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 Author Thread: Don't Smoke Around Your Apple.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Don't Smoke Around Your Apple.
Posted: 11/27/2009 9:13:45 AM

So not only do I have to worry about passive smoking near adults, near children, and near bar staff, I also have to worry about passive smoking near my PC as well?

What's next? Is it going to invalidate my mobile's warranty if I take it into a foggy area?

OK, now you're just being dramatic & ridiculous. It's a fact that cigarette smoke is harmful. Not just to our health, but also to electronic equipment. Especially electronic equipment that draws in ambient air for the purpose of cooling. So, what's wrong with manufacturer's wanting to safeguard themselves from situations where the consumer clearly abused the product?
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Don't Smoke Around Your Apple.
Posted: 11/26/2009 10:39:47 AM

I once walked into an apartment of 3 heavy smokers...everything in the apartment was a lovely shade of Tar.

Exactly! This is why Apple is WELL within their rights to void warranties. The office I used to work in was full of smokers and I would periodically have to open up each computer to try to clear them out. The dust was bad enough, but the nicotine just covered EVERYTHING inside of them and was virtually impossible to clean. It was disgusting and really detrimental to the longevity of the computers. Things got so bad that I eventually moved all of my computers & electronic equipment to a remote, smokeless office.

OP clearly has a bug up his butt because he's an ADDICT and doesn't have the will power or self control to quit smoking. So, he lashes out at whoever he can get in his sights and accuses them of being unfair, and of "silliness". It's the typical defensive rantings of an addict in denial.

OP, grow the hell up! The "conspiracies" against smokers are clinically, very well founded & documented. There is not ONE THING beneficial about smoking. So, go ahead and continue smoking, as is your right. However, we don't need to hear your completely baseless tirades about the decisions that companies make in order to protect themselves from having to pay up for what is clearly, abuse of their product. If you want to voluntarily ruin your computer by smoking around it (against the manufacturer's recommendation), that's your decision. But don't then pretend to be a victim who is being treated unfairly when it needs to be repaired/replaced. Because, that's simply NOT the case.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Dating Daddy's Girl
Posted: 11/25/2009 1:53:40 PM

Well my question again is: Does it turn you off or scare you to date a gal who is "daddy's little girl"??

Of course not. In fact, like guitarhero, I would see it as a benefit, for the same reasons.

I happen to be the father of a 23 year old daughter is IS the proverbial "daddy's girl" and probably somewhat of a "Princess". We have a wonderful relationship and I think that carries through to her and shows in her ability to choose honorable partners. She has had 2 "major" relationships in her lifetime and both have been with genuinely good guys. Of course, upon meeting both fellows, I did take the opportunity (privately) to let them know just how much she & her happiness means to me, etc., etc. - you get the picture IE: if she's happy then I'm happy.

My point is, IMO a daddy's girl would/should be a great partner.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
 
how do you know?
Posted: 11/25/2009 10:44:00 AM

I suppose i just gotta buck up me courage and message people lol. Well maybe lmao There should be a little button that lets u just wink or something

YOU are the one who decides what "league" you're in and frankly, your lack of self confidence is going to kill you here. I'd suggest that you get divorced because there is a certain taboo surrounding "separated/married" people in online dating. I'd also suggest that you get a profile review - yours just screams insecurity.

In answer to your question, you can't sit on the sidelines just watching the game and expect someone to take you by the hand and drag you in. Yes, sometime men who are interested in you will contact you, but often times, you need to be proactive. Online dating is like most everything else in life - you get out of it, what you put into it. So, if you see a man that you're interested in, message him! If your fear of rejection is so strong that it prevents you from doing so, then I'd suggest that you close your POF account, work on your self esteem, and THEN get back in the game. Otherwise, you're just going to end up a disappointed bystander.

Good Luck!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 78 (view)
 
Her Orgasm
Posted: 11/25/2009 10:24:18 AM

WOW.How do you even get close enough to a woman to make her come with such a RUDE and blameshifting attitude,it's anyone's guess.
LMAO! As I said....A man's EGO's can't handle being told they SUCK in bed so they blame the women for thier choices? Ridiculous....but typical. Well......all but YOU suck in bed.....You are a STUD and anyone who chooses you.....well, you may be a pleaser...but you are truly OFF BASE in your accusitory tone!

There is NO way in HELL women can KNOW before they have sex with a man.....that he's incapable of giving her an orgasm.Sorry.Back on THEM for thier ignorance.

BTW.....the first majority of BOYS I had sex with,were in and around High School...and if you think THOSE lil boys had any clue what they were doing...GUESS AGAIN! They chose ME......and I gave it up hoping ONE of them could figure it out so I could come without my damn hand! NO SUCH LUCK!

I figured out that if I wanted MINE...I had to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT MYSELF! So I did.

ARgghhh! So damn RUDE you are.

I know this isn't personal.....but damn if I don't appreciate being HONEST...and BLAMED for something that most CERTAINLY was not my fault.

hehehe, frankly, with an attitude like this, it's no wonder that 36 of the 38 men you fvcked could have cared less about your pleasure! I find it interesting that you equate MY opinion to being rude, but your little tirade above isn't? That logic escapes me...


thank you ticklelick for the educational post
it takes corage so well done you. :)

Educational?? It's full of contradictions, took NO corage [sic], and really proves nothing. Anyone can Google a subject and copy & paste selective exerts that support their viewpoint. BTW ticklelicks, clitoral stimulation is NOT required by all women in order to achieve orgasm. Many women are able to achieve orgasm through nipple stimulation, anal intercourse, and through kissing alone. Further, in general, the more emotionally connected a woman feels to a man, usually the easier it is for her to achieve orgasm. Hence the previous comment regarding much of orgasms being "in your head".

The bottom line here ticklelicks, is that I don't consider myself some kind of sexual dynamo or stud. My nature is to be a pleaser in bed and it just so happens that MY experiences have obviously been VERY different from your experiences. The only logical conclusion one could draw, based on your 2 & 36 record, is that it has to do with YOU. Whether it's an emotional/psychological thing or whether it's, as you openly admitted, that YOU chose 36 uncaring partners, the decisions you made were yours and yours alone. So, stop with the whole "blame shifting" & selective cut/paste BS and start taking responsibility for your own actions.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Need Advice
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:14:24 PM
Wow, 2 kids, a mortgage, and a lazy fiance, all by age 21... No offense, but it appears that you're not very good at making wise choices in life. If at this point you need to ask a forum full of strangers how to communicate with a man that you're already so heavily invested in, then it doesn't bode well for you in the long run.

I'm an old guy so that may have something to do with it, but as a man, I would NEVER ask my fiance/wife to take on a 2nd OR 3rd job to support me. PLENTY of people work & go to school full time. So, the excuse that school = no work is just ludacris to me. Especially considering the current situation you guys are in. It equates to just plain laziness and quite frankly, a huge level of disrespect towards you.

Sometimes, you NEED to put your foot down. So, my suggestion would be to sit down with your "man", without being b!tchy and/or defensive, and tell him like it is. Tell him that you appreciate that he wants to better himself through education, but that he NEEDS to have an income in order for the two of you to not just survive, but to grow & thrive. It's not much more complicated than that. If he balks or disagrees, then ask him to show you, on paper, how he expects to make it happen without putting even more strain on what has to be an already strained relationship. If he can't legitimately show you how all of the bills would get paid, WITHOUT you having to take on a 3rd job, then any logically thinking person could tell you what needs to be done - he NEEDS to get a job and start supporting his family instead of being the 3rd child that YOU are supporting and taking care of.

That's MY take on it.

EDIT:
Cracker31, you posted FOUR times in this thread within 20 minutes! I've also seen you do the same thing in other threads. I'd suggest that you learn how to use the EDIT feature in these capped forums. You have 15 minutes from the time you post, in which to go back and edit/update your response. Doing so will prevent valuable posting spots from being wasted and allow the OP to get more input from other members.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 26 (view)
 
talk to me before you judge me
Posted: 11/24/2009 8:12:35 AM
^^^YUP, everything that SHE said!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
hey guys need your advice
Posted: 11/24/2009 6:15:51 AM

Derfo - you are an old man. That's how it used to be back in your day. We are in another day now and a woman is capable of paying her share. If she wants to pay then let her pay, your just being a stuck up **** if you don't let her pay.

hehehe, must be an "old man" thing because I prefer to pay for everything on dates. The only reciprocation I want is good company. You see young man, that's what they call, chivalry. Look it up, because it's obviously not a term that you're familiar with.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What are men affraid of?
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:18:57 PM

What are the things that scares you the most when you see/meet attractive to you lady?

Umm... nothing, really. Seriously, what is there to be scared of??

What would you like that lady to do or not to do to see whether she is attracted to you as well?

Are you for real? It's generally pretty easy to figure out if there is attraction on EITHER side.

What can scare you off once you strat talking/chatting to her?

Nothing "scares" me off. However, certain things will TURN me off. Drama, jealousy, and a dim-witted personality - well, unless she has an exceptional butt!

What are you expecting to see in her behaviour to make you fall for her

An honest, upbeat, and open minded personality.

OP, it sounds like you're trying to make a punch list of behaviors required for a man to fall for you. Altering your personality to fit what you think a man is after is a recipe for disaster and is quite unfair to everyone involved. The truth is, you need to just be YOURSELF.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Her Orgasm
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:05:12 PM

Let me make this clearer....They didn't TRY to get me off....they were simply WAY more concerned about thier own

None of those 36 men CARED that I didn't get off..I never was even ASKED if I came......you telling me THAT'S my fault too?

YES, I would say that that's YOUR fault. The qualifying process that you use to choose sexual partners... well, it just SUCKS! Why would you choose to sleep with such selfish, ignorant b*stards?? So, stop trying to blame the 36 "inadequate" *ssholes and start putting it where it squarely lies - on YOU.


The problem is,the fact that most men don't have a grasp on a female's anatomy enough to know how to make them come.

Again, this has been YOUR experience with the men that YOU chose to be intimate with. I assure you that I am well versed in the female anatomy and have been since I was 15 years old. I've only been with ONE woman in my lifetime who I wasn't able to bring to REAL orgasm on my own and she openly admitted that she had "issues" and that it rarely happened for her - even when masturbating. Here's the thing, I'm a "pleaser" in bed. Meaning that I derive pleasure & satisfaction from HER pleasure & satisfaction - whatever that takes. You need to learn how to seek out that type of man, instead of scraping partners from the bottom of the selfish-sex barrel!

BTW: The fact that you've managed to choose 36 losers out of 38 partners, plays right into the whole psychological point I made earlier. This is YOUR problem, not theirs.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Should I date the friend??
Posted: 11/23/2009 11:33:55 AM
Is the OP really this naive!?? The guy wants to fvck you! He has made it clear that he DOESN'T want a relationship so... seriously, what else is there??

BTW, his buddy knows that you're easy and HE wants to fvck you too.

Sweetheart, this isn't rocket science!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
 
What is with guys?
Posted: 11/23/2009 9:56:30 AM

Why do so many profile pics show aguy with a ball cap on? Come on guys, be open and give full disclosure.

Well OP, why is it that so many women only post head shots on their profiles? Come on Girl, give us full disclosure! Women are notorious for having grand illusions as far as body types go. Yes, sumo wrestlers are technically athletes, but having a body like one is NOT considered "athletic". Full body pictures = full disclosure. Further, why do so many women feel the need to post egregious cleavage pictures? OR, why do so many women's profile titles say, "Looking for a good hearted man"? OR, why do so many women's profiles say that they've been used & lied to in the past and if you're a liar or a player, don't bother contacting them? OR, why do so many women's profiles have pictures of landscapes or their pets?? Etc, etc., etc.

OP, the thing is, we could all go on & on about TONS of things that we see in profiles and don't approve of and/or wonder why in the hell that they would post that. However, the bottom line is that if you don't like it or approve of it, POF has made it very convenient to just click to the next profile. There... problem solved!

BTW, it would be to your advantage to do a thread search before starting another thread. This subject has been done to death on the forums and I'm a little surprised that the thread hasn't been deleted already because of its redundancy.

Lastly, welcome and good luck!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Her Orgasm
Posted: 11/23/2009 9:37:58 AM

Guess I'm just an annomoly.
Maybe I just had a bad run of men my whole life as out of 38 of them I have had sex with since my teens,I can only thing of 2 who got me there with thier talents without the benefit of my own hand.Damn....glad they didn't get all bent out of shape trying to please me!

OK, this is a clear indication of a deeper issue, because I seriously doubt that 36 unsuccessful men is "a bad run". There is a certain percentage of women who just have a very hard time achieving orgasm, whether it's with a partner OR through masturbation. The cause is more often than not, psychological as opposed to physical. So frankly, you ARE somewhat of an anomaly and probably shouldn't let the responsibility lie with the 36, unsuccessful men.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
How to tell when he wants more than just sex
Posted: 11/22/2009 3:58:06 PM

How to tell when he wants more than just sex

IMO, the simple answer here is: You'll know if he wants more than sex if he hangs around, even though he's NOT GETTING sex. Seriously, you say that it's too soon to have the "relationship" talk, yet you're contemplating intimacy with him? That sounds a little backwards to me. Although, I'm an old guy so...
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
I ask a guy out.. I'm nervous!
Posted: 11/22/2009 9:41:44 AM
Have you ever actually MET the guy?? The reason I ask is because we've seen sooo many threads where the guy is deployed, they've never met, she falls in love with what is essentially a stranger on the internet, and then the guy disappears because all the while he was just looking for a supportive pen pal. Frankly, I don't remember a single one that actually worked out - the girl/s always ended up getting hurt.

If you've never met him, then there is no way that you should be falling in love with him. There is absolutely no way that you can have a true depiction of who/what you're dealing with based on an email/phone "relationship".

If you have met him, then I'd say that you're being pretty immature. Asking him to "be mine"? Be your what? If you were my daughter, my advice would be to back off of this guy and get involved with someone who is here & real.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Baseball Caps, Pecs and Six-Packs, Sexual monikers
Posted: 11/21/2009 10:05:54 AM

Why do men put these things on their profiles and in their photos, if not to broadcast their basic lack of class?

Awe Christ, here we go... again.


Probably because this site by and large appeals to the lowest common denominator.

BAH! Some of the pay sites are much worse than this one. In fact, I've met more honest & genuine women from this site than from any pay site I was ever on. In my experience, the notion that free equals lesser quality, just hasn't rung true.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 21 (view)
 
How do I know hes real soulmate, even with our differences?
Posted: 11/20/2009 7:49:04 PM
Wow, you need to slow down, Girl. How could you possibly be saying these things and asking these questions after "only a few" dates??

I'm sorry, but I'm convinced that there is nothing that anyone here could say, that would change the direction that this woman is heading. She's already thinking about bride's maids & flower girls...
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 52 (view)
 
Althetic Child, wants to be in soccor, but shared visitation makes that impossible, suggestions?
Posted: 11/20/2009 7:37:11 PM

Custodial parents pull this crap alot. Scheduling thier kid in excessive activities on the ncp's time. It's not your time get over yourself. I know alot of single dads whose ex's got thier kid doing all kinds of stupid crap just so they can widdle down thier ex husbands parenting time.

Dude, this isn't about the NCP's "precious time". At this stage of the game, it should be about what's best for the poor kid/s who got stuck in the middle of this mess, through absolutely no fault of their own. Why should they have to denied something so beneficial to them on so many levels, simply because one or the other parent feels that his/her time is more valuable than their children/s time. How is that fair to the kid/s?

The way you describe it sounds incredibly selfish, IMO. If the single Dads that you know have that type of attitude, then it's no wonder their exes want to limit their time & exposure to the children.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Canceled our first date..
Posted: 11/20/2009 10:16:14 AM
Personally, this is exactly why I will not do long, drawn out email & phone "relationships". IMO, it wastes waaay too much time and really give you little actual insight into exactly who/what you're dealing with. The only way to find that out is to meet face to face.

Sabrosura makes a very valid point. If I was to have to cancel a meet & greet and was then accused of making/being dramatic, it would be a HUGE turnoff for me. It would also be the equivalent of you hoisting a big red flag from YOUR mast.


Now im back in the city, we havent really spoken on the phone and even though we talk online everyday, laugh and he texts me all the time, hes never brought up rescheduling our ddate even though Ive alluded to the fact.

OK... so, here's a thought. Why don't YOU bring up the issue of meeting again!? I mean, after spending countless hours talking to this man, you still aren't comfortable enough to just say, "hey, let's meet"?? If he flakes out again, then I would take the whole thing as a learning experience. Learn to meet men sooner and avoid the incredible waste of time (and probably emotion) spent having daily, 3 hour phone conversations.

So, get him on the phone, tell him you're tired of the telecommunication relationship and that you want to meet him, once & for all. Hey, what's the worst that could happen?

Good luck!


EDIT:

Wouldnt insisting on a date look needy? By the way Im a tragic overthinker

Huh? Needy?? I'm not sure how you equate not wanting to continue wasting your time as being "needy". STOP over thinking these types of things. You'll be much better off in the long run.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 169 (view)
 
Women that smoke!!
Posted: 11/20/2009 8:33:42 AM

What else would make it "hidden" if people could see it? It seems the people who set up this site speak English as a second language, as they define "hidden" differently than Webster's does. You don't say much, other than attacking people. Since this is a smoking/non-smoking area, why not tell us how you quit, why you never started, or such? So, are you a navigator...or just a wannabe? Do you navigate fighter planes, cargo planes, airliners, or what? I bet they don't let you smoke around all that oxygen, eh? Or do you navigate ships rather than planes? Do tell.

Ahhh, I see that you have changed your status to not single/not looking! You see, I WAS of some help here - no need to thank me, though.

My smoking issue? I grew up being the youngest of 5 children, all of whom smoked, including my parents. It SUCKED. I hated the constant smell of nicotine & the way that it stuck to and stained EVERYTHING. So, I vowed to never be a smoker and never have. I don't let people smoke in my car, boat, or home and will not date a smoker. That's just my choice. If other people want to smoke, that's their right to do so, in their own environment. I supported the public ban on smoking, as I found it to be very offensive when I would go out for a nice meal, only to have it ruined by an inconsiderate smoker at the next table. The argument that it's "their right" in public places is BS, as far as I'm concerned. Hey, I have a right to be flatulent in public and even though there are no laws against it, out of consideration for others, I'm not . BTW, albeit no less offensive, flatulence is clinically far less harmful than second hand smoke!

I'm not sure why you questioned my moniker, but if you must know, I'm currently driving my 3rd Lincoln Navigator and will be trading it in shortly for the 2010 model. I also own a boat on which I navigate the Eastern seaboard and intra-coastal waterway. So, I figured the name was appropriate.


'Women that smoke'. The language chosen in this title, specifically the use of the pronoun 'that' as opposed to 'who' suggests the author views women as some sort of object or thing. I find it difficult to believe a man with that perception would be that concerned about smoking. I seriously doubt that if a beautiful woman who smokes showed an interest she'd be rejected. The potential for beauty and sex trumps an annoying behavior far more often than not.

WOW, so because the OP made a grammatical error, you feel that his overall view of women is skewed and should somehow be discounted?? That's brilliant... Further, trust me, there are MANY men (myself included) who could care less about a woman's physical beauty and/or sexual prowess. If she smokes, all of that would mean nothing and she would be passed by for a woman who actually cares about her health and is not an addict.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Was it Something I said?
Posted: 11/19/2009 9:03:26 PM

he could have at least let her know, and it's not about owing anybody anything,

Yeah, 'yer just not gettin' it...


it's just a matter of common courtesy.

Come on, surely you've been at this long enough to know that common courtesy is a RARE thing in online dating these days.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Was it Something I said?
Posted: 11/19/2009 8:31:24 PM

Typical for you to place the blame on the woman.

hehehe, typical response from someone who refuses to accept their part of the responsibility for situations like this.

I can assure you that not all men are this way. So, if this keeps happening over & over to a woman, there's really only ONE common denominator, right?


That's my point exactly. It was just a first date, so why would he even talk about future events with her when he already knew that there will be no future dates.

OK so we all agree that talking about future plans like that on a 1st meet & greet is rather odd behavior, right? Knowing that, WHY would a woman ignore that blatant red flag and act as if SHE'S still interested in him? Why not just be honest with the psycho guy and say, "thanks for a wonderful night, but I just don't think that we're a match". ??
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Was it Something I said?
Posted: 11/19/2009 7:59:58 PM

Has this ever happened to anyone, and more than once?

Nope, not to me. Of course, I generally pay attention to warning signs - you know, the ones where the other person (whom you've JUST met) starts making plans for things to do together in the future and then starts staring deeply into your eyes as if they're on drugs and hallucinating. Come on, Girl... you can "see the light in his eyes" on a first date!? What light is that??

My point is, if this keeps happening to you (and/or coco cure), then perhaps you both need to reassess your qualifying processes and learn how to recognize men of this nature and not fall victim to them. Either that or you need to learn how to control yourself and not become infatuated with someone you just met.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Her Orgasm
Posted: 11/19/2009 7:44:17 PM
Wrong forum, Sweetheart. Frankly, at your age, I'm rather surprised that you would feel a need to pose this kind of question. Well, unless of course, you're looking to increase traffic to your profile...
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 164 (view)
 
Women that smoke!!
Posted: 11/19/2009 7:40:21 PM

navigator6 - you can relax. I just checked my profile, and it is still hidden, and IM is turned off. I am not being seen, or contacted, by anyone. My GF will appreciate your concern, but it is groundless. Aside from scolding me for doing what I am not doing, and correcting the woman who said nicotine is colorless, have you got anything constructive to add, or any problems you need help solving? If so, fire away.

hehehe, pretty defensive there, my friend. Well, you were obviously so flustered with with my initial comment about your seemingly deceiving profile, that on the way to get your blood pressure medicine, you missed the last part of my post... you know, the part where I constructively contributed to this completely beaten dead horse of a thread.

FYI: As forum participants, literally thousands of POF members are able to view yours AND your lady friend's profiles and they have no clue whether they are hidden or not. Just food for thought...
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Althetic Child, wants to be in soccor, but shared visitation makes that impossible, suggestions?
Posted: 11/19/2009 4:33:22 PM

This would be a violation of almost any court order any one that had a lawyer worth his salt would have made sure was included. I.E. none costudeal parent has the child from 7PM Friday till 6PM Sunday every other weekend, or word close to this. If the father came to pick up the kids and they were not ready becase they were play in a game the next day. Well, no can do!!!! This is a good thing, not a bad thing.

BAH! If the parents are in a agreement about something like this, then a court order wouldn't matter one bit.

This is just another case where, through no fault of her own, the child has to suffer. I see it as a rather naive father, passing up a great, 2 to 3 hour opportunity to bond & communicate with his daughter, while also showing support for something that SHE wants to do.

Years ago I heard of a divorce/custody ruling that made sooo much sense, but I forget where. The judge ordered that the CHILDREN remain in the marital home and that the PARENTS be the ones to come & go on predetermined "visitations" (something like each one alternating a week at a time). That way, the children's day-to-day lives were not unfairly interrupted like so many are after a divorce. I thought it was an AWESOME idea! I mean, it doesn't make sense to "punish" innocent children just because parents can no longer live together.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 158 (view)
 
Women that smoke!!
Posted: 11/19/2009 1:01:51 PM

Actually, I found a smoker, gave her a choice between me and the cigs, and she chose me. She hasn't smoked since hooking up with me. She enjoys: not stinking, not being sick, and having about $300.00 extra per month to spend on fun. She did some serious mouth hosing before I'd kiss her, but she is all better now, so I kiss her a lot. The best thing is that she will now live many years longer, and get to spend them all with wonderful me.

So, does she know that "wonderful" you has an active profile on a dating web site, advertising yourself as single & looking for women for a long term relationship and not mentioning anything about your current relationship??


Oh... and for the record... nicotine is COLORLESS, so you wouldn't get any stains on your KHAK!

Ummm, I'm not sure where you get your information from, but nothing could be further from the truth. Burnt nicotine absolutely DOES stain. It stains teeth, hands, hair, clothes, furniture, walls, ceilings, etc., etc., etc. - pretty much anything & everything it comes in contact with.

The bottom line in this thread is that everyone has their own preferences. Some prefer to smoke and/or date smokers and others don't. It's not any simpler than that.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Althetic Child, wants to be in soccor, but shared visitation makes that impossible, suggestions?
Posted: 11/19/2009 12:48:39 PM

Soooo...now what? Anybody think a soccEr coach will work around that or do I need to look into another sport, if so, any suggestions?

Who knows? The best you can do is explain the situation to the soccer coach and see what he says. I seriously doubt that you're the first person to have this type of predicament.

BTW, I kind of echo oksccrgrl's sentiments about your ex. Except, rather than say flat out that he sucks, I'll just say that he doesn't seem to be very caring & understanding and is maybe a little selfish.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Job Satisfaction
Posted: 11/19/2009 10:44:24 AM
WOW, things must be really slow on the forums. This thread is FOUR YEARS old and most of the participants aren't even on POF anymore!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Althetic Child, wants to be in soccor, but shared visitation makes that impossible, suggestions?
Posted: 11/19/2009 10:36:41 AM

Any suggestions?

Yup, talk to her father and explain the situation. If her father isn't willing to make the 1 hour trip/s on Saturdays, then offer to pick her up yourself. Your child shouldn't suffer just because the 2 of you aren't together anymore - that's not HER fault. I don't know how your relationship is with your ex, but you both need to try to remember that this is NOT about you & him, it's about her - you know, the innocent one whose caught in the middle.


Any sports I haven't thought of or considered that might nor have a more flexible schedule?

If she expressed an interest and wants to play soccer, then let her try it out. The last thing that you want to do is discourage her from extra curricular activities.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
what advise i give my friend
Posted: 11/19/2009 10:27:50 AM

would any of you guys get mad just for texs 12 or 3 time,

Casinos do not allow you to use your cell phone while playing table games - not even text messaging. You have to stop playing and step back away from the table in order to do so. As a blackjack player myself, I can easily see how someone repeatedly text messaging would get very annoying. Especially if the person KNEW that you were playing at the time.



BTW OP... athletic? Really??
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
for the guys
Posted: 11/18/2009 4:21:19 PM

If you are the one left, how long do you think is enough time to try again with someone else without leaving room for them to believe that they are a rebound of any sort,

Seeing as how you're still MARRIED, you might wanna' at least wait until you're divorced! Other than that, I think that the time frame is different for everyone. Me, I think I'd feel more comfortable if the woman had been DIVORCED for at least 6 months before dating her. That's just me, though.

and yes I have two kids and take them into consideration with every choice that I make in life. And I would not bring him around them at first at least. Is this an insult to that person??

No, that's not an insult. In fact, I would be even more impressed by a woman who was very cautious about new men meeting her children. It shows me that she has her priorities straight. Revolving door boyfriends can have devastating & long term effects on children.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Relocation????
Posted: 11/18/2009 10:20:38 AM

Do you think you should know ahead of time,like before you start dating someone who lives far from you,if one of you is willing to relocate??

Absolutely!

And would you be able to not cheat,and maintain that relationship,to see if its what both partys want?

That's a mute point, because I don't cheat... ever.

And if all went well,would you move,or expect that the other party too??

I wouldn't get involved with someone who wasn't able to move to where I'm at. This definitely limits my chances of finding someone, but I'm just being realistic. I'm looking for a LTR and ultimately, marriage. I have 2 local businesses and moving from where I'm at is not an option. So, I try to only date women who are close to me.

I was in a LDR about 12 years ago and it was exhausting. We couldn't see each other during the week - which I like to do, and weekends consisted of me traveling 3 hours (round trip) on Friday night to pick her up. Then traveling another 3 hours on Sunday to drop her off. It just became too much.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Work hard and play....harder!
Posted: 11/17/2009 1:32:09 PM

What does it mean to you??

I agree with Just Jackie, but I also believe that it's another one of those waay over used cliche's that people put in their profiles.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Why would a guy you had fun with turn off?
Posted: 11/17/2009 1:29:29 PM

if he really liked me, wouldn't he want to pursue a relationship?

That's how it works with me!

I don't want to make a fool of myself with this guy, what should I do?

Chances are, things seemed to be going so well because he was just trying to get into your pants. You are obviously looking for something that he isn't. So, there's no sense in continuing with the interaction, right? Cut him loose and move on to someone whose on the same page as far as expectations in a relationship.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What's up with this???
Posted: 11/17/2009 1:22:21 PM

Is this a new thing guys are doing?

It is for some, but I don't think that that means they are expecting all of the "easy" women to contact them. It probably has more to do with the fact that they have sent TONS of initial emails to women, only to see them read/deleted, not read/deleted, and gotten no responses. So, they figure that rather than waste their time composing emails and being rejected, it's just easier to tell women that if they're interested, they should feel free to contact them.

IMO, online dating is like anything else in life - you get out of it, what you put into it. Some people get discouraged when success doesn't come as easily as they had hoped and just give up trying. Don't take it personally OP and I certainly don't suggest that you give up sending emails to men that you're interested in. I admire women like you and eventually, so will the man/men that you're interested in. So, just keep plugging away and doing what you're doing.

Good luck!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 75 (view)
 
Well you chose them
Posted: 11/17/2009 12:12:46 PM

All the OP was asking is WHY you feel the need to do this? So why do you? As I've stated you are not making them realize anything that they don't already know and you aren't going to stop them from doing it again if they choose to.(Which I believe is what you said was your hope in reminding them of their poor choices- that they wouldn't make the same mistake or something) Never going to happen. So why all the effort in being negative?

I think that in my 1st post in this thread, I made my opinion pretty clear. No more than 15 minutes later, you jumped all over me in an accusatory manner implying that because of my opinion, that I somehow felt that I was above everyone else - a post which actually contributed NOTHING to the thread. Then, you continued your rant, accusing me of being a negative person and having "online balls", when nothing could be further from the truth.

What you don't seem to understand is that forums are for discussion and the sharing of opinions. This means that all different kinds of opinions are going to be voiced and not all of them are going to be happy and positive. That doesn't mean that the discussion has to turn nasty, accusatory, and turn personal. What part of the forum concept is so hard for you to understand?

In looking back through the thread, you have attacked nearly everything I've said/wrote. Now, if we were in grade school, I'd have to wonder if maybe you actually had a crush on me. If that's really what's going on here, then understand that I'm flattered, but you're a bit too young for me!


I mean, if someone kept hitting themselves in the head with a hammer and then complaining about constant headaches, would you then not suggest that they just quit hitting themselves in the head with a hammer?

Honestly i wouldn't say sh!t to them. Why do I care?

Then why do you care so much about what I've posted here? Why even bother saying sh!t to me?? This kinda points towards the whole crush-thing again. If that's the case, let's just be adult about it and get it right out in the open!


Maybe you should go into social work since you care so much about others.

It may surprise you to know that this was actually suggested to me by a long time client of mine who spent 15 years as a marriage counselor! Over the years, she had become impressed with my logical & methodical way of thinking and approaching problems. So, taken fab-mom, should we set up an appointment? Shoot me an email and we can get started because... I really do care about you.

Seriously, don't you think that it's time to just let this go and accept the fact that we have very different opinions and reasons for being here? I mean, that would be the adult thing to do, right?
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
My best friend is gay
Posted: 11/17/2009 9:51:06 AM
Simply put, your BF is insecure. I seriously doubt that your best friend being gay has anything to do with it.


1. have any of you guys ever dated a woman with a gay best friend?
Yes.
2. how did you feel about their friendship? intimidated, confused, jealous etc.
Annoyed much more so than any of the other words you used, especially the really flamboyant ones. Why? Because it's just like when she had a really annoying female best friend, and because so many women find the opinion of a gay man to be gospel. [There was this really annoying (and artificial) thing where she found everything a gay guy said to be "cute" or intriguing.] And because a straight man generally has no desire to hear about the sex life of a gay man.
I just want to get a good perspective on how a man would feel about this situation. Thank you
Many, dare I say most, of us would find it annoying to some degree, despite the political correctness you may get here.

Hehehe, you see, here's yet another insecure guy! AND, the fact that I say that has nothing to do with being politically correct. Dude, if you were secure with YOURSELF, you wouldn't feel annoyed by ANYONE having a friendship with your GF.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/17/2009 9:36:10 AM

What's wrong with Nicolas Cage???? I think he's HOT!

Exactly! To discount someone based on such a trivial & unrelated issue that would really play NO part in achieving a successful relationship, doesn't make sense to me.


If I was a man, I would find Pam Anderson hot....what is the problem with that?

HAH! Hell, my ex GF thought that Pam Anderson was hot! She admired her ability to stay in such great shape at her age.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 70 (view)
 
Well you chose them
Posted: 11/17/2009 9:31:07 AM

I think anyone who makes a point to throw negativity out is just a negative person who is inviting drama into their life. No matter how much anyone says differently. if you say things like "You chose him so deal with it" or "you made your bed now F'n lie in it" those have very negative connotations and you deserve the drama it gets.

Negative connotations?? Reminding a b!tching & complaining person that it was their own decision/s that put them in the position they're in and as such, they really have no right to continually complain, is a negative connotation? In fact, isn't it just the truth and a way to try and make them aware of how foolish their complaining is making them look? I mean, if someone kept hitting themselves in the head with a hammer and then complaining about constant headaches, would you then not suggest that they just quit hitting themselves in the head with a hammer?


What would you expect from a person that you said that to face to face? It is easy to grow a pair online and be all honest but I doubt the majority of you are that "honest" in reality. Why even bother to say anything at all? Oh that's right....you really think by saying something that this person will see the light and the error of their ways all because you were "honest" with them. Yeah...ok that is going to happen.

Personally, I wouldn't say anything on the forums that I wouldn't say to someone's face. Anything other than that, and I wouldn't be being true to myself. Perhaps YOU have a different persona online, but I assure you that I don't. I'm one of the ones who wanted to keep forum posts attached to profiles on POF. However, there were some who fought against it, because they admitted that the things they wrote on the forums were very different from the way the were in real life and they didn't want potential suitors to see their "forum alter egos". Frankly, most of the forum regulars now seem pretty genuine to me and unless I'm waaay off the mark, I think that most would have the same opinions and willingness to voice them in real life. It's not about growing an online pair. It's about just being who you are and being honest. So, where you get the idea that the majority are not this honest in real life, is beyond me. I truly think that those with 2 different personas are among the minority here and are usually pretty easy to spot.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 51 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/17/2009 8:41:15 AM

Personal attacks on people, particularly those based on looks, are not reasonable responses but instead illustrations of how unintelligent you must truly be.

Well, it's a good thing that you joined the party late. One of the stipulations in OP's original profile was that a man should NOT contact her if he thinks that Pam Anderson is attractive. How juvenile and unintelligent is that!? Further, she had the no-contact stipulation if the man didn't think that John Mayer was the greatest thing since sliced bread...


BTW, Navigator, I wish I could say your comment about Pam Anderson suprises me but it doesn't

Uh huh, you just continue to show your pettiness. Sweetheart, Pam Anderson is a mere fantasy in most men's lives and for you to be so incredibly jealous of someone like that is very telling. To completely discount a man because he finds a certain celebrity attractive, especially one who is so unattainable, or just because he doesn't enjoy the music of one particular musician is just plain ludacris.

I will admit that your profile is MUCH better than it was and other than the contradiction in the last paragraph, may work out well for you. I do hope it does.


I have received some good input here. I tweaked my profile a little so that may help. I don't mind corrective critisism as long as it 1) stays on topic and 2) is not nasty such as name calling or picking apart my profile which I did not ask for.

Something that you need to understand is that when you start a thread and ask a question, the first thing that any logically thinking person will do is look at your profile. It gives further insight into the type of person you are and enables us to form better opinions and give better responses. "Picking apart" a profile is all part of the process and if you aren't up for that, then you shouldn't start threads. BTW, you DO seem to have benefited from the profile dissection because you did tweak it based on the ripping you received. So, on behalf of myself and my fellow "pickers" I'd like to say that... you're welcome!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Is there a age,where I am expected to not dress sexy,or cut my hair?
Posted: 11/16/2009 5:09:02 PM
Personally, I think it all has to do with the woman, her attitude, and exactly what she considers sexy/classy. I know a number of women in their 50's who can wear jeans & a tee shirt and look incredibly sexy (one of 'em even right here on the forums!). On the other hand, I know women in their 20's who think they're dressing & looking sexy and actually look like cheap whores.

So OP, the only real way for us to judge whether you're classy-sexy or whory-sexy, is for you to post some pictures!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Marriages the second time around
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:51:29 PM
People, the OP closed her account over 2 YEARS ago!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Suffocating Men
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:44:05 PM

Why so some men behave like stalkers , text and email you 24/7 to keep tabs on you. so you feel suffocated so withdraw as you want your own life? Also why do they feel the need to try to run my life when I can run my own? The person concerned said they where trying to protect me when I can look after and protect myself.

I'm sorry, but once again, I'm gonna say it:
YOU PICKED 'EM!

Come on Girl, surely there were clues. This is classic behavior for someone who is extremely insecure and lacks self esteem. Work on your qualifying process and next time, don't ignore red flags.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:29:05 PM
hehehe, since this thread has basically turned into free-for-all and may be deleted anyway, I'd like to just add:
I think that Pam Anderson is a fine looking woman!
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
To Unread/Delete or Just Plain Block
Posted: 11/16/2009 1:28:40 PM
Maybe I'm missing something here?? You're dating someone and you're concerned about not reading and deleting messages from other men?? If that's correct, why don't you just say that you're not single/not looking on your profile? I mean, your profile gives no indication that you are in a relationship. In fact, it even describes the type of man you're looking for. So... IDK... I'm confused...


Hint: This is a story with a happy ending.

hehehe, most men love "happy endings".
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Bringing up marriage on the first date?
Posted: 11/16/2009 12:17:05 PM

I've been on two dates with different people and both brought up "marriage" within the first hour!!!
Not talking about past marriages but hinting towards future, they barely knew my name!
Women hate this as much as men do!! Slowwwwwwww down brother!

OK, I'll say it: YOU PICKED 'EM!

Seriously, we would need to know in what context marriage came up. Was it, "some day I would like to get married again" OR "OMFG, I want to marry you!"? If it was the "some day" one, then no big deal. It sounds like he/they were just being honest - no harm, no foul. If it was the latter, then perhaps you need to reassess your qualifying process?
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Marriages the second time around
Posted: 11/16/2009 12:09:32 PM
hehehe 5 of the 6 original participants in this 3 month old thread, including the OP, aren't even active here anymore!

So, I'm not sure who you guys are talking too??
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
WHY WON'T HE JUST GIVE UP?
Posted: 11/16/2009 12:03:56 PM
It sounds like at this point you're dangling a banana in front of a gorilla and expecting him not to go after it. So... just stop hanging out with him.

There, problem solved.
 Navigator6
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Are the cards stacked against me?
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:25:03 AM

Svetlana blue you are REALLY giving me advice on my profile??? Your profile pic looks like a blow up doll....since we're all about honesty here

I HAVE MET WAY TO MANY : fat, obese, unemployed, living with mommy and daddy, still married, narcissist, unfit, living with roomates and needy drama kings. Get recent pictures. Stop lying to people. Stop presenting yourself as someone you are not.

Some of you are terribly confused about "Average" & "Athletic" as body types. If you tell someone a few extra Holiday pounds, and I have to ask, "how many Holidays were you referring to?" we have a problem. And I know the women on here do it to. However, I do not.

I use a gym 6 days a week. I use free weights. I eat high protein/low carbs. I am fit. I have an Athletic background (Gymnast 16 years), (High Dive 4 years), &(Equine Hunter/Jumper 20 years) So trust me, I know what FIT is. I am Russian, and was adopted and raised in the United States since I was a baby. I am genitically built large/thick and I have a lot of muscle. If you want tiny, fraile, skinny or malnutritioned, I am not for you. My body fat is average/low and will be alot lower in 5 months. I have no problem showing some skin. At least, UNLIKE most of you, what you see is what you get. Photos are recent, of me and posted by me.

They really need an option on here for "Pillsbury Doughboy" for MOST of the men I have met when it refers to bidy type.

I am attracted to TALL MUSCULAR FIT MEN. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.

And... she continues to confirm my contention that she has a horrible attitude. Once again, IMO it's not your financial/living situation that places you at a disadvantage in the dating world. It's your attitude!

If I'm pissed, wait until the next day it'll pass, if we had a fight & couldn't resolve it with communication, wake up and it's over

You see, adding the little part about communication, does NOTHING to improve the way a man will look at this - it's like putting lipstick on a pig. You still come off as a my-way-or-the-highway b!tch. Making a man wait until YOU decide that you aren't pissed anymore is an incredibly destructive and ineffective form of conflict resolution.
 
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