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 Author Thread: why does a man do that
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
why does a man do that
Posted: 3/23/2008 9:45:12 AM
I`m sorry for your pain.

Everyone on here seems to think that its only men who do this.I`ve had it happen three times.Once I caught my" fiancee`" two days after proposing with her "ex".

I agree this is wrong behavior for anyone out there and there is no one way to get over the pain,sitting idle does make it worse,all you seem to do is think about your situation.

Good luck its a long hard road.,but not an impossible one to conquer.

Remember .....HIS LOST
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 12/3/2007 8:04:36 PM
Heres the latest;

According to cnn tonight there are no laws at this current time in the state of Mo. that can be pressed against Lori Drew and her coerts in this case.This was the press release from the states attorneys office.

So I guess if anything this will go ti civil court...............Oh well

Just leaves one to wonder if any laws will be made for somthing like this and how would it be fair to charge them afterwards


Weezygirl you made a good point that if Mrs.Drew knew Megan suffered from depression,How could she do this.But thats a big if,and would it have made a difference.

I don`t think anyone was saying that Megan`s parents were to blame. They were just trying to look at every angle in this case.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 12/2/2007 10:30:53 PM
You know I agree fully with you on everything this time.

I didn`t actually read anything in the police reports about the foosball table(except on here),But did read about the windows being shot out with paint ball guns and a brick being thrown through a window. Oh what peotic justice there is
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 12/2/2007 6:56:02 PM
Hey
I found a dictionary(ha,ha)

Like I said.If they choose to prosecute her,I hope she gets a fair trial and is not a career booster or an example just to justify the blood lust for her actions.

I have a great disdain for our whole political system.From thr local police officer to the presidential position.Our forefathers would role in their graves if they saw what became of the original idea of "a free nation"

I think her attorneys should at least ask for a change of venue.To my knowledge she hasn`t made any admittance in public.Just in the interviews conducted by the police.She has supposedly tried to contact the Meier family but they refuse to acknowledge her.I don`t know if a media conference would garner any support,but it`s worth a try.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 12/2/2007 4:50:19 PM
Well lets see,I never said anyone couldn`t believe or have an opion of there own.It did seem to be a heated (maybe highly emotional)conversation that we all were having on here.Yes I voiced my opinion just like you and every body else on here has done.Yes my friend there are legal precedents here.There are laws that neither of us know about and if we all take the time to learn about the laws that we don`t know about(remember the assualt laws here in Va that you appeared to know nothing of?)we might be better advised in the opinions that we put on here.

The whole point of this forum was for people to voice their own opinions of this case,In which we see the masses seem to sgree upon the same thing.If you believe to have a a non-feeling invoked opinion thats your right as it is mine to have an emotional one.At no point did I see anything about not being able to voice an emotional opinion on here.As I see it most people on here were emotional about this.

It also seems that we were right that there should be somthing that this woman can be held for.Since the local police and F.B.I. did not even consult the state prosecuters office about the event.Now that they are annoucing this week what if any charges will be filed.Does this seem like they are trying to c.y.a. ?It does to me ,after all of the media attention that this has garnerd.I don`t know ?
Maybe thats just me being emotional too.

Just check out Lori Drews police reports on this case.There`s a whole lot of admittances on here.Yes she still insist that she was not being malicious and it was for finding out information,but she does admit that she was at fault for Megans death



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 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 52 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/30/2007 4:35:24 PM
After researching this on google I came upon a site today called blogwired.com
After much public attention the prosecuters office will announce next week wether it will press criminal charges or not.

It seem that the local police and F.B.I. decided umongst theirselves that there was no charges to be followed without seeking the states prosicuters office view on things and in the maylay this whole case was over looked.

Sounds like an excuse to me.Anyway,there may be justice for Megan anyway.Lets just hope that this woman and her family who was all involved(along with a hired employee to help make up and moniter this factitious person)get a fair trial.

As for Dr.Death. His assisted suicides were ment to ease the suffering that terminal people experiance.His actions was supposed to be humane and actually an act of kindness.This in no way compairs to this woman or anyone else abusing a person to the point of suicide!

This woman has admitted that she was at fault for this little girls death even though she had tried suicide before.She said that she felt less quilty after finding this fact out but the coincidence was awful because Megan killed herself 20 minutes after she e-mailed her and told her that"the world would be a better place without her" and that she is expecting charges the least in a civil court to be pressed on her and all involved.


Since this was such a heated discussion on here everybody should google this.Theres tons of information from the actual police reports and pictures of Megan,to the reports of the retribution that the community has inflicted on the family.

So lets just hope that there will be justice to all who is involved in this case.By the way there has been a law brought up Called Megans law that is against "internet bullying
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 8:31:01 PM
I think it would be interesting to find out the whole story(most updated info) instead of discussing the half truths we already know.

It would seem to be that every state has a statue like this.I would hope Mo would too.If they do then I would have to guess that the sexual content was proven to be false.

But yes this story is getting sicker and sicker, theres alot more here than meets the eye.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 7:34:38 PM
I wasn`t too sure about that either.The moron didn`t specify,but do we have the right to call him a moron?All he did was express his love for his children.

At least everyone on here agrees that the woman was in the wrong and as long as the masses keep thinking this way maybe society will do somthing about people like that.

According to rollargrrl ,there was sexual overtones in the converstion.Then why and the hell didn`t the authorities do somthing about that.Even though they were false(said under a fake pretense) it still was misconduct towards a child.Besides isn`t that what molesters do?!?!?!

I agree entirely that all laws should be used with common sense,but unfortuatly more often then not the laws are used for monitary gains by the more privelidged (wether its our municipilities, corporations or individuals)of our society then the underpriviedged, and the innocent suffer for it.

We`ll never know if she was directly responsible (but I bet she didn`t help)and it could probably be argued that because she said "the world would be a better place without you"she was at fault .Being that this child had a mental illness and was succeptable to sugestion(?)could possibly build a good case against her.All to often we see molesters and sociopaths get off on a stupid technicality.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 5:06:58 PM
I haven`t one time said that the other family wasn`t at fault.I do think these people and from what I read it wasn`t just family are guilty.We do need to know the whole story.Is it not the terrorist fault for bombing the embassy .Or do we charge the companey that made the materials for the explosive.

This little girl had problems.So why didn`t her parents keep an extra eye on her knowing she was upset?I`m in no way saying their to blame.Without these other people,we can only speculate that the girl would not have killed herself,but cercumstances point to this being the last straw the girl could handle.So she took the only way out she could think of at the time

What would killing the other mother do?She`d be dead so what did she learn.I don`t know if I`m a liberal or not I don`t give a damn about politics.I believe in letting the time fit the crime.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 4:41:21 PM
My friend you do not want to live in three of the states that I have lived in then.Maryland,Virginia and Texas.All three of these states recognize name calling any type not just racial slurs or the like an verbal assualt.Just like spitting on someone can be assualt with a deadly weapon(honestly ,been threatend with the verbal assualt charges myself{called someone a stupid ****},and asked if I want to press the other charges on another party).It`s the same as telling someone your going to kick their ass is a terroristic threat(go figure).Most of the time charges will not be pressed because the courts view them as a waste of time.The laws look at an act as how it`s percieved (just like sexual harrisment).If I tell someone I`m going to kill them,I might mean kill like saying that one team killed the other when the other person takes it for the litteral meaning.No matter what the intent on my behalf was ,I still threatened their life.
Do you really believe that this womans intent was anything else but malicious?Yes we do live in the land where a person is considered innocent until prooven quilty.You are correct I am making assumption on this womans actions.Yes we are all human but that does not mean that we are not responsible for our words and actions.I don`t recall anyone saying anything about murder.There are other ways to be responsible for the lost of human life.Thats why the law call`s it involuntary.I have already stated that we have no ways of knowing what the conversations consisted of .What I`m getting at is that this woman acted wrongful and decietful with this little girl.If the girl had not killed herself how long would it have been carried out?Someone else said that they have no doubt that these people involved got some sick satisfaction from doing this.Thats human nature to get joy out of "getting over on someone".We all agree that this woman was wrong,and I don`t recall anyone saying this girl was innocent of anything.Truth be known she probably started the whole thing.

We will never know who called who what and most likely will never know the whole truth.All that we do know is that more than one person frauded this little girl and she is know dead.There are vulgarity(calling a minor a slut is vulger) laws in this country and they are even tougher when inflicted on a child.These people should be charged with somesort of criminal neglect of a child(I`m not a lawyer so I don`t know all of the laws)wether it merits jail time or a fine or just the cost of a good defense,they should not get away with this.Who knows maybe her parents should be charged too.

All I`m saying is if what this little girl said to her daughter was so bad as to merit her "trying to get proof"(what was she going to do with the proof when she got it?)of her bad mouthing her daughter then why didn`t she go to the authorities instead of acting on her own?That act alone could`ve triggered the cops that there wasa problem and the girl was close to the edge.this woman was neglegent and should be charged for the possibility of endangering a child(maybe not in the violent way but the mental)

there a million speculations that we all could make but only one person knows what really happened and she`s not talking
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 3:43:12 PM
Situations do need to be taken in consideration,but no parent has the right to punish(?) a child in the way that this parent did.I could see them being on a family trip and this child was with them and "snuck out' to a bar.By all means punish her and tell her parents asap.But making a false account that can be veiwed by other(remember the woman down the street that let the parents know about the deciet) is no way in any form punsihment.It`s turtore!
Discipline and abuse is different.I`m sure if your 14 yr old did that with your car,that the least thing you would do is call him a moron,but at the same time if you beat him to the point of putting him in the hospital then is that abuse or punishment.Remember children learn from the examples we give them.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 3:23:51 PM
The woman and her two other cronies had planned ,sceamed and acted to
hurt this little girl by leading her to believe that this boy was interested in her.This is called a conspiracy.The whole intent was to cause harm in the way of embarassment and indefimation of this little girl.Calling someone elses child a slut is not the same as you calling your son a moron for somthing that could`ve cost his or some innocent bystander life.You had every right to discipline your boy as the dead girls parents had taken from them.Yes I agree that if the parents had been monitoring her on line time why did they not catch the suspicious letters from"Josh".
Does anyone remember what 13 was like?Is it not hard enough to be going through puberty and all of the crazy feelings and confusions,and peer pressure,let alone fighting a desease such as depression?It was already stated that the girl was joyful and gleaming so her medication was obviously working.No we do not know the whole story of any of the conversations from the one that prompted the mother to make the fake profile up to the lecture her parents gave her.What we do know is that due to an adult(s) handling a situation in an immature,decieving way a little girl wound up dead.Like I said before we will never know why she killed herself or what the true cause was.Calling a person a name is considered assualt and a person can be arrested on it.Yes we do have the freedom of speech and should be able to say what we want,but with freedom we also have responsibilities of our own actions and words.
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 344 (view)
 
Why do guys always do this to me? Does anyone else have this problem?...
Posted: 11/28/2007 11:05:28 AM
This guy sounds really screwed up.Making you sleep in a car?!?!?That shows he thought alot of you.Were did his dog sleep?
Your only 21 girl get over it.Iknow it hurts I`ve been there too and it still hurts.Your just begining life and theres going to be a whole lot of let downs before you finally get it right.One day you`ll find a man that appreciates a good woman and he`ll treat you great.Just watch and pay attention to the ones you meet and remember that "I LOVE YOU "is used as a ploy to get you in bed by alot of people.Maybe you smothered him and didn`t know it,maybe not.Ask yourself.Do you deseve to be treated like he`s treating you?Having you sleep in a car tell you that he doesn`t care.
Think of it this way..........His lost.......
Good luck and go pamper yourself
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/28/2007 10:30:17 AM
Your focusing on that fact that the little girl killed herself.The whole idea is that the parents should have gone to the girls parents and let them take care of their own child instead of them acting like children themselves.We dont know why the girl killed herself.Like someone said"would she have killed herself two days after a real boyfriend dropped her".We`ll never know and maybe if the quilty parent had told her parents she may still have killed herself.VERBAL ABUSE NO MATTER TO WHAT DEGREE IS STILL ABUSE!!!!!!!No I would not call your son a little shit in the first place.I`d call you and let you do it.As adults we have the responsibility to teach the childen of our society whats right and wrong and by this parent`s immature actions what did she teach her children?What your attorney said is true,but we can make them responsible for their own actions.
Where I grew up we settled things between us kids usually in a fist fight,but we still got in trouble with our parents when we came home with bloody noses and black eyes,or even worse when someone`s parent called and said we`d been fighting.The whole point is that someone`s parent called and let OUR parents discipline us they did not do it theirselves.
We have a responsibility to protect children from harm,wether its from running into traffic,sexual predaters,or even abuse at home.Cussing,teasing and calling names is not acceptable,no matter to what degree .These parents are quilty of abusing this child
Have you ever been diagnosed with depression?Have you ever been around someone with depression?When a person suffers from this theres alot more going on with this person than whats on the surface.Maybe this was the catalyst that set her off.I`m sure it was not the parents meaning to kill this child,but it`s not the drunkdriver`s that killed a family of five intention ether.He`s still quilty though
 alone2long980
Joined: 8/18/2005
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Megan Meier's suicide
Posted: 11/27/2007 9:18:44 PM
OK PEOPLE LETS LOOK AT THE WHAT WERE MISSING HERE! Yes it`s wrong for an underage person to be on any web site without there parents conscent.Every parent should put the family computer in a non-private area so they can moniter what the children are looking at.Yes I know it`s immpossible for parents to moniter their children 24/7.But honestly,what kind of adult would go through childish means like that to hurt a kid?Yes this parent should be charged with crimenal intent to endanger a child.How many of you still carry scars from childhood name calling and teasing?What happened to the good ole day`s of parents knowing their childrens friends and families,and comunicating when Johnny hurts Sally?Would it have been fine for this parent to track this little girl down and beat her up?So when is verbal abuse wether published like this or verbal fine to do to a child?Let alone one thats not yours?
 
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