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lbiker

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Tulsa And Surrounding Get Together Again!!! Posted: 8/16/2009 7:22:55 PM
Sounds fun to me Thanks for the invite

lbiker

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Should men be bolder in dating, sex and relationships? Posted: 8/8/2009 2:44:14 PM
I love the title of this thread.!!! Men ...bold??? in meeting someone..well if they were,,this dating site wouldn't have 1/2 the people on it..Regardless of "modern standards" of dating,,the majority of the females are still waiting on the male. The male is "supposed" to be a man..right? Leader,,bold, stronger, all that stuff right??? But he is to _______ speak to a female? Freud??? PFFFTTTTT dopeheaded twirp.. Men should be themself. If you are shy,,don't whine about no dates. If you are not a coward, can talk to others,,you will have dates. If you have manners, are easy to talk to, and are clean..you will have alot of dates. Same for females. All of us have been with those that are rude, slow, dumb, happy, whatever..that is dating.

lbiker

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Why are some men afraid to express their feelings? Posted: 8/7/2009 8:50:16 PM
Maybe by not saying the words you want to hear.. He is telling you how he feels about you.

lbiker

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question for women over 40 Posted: 8/2/2009 8:46:40 PM
Yes I learn from my mistakes. The next question..If he looks like someone I knew before=we do look for a certain look. That is what we are atrracted to. Just because you look like someone I used to know..does not mean you are them. No there looks would not stop me. Are you talking about attitudes? Different people have and react differently. Are you talking about habits? Addictions? Not sure what you mean.

lbiker

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Butterfly flew away Posted: 8/2/2009 4:58:31 PM
Hi Op I understand this is just your side of the story. From this, I hear..3 months of a relationship. It sounds like you both play games. Hiding the dating profile. Making agreements about who is doing what. Fighting every week. Temptation brought about the snoop. And you got caught. Because you took the bait,,and the games continue. I didn't hear both of you agreeing to be in a committed relationship. It sounds like you both were trying to control each other. Both very insecure, and unable to give an honest complete committment. For her,,waiting for something better to come along. For you..waiting for her approval of you being worthy of her. I'm sorry for your pain. I would rather find someone that would commit to a deep sincere relationship without the control issues. Best to you.

lbiker

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I have only one question, WTF?! Posted: 8/1/2009 9:21:46 PM
I have a complaint..well really more than 1,,so here we go!!! That picture of you.. if I could talk,,just can't stop drooling... Your too young...still drooling....can't read what your profile says.....still looking at the pictures......c Cant concentrate...what was the question??? WTF???? yeah I know that feeling..

lbiker

Joined: 4/24/2008

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Forgiveness Posted: 8/1/2009 9:13:05 PM
Emotionally recovered? By reading your post, the words you have chosen show anger. Your own words express frustration, anger, and bitterness about the person who is impotant to you. What is really interesting is the words you left in Capital letters. FORGIVE,,NOT YOU. I just thought this would be an easy way to show you how denial can't always hide you real feelings. The Mantra..as you say..from profesionals is from years of work. The layers of abuse go in many directions, emotions, and depths of emotions. Some people are able to go deep enough to feel the anger, and other emotions, and work through them. Other can't. Some can go through some layers, and then later with another situation, go to the depth of the first abuse. It only hurts you, no one else. Emotional Honesty is the hardest of all.

lbiker

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So why are a man's hands so attractive to women? Posted: 7/30/2009 10:35:59 PM
They are so warm pressing in the small of your back. They can be so gentle, for being so large. They can hold us to comfort us, so tender. They connect us. They completely wrap around our necks, with such gentleness. They pull our bodies into theirs with direction and love. They pick us up off the ground, and never leave a mark, The most comforting, needed, warmth..The hands of love.

lbiker

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Did you keep your wedding photos? Posted: 7/30/2009 10:28:36 PM
Yes I kept mine. I still think they are great..Can't replace all the family in those photos. His parents and my dad are gone now. Those pictures, they were in good health, and alot of fun to be around. My neices and nephews were little, and so they enjoy looking at them. They are great for my kids. I actually was young once, and they still tease me about that. That day was an important day. It was my wedding..Yes I will give them all to the kids.

lbiker

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The longer I am with him, the needer I become Posted: 7/30/2009 10:10:57 PM
Aren't we all afraid of getting hurt? Yes being in a relationship is a risk, of becoming dependent on another, of loseing oneself, of being left. But what about the positive??? Being in a relationship can actually allow 2 people to be in a loving world. It can allow you to grow together to feel as one,,sharing and working, yet still being individuals. And what if..you both decide to stay together??? Then what??? When a relationship is new..its akward, feels funny, and those old haunts come a calling. The secret,,Its a NEW relationship..You are different now..You have grown..and this gentleman,,is the NEW person. Enjoy...

lbiker

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Does this drive all men nuts? Posted: 7/30/2009 10:00:31 PM
To me.. Words are hot air..comeing and going..just passing by. Could be the truth..could be a lie... Actions are thought out, meant with kindness, love, and with you on his mind and in his heart. Be grateful. Be courteouse..Or he may move on to someone who is.

lbiker

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For a Laugh- What movie would you base your life on as of now? Posted: 7/28/2009 8:49:51 PM
Something about Mary

lbiker

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forumeer to forumeer Posted: 7/26/2009 4:51:43 PM
I spend most of my time in the forums..I have looked at the forumeers profile, to see what part of the world they are from. See what they wrote about themselves. I have laughed till I cried at some..And felt deep heartache for others..And said PFFT on some too. I don't spend much time in any other area,,besides answering the emails I get. Well most of them.. And yes most of you are miles away..So I just make you my Favorites...

lbiker

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Can we go out and get what we want?? Posted: 7/25/2009 11:00:29 PM
Go out and get??? Sounds like men are on sale at Walmart..Best bargains in town. I'm sorry,,I have to disagree with this.. I can go out and meet males.. I can go out and talk to males.. But get one??? I can't control anothers feelings towards me. They either are interested or not. Then what are the interested in,,sex, relationship, friendship??? Are they willing to spend time in finding out more about me, and me them? I just don't get the Mcdonalds drive thru instant opinion relationship. I don't think one will fall in my lap either..Never happened before..now since I said that..I will be worried some plane jumper will be floating off course, and hit me.LOL So no,,I can't go out and get...

lbiker

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expectations Posted: 7/25/2009 9:20:15 PM
Picasso an amazing individual.. Willing to be himself, paint his own way,,not as his teachers instructed..found peace and beauty in his concepts of reality. Even when his life was unraveling in society. When his bare, basic needs were not being fulfilled..his love of his work, remained steady, undying. So if we each were as tenacious as Picasso,,kept to the practice of just our concept of life..continued with the medium we worked best with. Wouldn't we also be just as masterful of our own lives? Beauty is in the Eyes of the Beholder. The anquish of love is forever present.

Lbiker

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The three things that a man wants in a mate... Posted: 7/23/2009 8:53:52 AM
Oh Man All these years I beleived the wrong man... All he wanted was.. Spank me Tease me Make me happy..Babyyyyyyy

Lbiker

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What would you do? Posted: 7/20/2009 9:15:48 PM
My Sympathy on the loss of your son. I have not endured this..nor do I want to. Counseling is the answer..It is not too late.. I would find one, and tell this to them,,and see what happens.. Best to you and your family.

Lbiker

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Are you trusting, optimistic, or both? Posted: 7/19/2009 8:16:33 PM
I find myself very cautiouse,,but hopeful. I haven't found many males that continue with the honesty that they begin with. Not all men..just some of the ones I have met. In today's society..I Feel we all need to be more aware of all situations. Trust is earned..and I will stick with that.

Lbiker

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relationship people/solo people Posted: 7/19/2009 7:59:12 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself.. I have always thought it was what you needed..example/ I have 1 friend that is scared to be alone..so she always has 1 man in a relationship, and another..waiting.. I have another friend, that doesn't want a full time relationship,,so she has one,,then leaves him..takes time off,,then goes out and finds another one.. I have another,,that just does them all, any way she wants..and that is all she wants. Me I want quality,,not quantity..I guess I am too picky,, Yes I love the sex too,,but only in a solid relationship..I don't want to be a pass around pack..booty call..FWB..whatever.. So I guess each to thier own..Enjoy what you can,,and leave the rest.. Gay,,NO F'n way..not for me.,.I want different toys..

Lbiker

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How Long Posted: 7/19/2009 8:55:59 AM
Good topic For me,,its been a long, long, long, time..It didn't take that many years to ":Get OVer Him" Honestly I haven't really found anyone that I want to LTR. I do feel it is really important to be alone at least 1 year. To give yourself time to rediscover who you are, and what you need.

Lbiker

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Regret what you've done, or haven't done Posted: 7/19/2009 8:47:36 AM
For me..looking back,,I would only change the things that caused me pain. If I did change those things. I would not have learned the lesson I needed. I don't and didn't like the pain it caused..But sometimes I am like a mule,,and reality has to get my attention..So it hits me with a 2 x 4. Today I call those hits,,regrets..but they really arent. Just didn't get my way...Wahhhh

Lbiker

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How many Women out here Love SEX? Posted: 7/19/2009 8:37:56 AM
I agree with MsMicki Its a sad situation..Sex is great in a thriving relationship..Just love it,,can't get enough. But the male at this age???? So sad...

Lbiker

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If they call us women Cougars, what do they call the Men? Posted: 7/19/2009 8:20:07 AM
V ery I nsecure A ged G uys R equiring A ttention A lso D esperate D illusional I diots C ockled T wits

Lbiker

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most of you were right! He showed his true colors Posted: 7/19/2009 8:05:53 AM
^^^^^Both of you, IncongnitoB ^ Commonsens^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH OTHERS !!!!!!!

Lbiker

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Ever been excitied and nervous at the same time ? Posted: 7/18/2009 11:33:25 PM
Msg #5 ^^^^^^^ME TOOOO,,,,Oh mY GAWD!!!!!^^^^^^^^^

Lbiker

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The lonelies! Posted: 7/18/2009 11:22:57 PM
Thanks OP I have been divorced about 17 years..I was fine,,raised the kids, they grew up,, Have thier own lives,,and yes 3 grandchildren now, 1 more on the way.. Last year,,was the first year I felt lonely. It blew my mind...why now??? So I decided to date...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL found pof Here we go..... Do you ask the guy,,or does the guy ask you?? Do you call,,or does he??? Does dating mean meeting for 1 hour,,a drink, or a meal, or a conversation,,and then you leave,,with no further contact.. Is that really a guy??? Is it inappropriate to ask him if that adams apple is real???Did you see him in a dress earlier???Is that white line on your ring finger,,there for a reason? Well with your face,,your body posture,,and my medical background,,I would say you are 72,,not 42... No I will not date anyone that is younger than my daughter..she is 26...No I don't meet anyone younger than 10 years...yes I can add and subtract....Yes I acted just like her when I was her age..I had to go through it and so do you.... Lonely???? what is that???? Sometimes the island of Sanity ...should be enjoyed a little longer...

Lbiker

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Underwear - The New Relationship Indicator? Posted: 7/18/2009 10:25:05 PM
Underwear??? Who cares..As long as those jeans are just right.. I hate the saggy butt thing..looks like a dirty diaper. I hate the short shorts..TMI But the just fit look,,makes me go MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Does he???? Does he not????? Lets go find out>>>>

Lbiker

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Strong Willed Women Posted: 7/18/2009 9:50:13 PM
Weak willed,,never had a chance. Alot of times, females, have to learn to be strong willed. They are overlooked, mistreated, and ignored by all types of business employees. To become confident, and speak that way to males, is sometimes threatening. Not to the female,,to the male. As long as the tone is friendly, the smile is apparent., the male will not become so insulted. And other strong willed females will accept this also. But don't be suprised when you see the mousy,,quiet one,,just walk all over you. I have seen that also. She manuevers by suprise, and manipulation. And beleive me,,no matter what type of woman you are..there will always be complaints by someone. So just do the best you can with what you are. Just be yourself.

Lbiker

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IS BEING OPEN FROM THE START WRONG AND WHY? Posted: 7/17/2009 2:12:03 PM
Hello MrDriven.. I read your post, and then I read your profile. You are an extremely attractive male, and extremely driven. Nothing wrong with that,,I just don't think meeting people are like the business you are in. Your education and training,,is for a businees, money, selling, financial gain. Those skills could go against you in meeting people. I'm sure the women you have met,,were very interested in you and your attributes. I can also see where they would "try to be more" so they could keep your interests. Im not saying they are right, Im saying they are trying too hard. Maybe it takes more than 1 hour, or 2 dates to sum that person up. What "Ideal Woman, of Fantasy Lady" are you comparing them too ? A large part of dating is acceptance, and willingness to change. By that Imean,,not to change your personality..but to be willing to change your opinion of that person. Let them evolve without judgement. Each and every date cant be the "one", each and every date is working to find what and whom you need to be the "one".

Lbiker

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What kind of man/woman do you think you attract? Posted: 7/16/2009 9:06:54 PM
I seem to attract men of all ages. The younger are more open and definatly ask me to go out. The older send a few emails..then a few more,,,then they either stop, or finally say,,lets meet. Fortunatly the men are all professionals, not married, have manners, and have been gentlemen. They all agreed I am not for them...So ...here I go again... Lbiker

Lbiker

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True Love: I love you because...I love you despite of...or Posted: 7/16/2009 8:22:03 PM
Renaissance Man1950 msg #13 Yes you love them. You are looking at a situation with mental application, not emotion. Love is not a mental plan. Love is an emotion. It is neutral. Your perceptions on a situation is what gives it a positive or negative value. You love that person until you find out about the above. If you are not aware of the behaviors that you are discussing,,the person is still loved. I spent several years in the description of these behaviors. I felt the love as described by the op the third one. When we married,,I beleived in my vows. The disease is a behavior, there is a difference. So until my x stated that he did not want this (marriage) any more..he chose the behavior, addiction...I was there. I learned alot of Unconditional love..the love without control of another. So for me....Love is an emotion, fullfilling, painful, estatic, tears, strong, binding. And in a way..He is the father of my children,,I love him for that..Just not the romantic, life time love I once had for him. Love is not always a choice..those behaviors,,can be in your children..Then what do you do???divorce your kids???? think about it. Lbiker

Lbiker

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LTR - How much would you change about yourself? Posted: 7/16/2009 1:45:58 PM
I would actually be really happy to be home,,and see him. I would enjoy the comfort of his heart, eyes, hands, lips, and touch every one everyday. I would talk to him and really really listen I would enjoy the special times together. I would enjoy our times apart. I would be a part of a team,,working for the betterment for both of us. I would share the shower, the bed, and all the furniture. If we argued..we might have to apologize more than once..( yea I like making up.>>>) The other stuff...just stuff.... Im sure either of us would be capable of taking care of it..maybe even switch responsibilites every once in awhile. So I might really change into a better person..and so might they...love can do that.

Lbiker

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Do Men Really Want Honesty? Posted: 7/16/2009 7:48:04 AM
Honesty can either offend or defend a person. It is one perception of reality. Usually the person talking. What is the intent that you use behind the HONESTY. I prefer using honesty, with tact, manners, and an openmind. I believe the 1 The Truth Hurts,,if you are spiteful and caddy with it. 2 You Can't Handle the Truth.. yes you can if the person delivering it uses kindness instead of brutality. Yes in a relationship it does take work, timing, and alot of kindness. What I understood at the first of the posting,,was useing honesty on the first few dates.. Yes be honest..just don't tell your whole life story useing only negative situations. Why does this new person in your life need to know all the past? They aren't your future . I just think alot of us have forgotten to take a little time to let the relationship even begin. We want to cram all the info in the first 30 minutes..Whats the Rush??? Honestly we just need to slow down...Like when we were younger..Stop..and smell the roses.... LBiker

Lbiker

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Just For Fun - Top 3 What Not To Do On A 1st Date Posted: 7/15/2009 9:21:11 PM
#1..So why aren't you F###in married??? Can't guys see how you look? #2. Do ya wanna go? Do ya wanna do somethin? What do ya think??? Do ya wanna eat? Do ya wanna talk more???? Do ya wanna ????? Are we able to start a sentence with some other words? Can we have a little more intelligence. #3. Please remember your teeth when you take me out to eat steak. It is very embarassing to sit here and watch you literally attempt to chew each piece for about 5 minutes.

Lbiker

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SO confused- Help Posted: 7/11/2009 11:06:47 PM
What all the others have said is so right. Now you know what it feels like to "settle" That way you won't do that again,,You will get the right one! Be very grateful you are out of this negative arrangement of lies. It was not a relationship. A relationship is built by 2 people working together. This was a deception. Take care.. Lbiker

Lbiker

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I am getting tired of meeting women with low self-esteem!!! Posted: 7/11/2009 9:08:03 PM
I'm confused.. You start off by saying..[so why do girls always have to ruin things with their low self esteem?? ] Then you jump in later,,and say she is still going to see you..when everyone is expression their disagreement with you showing your x pics. Now you explain..you may not want to see her..because of HER LOW SELF ESTEEM? I don't see her on here, whining and asking all of us for their opinion on what to do. Who has the low self esteem???? You.... not her. And who are you to judge her on one statement anyway. WTF? How in the world would you know by 1 conversation if she isn't the perfect lady for you????GEEEZZZ Talk about an assuming a##hole. Why don't you at least give a person a chance. Poor girl Lbiker

Lbiker

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Defiance and Rebellion in a relationship Posted: 7/11/2009 8:54:34 PM
Parents are usually the only ones that say that. Sounds like a control issue to me. What part are you playing in it? Lbiker

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How to gauge whether a guy's interest is purely platonic Posted: 7/11/2009 6:05:09 PM
What are some subtle ways to resolve this puzzle? Talk about your last gynecologist exam and your bowel movements. If he has advice or listens attentively and considerately then he's probably not interested romantically. If he doesn't want to hear about it or thinks it's gross then he's interested. loved it Lbiker

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highlighted text - test thread Posted: 7/11/2009 6:00:57 PM
See I cheat

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highlighted text - test thread Posted: 7/11/2009 5:59:11 PM
See I cheat

Lbiker

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What you can tell by their eye color Posted: 7/9/2009 8:31:07 PM
I have green eyes, with gold centers. I'll take the green definition..no prob. I just think it would be fun to add your horoscope stuff with the eye thing. I think forums like this are fun. We get too involved in what happened earlier by others opinions. It is time we just have fun together. Remember how to play. Thanks OP Lbiker

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Why do we women do this to ourselves? Posted: 7/8/2009 8:22:28 AM
Hi Nate Believe me I do agree with you. I don't feel this way on all men,,just a couple. The problem with the attitude that you are talking about,,gets us into the Biatch categorie..You know the "nose in the air B" or "she thinks she is too good for me." So it is alot like the men feel. No matter which direction we go,,it brings some kind of accusation with it. So being honest about how we feel, to communicate,,will allow us to find that happy medium..Just with our inner self. And that is the only one that really matters..the others are too opininated. We are learning, and we are getting better..How do I know this??? I read the forums about how opiniated we females are and how we are too good for some guys . So hang in there..we are getting ready for you gentlemen!!!!!!! Lbiker

Lbiker

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Why do we women do this to ourselves? Posted: 7/7/2009 8:30:51 PM
HI Shebop I understand this. I don't like it either. For me I will agree with Mr Reality..Something I wanted and couldn't have. Also on top of that..it was a blow to my ego..What??? you don't want ME????? That rejection, that feeling of loss, confusion..leads me to say inside my head. Wait..I wasn't finished with you yet..But they are finished with me. Acceptance of rejection, no connection,,no hope of this being the Right One.,,, Then as we drag our feet, lower our head..and mumble to ourselves..Ok,,,I'll just have to start all over again with someone else.... And we do,,Its just a cycle of reality..some are more painful than others. Lbiker

Lbiker

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How do you stay motivated Posted: 7/4/2009 11:39:14 PM
When I get sick and tired of all of it.. I try something I never thought I could do. I also buy a shirt, or something I think is really cute, just a size to small. Then I hang it by my mirror. It is such a thrill to put it on,,and it fits!!! I only go down 1 size at a time. It has helped me,,hope that is helps you. Congratulations on all your hard work. Keep it up.,. Lbiker

Lbiker

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narrowed dating pools? Posted: 7/4/2009 11:08:49 PM
Hey young snowbird Let me know what you think of the hairy armpits...LOL LOL LOL Lbiker

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Does using this forum help avert poster's problems? Posted: 7/4/2009 10:48:37 PM
I learn something about someone everytime I read the forums. It is fascinating to read all the variouse opinions, and concepts, concerning relationships. The posts are each important and valuable for growth and understanding. For me , they are a great learning tool, and an opportunity to make great friends. I really enjoy them. LBiker

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What would you compromise? Posted: 7/4/2009 10:13:40 PM
Hi golfgirl For me,,if it was true love, I would move in a heartbeat. Sell all this stuff..Its all just stuff. I can see that it is easier to stay selfish, hang on to the stuff, stay on Pof and then have a new thread,,why didn't I take my chance????? I think it is a 50/50 chance. And at my age, why not try again? My kids are grown, my health is good, and I'm not getting any younger. SOOOOOO I would not compromise an opportunity to feel True Love as long as the other person felt this way also. Glad to see you Rock.. Lbiker

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Does anyone have anything good to say about their EX? Posted: 7/4/2009 10:00:51 PM
Yes He is my x..that's a good thing for him,,,and for me.. His wife likes him does that count??? Lbiker

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anyone else find it harder as ya get older Posted: 7/4/2009 9:58:36 PM
Hey Bodypro8 You have a way with words, as well as the way you have with your hands. Very eloquete, strong, masculine, mature, handsome, intelligent, and confident. Thankyou.. Lbiker

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Attitude is Everything? Posted: 7/4/2009 4:57:46 PM
Yes the tattooed surviors of that holocaust..did have attitude..THEY SURVIVED. Attitude is what has gotten alot of us through our troubles, trials and tribulations. If you don't have an attitude, then people will walk all over you. If you don't have an attitude,,then you will give up.!!!! If you don't have an attitude..you are part of the apathy that is destroying much of this world. There are variouse levels of attitude. Some are fun, some are serious,,,and most are required to survive. Me on a TV show???? No thanks..wrong attitude!!!! Lbiker

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