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mani

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Why did some societies advance and other not? Posted: 5/23/2007 8:04:07 AM
Hi to all, just join this great post. Ghehngis Khan even declined to invade Europe because there was neither profit nor sport in it. In fact, Batu Khan did not invade Europe because of a noze bleed! It's a funny story. But I agree with most of what your are saying. And to the original question I answer, space. It has lot to do with competition induced by the lack of space. Plenty of books exists on this subject. Off course other factors comes into play. One of the most recent one : religion and the raise of the west. Please refer to l'ethique protestante du capitalisme. But even then, geography had done much of the work.

Mani

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cheating and sex drive Posted: 12/15/2006 11:50:28 AM
^^I agree^. if you love someone you should just let them be.

Mani

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Red Wings Posted: 10/30/2006 12:19:02 PM
17. I only noticed when I went to the bathroom. Ended up taking a shower. I had noticed she was a bit relunctant when i started going south but she never explicitly said she had her period. So i just kept going. Did not taste that bad. She had a blast!!

Mani

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Would you turn off the game to have sex?? Posted: 10/30/2006 12:13:23 PM
nah...I'm a firm believer in having the cake and eating it. So I would both have sex and watch the game. Off course any women I date would have to like hockey so I guess there is no problem there.

Mani

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Would you accept... Posted: 10/6/2006 12:25:59 PM
The thing is, I’m seeing someone as a friend. She was going out with another girl and cheated on her with me. That was a year ago. Both girls still live together. I’m still not welcome in their apartment because her ex does not want to see me. Hence my question, hence this thread. Do you think it's normal? I think it's unfair.

Mani

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Would you cheat on your woman if... Posted: 10/6/2006 12:14:40 PM
i can never be completly satisfied, but if slepping around is not allowed in the relationship, i would not cheat no matter what. although alchool can make you do regretable things

Mani

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what was the one thing that made you fall out of love with someone Posted: 10/6/2006 11:23:36 AM
I don't think love is a constant. Some days you love, somedays you love less, somedays you love more. Depends on how I feel about a buch of stuff, and it depends on what the other is doing. If they are many sucessive days where you love less, then love tends to fade.

Mani

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Would accept... Posted: 10/6/2006 11:18:43 AM
I tend to agree with "Once it's over it's over as far as I'm concerned. ...I don't particularly care what the other does nor do I expect him to care about my behaviour either." On the living together part...I'm thinking it would not be fair to the ex. If she cheated with someone and is in love. Who would I be to keep them separated?? It would be has much her place as it would be mine. If the roles were reverse, i would not want to be treated that way.

Mani

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Would you accept... Posted: 10/6/2006 10:29:34 AM
seeing (let's say at a party) your ex with her/his new partner if the partner in question was the guy/girl she/he cheated you with? Would you leave? Would you expect your ex not to rub it in your face? or : Lets' say you and your ex still live together, would you tolerate it if she/he was bringing her/his new lover over knowing that the lover in question was the guy/girl she/he cheated you with? Would you ask your ex not to bring him/her over? Would it be fair? What do you think?

Mani

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Obstacles to love and a successful relationship Posted: 9/26/2006 12:26:02 PM
the greatest obstacles to either falling or remaining in love with someone is myself!

Mani

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Cardio and Weigth Training Posted: 9/22/2006 10:50:38 AM
No I have'nt. I only want to loose 5 to 10 more pounds. I've been stock at 190 for 5 months now. And I know it's the diet. When I slack on wine and beer for 10 days, I drop to 183!. It just that I don't want to slack it off...

Mani

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Cardio and Weigth Training Posted: 9/22/2006 5:09:18 AM
Thanks for the advice everyone. I work only the upper body cause I have massive and very muscular legs, almost like a sprinter...It's genetics, all the man in my family have massive legs! I want to do weight to increase my metabolism and burn fat. The reason for this is that all the running I was doing did not seem to pay off anymore. Sure I'm in shape but I was not loosing weight anymore. I think my diet is the problem. To much wine and beer. But hey, I keep training to enjoys those things... So I'll stick to ruinning first, doing weights afterward and i'll stop the weight training when my marathon schedule kicks in in december. I lost 4-5 pounds with that schedule so far. It's just that I feel very week after training even if I eat. That's why I was wondering about the order. Thanks

Mani

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what can i do Posted: 9/20/2006 11:49:54 AM
try anal sex... on him

Mani

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attending support meetings.... Posted: 9/20/2006 6:30:48 AM
Thanks. I thought about what you guys said and talked it over with some friends. I will be volunteering.

Mani

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Cardio and Weigth Training Posted: 9/20/2006 6:01:54 AM
Hi to all, I'm a run about 50k a week but recently decided to add some weigth training. So I brought down my running to 25k. Rigth before lunch, I go and run 5 or 6 k then I enter the gym for a 45 minute workout. Working only my upper body. I do not want to bulk. And I know I bulk easy. So I do 3*20 rep with ligth weigths. The intent is to get thinner and more cut. I have my meal 30 min after the training. I do this 4 times a week. Do you think this is a maximising workout. Should I do weigth before running? Thanks for your advices.

Mani

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attending support meetings.... Posted: 8/24/2006 7:34:25 AM
...I was trying to edit my original post but it seems you can't. I meant pass yourself as in fake being a... I know, it's terrible, but don't you think being in touch with the suffering of others can open up one's horizon? I mean we hear that kind of stuff everyday in the news, and we kind of become unaffected by it. I recently went to a funeral of someone I did not know, It was very interesting to hear how this guy was liked by is sons and daughters, what kind of life he had lived and it got me wondered about all the thing I could really learn by doing something like attending different support meetings. Anyway, just another weird thing...

Mani

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liberal media...Savage attacks......Fair minded out spoken lady Posted: 8/24/2006 7:03:43 AM
Most of the people who read and believe her diatribe are idiots and should get an education. Controversal statements rarely lend themselves to objective analysis.

Mani

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attending support meetings.... Posted: 8/24/2006 6:46:08 AM
just to listen to people's story. Would you do it? For example, would past yourself as a rape victim or AA just to attend the support meetings to listen to people's story? Would participate? Would you socialize? Would it be lying? If some of you have seen Fight Club then you know what I mean.

Mani

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Where to meet available women? Posted: 8/24/2006 6:41:31 AM
I find that going clubbing on 80's nigth is a very good opportunity to meet people in their 30's. Most of all, you often meet people who know exactly what they want and are very upfront about it. The seducing game is not the same as when we were young adults. Chances are, if you want sex, you'll find there easily, if you want to meet someone for potential LTR, you will also find there. Works for me. And I also agree with B-Otch and richiig27: thnik about joining an amateur sports league. Although, this is more if you are seeking LTR.

Mani

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What Would You Do If You Were Drafted? Posted: 8/23/2006 1:08:28 PM
become a conscientious objector and flee the country.

Mani

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Do you think you're better? Posted: 8/23/2006 1:03:23 PM
deagl: try being the best F**K east of toronto, north of New York!!! That's pressure...

Mani

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Guys who won't give home # or address after a month of exclusive dating Posted: 8/23/2006 12:05:48 PM
He has another relationship going (other than with his "son"). He's playing you. Either confront him or walk away.

Mani

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first love Posted: 8/23/2006 8:07:55 AM
sorry man. The same thing happen to me when I was 17. She pushed me away saying she still loved me. What a bi_tch! I moved from Montreal to Vancouver to forget about her. It worked. Time and distance usually heal a broken hearth.

Mani

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What book are you reading right now? Posted: 8/23/2006 7:57:08 AM
Women, Charles Bukowski. Since then, I dream I'm drinking myself drunk all the time.

Mani

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how long should a girl wait on sex? Posted: 8/22/2006 6:57:37 AM
I agree with you, but this has nothing to do with respect. re-end thread. :)

Mani

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Tuesday girl vs Friday girl Posted: 8/22/2006 6:55:51 AM
actuallym it's quite simple. When on a non exclusive dating roll, someone will always end up a week-end girls or weeknight girls simply because you can't take them out at the same time. Unless you are really good...After a while, routine sets in, and we all kind feel comfortable expecting that today I'll be seeing her or him while tomorow, i'm really looking forward to seeing somebody esle. So i don't think it's question of rank.

Mani

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how long should a girl wait on sex? Posted: 8/22/2006 6:48:09 AM
time as little to do with respect. You don't earn respect with time. And witholding sex in the hope of earning respect won't work. Sex is fun. You have it when you want to have it with someone who wants to have it with you. Simple.

Mani

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Phobias anyone? Posted: 8/22/2006 6:02:31 AM
ok, so here it is for all to know, I'm agoraphobic in crowded areas; stores, streets, highways (like when in a traffic jam). I loose focus, i can think only of one thing, finding a way out before someone does....watch out.

Mani

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Do people have less sex in the hot months? Posted: 8/21/2006 11:42:09 AM
Without air con, and when temperature is exceeding 35 with a 48 humidex I have less sex. Thankfully, that does not happen often in Canada (say maybe 5-8 days a year for the Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa region) It's not really a question of energy, I just think I'm disgusting.... So no sex when too hot. Except when vacationing somewhere hot. Then it's kind of the whole point...

Mani

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What book are you reading right now? Posted: 8/17/2006 12:26:03 PM
Lunar Park -Easton Ellis

Mani

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Fellow ladies, would this gross you out, or is it just me? Posted: 8/16/2006 1:08:56 PM
^^^The only thing weird about that, if that he told you, unless of course you asked. Have to agree with that. Otherwise, you are prude darling!!

Mani

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advice needed badly Posted: 8/3/2006 11:30:38 AM
I think one should be responsible for their actions, bad moves or good ones. Stop laying blame: you accepted to move, you got the boot, move out.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 12:10:14 PM
^^I suggest you lay off the personal attacks and stick to what you know. I don't mind reading opinions and debating but nothing personal.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 11:54:14 AM
Hey one, I,m not accusing of passing judgment on me, i just said i tougth some people were harsh on the girl.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 11:44:37 AM
:) She's no forum fan. And works in an open office (cubicle)

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 11:28:21 AM
molonel: I read a lot of your posts and I think you are a great poster on PoF. But if you read my profile, you will understand that my current girl is perfectly accessible to anybody who whishes to seduce her. She is on this site.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 11:22:40 AM
Indeed it had little to do with to OP's question. I was more referring to your comment about me comparing relationships to economics. The reference was to underline that it has been done. And you are right, it has nothing to do with rigth or wrong. The wrongs we attached to our actions, the values and morals that limits them, are simply constraint (just like the budgetary constraint in optimization). Some of us have different ones. I think that has long has our actions do not infringe on the liberty of others, we can pretty much do what we want to be happy. So in my book, if one falls in love with somebody that's taken, he has a rith to take a shot at it. I agree that I have pushed Wilde's saying to the extreme. Maybe I was just provoking here. To reply to ~iice~'s comment, i don't beleive we can take anything we want, but, like I said, as long as we do not infringe on the liberty of the others, everything is up for grabs. Especially love.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 9:45:11 AM
He also said A man can be happy with any woman as long as he does not love her. So away with M. Wilde... But relationships are at the heart of economics. We often view Edconomics as the study of the allocation of ressource through prices. But relationships are alos a mecanism through wich ressource are allocated. What is a relationship: A relationship is an interaction featuring (1) agents who are tied together with identified partners over the course of a number of periods, (2) incentives that potentially spill across periods, and (3) future outcomes that are tailored to current actions (so as to create current incentives) not by contracts, but by the appropriate provision of future incentives. Anyhow, this is boring stuff, I suggest reading Gary Becker (Economics of Marriage) and then we may want to start a new post on the subject and debate.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 8:58:40 AM
sorry again double post...*?%%$ machine!!

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 8:57:51 AM
I seriously doubt that human nature has changed since King George. I don't get the fantasy comment. People do act this way all the time. Everybody wants to maximise their well being. And everything you take and consume is somebody else's lost. Hence what we call prices!!! Some goes for relatioships, except the price paid is often enough a broken heart.

Mani

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Which city in Canada or the US deserves a Hockey Franchise Posted: 7/27/2006 8:50:11 AM
Bring back the Nordiques. Imagine the rivalry Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec!!

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 8:42:42 AM
the rigth or wrong statement referred to things related to morals, beleifs and values. Within a certain framework, 2+2 will always=4 Rigth!!

Mani

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How long before you would cheat?? Posted: 7/27/2006 8:16:50 AM
I would think that in a steady relationship, this kind of issues should be dealt with. The two should come to an agreemnt as to when it would be acceptable to part and get on with their lifes. I think 2 years would be acceptable. If nothing was decided, well.. tough luck. I think their is more to love than just a body, it takes interaction, an environment, and when the environment is gone, love can fade and it's then time to move on. I would not say it's cheating. sorry double post..

Mani

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How long before you would cheat?? Posted: 7/27/2006 8:16:25 AM
I would think that in a steady relationship, this kind of issues should be dealt with. The two should come to an agreemnt as to when it would be acceptable to part and get on with their lifes. I think 2 years would be acceptable. If nothing was decided, well.. tough luck. I think their is more to love than just a body, it takes interaction, an environment, and when the environment is gone, love can fade and it's then time to move on. I would not say it's cheating.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 8:04:08 AM
Onegreatm8:"this gal has the right to unseat the current woman so she can be numero uno? did i summerize that correctly?" I would say she has a rigth to be happy, and sometimes one's happiness comes at the expense of someone else's. In this context, you summerized it correctly.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 7:29:13 AM
onegreatm*:"its wrong because its wrong." Sorry, I don't buy it. I don't beleive things are all wrong or all rigth. There is nothing intrinsically wrong..I guess our beleif systems are just different. And there is no contradiction, the dynamic I underlined is all about competition. In this story, people are going to get hurt for sure: either the "steady girlfriend" when she finds out, either the on the side girfriend, if the man decides to stay with the steady gf. I'm saying, that the on the side girlfriend has the rigth to want to be the steady girlfriend if that is what she wants. If so, then she should figth for the man she wants.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 5:43:34 AM
I would not be ok with it. I would be hurt by her behavior, especially if it's behind my back. but I would have to deal with it. If I found out, and decided that I still loved my girlfriend, I would not let her go without a fight. If she cheated on me, they must be a reason. Something I'm doing wrong, I would try and fix my behavior, to keep the one I love. If she on the other hand decides that you could make her more happy, then so be it. Take her, it's her life. It's part of the game. And it's very possible that more then one person be in love with the same person. Like I said, I would not be ok with it, but I would deal with. It's just life. People change their minds, hearts get broken, egos get bruised, but we all get over it and hopefully, we hand up happy with a relationship that is appropriate for our lifestyle.

Mani

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I am dating a man who has a girlfriend HELP!!! Posted: 7/27/2006 4:54:25 AM
I think a lot of you are being to harsh on her. Some of you are just mean. It's pretty easy to say "get out, what were you thinking, you have no brain..." and the like. Sometimes matter of the heart can blind us. Sometimes, love can make you do very weird things. She says she wants to be with him. That's that. Then she should try her best to take him away from his current girlfriend. Anyway, I think you guys judge far too quickly. honnor has nothing to do with it. Bien au contraire, I would think it's weak too give up what one wants just because a couple of fishes are thinking the water smells bad. Relationships are like anything else, you set up goals and try to acheive them. She wants him. For now, that's that.

Mani

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pick-up stories Posted: 7/26/2006 12:10:08 PM
to op: happens to guys all the time. That's the bar scene. Get over it, go back in there and fight. I was caught chasing two fishes in the same club. Very ambarassing. Both girls decided to play me and dump me.

Mani

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Movies that never got the respect they really deserved Posted: 7/26/2006 10:58:35 AM
^^^I don't get the comment on Kusturica's Underground. I tried sending you an email but it's not possible becasuse of your settings. I think it's a very good movie and a very strong message against war. Granted, some of the historical facts were a bit twisted, but I think it was all with the good intent of caricature. Please, I would like to know what is it that you will not forgive. Maybe I just don't get it cause i'm not from the the region, and i'm thinking maybe it's a chance to learn something, if you want to chat that is. Back on topic: I think Equilibrium was a very good movie that should have gotten more respect. American Psycho was also bashed by the critic, but I think it was good. It reconciled me with Phil Collins' music. I remember the Boys next door from when I was young. Very good. How about Chasing Amy, love the acting. Bound (I think this one may be consider a cult movie) And Bottle Rocket.

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