, and the same aggressive
intentions toward Iran as the Bush administration. As usual, the major parties refuse to offer
Americans a real choice.
The Campaign for Liberty will lay the groundwork for a different America, the kind of America you
and I, and millions of our fellow countrymen, want to inhabit.
"Dr. Paul cured my apathy," a popular campaign sign read. Others said our campaign cured their
cynicism. We have now reached a moment of great moral decision: will we let ourselves retreat
into apathy and cynicism once again, or will we dig in for the long haul and fight all the harder?
Will we retire from the scene quietly, or will we give the establishment the fight of its life?
"In the final analysis," I wrote in my new book The Revolution: A Manifesto, "the last line of
defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves. If the
people want to be free, if they want to lift themselves out from underneath a state apparatus
that threatens their liberties, squanders their resources on needless wars, destroys the value
of their dollar, and spews forth endless propaganda about how indispensable it is and how lost
we would all be without it, there is no force that can stop them."
The time has come to act on these words. May future generations look back on our work and
say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to the politicians,
the opinion-molders, and the establishment, and saved their country.
Join us, and be a part of it.
For liberty,
Ron Paul
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
RonPaulGal
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Message from Dr. Ron Paul - Campaign For Liberty
Posted:
6/14/2008 10:05:51 AM
I love it. In about 24 hours, Dr. Paul already has 43,599 people
and counting signed up for his new Campaign For Liberty. He is
asking for 100,000 people to be signed up by September.
I think he'd better change that figure to 1,000,000. It does my
heart good to see so many people in this country finally WAKING UP!
Dayna
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
RonPaulGal
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Message from Dr. Ron Paul - Campaign For Liberty
Posted:
6/14/2008 10:03:50 AM
Dear Supporter,
These past 17 months have been among the most exciting and eventful of my life.
Together you and I delivered a message of freedom the likes of which American politics
had not seen in decades. I wasn't sure the country was ready for it. But it was a message,
I discovered, that many Americans had been waiting for a long time to hear.
I have been blessed with the most informed, well read, and enthusiastic supporters of any
presidential campaign. Your extraordinary efforts in organizing and fundraising grabbed
the attention of millions of Americans and shocked just about everyone in politics and
the media. I still cannot get over all the fantastic work you did.
Something of great significance has just occurred in our country's history.
With the primary season now over, the presidential campaign is at an end. But the larger
campaign for freedom is just getting started. Therefore, I am happy to announce the
official launch of the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
The work of the Campaign for Liberty will take many forms. We will educate our fellow
Americans in freedom, sound money, non-interventionism, and free markets. We'll have
our own commentaries and videos on the news of the day. I'll work with friends I respect
to design materials for homeschoolers.
Politically, we'll expand the great work of our precinct leader program. We'll make our
presence felt at every level of government, where just a few people with our level of
enthusiasm can make a world of difference. We'll keep an eye on Congress and lobby
against legislation that threatens us. We'll identify and support political candidates who
champion our great ideas against the empty suits the party establishments offer the
public.
We will be a permanent presence on the American political landscape. That I promise
you. We're not about to let all this good work die. To the contrary, with your help we're
going to make it grow - by leaps and bounds.
This is the most ambitious venture of my political career, and I think it can achieve great
things. But I can't do this alone. I need you to help me. I need your energy, your
creativity, your ideas, and your dedication.
People frustrated with our political system often wonder what they can do. I have
founded this organization to answer that question, to give people the opportunity to do
something that really makes a difference in the fight for freedom. Please join me by
becoming a member of the Campaign for Liberty. Our goal is 100,000 members by
September. Can we reach it?
Our campaign netted 1.1 million votes in the primaries of a shrinking Republican Party.
Millions more support us. I need you to help me reach them - and to keep making new
converts to the cause. What a force we can be, if only we rise to the occasion.
Now what about the Republican Convention in St. Paul? Our delegates will attend, of
course, and I expect our contingent to have a visible presence there. Without disruption,
we will do whatever we can to influence the party and its platform, and return the GOP to
its limited-government roots. This is very important.
This brings me to my second announcement. I invite you to join us at Williams Arena at
the University of Minnesota on Tuesday, September 2nd, for a grand rally. We intend to
draw over 11,000 people. We'll have live music and entertainment, and special guests. I'll
address you all as well. A massive rally will generate still more interest in our ideas. And
what a great time it will be.
Remember that it was Senator Robert Taft, who shared our views, who was called Mr.
Republican. But we are not merely the Republican Party's past. If the enthusiasm of
young people for our campaign is any indication, we are also its future.
Right now I will need your patience and input as we develop our program and assemble
just the right team of individuals. But it is my intention to launch the Campaign for
Liberty in its full capacity at our rally in Minneapolis this September.
Over the past week we've learned that the Democratic presidential nominee, supposedly
an antiwar candidate, is committed to the same rhetoric, the same propaganda, and the
same aggressive intentions toward Iran as the Bush administration. As usual, the major
parties refuse to offer Americans a real choice.
The Campaign for Liberty will lay the groundwork for a different America, the kind of
America you and I, and millions of our fellow countrymen, want to inhabit.
"Dr. Paul cured my apathy," a popular campaign sign read. Others said our campaign
cured their cynicism. We have now reached a moment of great moral decision: will we let
ourselves retreat into apathy and cynicism once again, or will we dig in for the long haul
and fight all the harder? Will we retire from the scene quietly, or will we give the
establishment the fight of its life?
"In the final analysis," I wrote in my new book The Revolution: A Manifesto, "the last line
of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves.
If thepeople want to be free, if they want to lift themselves out from underneath a state
apparatus that threatens their liberties, squanders their resources on needless wars,
destroys the value of their dollar, and spews forth endless propaganda about how
indispensable it is and how lost we would all be without it, there is no force that can stop
them."
The time has come to act on these words. May future generations look back on our work
and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to the
politicians, the opinion-molders, and the establishment, and saved their country.
Join us, and be a part of it.
For liberty,
Ron Paul
http://www.campaignforliberty.com
RonPaulGal
Joined:
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What are you doing about it?
Posted:
5/31/2008 4:52:46 PM
Thanks for starting this thread. Should be some interesting responses.
As for me, I have cut back tremendously on driving, and I canceled my
cable to shave off $80/month.
I have switched my grocery shopping from Dominick's to Aldi's, and
the savings is TREMENDOUS! The food, in my opinion, is pretty much
the same as the "name brand", but sometimes 50 to 75% cheaper. I also
take advantage of my local Dollar Tree for some items. However, be sure
to check the expiry date on anything purchased there. I get most of my
cleaning supplies and household items from Dollar Tree.
I wish I had room for a garden. However, I own a condo with no place
to have a garden. My next place will definitely be one where I can have
a garden, as well as chickens for eggs & meat. I would like to get a dairy
goat as well, for milk and cheese. Yum! That'll be coming as soon as I
can sell this place, and find some land out in the country. I want to be
as self-sustainable as possible.
Some great sites for this type of info (sustainable living):
http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl
http://www.homesteadingtoday.com
http://www.survivalistboards.com
Dayna
RonPaulGal
Joined:
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/31/2008 2:23:34 PM
Glock22shooter -
Thanks for post #45 - very insightful, and appreciated.
Helps me understand the reasoning behind the huge
increase in diesel cost, as well as the background behind
the changes to the fuel.
It seems to me the environmental lobby and Congress
did not (or would not) look at the whole picture, and
simply stuck to their narrow agenda to force the changes.
Very sad for all of us. It's now costing not only the truckers,
but all Americans through higher food prices, higher consumer
goods prices, higher everything.
Dayna
RonPaulGal
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A new type of money bomb going on today for Alex Jones.
Posted:
5/31/2008 2:10:00 PM
spearheadfish wrote:
Wanting the government to run things so u won't have to think
for urself or depend on urself for the solution.
Hmmmmm..... Well, spearheadfish - that comment right there tells
me you have no clue who Alex Jones is or the things he is fighting against.
If you did, you would know that's the exact OPPOSITE of what we stand for.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
RonPaulGal
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A new type of money bomb going on today for Alex Jones.
Posted:
5/31/2008 1:15:30 PM
fintheman wrote:
Alex Jones - acting like he knows secrets and speaking with his
special viewers like they have some special gift to see past the things that
rational people do. More so than most educated PhD and anyone with a
few ounces of common sense.
I have actually learned a lot from listening to Alex's show. Alex is very
big on saying, "don't believe me - do the research yourself". That is exactly
what I do. He informs people about what is going on in this country and in
the world, and then I follow his lead and do the research myself on these
subjects. I'm curious to know if you have actually listened to his show,
viewed any of his documentaries, or visited his websites. Links/info below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio)
Considering the fact that most of his news comes directly from Mainstream
Media, as well as government documents, I find it hard to justify your claim
that he/his listeners are not rational or have common sense. It is the people
who ARE rational and HAVE common sense who bother to do the research
for themselves, and learn the TRUTH about what is going on in our government
and in our country.
Lately, I have began to wonder if Alex needs a break from all this. His demeanor
has been increasingly volatile in the past several months. But at the same time,
I realize that
a lot
is changing in this country, and we are in the process
of coming into a total police state. It is enough to make anyone volatile. However,
I feel that his show, his documentaries, and his websites are some of the most
well-researched, informative sources for REAL news today. Check out
www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com
Also - What does a PhD have to do with anything? Is that a requirement for
common sense? I know many people who have higher educations, without a
lick of common sense. There are people in the freedom movement with
degrees, and aren't afraid to speak out. Will an Ed.D. do?
I'm referring
to Dr. Katherine Albrecht, who hosts a talk show on We The People Radio Network
Monday through Friday from 9am to 11am ET. http://www.wtprn.com
She has the following degrees:
Ed.D., Doctor of Education, Human Development and Psychology,
Harvard University Graduate School of Education
Ed.M., Masters in Education, Human Development and Psychology,
Harvard University Graduate School of Education
http://www.katherinealbrecht.com
http://www.spychips.com
I personally am glad to have found people like Alex Jones and Dr. Albrecht,
who aren't afraid to speak out, and are willing to stand up for the truth.
Why don't you keep an open mind, do your own research and maybe you
will learn a few things about our government and what is bringing our country
to its knees.
Dayna
RonPaulGal
Joined:
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What do you think of Former Press Secretary McClellan's book?
Posted:
5/31/2008 12:13:21 PM
windslow wrote:
There will not be Congressional hearings.
Please check out Montreal_Guy's post (#65). In part, it mentions:
Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Florida, said Friday that McClellan, who left the
White House in 2006, would be able to provide valuable insight into a number
of issues under investigation by the House Judiciary Committee.
The committee is looking into the use of prewar intelligence, whether politics was
behind the firing of eight U.S. attorneys in 2006 and the leaking of CIA operative
Valerie Plame Wilson's identity, Wexler, a senior member of the Judiciary Committee,
said.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/30/mcclellan.wolf.interview/index.html
I really do hope they utilize him in their investigations.
Dayna
RonPaulGal
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Ron Paul's Revenge
Posted:
5/31/2008 10:27:17 AM
budwhite wrote:
What cities have mandated gun ownership? And how has their
crime statistics changed? Do you have a link to a good source for that info?
Glock22shooter mentioned Kennesaw, GA - Greenleaf, ID & Virgin, UT as the
cities with mandatory gun ownership laws. The fourth city that he mentioned,
was Cherry Tree, PA - but they decided against passing the measure.
While none of these towns are large population centers, it's still a good law to
have on the books. If criminals know that such a law is on the books, and the
likelyhood that citizens will fight back, then invariably they will avoid those
towns.
There are statistics on Kennesaw, GA in the following article. After the article,
in the comments section, there are also tables documenting the rates/stats.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818862/posts
Now, as far as stats for the other cities, I did some Googling for stories.
Greenleaf, ID
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/16/opinion/16reynolds.html
http://www.fox12news.com/Global/story.asp?s=5437033
Interesting note about Greenleaf - 80% of residents already had firearms,
and the law is not "mandatory" but "recommended". Still, I feel that it will
deter crime, and it does make a statement.
Virgin, UT
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200109/CUL20010911b.html
This mentioned 95% of Virgin, UT residents already own guns. They also
do not have a local police force, so this law just helps solidify the fact that
if all residents are armed, and it is known, it will be a deterrent to criminals.
For this link, you need to scroll down the page a bit
http://www.cato.org/dispatch/11-06-00d.html
I included it, because it also mentioned a link to another interesting article
on Concealed Carry laws:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=1143
For the record, 48 of 50 states have some form of Concealed Carry law on the
books. The only two that do not are Illinois and Wisconsin. In addition to
Chicago's extremely high crime rate, despite the fact that handguns have been
banned in the city for years, we must deal with the fact that we are among only
two states who are unwilling to allow their residence the peace of mind of carrying
a firearm with them, or having it in their vehicle for quick access.
As an Illinois resident, and a gun owner, I am doing all I can to help stop additional
gun laws from being enacted that will further restrict our rights as law-abiding citizens.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
RonPaulGal
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The Rev. Wright Strikes Again
Posted:
5/30/2008 10:54:20 PM
2wheel, THANK YOU for posting that link.
Just when I thought our government couldn't get any more evil,
I read article in the link - A history of US secret human experimentation
If you did not follow that link, I sincerely urge you to do so. I have known
about many of the experiments/terrible things that were performed on
human beings - some without their knowledge. But this one is new to me:
1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from
Pellagra over a span of two decades, the US Public Health Service finally
acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for
at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act
since most of the deaths occurred within poverty-stricken black populations.
And we can't forget this one:
1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and Hispanic babies in Los Angeles
are given an “experimental” measles vaccine that had never been licensed for use in
the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed that the vaccine
being injected to their children was experimental.
This experiment is explained more fully via another site I found:
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/vaccinationsinUganda22dec03.shtml
"Using kids as guinea pigs in potentially harmful vaccine experiments is every parents'
worst nightmare. This actually happened in 1989-1991 when Kaiser Permanente of
Southern California and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) jointly conducted a
measles vaccine experiment. Without proper parental disclosure, the Yugoslavian
made "high titre" Edmonston-Zagreb measles vaccine was tested on 1,500 poor,
primarily black and Latino, inner city children in Los Angeles. Highly recommended
by the World Health Organization (WHO), the high-potency experimental vaccine was
previously injected into infants in Mexico, Haiti, and Africa. It was discontinued in
these countries when it was discovered that the children were dying in large numbers."
-Dr Alan Cantwell MD
--------------
Today I just read about a new bill they are trying to pass in New York - making
vaccines mandatory for children.
http://infowars.net/articles/may2008/300508vaccines.htm
It's funny, there are reports that in various communities that do not give vaccines,
such as the Amish, there is very low incidence of Autism. As you may know, Autism
is exploding throughout the country. Google Autism and Thimerosal or Mercury
and learn....
And don't even get me started on the HPV Gardasil vaccine they're pushing every
young girl to receive.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
RonPaulGal
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 5:33:38 PM
Do I unequivocally know what he would say or do in any given situation?
No one can know "for sure" what another person thinks. Which is exactly
why, in my original response, I said he would "likely" would not accept that
position.
However, do I feel comfortable in saying that -- given the fact that I have
provided two exact quotes from Dr. Paul that he would not support McCain
-- that he would not support McCain? Okay, okay, I won't say it. However,
you may draw your own conclusions, and unless you think the quotes are
lies, then it appears to me that he is saying he would not support McCain
providing his current stances.
As far as Clinton/Paul - I tend to agree with this:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/012082.html
Yes, even though this was written in January and it says, "Hillary will be the
Democratic nominee once the Obama fantasy subsides. Bet the ranch on that
one" -- I agree that she WILL, some way, some how, wind up with the nomination.
I have said from day one that Hillary Clinton is the anointed one by the elites.
One way or another, she will be the nominee. If it doesn't happen, I will be
VERY surprised.
Check out another good read....
http://www.nolanchart.com/article3836.html
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
RonPaulGal
Joined:
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 4:12:07 PM
Suth'nBoy wrote:
And neither you nor RPGurl have any idea what Paul would
either accept or reject.
I disagree Suth'nBoy. Dr. Paul has specifically stated his stance on
who he would support. He has stated, during debates, that he would
not support the other candidates he was running against, because
they had strayed so very far away from what the traditional Republican
platform is. He specifically stated that unless they came back to the
traditional Republican Conservative values, he would not be able to
support them or endorse them in any way. I had given you a direct
quotation from Dr. Paul in one of the above posts, where he stated
this position. Another direct quote is:
“I can not support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates — you
know, perpetual war… I think it’s un-American, unconstitutional, immoral,
and not Republican," Paul said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/11/ron-paul-wont-back-mccain
So please don't tell us we don't have any idea what Dr. Ron Paul would
accept or reject. We have followed our candidate very closely, and know
his stances, and know his positions - particularly in reference to the other
political candidates.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
RonPaulGal
Joined:
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 4:03:56 PM
Suth'nBoy,
I DO apologize. I was only going to take out the "A hawk?? Hardly"
thing, and deleted the retaliation thing too. Your quote, in my post,
should have read:
Clinton has never even "suggested" attacking Iran! Except in retaliation..
Regarding my "purpose" - I'm not sure what "falsified impact" is, but I
don't think that was the intent.
What I don't understand is how you can even say that she never even
suggested attacking Iran -- and then putting the "except..." part in.
Either she did, or she didn't - right?
In essense, I feel you are the one who is minimizing her words, and
misconstruing what she said. I was actually shocked and astounded
at her comments regarding Iran. Even though I knew that she had
voted FOR the war in Iraq, and has voted to continue funding the
war -- I couldn't believe my ears when she talked about obliterating
Iran. Israel has nukes. Israel has a well-trained army, and equipment.
Israel can easily defend itself.
WE HAVE NO BUSINESS getting involved in Israel's spats with other
countries. That is what is WRONG with our country. We need to mind
our own business, and stop being the world's policeman.
Dayna
RonPaulGal
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 3:09:53 PM
Suth'nBoy wrote:
Clinton has never even "suggested" attacking Iran!
WHAT???????? Suth'nBoy, you have GOT to be kidding me. Have
you been asleep this entire election cycle?
Please go to http://www.youtube.com and type in
Hillary Obliterate Iran
Or, just go to this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abJ2jbXasNg
Go to about 2:30 and listen/watch very carefully. Her words:
“I want the Iranians to know, if I am the president, we will attack Iran. And
I want them to understand that, because it does mean that they have to look
very carefully at their society, because whatever stage of development they
might be with their nuclear weapons program in the next 10 years, during which
they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to
totally obliterate them.”
Suth'nBoy - that is an EXACT QUOTE from Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Watch the video and LEARN about your candidate.
Dayna
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What's up with Father Michael Pfleger?
Posted:
5/30/2008 2:48:21 PM
I would welcome a black man as president, if his
politics were in line with what I believe in.
Unfortunately, Barack Obama's politics are way
on the other side of the political spectrum from mine.
I would welcome a woman as president, if her
politics were in line with what I believe in.
Same comment as above for Hillary.
Last summer, I set up a Ron Paul booth at a gun show.
One guy actually asked me why, since I was a woman,
wasn't I supporting Hillary. I said that it is very sad
to think that I should support her simply because I am
a woman. I feel the same way about race. I am not
going to support or not support someone simply because
of the color of their skin.
If they are in line with my political beliefs, I will support them.
If they are not, I won't support them. Simple as that. I have
voted as a Republican, and I have voted as a Democrat. I vote
for the CANDIDATE -- NOT THE PARTY! If more people would
stop worrying about the party and vote their conscience, maybe
we'd have a better selection of representatives in Washington.
Dayna
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 2:40:31 PM
Suth'nBoy wrote:
Why not have him in a position to actually participate in policy?
Actually, he *IS* in a position to actually participate in policy. He won the
Primary for his 14th District Texas Congressional Seat by a 70/30 blowout margin.
There is no Democratic opponent for November, so it appears he will return to
Congress for yet another term, unless by some miracle he does make it on the
Presidential ticket or VP.
Suth'nBoy wrote:
Ron Paul is anything but a traditional republican-conservative.
I beg to differ. As Dr. Paul has said many times, it's the Republican Party who has
"lost its way". Dr. Paul is more in line with the traditional republican-conservative
values than any of the Neo-Cons in today's politics. Regarding McCain, a direct
quote --
He can not support McCain because “I don’t consider his positions to be part of
the traditional Republican conservative platform.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485858/
When I think of "traditional Republican conservative" - I think of Robert Taft
or Barry Goldwater or Dr. Ron Paul.
Dayna
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 1:51:24 PM
Dr. Ron Paul will never "fade into oblivion". As far as I am concerned,
he has already "Won" -- because he is EDUCATING millions of
people about our government, our Constitution, our rights and
our freedoms. We are one-by-one, waking up the sleeping
masses, and making a difference!
In fact, there are many "Ron Paul Republicans" who have gotten
off their duffs and are taking action by running for public
office, in local, state and national races. Check out:
http://paulcongress.com
There are about 50 candidates running for Federal office under
the "Ron Paul Platform", as well as about 20 running for State
offices. Many are running as Republicans, but there are Libertarians
and Constitution Party candidates who also run on the "Ron Paul Platform".
Several are endorsed personally by Dr. Paul, and several have
won their Primaries already!
As for me, personally - I always did my duty by voting, but was never
involved in a campaign before, prior to learning about Dr. Ron Paul
early in 2007. I must say, Dr. Paul cured my political apathy. He has
GREATLY inspired me to take action and help get this country back
to where it should be. The REVOLUTION CONTINUES!
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
or, my site:
http://www.myspace.com/ronpaulgal
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If Clinton Were to Select Ron Paul as a Running Mate...
Posted:
5/30/2008 1:28:39 PM
My opinion:
He likely would not accept that position, as her views are not in line with his.
He has previously stated that he will not endorse McCain unless McCain's
views radically change. I cannot see him endorsing Clinton or Obama either,
and certainly not accepting a running mate slot with any of them.
Dayna
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What's up with Father Michael Pfleger?
Posted:
5/30/2008 1:22:43 PM
Whether people want to admit it or not, people are sometimes
judged by the company they keep. From what I can discern,
Obama and Pfleger have been close for quite a few years.
http://www.slate.com/id/2188414/
In April 2004, Barack Obama told a reporter from the Chicago
Sun-Times that he had three spiritual mentors or counselors: Jeremiah
Wright, James Meeks, and Father Michael Pfleger — for a change of pace,
a white Catholic preacher who has a close personal feeling for the man he
calls (as does Obama) Minister Farrakhan. This crossover stuff is not as
"inclusive" as it might be made to seem: Meeks' main political connections
in the white community are with the hysterically anti-homosexual wing of
the Christian right. If Obama were to be read a list of the positions that his
clerical supporters take on everything from Judaism to sodomy, he would
be in the smooth and silky business of "distancing" from now until November.
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Here's the video from Michael Pfleger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y
Here is the article from the Chicago Sun-Times in 2004:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040504.article
In part, says:
Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina
Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side,
who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass
set, he says.
Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James
Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church. The day after
Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night
Bible study.
Meeks is well-established on record as spewing racial divisiveness as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Kz-_IaFyU
Maybe this is just part of the African American culture? I don't know.
I would be dismayed to think that all black churches spew this rhetoric.
We keep reading that children in Mexico are taught to believe that S.W.
USA should be returned to Mexico -- and Palestinian children are taught
to hate Jews -- where does it all end????
No, Barack Obama wasn't in the audience, nor should he be held responsible
for what Michael Pfleger said. However, he should also be aware that there
are people who DO believe you are judged by the company you keep - and
if all of your spiritual advisers spew racial hatred/rhetoric/divisiveness,
then the next logical thought is the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Dayna
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The Rev. Wright Strikes Again
Posted:
5/30/2008 12:15:32 PM
Oh good Lord, everyone's jumping to DELETE a thread again.
What's wrong with you people? Are you afraid of the TRUTH??????
Dayna
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The Rev. Wright Strikes Again
Posted:
5/30/2008 12:14:13 PM
EXACTLY, gunn357!!! For those of you not familiar with the
Tuskegee Experiment, please Google it, or read the info below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male
As far as Rev. Wright and the origins of the AIDS virus... I tend
to agree that it was not simply Mother Nature. As he said in his
speech -- "Have you read Horowitz’s book, 'Emerging Viruses:
AIDS and Ebola,'? Have you read 'Medical Apartheid'?"
Here is information on the two books he mentioned:
Emerging Viruses: AIDS And Ebola : Nature, Accident or Intentional?
By Leonard G. Horowitz
http://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Viruses-Nature-Accident-Intentional/dp/0923550127
Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
By Harriet A. Washington
http://www.amazon.com/Medical-Apartheid-Experimentation-Americans-Colonial/dp/076791547X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212174653&sr=1-1
I have been researching this subject, and came across another
very interesting set of articles by Dr. Alan Cantwell.
Alan Cantwell, MD states:
The mixing of AIDS facts and fallacies has long been apparent to researchers
like myself who are convinced that HIV did not come from Mother Nature
and "species jumping", but was most likely introduced via contaminated vaccine
experiments exclusively targeting the Black African and the American Gay
community.
http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=5420
Also, Dr. Cantwell wrote a very interesting article entitled:
Reverend Jeremiah Wright Is Right About Man-Made AIDS
http://www.rense.com/general81/sdf.htm
Please
read the links, and
learn
. Thank you.
Dayna
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The scandal you may never hear a word about in America
Posted:
5/30/2008 9:50:56 AM
oddsrhuge wrote:
But the article is correct when it states MOST Americans have
NEVER heard of her. The simple reason being that MOST Americans
get their news from such reliable sources like CNN and Fox...who always
present the balanced story.
BINGO!!!
Just yesterday, this news story came out regarding Jessica Yellin, a CNN reporter
who was pressured to air positive stories about the Bush Administration and the
war. She discussed this with Anderson Cooper on his show 5/28:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ij9JDGtKUEu9OlIDnowiM0AS9C3wD90VJ11G4
In part, the article says:
During her CNN appearance, Yellin said the press corps was under enormous
pressure from corporate executives to make sure the war was presented "in a way
that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation and the president's high
approval ratings."
The higher Bush's approval ratings, the more pressure she felt from news executives
to put on positive stories about the president, she said. Pushed by Cooper to explain,
Yellin said her bosses would turn down critical stories about the administration and
try to put on positive pieces.
Here's the video from Anderson Cooper's show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULw0tfYvxhU
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I have to say THANK YOU to Montreal_Guy for starting this thread.
Lord knows, if I would have started it, it would have been ignored or
ridiculed, since I'm just one of those "conspiracy nuts". Yep, guilty as
charged. Although I prefer to call myself a freedom fighter, and TRUTH
teller - no matter how bad or horrible the TRUTH may be.
Dayna
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The scandal you may never hear a word about in America
Posted:
5/30/2008 9:28:20 AM
Sibel Edmonds' story is not new to me. But then of course,
I'm just a conspiracy theorist.
She testified under oath, behind closed doors, in February 2004 to the
9/11 Commission about things going on in FBI translation department.
Here is a letter she wrote to the 9/11 Commission August 1, 2004 after
their "report" was released, and her testimony was ignored.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0802-06.htm
She is also the subject of a documentary - Kill The Messenger.
http://www.justacitizen.com/KillTheMessenger.html
Here's her website:
http://www.justacitizen.com
Please check out these links.
Please educate yourself.
We are
NOT "nuts" --- this stuff is REAL, and I hope and pray that
America and the world will wake from their slumber and take
action before our country is completely destroyed.
Dayna
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Nuclear Jihad?
Posted:
5/29/2008 2:41:28 PM
RedTory wrote:
Speaking of terrorism, has Congress gotten any information on the 2001
anthrax attacks yet? Last I heard, they were not receiving any information from
the FBI.
This is a link to an interview with Senator Leahy, which was from September 2007.
Here is what he said about the progress of the investigation:
VDB: I’m wondering if you’re satisfied with the progress of that investigation —
Leahy: [Face a thundercloud now and voice emphatic and loud enough to turn heads
at nearby tables] No! [Then again] No!
This quote was also very telling:
Leahy: But I don’t think it’s somebody insane. And I think there are people within
our government — certainly from the source of it — who know where it came from.
[Taps the table to let that settle in] And these people may not have had anything to
do with it, but they certainly know where it came from.
Full interview here:
http://vermontdailybriefing.com/?p=729
Also, the Wikipedia entry has a lot of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
As I had mentioned before, the main thing you need to ask is who benefits?
Also, why target Daschle & Leahy? Their questioning of the Patriot Act
was definitely an indication to me that the anthrax was sent to either silence
them, or send a message to them to stop making waves.
Dayna
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Nuclear Jihad?
Posted:
5/28/2008 12:45:44 PM
Tre-lancs, that's simple....
ELECT DR. RON PAUL AS PRESIDENT!!!
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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Nuclear Jihad?
Posted:
5/28/2008 9:47:40 AM
itechman42 wrote:
I'm surprised at how difficult it is for nations to develop and get
their hands on such things. Where are Jihadists going to get them?
Well, I bet any WMD's will come from the same sort of place the Anthrax
strain came from in the attacks on various media outlets, and Senators Daschle
& Leahy beginning in September 2001, a week after the 9/11 attack.
By the way -- at the time, Daschle was the Senate Majority leader and Leahy
was head of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Both were identified in the media
as holding up the proposed Patriot Act because of concerns that some parts of
it would violate civil liberties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
The anthrax used was found to be from the Ames strain, which originated at the
U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort
Detrick, Maryland.
Draw your own conclusions as to the connection. First question, is who benefits
from shutting up Daschle & Leahy? As far as WMD's getting into the hands of
Jihadists for a new attack..... again, draw your own conclusions as to how they
will obtain them, and - more importantly - who benefits from the attacks.
Dayna
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Obama ducking sniper fire?
Posted:
5/27/2008 7:01:23 PM
Montreal_Guy wrote:
When one thinks death camp, the first name that pops into one's
head is Auschwitz.
I agree, it is the most famous and/or well-known concentration camp.
If anyone hasn't visited the website, check out
http://www.auschwitz.org.pl
There are English, Polish and German text options. There is a lot to
learn from this website. One part says:
From among all the people deported to Auschwitz, approximately 400,000 people
were registered and placed in the camp and its sub-camps (200,000 Jews, more than
140,000 Poles, approximately 20,000 Gypsies from various countries, more than
10,000 Soviet prisoners of war, and more than 10,000 prisoners of other
nationalities). Over 50% of the registered prisoners died as a result of starvation, labor
that exceeded their physical capacity, the terror that raged in the camp, executions,
the inhuman living conditions, disease and epidemics, punishment, torture, and
criminal medical experiments.
It's just amazing the number of people who died there, and in the other camps. I
remember watching the Holocaust Miniseries on TV when I was barely a teenager,
and it haunts me to this day. Roots Miniseries was another one that affected me
very profoundly. Both really woke me up to the conception of man's inhumanity
to man. I hope that teenagers today would have the opportunity to watch these
two profoundly enlightening miniseries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(TV_miniseries)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(TV_miniseries)
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Posted:
5/27/2008 6:44:46 PM
What bothers me is why he would specifically mention
Auschwitz, when it was actually Buchenwald (or more
specifically, Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald.) The
names are not even remotely the same, so it's not like
he misspoke "Smith camp" for "Smythe camp".
Also - Auschwitz is in Poland. Buchenwald is in Germany.
That does speak a bit about either his lack of geographical
knowledge or lack of historical knowledge of these camps
(or both).
I think the real issue here is either he did not truly know his
great-uncle's story, or simply named any camp that came to
mind. If it was the latter, he should have just said "concentration
camps" in general, and not tried to specify any one in particular.
Otherwise, as he discovered, he's just giving his opponents
more opportunity to discredit him. Personally, I would have
expected him to know the difference between the names, as
well as the difference in the locations.
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Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted:
5/27/2008 5:54:22 PM
Bluesman2008 wrote:
I just found the short WMV file and if anyone wants to see it,
I'll upload a copy. It's funny as hell but it shows how arrogance, authority
with it's power catch up to an embarrassing reality check. It's about the
USS Montana and it's confrontation with, hmm something.
Hahaha, "something" is right!
This is a great video - looks to be a Swedish ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U33Xg91HAlo
You called that exactly -- (arrogance, authority, etc.).
By the way, more info about the "USS Montana"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Montana
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Posted:
5/27/2008 5:07:44 PM
Montreal_Guy wrote:
Knowing that AQ in Iraq doesn't have Iranians training them inside Iran. I hope someone points that out to President McCain before he orders an airstrike on one of those mythical Shia AQ Iranian bases.
Let's hope Liebrman stays close to McCain for the entire presidency.
Montreal Guy - STOP giving me NIGHTMARES!
Let's hope that the words President and McCain are NEVER EVER EVER EVER
used in the same sentence. If it ever is, we are in a world of st*t. As much as I
cringe at the thought of either Obama or Clinton as our Commander in Chief,
I cringe even more at the thought of McCain. We will be in WWIII for sure.
Dayna
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Lawyer who convicted Manson wants GWB charged with mass murder.
Posted:
5/27/2008 4:27:05 PM
Always Smiling37 wrote:
Absolutely. I am kind of baffled as to why this has not happened.
Because Nancy Pelosi stated that they were taking impeachment off the table.
"Impeachment is off the table," said Pelosi in an interview aired Sunday on CBS
"60 Minutes."
Pelosi called impeachment "a waste of time," and suggested Republicans -- who have
controlled the House for 12 years -- would make political hay out of it if Democrats
tried to impeach Bush.
"Wouldn't they just love it if we came in and our record as Democrats coming forth
after 12 years is to talk about George Bush and****Cheney? This election is about
them. This is a referendum on them. Making them lame ducks is good enough for me."
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2006/10/22/pelosi_impeachment_is_off_the_table/
As I have stated before, the Dems took over the House and Senate with great
promises of change. With promises to get us out of Iraq, and of turning things
around. All of those promises went out the window as soon as they got in.
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Posted:
5/27/2008 3:01:08 PM
Comment from the Obama camp -- says he "misspoke".
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/obama_misspoke_about_auschwitz.html
An aide to Barack Obama says the candidate misspoke on Memorial Day when
he told a group of veterans that his uncle was among the American troops who
liberated the Auschwitz concentration camp.
In fact, Obama's great uncle took part in the liberation of one of the concentration
camps at Buchenwald, spokesman Bill Burton said this afternoon.
"Yesterday he mistakenly referred to Auschwitz instead of Buchenwald in telling
of his personal experience of a soldier in his family who served heroically," Burton
said.
Obama made the mistake while speaking to veterans in Las Cruces, N.M., as he told
of members of his family who served in the military.
According to press accounts of the Monday campaign event, Obama told of an uncle
who was one of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate prisoners there.
A video posted on YouTube also records the account, in which Obama goes on to
say that, "The story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up
into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months . . . Now, obviously,
something had really affected him deeply."
Obama's mother was an only child, but, according to Obama's memoirs, his mother's
parents played a major role in raising him. The campaign said this afternoon that
the uncle he was referring to was his grandmother's brother.
According to the campaign, Obama's great uncle served in the 89th Infantry Division
that liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of Buchenwald, liberated by Americans in April
1945.
Critics have been quick to seize on the mistake.
Obama's "dubious" claim is "inconsistent with world history," Republican National
Committee spokesman Alex Conant said.
"It was Soviet troops that liberated Auschwitz, so unless his uncle was serving in the
Red Army, there's no way Obama's statement yesterday can be true," he said.
"Obama's frequent exaggerations and outright distortions raise questions about his
judgment and his readiness to lead as commander in chief."
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Posted:
5/27/2008 1:57:55 PM
uninterested wrote:
He never claimed to have an uncle that helped liberate Auschwitz.
Did the American troops even go into Auschwitz
at all
, though?
That's part of the reason why his comment makes no sense.
"I had a uncle who was one of the - uh, who was part of the first American
troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps."
That's also part of the reason why I said he may have gotten the name
wrong. I'm not sure the American troops even went into Auschwitz.
Did he mean Auschwitz? Did he mean concentration camps in general?
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Posted:
5/27/2008 1:46:34 PM
Who is trying to delete this thread? That is crazy.
If you have a problem with that, take it up with B.O.
or CNN, who broadcast the speech. Don't try to have
a thread deleted just because it is telling the truth of
what was said.
Like I said previously, perhaps he had more than one
speech on Monday. This speech, from Las Cruces, NM
broadcast on CNN clearly states the Auschwitz comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA
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Posted:
5/27/2008 1:28:57 PM
uninterested wrote:
Nice story, except that Obama never even mentioned Auschwitz
in his speech. You can see his speech and the transcript for it at the above
link.
Please see the link to my video in my post. He CLEARLY stated
Auschwitz during his speech - no matter what your transcript says.
Here's the link again, recorded from CNN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA
This states it's a speech from Las Cruces, NM. Perhaps he gave more
than one speech on Monday? Nevertheless, in the speech above, he
DID say Auschwitz.
Dayna
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Posted:
5/27/2008 1:27:00 PM
Hmmm... Not sure how bad this new "misstep" will affect him.
His exact words were:
"I had a uncle who was one of the - uh, who was part of the first American
troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps."
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA
The Soviets were the first to go into Auschwitz, and they liberated the camp
on January 27, 1945.
http://www.pbs.org/auschwitz/learning/timeline/1945.html
He did say camps, rather than camp - so it's possible that his uncle helped liberate
one of the other camps, and he was simply wrong on the name. However, I would
think that if this story was passed down through his family, they would have gotten
the camp name correct. The name Auschwitz is a far cry from Dachau, which the
American forces did liberate. U.S. troops apparently did not enter Germany
until April 1945 - not sure when they entered Poland, where Auschwitz is located.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/camps.html
Dayna
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Faux News Contributor, Liz Trotta, Openly Calls for Obama Assassination
Posted:
5/26/2008 7:42:42 PM
glock22shooter wrote (re: Dr. Ron Paul's possible view of the comment):
Dayna, no doubt he would find them extremely distasteful,
and even stupid, but I doubt he'd go so far as to call them unacceptable,
IMHO that crosses the line of being restrictive towards the 1st.
Well, I feel that she crossed the line. I am all for free speech, so maybe this is
hypocritical of me? I don't know. But I feel there are
some
exceptions
to the free speech right, just as pointed out in the article - which says.......
"If the First Amendment doesn't allow one to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater
or "Bomb!" on an airplane, how could it allow a public "joke" about assassinating
a political candidate?"
That was also my first thought/analogy of the situation. While people should
be able to freely speak their minds, you're talking about the assassination of
a presidential candidate. To me, that does require some form of modesty in
your speech - even if you privately feel he should be "knocked off" (as she put it).
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Faux News Contributor, Liz Trotta, Openly Calls for Obama Assassination
Posted:
5/26/2008 7:20:45 PM
Even if it *is* a joke - for her to say that on TV
is beyond comprehension.
I am by no means an Obama supporter - in fact,
he is the least likely of the candidates that I would
vote for because he is so extremely liberal and his
stances are miles away from my own. However,
I feel this woman seriously crossed the line, and
should be taken to task for it.
There is a petition to have her fired.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/fox-news-has-to-sack-liz-trotta
Yes, there is the First Amendment regarding Free Speech,
but for her to take Hillary to task regarding mentioning
RFK's assassination, and then HERSELF talking about having
Osama and Obama bumped off ("well, both of them if we could"
is what she said) -- is really the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?
Also, as one of the articles brought up:
The questions the Secret Service should be asking are: Were Liz Trotta and
FOX News criminally negligent in using the public airwaves to suggest the
assassination of a presidential candidate; Is the suggestion of political assassination
an example of legitimate criticism; and, If the First Amendment doesn't allow one to
yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater or "Bomb!" on an airplane, how could it allow a
public "joke" about assassinating a political candidate?
And what is the question the rest of us should be asking? How about, what kind of
world are we creating for ourselves and our children where we allow our political
divisions to become so deep that the suggestion or even the joke about a political
assassination is in any way acceptable?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-seitzman/is-the-secret-service-inv_b_103565.html
I do wonder what Dr. Ron Paul would say about this, as he is totally for
free speech. However, I really feel he would not find her comments
acceptable.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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The meaning of Memorial Day
Posted:
5/26/2008 6:34:40 PM
Jason, Suth'n and all Veterans here - Thank You for your service to our country.
Also, God Bless all veterans who have fought for our freedom, protected our
nation and stood watch to keep us save. We owe you a debt of gratitude more
than could ever be repaid.
Dayna
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Faux News Contributor, Liz Trotta, Openly Calls for Obama Assassination
Posted:
5/26/2008 6:32:15 PM
Wow, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And the host was just
"ha-ha'ing" right along with her. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AxdVWZFvM
Appearing on Fox News on Sunday, Trotta, a former editor with the Washington
Times and reporter for the Chicago Tribune and Newsday, was asked by the host,
Eric Shawn, about the Clinton controversy and the 2008 race. This led Trotta to
refer to the Clinton misstep.
Trotta, according to now widely-circulated video, replied, "And now we have what
some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama, uh Obama.
Well,
both, if we could."
She laughed.
The host, Shawn, clearly understanding how far she had gone, quickly
commented: "Talk about how you really feel."
Here are some articles.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-seitzman/is-the-secret-service-inv_b_103565.html
Her "apology":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/liz-trotta-apologizes-on_b_103561.html
Here's her bio from Faux News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34775,00.html
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One article mentioned maybe the Secret Service should investigate her.
Don't know about that, but I definitely think this isn't going to go away
for her anytime soon. Very stupid move on her part, even if she thought
it was joking.
Dayna
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The Little Monster is Done
Posted:
5/25/2008 2:17:32 PM
Holy cow - I just heard/saw Keith Olbermann's rant about
Hillary's "assassination" comment - it runs almost 11 minutes.
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y
Here's a link to the transcript:
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=2&subcatid=30&threadid=798662
Pretty interesting commentary - and he does call her out on
all the times America has "forgiven" her for her previous
"missteps". For the poster that has said Hillary has done
nothing wrong in this campaign, I urge you to watch this.
This is the part that really got to me:
God knows, Senator, in this campaign the nation has had to forgive you early
and often. And despite your now traditional opinion of the Offended Victim,
this nation has forgiven you.
We have forgiven you for your insistence that there have been widespread
calls for you to end your campaign, when such calls in fact had been few.
We have forgiven you about your mis-speaking about Martin Luther King's
relative importance to the Civil Rights movement.
We have forgiven you your mis-speaking about your under-fire landing in Bosnia.
We have forgiven you for insisting that Michigan's vote would not count, and then
claiming those who would not count it were 'undemocratic'.
We have forgiven you for pledging to not campaign in Florida, and thus disenfranchise
voters there, and then claiming those who stuck to those rules were as wrong as those
who defended slavery, or denied women the vote.
We have forgiven you the photos of Osama Bin Laden in an anti-Obama ad.
We have forgiven you the fawning over the fairness of Fox News, while they were
still calling you a murderer.
We have forgiven you accepting Richard Mellon Scaife’s endorsement, and then
laughing as you described his death-bed conversion.
We have forgiven you the quoting of the editorial predictions of Boss Karl Rove.
We have forgiven you the “3am Phone Call Commercial“.
We have forgiven you President Clinton’s disparaging comparison of the Obama
candidacy to Jesse Jackson‘s.
We have forgiven you Geraldine Ferraro's national radio interview, suggesting
Obama would not still be in this race, had he been a white man.
We have forgiven you the dozen changing metrics, and the endless self-contradictions
of your insistence that your nomination is mathematically probable, rather than a
statistical impossibility.
We have forgiven you your declaration that 'some primary states count, and some
really don't‘.
We have forgiven you exploiting Jeremiah Wright in front of the editorial board of the
lunatic fringe Pittsburgh Tribune Review.
We have forgiven you exploiting William Ayers in front of the debate on ABC.
We have forgiven you of your boasting the support of your "hard working Americans-
WHITE Americans".
We have even forgiven you repeatedly praising Senator McCain, at Senator Obama's
expense, and at your own expense, and at the Democratic ticket's expense.
But Senator, we cannot forgive you this. "You know, my husband did not wrap up the
nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in he middle of
June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June, in California."
We cannot forgive you this Senator, not because it is crass and low and unfeeling and
brutal. This is unforgivable because this nation's deepest shame, its most enduring
horror, its most terrifying legacy is political assassination. Lincoln, Garfield,
McKinley, Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy. And but for
the grace of the universe, for the luck of the draw- Reagan, Ford, Truman, Nixon,
Andrew Jackson, both Roosevelt’s, even George Wallace. The politics of this nation is
steeped enough in blood, Senator Clinton. You cannot and must not invoke that
imagery. Anywhere. At any time. And to not appreciate immediately, and to still not
appreciate tonight just what you have done today is to reveal an incomprehension
about the America you seek to lead.
This, Senator, is too much. Because a Senator, a politician, a person who can let hang
in mid-air the prospect that she might just be sticking around, in part, just incase the
other guy gets shot, has no business being, and no capacity to be, the President of the
United States.
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Dayna
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And this is why Independents matter
Posted:
5/24/2008 1:11:25 PM
SimmahDahnNah wrote:
So if he (Dr. Ron Paul) raised 6 million dollars in 24 hours
(read that blurb the other day) why is he being brushed off?
In the past, I have voted for Republicans and for Democrats. I don't vote
on a "party line". I vote for who I believe is the best person for the job.
In this case, I feel the best person is Dr. Ron Paul. If only more people would
STAND UP for themselves and STOP thinking that he is "unelectable", then
he would have a chance to get in office and TURN this country around. It
CAN happen. Abraham Lincoln went into the RNC as a nobody, who had
very few delegates. He wound up with the nomination. It's happened before,
it could happen again. We just need to stand up for ourselves and vote for
the person who we TRULY agree with.
The MSM (Mainstream Media), plus the Republicans in power will
not allow him to be heard. Think about it. For example: NBC is owned
by GE. GE is a major Defense Contractor. Do you seriously think they
will allow someone so anti-war to have a voice? This country is really
not run by government - it's run by the corporations and private bankers.
These elites make money off the war. They're not about to allow it to be
stopped.
Dr. Paul wants to shut down the Federal Reserve, and go back to what
our Founding Fathers suggested - sound money. The Federal Reserve
is a PRIVATE banking corporation. The Government has the "power to
coin money, and regulate the value thereof. " However, in 1913, Congress
passed the Federal Reserve Act, which turned our rights to coin money
over to a group of PRIVATE BANKERS! THEY are the ones who truly
run the country. If you haven't seen "America Freedom To Fascism",
I highly recommend it. Very educational documentary on the history
of the Federal Reserve and the IRS.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
The ultimate goal of the corporations, and private bankers is a single
one-world government. That is what George H.W. Bush called "The New
World Order" in his speech to Congress on September 11, 1990. Do your
research, and you'll learn that all three "top" candidates are members of
the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) and that they all will do NOTHING
to stop the NAU/SPP (North American Union / Security & Prosperity
Partnership) or a NWO (New World Order) one-world government.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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The Memorial Day thread - sans politics, and with respect
Posted:
5/24/2008 12:24:43 PM
Thanks Montreal Guy for starting this thread.
I want to salute my father, who served his country in WWII. He wanted to be a
pilot, but a childhood injury to his arm/hand left him without full rotation on
his hand, and he couldn't pass the pilot's exam. He instead trained to be an
airplane mechanic and was stationed in Scotland and England during the war.
After the war, he was a founding member of our local American Legion Post,
and headed the Memorial Day services every year held at the Honor Roll in
our local park in my hometown. He passed away May 5, 2005, and again on
Monday, we will pay tribute to him and all other soldiers in the ceremony he
started.
God Bless all of our fallen heroes, living veterans and current military
personnel fighting for our country.
Dayna
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Obama on Immigration
Posted:
5/24/2008 12:13:45 PM
Mr. Internet wrote:
Your TV watching has affected your sense of purpose in society.
Hmmmmm... I agree with the OP, and I don't watch TV. I haven't watched TV
in a good six months, and get my news from online and from newspapers I read.
How does my views of a candidate's vote on illegal immigration issues affect my
sense of purpose in society?
Do you feel illegal immigration - particularly the fact that the "top three candidates"
seem to support it - isn't a major issue in this presidential race, and shouldn't be
addressed? What's wrong with reviewing the candidates stances on the issues -
especially an issue like this one that affects so many other aspects of our lives.
This affects our job market, our healthcare, and every major aspect of our lives.
If you don't care that our country is being flooded with illegals who have no
respect for our laws, then I really do feel sorry for you, as it is you who seem
to have blinders on.
Obama doesn't even want English to be the official language. WTF??? He voted NO on:
Declaring English the National Language
"Vote to pass an amendment that declares English as the language of "sole legal
authority" for the business of the federal government, and declares that no person
has a right to require officials of the United States government to use a language
other than English."
Clinton voted NO, as well - and, in one move that I agree with - McCain voted YES.
It's rare I agree with McCain on anything, but I will say he did the right thing in
this case.
Dayna
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
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Surely she didn't
Posted:
5/23/2008 10:51:48 PM
LOL, well, I certainly don't lack that........
Just was on CNN.com and she's now backpeddaling -- err, explaining......
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/23/clinton.comments/index.html
Clinton explains RFK assassination reference
BRANDON, South Dakota (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton said Friday that she regretted comments that evoked the June 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy as part of her explanation for why she was staying in the presidential race late into the primary season.
Earlier Friday afternoon, she told the editorial board of the Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Argus Leader that "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said.
Clinton complained that "people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa" and said that position "historically ... makes no sense."
Later at an event in Brandon, South Dakota, she said, "Earlier today, I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Sen. Kennedy waged in California in June in 1992 and 1968, and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nominating primary contests that go into June. That's an historic fact." Watch more of Clinton's comments to the editorial board »
"The Kennedys have been much on my mind in the last days because of Sen. [Edward] Kennedy, and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that whatsoever," Clinton added.
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It goes on from there, and there's a video on the site of her "explaining".
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Surely she didn't
Posted:
5/23/2008 10:29:19 PM
loveoregon wrote:
I am convinced she is quite insincere, cold hearted, and will stop at nothing to get herself elected.
Very telling that she mentions an assassination.
I am convinced that Obama should be VERY careful between now and the
Democratic Convention. If he does wind up with the nomination, he won't
be crazy enough to have her as his running mate. That'd put him 6 feet under
for sure.
The woman will stop at NOTHING.
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McCain demands that America withdraw its troops now
Posted:
5/23/2008 8:58:49 PM
Perhaps it's because he's now entrenched with the War Machine
(Military Industrial Complex). They benefit from the continued war.
Or, maybe it was because he was against Clinton? Who knows. I
fully suspect that this man has no firm beliefs in anything, and his
loyalties blow with the wind.
At least with Dr. Ron Paul, you know where he stands on the war,
and he WOULD stop the sensless killing and bring the troops home
now. NONE of the "top 3" candidates will commit to a withdrawal.
Dayna
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Political fundraisng 2008
Posted:
5/23/2008 8:50:04 PM
Democrats have had a far stronger turn-out for the
primaries and caucuses. They have outpaced the
Republicans in fundraising pretty much 2-1. It's
pretty obvious that the Republicans are not happy
with the "choice" that has been handed to them by
the MSM and the powers that be, and aren't pouring
their money into McCain's campaign. Can you blame
them?
As a Republican, I shudder to think of McCain being
elected president. If you think Bush was bad, "you
ain't seen nothin' yet". I know I will do all I can to
ensure this man does NOT wind up in the Oval Office.
Dayna
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Hitting too Close to Home?? Obama's Inner-most Thoughts
Posted:
5/23/2008 8:40:16 PM
Steven02151 --- you may want to note that it was a HILLARY
supporter who posted this - NOT a Republican. Just FYI.......
As far as the quotes, they definitely seem to be taken out of
context. And what really bothers me, is the one quote which
was supposedly in his book, cannot be found in it. To me, if
they are lying about the one quote, then the rest are obviously
suspect.
Dayna
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