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sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/23/2009 8:42:14 PM
thanks nexthyme, lots of good points to consider. i think i will let it be for a while. however things happen i plan to be friends with his son. superdad, i've communicated up the wazooooooo.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/23/2009 10:55:19 AM
thanks its nice to hear the parents point of view. write time, i see some parallels in your thinking and his, he said he dated the same way before he moved away. and i wonder if such strict attitudes about dating is really in his childs best interest. my SO's son and i adore each other, he sticks to me like glue. he has a picture of me on his wall in his room, the rest of the pictures are of animals. his father is on the verge of losing me by making me feel too left out again as he did in the summer. i am beginning to think that a guy with grown or no kids is going to be much less of a headache and is this really worth it.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/22/2009 7:57:35 PM
mandanj, excellent insight, hadn't thought of that either. thats exactly what he does with his son - 100% full attention on him.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/22/2009 7:53:49 PM
thanks shaylyn, my gut is telling me that he is sincere and that this is most likely coming from the guilt that he won't admit for leaving his son for 2 years except for holidays. i didn't even think of that.......he might pull the same thing again and god only knows when we would have alone time. i am sooooo disappointed that i don't even know if i have the patience to do the counseling. he came over last night to tell me he loved me deeply. crazy making huh? thank you again for your insight.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/22/2009 7:35:19 PM
he says he needs a significant time frame to reestablish their bond, he will have him 50% of the time. says if i am there the bond will not form. all he will say is that if i go to a therapist with him he will shorten the time but not less than 2 month but prefers to have 3. this summer his son came to visit for 6 weeks and dad refused to take any alone time with me during the entire 6 weeks. it was crazy cuz his son wanted all 3 of us to stay at my house the whole time. i had to tell dad that they couldn't move in for the summer if he wouldn't create alone time for us. so i took care of him while dad worked and we all went out once or twice a week. that was all i could handle if he wouldn't schedule one short alone date a week. he was very unrealistic and inflexible about it. after his son went back i had the most wonderful boyfriend back again. seems like he has a problem loving us both at the same time. but this is just feeling like too much for me to handle. i thought that problem of his was over.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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help...need advice....about living with dad and his small child Posted: 11/22/2009 7:16:43 PM
ok positive and constructive advice only please.......i've been seeing someone for a year and he has a young child that lives thousands of miles away(they have been very far away for 2 years). during this year i have been able to convince him that since his ex-wife has no interest to move here it is in everyones best interest that he moves back and lives close to his son, that flying back and forth on hollidays is not enough. 1 month ago i told him i would move back with him. so now he has made the decision to move back and talks to me constantly about how "we" are going together. literally talks to me everyday about "our" move and all his ideas. so here is the problem: he just divulged his stratedgy......he goes first, gets set up, buys a house, has his son settle in with him first and then sends for me. says this will last no more than 2 or 3 months and wants me to wait. i don't get it???? says he thinks it is important to bond with his son in the new house without me so that his 7 year old will handle it better. his son already adores me. he says if i love him and his son i will give him the 2 or 3 months and is willing to go to a therapist with me to work it out but will only negociate a little on the time frame. i feel so put off that i don't even feel like seeing a therapist with him. any insight will really help.....thanks in advance.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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How Much Should I Disclose? Posted: 11/22/2009 6:08:35 PM
tell dirk she keeps asking about him and ask him what info he is comfortable with you disclosing.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Is it Wrong to call a woman handsome? Posted: 11/21/2009 9:37:28 PM
wow perfect timing on this one. during a routine medical check up this week, the doctor referred to me as handsome and it didn't sit well. it was better than alot of things she could have said but attractive or good looking would have been peferred. actually it made me feel kind of wierd, like are you saying i look like a guy? yikes!

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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men and emotional maturity Posted: 11/20/2009 12:43:37 PM
the key for women to rule out this small percentage of idiots is to "set the pace". once a man knows he can "fast track" a relationship, his testosterone is not getting a chance to do its thing. girls: keep it nice and slow, that will weed out or help the hampsters grow up a tad. and each time they grow up a tad eventually they will be capable of maintaining a healthy relationship with a women.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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She is confusing me Posted: 11/17/2009 11:00:13 PM
shes sooooo attractive to you because she is not available to you, but teases you everyday...........creepy. dude she most likely has zero sex appeal and no class. and when and if you ever meet her you will be totally disappointed. keep wasting your time on the phone......

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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The other side of WTF was he thinking? Posted: 11/16/2009 6:55:29 AM
dude please stop polarizing. there are lots of great women out there. we meet idiots too, and that doesn't make all guys bad.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Opposite gender roomate Posted: 11/15/2009 11:41:19 PM
you put yourself in this wierd position: rented a room out to a woman you find rather attractive and you both are single.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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horror movies = red flag? Posted: 11/15/2009 1:55:32 PM
our brains work like computers, what ya put in is what comes out. may not be in the form of bloody gore but it comes out in a rather negative mess of depression and other not so lovely emotions. big red flag to me. i would much prefer the company of someone spending their free time being creative or watching an intelligent or inspiring movie occasionally than someone who has a thing for horror. wonder what jung or freud would have to say about it.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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WTH is going on? Phone relationship?? Posted: 11/14/2009 6:08:28 PM
you wrote "this is the first girl where my main intention is to get in her heart, not her pants". looks like the player is getting played.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Ditching a person that's Bad News Posted: 11/14/2009 6:00:18 PM
tracy, in the future if you have a similar situation the way to do it is say you are starting to get back together with your old boyfriend. its about the least aggravating way to back out with a guy that might be a little crazy or violent. they don't feel slighted or rejected.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Should I Report This Guy? Posted: 11/14/2009 2:03:30 PM
please report this guy, you will be doing everyone a favor. he's clearly manipulative and abusive. you did nothing wrong, you gave him the benefit of the doubt, he proved himself a creep, and you cut communication.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Possible for a man to love two women at once? Posted: 11/13/2009 1:55:16 PM
kjacks; your exact words: "yes it is possible to love more than one person at a time. you can even be in love with multiple people........what we think and how we feel is not important as if and when we act on these thoughts and feelings.......divorce on the issue is pretty much up to you to determine. don't let this get in the way of you two..." ad nauseum. maybe you could learn to write a little more clearly or perhaps try to keep the spin out of your tale. you've got an idea in there somewhere i guess but its seems a little strange. you gotta wear the t-shirt.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Possible for a man to love two women at once? Posted: 11/13/2009 11:10:32 AM
gosh kjacks, aren't you the guy that was just promoting polyamory in msg.25? and advised her to hang in there while he has a messy divorce. lovely complicated messes. not everyone likes all that drama. hopefully you wear a warning t-shirt.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Girlfriend Question Posted: 11/13/2009 11:04:40 AM
what a complicated web she weaves....... so when she a has an issue about something, she presents herself as not having an issue, and then projects it on you. hmmm........boring. now she's got you wondering about lying and truth. most likely would have never occured to you if she hadn't created this obscure drama. if you want her back only do it with the understanding of couples therapy. and only with her enthusiam to work it out in therapy. if she drags her feet then she would rather be busy creating more drama for you to waste your time unfolding.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Possible for a man to love two women at once? Posted: 11/13/2009 10:52:37 AM
grow up joemac, your complicated life and its examples are the real thing and anyone who disagrees is ignorant and BS? look in the mirror. we are not all the same, thank god, and there will always be varying opinions unless you watch fox news that is.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Possible for a man to love two women at once? Posted: 11/13/2009 10:38:20 AM
nope, thats not love, and BTW most people experience diluted versions of love. sometimes i think only a percentage of the population is capable of knowing what real love means. the rest have some crazy azz ideas, look at the divorce rates. so IMO he doesn't love either one of you. cuz real love would never put another woman in the position of finding letters like that. or his wife finding out about you. someone capable of real love lives a simple uncomplicated life. frikin lunatics that will suck the life out of you are all over the map, and you need to be patient about this or that, and wait, and whatever else drivel comes out about the complexities they create.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Disclosing certain information Posted: 11/13/2009 10:17:12 AM
well put bump4bump, when a guy goes on about how horrible his ex gf or wife was..............i run and don't look back.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Wanting AND fearing intimacy; an internet syndrome? Posted: 11/13/2009 10:05:37 AM
yes intimacy issues can be found on and off the internet however there is a big difference btw a man that can get my attention and engage me in person vs. one that does it on the internet. IMO it takes greater social skills which hopefully is indicative of an individual who has done some inner homework and knows himself.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Wanting AND fearing intimacy; an internet syndrome? Posted: 11/12/2009 9:20:43 PM
thwarted emotional growth resulting in intimacy issues is occuring in epidemic proportions! much to do with not feeling worthy of being loved which is a result of not getting lots of love and attention as a small child. which is a result of being put in child care while both parents worked, or divorced and one being absent, or the parents not being mature enough to shower their children with love the need. then there's the excessive drug use during puberty or other formative years. and the mothers that drank or smoked pot or whatever when they were pregnant resulting in a child with intimacy issues etc..... ad nauseum. i read your profile and you most likely are intimidating to most internet daters which isn't hard to do. don't let them know you have rental property. hide that info for as long as you can. IMO you will do much better in the real world of dating. you are a cut above your average internet dater.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Introduction Posted: 11/12/2009 9:06:32 PM
since you started this post idenifying yourself as a single father, my advice is to date women with kids around the same age as yours. its about being on the same page and remembering that there is enough love to go around, so you don't need to do the usual my kids are my first priority routine with her on the first date. never prioritize people, its just plain rude. especially to the person you want to sleep with. if you really feel that you need to keep making that point as so many single parents do on this site then you are not ready for a relationship and only seek out other women who have the same banter. your love for a woman in your life is very very different than the love you have for your children so don't compare or prioritize and you just might find a winner.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Disclosing certain information Posted: 11/12/2009 8:54:33 PM
actually whatever has happened in your past is none of anyones business period. we all have skeletons and many people don't ever disclose sordid past experiences. besides when asked about previous relationships most people have such a personal slant that you really don't get the whole story so why even ask? or tell? your ex's bad behavior is his bad behavior not yours and you are not responsible to recount his BS to anyone who asks. let it go and have a nice day.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Baffled, Hurt and I Did Give Too Much of Myself Too Early... Posted: 11/11/2009 5:49:01 PM
then you were quite the respectful gentleman......her loss. and yes she is being very very rude. feel sorry for her, she obviously doesn't know any better. in the mean time, crank up the tunes and be grateful you found out as soon as you did.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Baffled, Hurt and I Did Give Too Much of Myself Too Early... Posted: 11/11/2009 5:24:12 PM
westernport, now is not the time for anyone to criticize you, pof posters can get a bit carried away, ignore it. you two acquainted yourselves for quite some time on the phone and internet, 2 months right? when you finally met in person you moved fast, it happens to the best of us, really. its o.k. you did nothing wrong. we've all gotten caught up in the moment, thats why god made condoms haha! the only problem here is that she is acting without respect and integrity at this very moment. it hurts but you will get over it soon enough. unfortunately alot of people have issues these days, so just remember its best to go nice and slow. they do reveal themselves soon enough. at least you got out there and had the courage to meet someone new. thats more than alot of people can say as they hide behind their screens. BTW if it was me i would call or write her and say o.k. no problem, i can't give you any space because thats not how i work. after making love and getting close to someone i actually like to talk to them. so we don't need to see one another any longer. are you always distant and uncaring after sex?

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Baffled, Hurt and I Did Give Too Much of Myself Too Early... Posted: 11/11/2009 11:09:15 AM
westernport, if i had that kind of a weekend with a guy, and liked him, and needed a little space, i would say it in a real sweet way as to not scare him off. and i would not leave him not knowing whats up. believe it or not, often times someone will shut down while you are dating them because they do not feel worthy of your love. also they see how awesome you are and are afraid if they fall in love you might leave them. so many people are just plain scared. none-the -less she is handling this in a very immature manner. she needs some therapy and it just not ethical of her to jerk you or anyone else around emotionally. we all have good sides to us and you have seen hers. now you are seeing her weaknesses/bad side. not much fun is it?

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Baffled, Hurt and I Did Give Too Much of Myself Too Early... Posted: 11/11/2009 9:35:12 AM
"she also added that she falls hard for men, and she has had to let a lot of them go". ... translation: she told you that she has intimacy issues, can't commit and goes thru a lot of guys. people will always tell you what they want out of a relationship on the first couple of dates. listen to what they say. sorry westernport, we all get to learn the hard way from time to time. dating can be treacherous in the current environment.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Roller Coasting Lover Posted: 11/11/2009 8:59:43 AM
yes mosaic, it does matter what pof posters think, he asked us. you came up with some brilliant advice and here's my thoughts: sorry love but your boy is very very manipulative. people that haven't learned how to love yet can be amazing with their BS manipulations. its down right scary. it's not you. he's just worked your emotions so hard you don't know whats real and what isn't real with him anymore. i think a month or two with a good therapist will help you soooo much. we don't live in a vacuum and there are times to ask for help. you need that extra boost so you can see whats really going on and play it as you choose, not how he manipulates it. good luck!

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Looking to move in with my GF but family doesn't agree Posted: 11/10/2009 1:18:17 PM
geez, your family loves you. how can you tell them a girl is moving in without even introducing her first? some huge apologies are due to all parties here. we all make mistakes, just recognise that you did. slow it down with the g/f and tell mom she's right and you are putting the brakes on and you definately want her input. as her son you will consume many of her thoughts everyday of her life, remember that. the love of a mother for her child is undescribable....learn to honor that.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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What do you make of this? Is this BPD? Posted: 11/9/2009 7:50:21 PM
geez sunnier, think ya could be a little bit less caustic to a woman going thru a hard time? she's asking for help from concerned individuals not strangers. some people actually believe that we are all here ultimately to help one another. go figure?

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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What do you make of this? Is this BPD? Posted: 11/9/2009 12:40:18 PM
best to completely ignore the critical goons that chime in here. pof has its share of bottom feeders. little crustaceans wallowing in murky waters that climb out now and then finding a computer to share their mucky brilliance with us. pity them.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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What do you make of this? Is this BPD? Posted: 11/9/2009 12:36:50 PM
i think it would help you to get a grip on this situation. obviously he's going thru some tough changes due to the economy but you need to let him know you want to be a man's sanctuary not the butt of his frustration. but tell him you understand his life is difficult now and to just give you a call when he wants to get together and you can make plans to do things, not to hang out at your house. then just stop calling him unless it is to call back. be happy, cheerful and let him know you are doing fun stuff in your life when he is not around. hold back with your affection and sexuality unless you are content being week end lovers only. not my cup of tea and i doubt it is yours. now see what he does......give him time. be very sweet. if you are patient you'll see what he's got. you may like and you may not but you will see what he offers a relationship when you release all the pressure.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Russian women with US citizenship Posted: 11/9/2009 10:40:22 AM
hi and just to digress here back to the origional post: this one is a no-brainer. there are warnings all over the internet about russian women wanting to marry american men and the mulitude of related money scams, its right up there with the nigerian scams. and of course there must be many genuine russian women in the same category as we cannot generalize but do proceed with caution........

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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a single dads shattered heart Posted: 11/9/2009 10:19:32 AM
jamesdleo, i checked out your profile and you are 28, looking for women 18 to 27. thats your problem right there. you need a woman your age or older and hopefully with young children as yourself then you will both be on the same page. why don't you go for one 10 years older. there are some amazingly hot 38 year old women on this site that could make your head spin, and with their experience you could feel so loved your feet would have a hard time touching the ground. anyone who promotes sex without a relationship is an idiot. STD's are rampant, that free love attitude from the 60's is dead along with all the stupid people that screw indiscriminately. rubbers break and fall off. or how about a nice case of herpes to haul around the rest of your life? tell your brother to grow up and respect women and find yourself a real woman. an 18 year old is a child.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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seriously need some help on helping my friend of 30 years Posted: 11/9/2009 9:38:59 AM
i think that anyone telling our OP to butt out is either identifying themselves as an abuser or one who condones it. real people don't like to see their friends or anyone for that matter in bad shape. crazy that others think its just fine.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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A Plugged up Toilet, so she packed up and left?! Should I let it go? Posted: 11/8/2009 10:14:37 AM
OP, get some counseling. even just a few sessions can help you immensely. we don't know everything, admit that to yourself and try to learn about loving relationships. because its a two-way street, and you deserve to be loved too!

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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seriously need some help on helping my friend of 30 years Posted: 11/8/2009 10:01:01 AM
i would like to take silken fire's post about PTSD a step further...... the book "the verbally abusive relationship" most insightfully explains how an adult who was abused or neglected as a child can get caught in the cycle of abuse and not be consciously aware of it. and taking them in and out of PTSD. zen beth, landra and anyone else who doesn't have much respect for the wife or is mystified by anyone who stays in an emotionally abusive relationship READ THE BOOK. i no longer judge these people and now have huge compassion for them and help whenever i can. let's not think we know everything......we are in a constant state of growth and learning.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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A Plugged up Toilet, so she packed up and left?! Should I let it go? Posted: 11/8/2009 9:19:18 AM
just for the fun of it let's give her the benefit of the doubt. 11 years in a relationship with money but not love, maybe she is just running the old program. i would recommend you tell her that you love her but you are both not quite ready to live together yet. start from scratch. tell her you want to start your relationship all over again. and this time you set your boundaries. for example in a loving way suggest to her that you would be very happy if she could try to cook for you once and a while. also suggest she slowly get to know your kids better, it was just too soon. see what she does. if she responds favorably, then she is mature enough to learn and grow in a positive manner and it sounds like you have enough patience. if not, then you got your answer my dear and trust me don't sweat it too much cuz the world is full of wonderful women.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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seriously need some help on helping my friend of 30 years Posted: 11/7/2009 9:47:16 PM
kaylee, i like what the nomadic one has to say in msg. 5. in fact i would like to take that a step further and recommend you purchase and present that book to your friend as a gift. maybe one day she will pick it up when she is ready. i commend you for caring for your friend and do please continue to be proactive with her. she most likely slips into denial with this guy and you can help her be in touch with reality. good work! boo! to the folk who say to butt out. it takes courage to help a friend in a situation like this, good lord knows she needs it. in fact she needs lots and lots of help from all her family and friends and neighbors.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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49 and never married/no children Posted: 11/7/2009 10:40:39 AM
joe mac, i disagree with what you have just written. i think your judgement doubts need to be about your friends and not about the woman. they succeeded in putting doubt and suspicion where there was love and trust being formed. its delicate and our friends are supposed to back us up, not scare us needlessly. there are lots of very intelligent people that look at the divorce rates and all the legal baloney that goes with it and have chosen not to do the paperwork but are deeply committed in LTR's. not having children in an overpopulated world is also considered compassionate and intelligent by many.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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49 and never married/no children Posted: 11/6/2009 6:25:51 PM
i think your friends are a little retarded. tell them they need to learn to be supportive of you and your relationships. geez, you find a great woman and they try to derail you. i guess they think a divorcee with 5 underage kids is a better deal for you. just think, no traveling and little free time. yeah your friends got your back buddy. if you are smart you won't introduce her to these bozo's, might scare her away to see who you hang out with.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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caught my fiance having cyber sex and text sex with other women Posted: 11/6/2009 3:48:33 PM
tiger, porn has everything to do with it if the individual makes the choice to focus on it or whichever deviant behavior they choose. with your values you are on one end of the spectrum, remember its about the people in the middle, the majority and they are the ones that if given improper direction from society will go down hill or with proper instruction will go up the hill. thats our responsibility.....helping the ones in the middle. don't assume just because making good decisions is easy for you it is easy for the rest, its not. most people with the same amount and type of exposure you experienced would not be in very good shape. one of the reasons our economy is shot is because if given the opportunity most people will live beyond their means. thats one of many examples. when i grew up, i'm older than you, in school we were taught that being in debt was a sign of bad character and to avoid it and the teachers quoted abraham lincoln, "a borrower nor a lender be". i told that to my bank manager when i turned down a credit line he laughed and said "you have got to be kidding, its not that way anymore".

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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Dating when is it appropriate to take yourself off the market? Posted: 11/6/2009 3:19:08 PM
sexysize2, i think you can do much better. after one month it is not cool to call you a few times a day or talk about concrete plans. thats too fast and speaks of an immature personality. add chatting with some girls here on pof and you get a guy that will most likely bring tons of unnecessary drama into a relationship. you feel bad because seeing him had some good elements and thats hard to lose all of a sudden. maybe if you talk with him and express all your feelings it will make you feel better. remember "the truth will set you free". and perhaps if he shapes up you can change you mind or not.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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How to prevent THIS type of hurt? Posted: 11/6/2009 9:34:23 AM
msg. 38, datingmatingrelating, would you pls give us the equivalent behavior for a man in your beautifully written insightful post about how to tell if a woman genuinely loves you?

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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someone please try and help me understand... Posted: 11/5/2009 9:29:01 PM
its some strange behavior that eminates from a very guilty conscience. he doesn't live with your son anymore, he is not providing for you or your son, he is not there for him on a daily basis when your son needs him the most. this just tweaks some men out. i've seen it repeatedly. they turn into idiots. divorce sux.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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How to prevent THIS type of hurt? Posted: 11/5/2009 9:09:00 PM
tom what is your objection to exclusive dating? its still just dating, getting to know one another slowly. exclusivity means you aren't trying to get to know a few people at the same time. nothing like having tom pick you up for a date while****just happens to stop by with some flowers and harry calls to say hi.

sleeping beauty

Joined: 6/19/2008

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caught my fiance having cyber sex and text sex with other women Posted: 11/5/2009 6:11:16 PM
tiger, i didn't realize that cave drawings were mass produced and available to every teenager. prior to the invention of the printing press and video, owning pornographic literature was rare. internet porn is all new to the human experience and personally i don't think its a good idea. once it becomes acceptable to a man or a woman to objectify the opposite sex in a sexual fashion, the deviance expands and will usually be a problem in that individuals relationships. the fiance in question started off with just checking out porn sites, now he's a creepy dude that devastated his girl. yuk! so go ahead and promote the virtues of porn.......

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