LMFAO Ok strange man your a funny guy I actually have tried ballroom dancing and its ok but it def isn't my thing I like to surf LOL .

It's great you are sober but you are a smoker and that will turn off more people. You say you like to hang out in bars to shoot pool or sing silly songs but you expect someone you date to go to those bars with you and not have one drink? I think you need to get control of your own life and not put YOUR restrictions on other people. Like I said, you smoking is going to be a big turn off to a lot of people. Suppose you aren't ready to quit smoking? You want someone that doesn't want a smoker to change because you can't control your urges for cigs? Not everyone that drinks socially needs to attend AA meetings. Some of us can control our intake and drink responsibly and not be fall down drunk by the end of the night. Not everything has to be an extreme of all or nothing.

People are saying that she is selfish for accepting the drink, but why does the guy have to even offer it? Is he incapable of having a conversation unless she is obligated to converse by accepting his unsolicited drink?

If she's not interested, that's not going to change just because he bought her a drink, and now he's out money and got his hopes up.

What is the difference between striking up a conversation, and having the same conversation as a string attached to the drink? If a guy wants to talk to a woman, man up and talk to her.

If they're going to think that a woman owes them something for said drink (and what is the ante? A few minutes' conversation? The entire evening? Sex? It could go on, some guys actually think they own you and are going home with you after buying you one drink, and you can't get rid of them), and get pissy because they didn't get the expected ROI, then don't buy them one.

It's perfectly reasonable to strike up a conversation with someone without attaching strings or thinking they owe you something. I'd rather someone talked to me because they actually wanted to, not out of pity or obligation because I bought them a drink.

What kind of EXTRA gratitude exactly?? They are strangers to each other! I mean "Thanks/thank you" isn't good enough?? I see the POINT of your argument but honestly, that example is weak at best....

A few months ago I was at Panera by myself. I ordered, went to pay and noticed I had left my credit card at home. There were ppl in line behind me and I was mortified! A nice man in a suit stepped up and offered to pay for my lunch...I was surprised and very grateful, thanking him sincerely . He didn't stop to chat me up or ask if I'd sit with him, he just smiled, said "you're welcome" and moved on. The kindness of strangers indeed....

No kidding.

I wouldn't have accepted the drink myself, I don't like the feel of leading people on. That's exactly why I have never done the 'free dinner' style date that many of my female friends encouraged me to do over the years. But this woman accepted his offer of a drink, said thank you and shortly after went back to the table where her friends were. So what? I honestly don't see how that makes her manipulative, classless, stupid, a b!tch or any of the other ludicrous adjectives heaped upon her. I may not have done what she did, but I'll defend her right to do so without this ridiculous and extreme prejudice for such an innocuous thing.

Any thoughts on what I should do, keep my head up and keep dating or take a break????

If my beliefs appear delusional to someone, why would they want to date me? It's not like I hide who I am and what I think/believe in that respect.

And seriously, why would a lack of agreement automatically equate to mockery? Rather telling logic there...

I've dated atheists before, and I always ended up feeling mocked. It didn't lend itself to a feeling of warmth and closeness, nor acceptance. After this I swore I would never date another atheist, but that was needlessly closed minded and an atheist friend of mine challenged my thoughts in that regard. Not all atheists are created equal after all.

But I admit to being more interested in men who are open to the spiritual as opposed to being all blocked off. It seems to have side effects in other areas as well. I can see it working for those who do not consider this sphere all that important, but for those who spend a lot of time devoted to spiritual pursuits or debating the ultimate superiority of their position.. well, problems would likely loom on the horizon.

It is a wonder that the either strong atheists or strong religious can ever have a serous long term relationship at all...

For strong religious a relationship is a meeting under God and who one can live up to that expectation
For strong atheists there is no such thing as a permanent love beyond self. if no one cares whats the point anyway.

Also there's no verbal diarrhea going on when I converse, I am an artist and very sensitive to people's body language, I can tell when someone is bored, getting squirmy, disinterested or just not into it. On the other hand, it is also very evident when they ARE interested! I am extremely careful not to ramble on, overdo anything, and I quickly and politely end things and move on with zero "where are you?" phone calls or any of those annoying strings men hate.

If a man wants me gone, it is done!

This is a social interaction, and I have an obligation to be polite, listen to and try to get on his energy level, not talk about myself thru the entire date and allow him room to talk, interact, or want to leave.

1) Did I just get majorly played??????
2) Does he still get notifications even if he deleted himself?
3) Any suggestions on what to do next?

Ohhh the irony of the first sentence of your profile
It seems you do have the concept down pat,
you just can't seem to believe it.

That's just silly.Why would you date someone to spare thier feelings of rejection if you weren't attracted or compatible with them?

no, what I said was that thre was: ``On the flip side, if a woman doesn't appeal to me as a dating prospect, it's not because there's anything wrong with her, per se.''

The latin phrase, ``per se'' means, ``in itself.'' So a woman might not appeal to me, even though there's nothing inherently wrong with her,

Don't misconstrue what I post and you won't find anything strange about what I said, unless the only thing you value in a woman is sex.

That, in part, I would venture to guess,is due to your own insecurities and self doubt.

Let's say you contact someone.
They see you in that Kilt and think....Umm..I don't think so.
For whatever reason they are not attracted to men in skirts.
Or men with Beards.Or men that are tall.....whatever it is...it's thier right to not be interested for whatever reason
Just like it's your right to have your own preferences.Doesn't mean they don't like you personally,they don't even know you.
Should you take thier preference personally?

Would you happily allow someone into your life to save them from feeling rejected even if you didn't find them attractive or compatible with you in one way or another? NO!

Why should I take their disinterest personally? I don't even know them. I don't expect to appeal to everyone, so I'm not devastated by expressing interest in any particular woman who doesn't find me appealing for some reason. On the flip side, if a woman doesn't appeal to me as a dating prospect, it's not because there's anything wrong with her, per se.

Does constant rejection help or hurt ones self esteem ?

Why should dating be any different than anything else? Not getting a reply might be a disappointment, but there's no reason to take it personally.

Met a guy on here... He seems pretty nice, but he has never been in love. This kind of struck me as odd. Do you think it's weird that a 33 year old man has never been in love? Do you think that it's a sign of this person not being capable of having these feelings. He has had relationships before, but he says he was never in love with any of them. How is that? After, hearing this, I have become skeptical about him. I'm wondering if he is even capable of becoming emotionally connected to someone. What are your thoughts?

So does anyone have any tips for overcoming these type of feelings?

it should not take rocket science to figure that out.

no man would send a woman away becuase they are "tired" if they were into them.

I have been told by the guys on here n one I know that man like to chase n they always want what they can have so u tell me

What would you say to the mother/father of your child/ren if he/she proposed that you have another child together even though you were not currently together?

What do you think the possible reasons for this would be?

Would you feel insulted?

So youre saying it makes more sense to drive 3 hours so see if theres "chemistry" rather than speak on the phone to see if we can even hold a conversation.

I only went on a couple of dates with both of these guys on seperate occasions of course but can't figure out how these dates went well but then all of a sudden, both men were more and more not answering my texts. I totally believe if someone is busy they can take 5 seconds out of their life to text you back and let you know that. I also believe there is a chance a text was never received. It is too coincidental that both men ignored my texts on more than one occasion. I think that is way rude and it is a deal breaker for me. I feel if I am not good enough for courtesy or consideration than it is clear that you are proving to me that I am not worth it to you. I am not the kind of woman to continue to text and text and text over and over again just to get it response because that is riduculous. I am just and curious to know if this ignoring text messages is the new cowardly way to reject someone?

Nobody's obliged to kiss your ass.

Anyways, today he talked about making plans and I said we should have a phone conversation and then he said we should just go straight to meeting. So I asked him how we would hold a converstion in person if we couldnt have one over the phone? He said I should try something different and thats why its great to "change"

This thread is a good example of how atheists get in tehse little packs and try to mock and harass non-atheists. Meanwhile find me some threads where multiple Christians are in there bashign people. :)

i have never felt comfortable around guys,

Please dont not lump christianity which is a religion based on a god who loves and sacrificed for us in with muslims which is a hateful violent angery religion that distroys its members. Muslum and christian are about as far apart as chirtianity and wiccan/satanism

I really dont attack anyones religion just state the facts of what they believe.

For Men:
M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile?
M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles?
M-3 What criteria do you use in determining whether you want to meet a woman in person?
M-4 What criteria do you use in determining whether a woman is a good woman after meeting her in person?

.is there a standard of housekeeping below which someone could slip that would be a deal breaker for you?

I believe that it speaks volumes about the person, their personality and style, their maturity, and their cleanliness, when their home is neat and organized, cleaned and put together well. Even if just a room that is theirs, it will tell me much with how they live overall. My home is my castle and it is all mine to enjoy and let others enter as I feel moved to, and no matter what, it is clean enough, well maintained enough, and organized enough that most will give compliments about how a man can actually decorate, clean and maintain a place as well, if not better then most women....;)

I don't understand your need for a "narrower" or "stricter" definition of atheism/atheist. It means what it means, a lack of belief in a deity or deities.

Disbelief, pure and simple. If there is a name for someone who can say with utter certainty that no God exists (and of course no one can, this would make them very similar to those who believe - believing in something which cannot be proven nor dis-proven.) I don't know what it is, but it isn't atheist under it's most basic definition.

Ahem...I respectfully disagree, Atheism means non-belief. While someone who makes the statement "There is
no God" most certainly may call themselves an Atheist, this does not mean that is the definition of atheism. It is simply how they identify themselves.

This article explains the differences between atheism and agnosticism very well. I will post the link at the bottom:

If you can't write something that makes any of those things self-evident then you're a zero-dimensional person with none of those attributes.

You're confused. Instruction manuals are for people who lack the imagination to think for themselves. It's like an ASME manual for sex.