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HardwoodfloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

Msg: 35 (view)

Unsure about church singles Posted: 11/24/2009 2:43:29 PM
OP, I tend to agree with what saphireeyes said. Churches have Singles' Groups, Youth Groups, Women's groups, Men's Groups, etc as a way to attract new members and to retain the members they already have. If organized Christianity puts you off, you may not want to attend such functions. On the other hand, different congregations will vary in how "aggressive" they are in recruiting new members. Your long term presence as a non-member at singles' functions might not be a big deal at all in some churches. I guess it wouldn't hurt to check it out if the singles' group is more social than religious. I do agree with saphireeyes that religion is too serious a thing to be used as a vehicle to meet women.

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking? Posted: 11/23/2009 4:40:59 PM
el.metaleiro, Where, exactly, is the line between "being on the prowl", on the one hand, and going to Meetup, or going on the "Single gentlemen's romance tour" on the other? Aren't those just less intensive forms of "being on the prowl"? You note that if one lives in a more populated area one will have more options, and that is exactly right. There are guys who live in areas of the country where there are few opportunities to interact with the opposite sex. They can't afford to be so fatalistic, waiting for G*d or Fate to throw a woman in their path. "Seek, and ye shall find, ask, and ye shall receive", would seem to be better advice in some circumstances than "When you seek it, you cannot find it" Whether we admit it or not, making the "approach" is mostly a man's dilemma. Yes, you can meet a lot of nice people and have lots of nice conversations approaching folks "with no agenda", but at some point a man has to shift gears and develop an agenda, and ask that "definite question" or nothing will ever happen. Women, for the most part don't do the asking, and if a man doesn't, he can later ask himself whatever happened to that interesting woman that he had that agendaless conversation with. It may be that a woman can meet men without having an agenda, and without putting some affirmative effort into it, but I'd guess there are a lot of men (maybe most) who really have no choice but to make the effort. Here's the question that has been danced around in this and numerous other threads: How does a guy make the transition from that non-threatening, agendaless conversation to making an actual connection with a woman? Does the connection "just happen" if neither party makes any effort?

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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What do you think about cougars? Posted: 11/18/2009 11:16:52 AM
I avoid them. I've never had any luck with Mercurys or other Ford vehicles.

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Is being yourself really good advice? Posted: 11/18/2009 11:02:36 AM
Well, it's not BAD advice. You can't be anyone other than yourself, and you shouldn't try to be. But, in my experience, 90% of the time when someone tells you to "just be yourself", they really don't have a clue as to what you should do, but don't want to admit it.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking? Posted: 11/18/2009 9:52:31 AM
I agree with Chitownguy, the whole business of approaching women out and about in "random" places is something young guys do when they're in school. At that point in one's life most of the women a guy meets are about his age and most likely unattached. When you get out of school and into the adult world of working for a living, you find that it's not completely socially acceptable to approach random women out and about, the way it was around campus. So yes, the number of acceptable places to meet women has effectively gotten smaller as you get older. Of course some people never grow up, and want to keep acting the way they did as students. Being a single adult is a lot different from being single as a student, unfortunately this is something nobody wants to tell you when you're young.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Would you message someone if you knew they weren't going to respond? Posted: 11/18/2009 9:05:40 AM
I have seen two women's profiles which included language to the effect of "I get alot of messages, so don't feel bad if I don't respond to you", so it can't be entirely an urban myth. Or maybe that's just a pre-emptive excuse for not responding. And no, I don't bother to message women whose profiles contain those sorts of statements.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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The Right apporach Posted: 11/18/2009 8:45:56 AM
I find it interesting that much comment was made and advice given about the OP's admitted nervousness and camera-shyness, but no one has taken on his question as to what is the "right approach".

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Guys, Is It An Urban Myth Or Are Women With Tats Easier Than Women With None? Posted: 11/17/2009 9:51:39 AM
Eh, once upon a time, mostly the only people who had tattoos were guys who had been in the service, or had done time in prison. Some time about 35 years ago(if I remember correctly) they became popular among the more rebellious and "transgressive" hip, uptown youth, male and female. Punkers and such, maybe others. Since women with tats at that time were considered "rebellious and transgressive", or anyway wanted people to think that they were, maybe they were, then, more rebellious and transgressive in their sexual behavior. Maybe. Since tattoos have become more broadly fashionable, I don't think there's much connection to sexual behavior, if there ever was.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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The odds stacked for ladies against men, Hmmm..Interesting! Posted: 11/16/2009 9:41:52 AM
acuddler, You are correct in thinking that men find ways to get themselves killed, thereby increasing the proportion of women in the population. However, men outnumber women in all age ranges up to about 45 or so, it is after that age that women begin to outnumber men. If you are a single guy in what is referred to as "marriageable age", the fact that women outnumber men in the older age ranges is of little comfort. The claim that men outnumber women in "small areas" is misleading. I know from personal experience that many(maybe most) rural and small town communities in the Midwest do have more unattached men than women, and here's the reason: a considerable percentage of the young people who grow up in those areas leave because of the lack of job opportunities, and women leave at a greater rate than the men, who find work locally in agriculture, mining, manufacturing and other historically male occupations. In many such communities, women do outnumber men, but the greater number of unattached women are at least a generation older than the majority of the unattached men. In that kind of community there is little or no "dating culture", and unattached young men are consigned to "fifth wheel" status, socially.

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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IS IT TRUE THAT A WOMAN SHOULDN’T PURSUE A MAN? Posted: 11/11/2009 8:52:29 AM
I would agree with the other posters who say that there's a difference between "pursuing"/"chasing", and initiating/approaching/showing interest. However, I will offer this observation for discussion: It seems to me that in social situations where available men outnumber available women, women tend to be both more passive and more guarded; where available women outnumber available men, women tend to be less passive, less guarded and more approachable. Do men and women tend to base their behavior on the perceived chances of success? Any thoughts?

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Online Dating v Traditional Methods of Dating Posted: 11/11/2009 8:24:04 AM
OP, What do you consider "traditional"? Do you consider the courtship practices of the last half of the 20th century to be "traditional"? Or are you taking a longer historical view? Courtship in the early 20th and late 19th centuries was different yet. I would suggest that the following are some of the attraction of online meeting: 1 Online seems to give one access to a larger pool of potential partners. In fact, though, you are still subject to geographical limitations, since many are not interested in meeting anyone who is geographically distant. 2 There is a perception(by men) that meeting online will be less subject to traditional gender roles, that men and women can more easily meet on an equal basis online. This doesnt seem to be the case in reality, but a lot of men are initially attracted to online meeting for this reason. 3 Meeting people online is a strictly personal, private and individual undertaking; you do not need the assistance or approval of your family, friends, neighbors or co-workers to meet someone online. There is no social pressure to get into a certain type of relationship, but there is also very little help or support either. You are on your own, for better or worse.

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Being single = having no life ?? Posted: 11/9/2009 11:39:09 AM
Well, don't judge your self worth on whether or not you are in a relationship. Of course that's easy to say. Some situations are easier to be single in, and some are a lot harder. In my experience, it's a lot easier to be single and happy in communities where there are a fair number of other single folk. In communities where mostly everyone is paired off you can hardly escape being reminded of your singleness. Sometimes it's people innocently applying social pressure on you, but sometimes it's just you observing that the social life tends to revolve around "coupleness". I guess in some situations you just have to find things you like to do, enjoy them, and just keep an optimistic attitude and a stiff upper lip.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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I figured out the girls on POF Posted: 11/6/2009 3:29:10 PM
sammylg, I agree, up to a point, with your analysis. My comments were directed at postings in other threads which asserted that gender ratio on POF (or any other venue) has NO effect on an individual's chances. As a practical matter, "the market" does not consist of all the members of the opposite gender, but only of those who are in a similar age range, and in a narrow geographic range, looking for roughly the same kind of "relationship" . If the ratio within those parameters is against you, the overall numbers on POF won't help you, and that will be true no matter how hard you "work" at it.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Are professional pictures better? Posted: 11/5/2009 1:09:44 PM
I'm not as obsessed with pics as some on here, though I would guess that "nice" pics would be an advantage. However, when I see pictures on a woman's profile that are obviously professional and show her to look like a model(particularly some of the more provocative ones) I get to wondering if she's real, or some sort of scammer.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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How can you meet girls if you don't get out? Posted: 11/4/2009 9:13:34 AM
I agree with greyfeld. However, some folks evidently think that the doctrine of "No pain, no gain," should be applied to social interaction.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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approaching a woman cold turkey... Posted: 11/3/2009 4:18:22 PM
Do a thread search. Seems to me there was another thread where the female consensus was that cold approaches by strange men were unwelcome.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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How can you meet girls if you don't get out? Posted: 11/3/2009 4:09:05 PM
No, I assumed they were offended by the vitriolic nature of their posts. Do the flaws in the OP's argument necessarily indicate that he is lazy? I think calling the OP "lazy" is an assumption. And really, is it any skin off your nose whether shyness is a virtue or a hindrance to the OP?

HardwoodFloorBoard

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why dont most men keep it trimmed ?? Posted: 11/3/2009 2:33:20 PM
I don't trim, don't shave, and I don't expect women to, either.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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How can you meet girls if you don't get out? Posted: 11/3/2009 2:11:25 PM
OP, You seem to have tapped into some hidden vein of hatred on here. You are being called lazy, "entitled" etc, etc, for having asked a reasonable question. I don't know if it is the question which offends some on here, or the possible answers, or maybe the lack of answers. I think the comment about not liking to work out hit an especially raw nerve with some folks. (What are you, some kind of subversive?) Take it all with a large grain of salt. One woman said you were lazy; in other threads women are saying that guys who work too hard at meeting women come across as "desperate" or "creepy". You're damned if you do and damned if you don't on here. I have to agree, if you don't reach out, somehow, some way, some where, you'll never meet anybody. But I do see where you're coming from: if you engage in some activity, social or otherwise. just to meet women, you will be judged insincere. I would also say, from having read through these fora for about a year and a half, that there is a certain intolerance of shyness and introversion. Downright bigotry in some cases.

HardwoodFloorBoard

Joined: 3/27/2008

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I figured out the girls on POF Posted: 11/3/2009 1:41:44 PM
Strapping, So you don't agree with the folks who have asserted (in other threads) that the ratio of men to women on here does not matter? I can't quite see their reasoning, but they seemed pretty sure of it. Maybe because they were somehow benefitting from it. Who knows?

HardwoodFloorBoard

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when did coffee become a first date? Posted: 10/26/2009 7:50:45 AM
To my mind, any time you make arrangements to meet someone at a certain time/place, that is a "date". So, as far as I'm concerned, meeting for coffee is just as much a "date" as meeting for a candle-lit dinner, or an afternoon of rollerskating. Not all dates are necessarily romantic assignations.

HardwoodFloorBoard

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Is Online dating ruining it for the real world of dating? Posted: 10/24/2009 1:28:45 PM
OP, your age might have something to do with the lack of people out there. When you were 21, nearly everyone your age, or anyway a large percentage of them, were unattached. A lot have paired off in the years since. You also have adult responsibilities and time commitments that you didn't when you were younger, so do other folk your age, which is why it's harder to meet anyone. If you were to hang around where the 20-somethings do, you'd see lots of them, but few your own age. That's why POF skews older.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Net Neutrality Posted: 10/24/2009 10:52:44 AM
But if the web is regulated by the FCC, will it really be neutral? Or will some opinions be suppressed for political reasons? Can the government be trusted to keep the net free?

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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The reason that partisanship sucks. Posted: 10/24/2009 10:48:23 AM
Sure,Elected representatives should represent the voters who put them there, but I, as a Republican voter, am going to continue to support/vote for people who agree with my views. The Republican party leadership should reflect the views of the rank and file Republican voters, shouldn't it? Why should they listen to a Democrat like you? You know, Dance, you might just consider that there are reasonable people of good will who disagree with your views. I think the country would be better off if we all could agree to disagree.

hardwood69

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Mother relinquishes all rights to her son because she can't afford his healthcare Posted: 10/24/2009 10:07:34 AM
I don't believe that it's possible to voluntarily relinquish parental rights/responsibilities to the state. If it were, every dead-beat dad/mother would do it. That woman must have been adjudged an unfit parent.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Political Leaning/Allegiance? Posted: 10/24/2009 10:04:19 AM
So what positions do Ghandi and the Dalai Lama take on real political issues like taxation, public debt, federalism, or recall? (I know, Ghandi, being dead, cant be expected to take a position) Both of those "tests" are complete bullsh*t. The questions are framed in such a way as to steer people into giving certain socially acceptable answers, which steers respondents into extreme partisan position. Complete and utter Bull!

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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The reason that partisanship sucks. Posted: 10/24/2009 9:41:19 AM
Face it Dance, you don't want Republicans to be an effective opposition, you want them to roll over and be lap dogs for the Democrats. The Republicans should fight for what they believe is right regardless of what the Obama regime and its lackeys think. THAT is what an opposition party is supposed to do. I find it hard to believe that you, or any other Democrat/liberal has the best interests of the Republican party in mind when you offer them advice; you are wanting them to do what you think will advance the policies YOU favor. If you want to influence the Republican party, then register as a Republican and vote in their primary. Hell, Dance, you should run for Republican committeeman!

hardwood69

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Does your town or area offer any groups for older singles? Posted: 10/24/2009 9:18:51 AM
About 25 years ago, in the small central Illinois town where I was then living, one of the local churches decided to start up non-denominational a single's group. About 50 people showed up at the organizational meeting: roughly 35 men, mostly in their 20's, and none much over 40; and 15 or so women, only three of whom were under 35, and some in their 60's. Most of those younger guys never came back. The group's bi-monthly meetings tended to be either predominantly 30ish men or 50ish women. As time went on the average age rose so that a couple years later most of those active in the group were widowed retirees. When it finally folded up, I'm told that there was hardly anyone much under 65. Since the elderly are the largest demographic group in that community(like many other small midwestern communities), it's not surprising that it developed that way.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men Posted: 10/24/2009 8:34:57 AM
TuffLuv, Why don't you try thinking about it like this: Would you rather be a bidder at an auction where 400 bidders are bidding on 200 items; or, A bidder at an auction where 400 bidders were bidding on 400 items? At the first auction you are guaranteed to either not buy, or pay too much. Sound like a good deal to you?

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Women at Pubs by Themselves Posted: 10/24/2009 8:28:11 AM
Personally, I tend not to spend much time in bars by myself unless I'm really thirsty, or really bored and wanting to get out somewhere. It's one thing to socialize with friends, or some other patron, or the bartender, butI have a hard time sitting in a bar by myself for more time than it takes to drink one beer. So, when I see a woman sitting, drinking by herself, yeah, I wonder. But I don't make any assumptions. And frankly, I really don't see that many women out by themselves.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Initiating contact Posted: 10/24/2009 8:06:33 AM
I think a lot of guys, maybe most, get on a site like POF thinking that the women will make an equal effort to meet men. Certainly the site operators do nothing to discourage such belief. Once on here we discover that, just like IRL, we men are expected to take the initiative. I regard an unsolicited contact from a woman as a pleasant surprise. Frankly, I respond to any message that appears to have come from a real woman.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Venus Mars War ... Posted: 10/24/2009 7:54:08 AM
The relative anonymity of the web allows people to vent their frustrations in ways that would never be tolerated IRL. Also, I think, that same anonymity allows folks to address subjects that they may be reluctant to raise in a real life, face to face situation. That's not to suggest that their frustration is not real, though.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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The reason that partisanship sucks. Posted: 10/23/2009 4:29:30 PM
Dancecard, "My patience is wearing thin with the current GOP~Who are your leaders today?~" You've identified yourself as a Democrat, why do you care about the state of GOP leadership? Do you want them to be a more effective opposition party? Would you have more"patience" with Republicans if they were winning the debate? What is it you want from them? I get the impression that you want them to stop being an opposition party and for them to shout "Amen" to everything that the Democrats say and do. And one other thing, if liberals are so open to change and new ideas, why do they hold on so tightly to rusted-out relics like Social Security? Seems to me that the "New Deal Legacy" is the status quo that "liberals" want to preserve.

hardwood69

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Your opinion on where the difference lies? Posted: 10/23/2009 3:55:04 PM
It's all relative since it's a matter of proportion rather than a matter of pounds. A woman who is 5'10" can carry more weight than one who is 5'0". Some folks are just built with broader frames too. Add to that the subjectivity in terms like "average", and "a few extra pounds". I don't think that there could ever be any general agreement about what's "average", what's "a few extra", what's "curvy", etc.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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What do you put in your first mail to some one? Posted: 10/23/2009 3:42:48 PM
I'm with the OP, sometimes it's just hard to think of something sincere to write to someone you are interested in. I find myself questioning the sincerity of every line I write. On the other hand, if I'm not particularly interested in someone, I can write a message without worrying about my sincerity or intentions.

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Are Russian Women Different? Posted: 10/23/2009 3:38:43 PM
Russian women are different from American women in that they are more likely to be able to speak Russian........

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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do we REALLY want a relationship? Posted: 10/23/2009 3:29:57 PM
I find myself wondering whether the people who say they absolutely won't settle see themselves as having many options, and therefore refuse to choose one; and whether people who end up settling did so because they realized that they really had few options, and therefore exercised one while it was available. Are our "requirements" a consequence of the options available to us? Do more options make us choosier? Are you less likely to settle if you believe you will continue to meet sufficient numbers of new potential partners than if you believe that the supply is limited?

hardwood69

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Popular ERRONEOUS Wise sayings... Posted: 10/23/2009 1:52:43 PM
"History belongs to the winners" The people who write the history generally portray THEIR side as the Good Guys. The victors in any conflict are generally in a better position to write the history. WindRoper, don't forget about our good friend and ally "uncle" Joe Stalin.

hardwood69

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Where's your head at. part 1 politics Posted: 10/23/2009 1:43:03 PM
"...... the system we have is a winner takes all system where one who gets more than 50% wins all the power." Sorry, NobushLover, you are mistaken in that. Except for presidential elections, almost all elective public offices in the US, both state and federal, require only a plurality to win. That is, the candidate who gets the most votes, not necessarily a majority of the votes cast, wins. If there are three candidates for one US senate seat(or governorship, or county sheriff), and one candidate gets 45%, another gets 40% and the third gets 15%, the one with 45% wins. The US Constitution requires that a candidate for the Presidency get an absolute majority of electoral votes to be elected, which does not necessarily mean a majority of the popular vote. Clinton, for example won a majority of electoral votes, but only got a 43% plurality of the popular vote. While the electoral college system is often said to work against third parties, they don't have too much success getting into lower offices that require only a plurality, either.

hardwood69

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the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men Posted: 10/23/2009 12:53:50 PM
Where is your zip code maximus? Those results are about what I would expect.

hardwood69

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Why do people with no photo get moody when I dont want to chat?? Posted: 10/23/2009 9:46:56 AM
And here I was thinking that there was no social pressure on the web.

hardwood69

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Liberal vs conserative Posted: 10/22/2009 8:13:45 AM
I would date a woman of the "opposite" political persuasion who was attractive to me so long as she was willing to accept my beliefs and lifestyle choices: I'm a country dweller, a meat eater, gun-owner and a church-goer, all of which seem to be hot-buttons for some folks. And my estate plan is intended to benefit my family, not the government. I'd like to think I could tolerate someone else's beliefs and choices if I received the same toleration in return.

hardwood69

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Where to meet someone special? Posted: 10/21/2009 2:35:10 PM
Interesting how few women have anything to add to this thread.

hardwood69

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Confidence - the double edged sword Posted: 10/21/2009 8:21:42 AM
"Confidence is being ready to go home alone, without a phone number, and being completely happy to do just that". Confidence, or fatalism?

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

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Flirt Your Way to Success? Posted: 10/21/2009 8:09:45 AM
Here's the problem with flirting, at least for me: I've never been able to tell the women who are actually flirting with me from the women who just have flirtyish mannerisms. Consequently, I am reluctant to respond in anything more than a generally "friendly" manner.

hardwood69

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Where to meet someone special? Posted: 10/20/2009 3:24:20 PM
"Chicks can be picked up anywhere....." Yes, in theory, but they are a lot more likely to be found in some places than in others. The OP is asking which are the likely places. If I knew, I would tell you OP.

hardwood69

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people in small towns...how do you find dates? Posted: 10/17/2009 11:24:34 AM
^^^^But, of course, there are fewer people crossing your path in a small town, that's the problem.

hardwood69

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the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men Posted: 10/17/2009 11:05:21 AM
So JJ, It's not easy for women because they get a lot of messages from guys they aren't interested in; It's not easy for men because there are relatively few women that we are interested in contacting, and even fewer of those we do contact will be interested in us. I don't know if those really cancel each other out, if that's what you're trying to say. As far as"sucking it up" and writing "quality" profiles and messages, that might improve the chances of an individual man, but it can't help all men, if men outnumber women. I've pitched this one before, but so far none of you ladies who claim the gender ratio doesn't matter haven't taken a swing at it, let's try it again ladies: If you knew upfront that women outnumbered men on a site 56 to 44%, and that you would have to do most of the initiating, would you bother to post a profile? And verity, If the OP had said "stacked against men" rather than "stacked in favor of women" would that have been uncontroversial, or would there be posts arguing with the OP anyway?

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

Msg: 71 (view)

the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men Posted: 10/16/2009 8:37:53 AM
And here's another thought: Those of you ladies who claim that the gender ratio on here is, or shouldn't be a big deal, would you bother to post a profile on a site like this if you had knew up front that female members out-number males by 8-10%, and that you are unlikely to get many unsolicited messages from men? Would the ratio not matter? Be honest now. Would you take the bait the way men have on here?

hardwood69

Joined: 3/27/2008

Msg: 70 (view)

the odds of POF... STACKED for ladies, discouraging for men Posted: 10/16/2009 8:13:49 AM
Hey, la dee da, Why don't you make a fake male account and see how that goes? You might have a real blast searching women's profiles, reading them and then composing those not-too-short-not-too-long, well-thought-out, polite, respectful introductory messages. It could be a wonderful time-killer for you. And erinlove, If you don't want to be contacted by guys who don't read your profile and only look at your pictures, why don't you delete your pictures for a while and see how that goes?

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