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 Author Thread: Decoding the Female Language
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 690 (view)
 
Decoding the Female Language
Posted: 9/13/2009 12:33:03 PM
Oh like we're supposed to tell what a hair flip means? You're kidding right. We assume your hair is in your eyes. Looking us up and down to us means 1, check my zipper 2, is there a stain on my clothes somewhere I didn't notice, 3 maybe you don't like my shoes. And if thought every time someone smiled at me, it meant they were interested, I would think half the women out there were interested. I had someone tell me I was hottie. THAT WORKED! And that's the point this guy is trying to make. Subtle won't work! Ok I feel another rant lol.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Scared of Getting Hurt- does it happen?
Posted: 8/15/2009 4:45:13 AM
I think that's a bit of a paradox. You won't get scared of being hurt until you actually have feelings for someone and then you're already in over your head. I don't know if you can be scared of being hurt by someone you don't have feelings for. Some people may be scared of commitment but that's a different issue. We generally walk away because we're not interested or found someone we're more interested in. There's no harm in interpreting someone being afraid of commit as the reason they left. Nobody likes to think someone just wasn't interested so I guess it's a way of leaving your self esteem in tact.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
My Profile...Opinions
Posted: 8/15/2009 4:29:45 AM
That's funnier than mine. I'm thinking about injecting some more humor into my profile after seeing yours or I may just start drinking
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Disregarding older men ...is it considered shallow of me??
Posted: 8/10/2009 10:36:59 AM
speaking as a 45 year old guy - NO! I wish more women felt that way
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Group photo as a profile pic?
Posted: 8/10/2009 10:34:22 AM
lol dude great pic on your profile
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Is this man a player or what?
Posted: 8/10/2009 10:13:02 AM
Well to be honest, who cares if he's a player? Not interested is not interested. Look for another guy. There's lots.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Do people get humor on a profile?
Posted: 7/30/2009 1:39:04 PM
Humor is always a good way to go. I might have overdid it on mine lol but it works.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
6 years 2 children and she left
Posted: 4/24/2009 3:46:35 AM
Oh yeah, spruce up your profile a bit, add some humor and go with it. Don't be so serious and make sure you don't cry about your ex when you go out on dates. You may find yourself better off in the long run.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
6 years 2 children and she left
Posted: 4/24/2009 3:43:56 AM
Don't listen to your counselor. A chemical imbalance diagnosis is easy to claim and difficult to prove. By the time you wanted to talk about the problems it sounds like she had a foot (or more) out the door. Unless you see a serious and realistic chance of getting it back together, you should move on. Does her twin sisters boyfriend also have a chemical imbalance? Sometimes this just happens and who knows what drives it - don't blame yourself and try to learn what you can from the experience but you should put it behind you and concentrate on your kids and finding someone else. There's lots of people that are attractive, lonely and available. Find one.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Do you find this?
Posted: 4/19/2009 12:12:37 PM
I'll tell you what I've observed. I'm 44 and married for 24 years (don't ask why I'm here it's a long story) but I've noticed that what you observe is true and it gets worse as I get older. I used to be able to tell a woman I was married and that would be that. All bets are off now and being married isn't enough for them to move on. I stayed faithful by removing the temptation but when that doesn't work, I have to admit, I have caved a couple of times. I don't know if it's lack of decent choices out there or what but I've been flat out propositioned by attractive women even after they know I'm married. I've been hit on at stop lights. I was already seeing someone that knew I was married and her best friend moved on me. It's insane but when I was in my 20's and 30's I didn't get near what I do now. Maybe they are more attracted to older guys but I've never been hit on like I am now. I wish I could say it's just been simple flirting but that's not the case. Hmmm bet I get some lovely responses to this post and will tell anyone with the urge to trash me, the story is much more complicated than I'm telling anyone.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Why are there guys that don't get the message that you are not interested?
Posted: 4/19/2009 11:00:11 AM
You have to understand something. Face it, more guys make first contact on here. ANY response aside from GO AWAY may be taken as you opening the door a little and unfortunately a little is enough for a lot of guys because of all of the competition. We're guys, we all like to think we're great so why shouldn't you. I really think you're better off not responding than sending a thank you. They can look at their sent msgs and see read and deleted and know to move on. I'm not talking about the freaks out there that go nuts if you don't respond. I'll never understand them. But if you send any response that is remotely nice when you're really not interested, you could be considered as someone sending mixed messages.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Putting Sex on Profile
Posted: 4/19/2009 8:06:51 AM
I've seen worse things than that on profiles. I've also seen some guys that talk about how well off they are - I own my own house - business - and am totally financially secure. It's like saying "I have nothing else to offer, please date me for my money! I also like the ones who claim to have a great sense of humor but a completely generic, boring profile. I saw one that starts out "I'm a computer geek that likes video games of all sorts". Chicks really dig that dude! I also saw one that talked about what he "wanted" to do with his life and was "thinking" about education and a better job. Please date me, I'm very unhappy with who I am but I have thought about changing it but I probably won't.

I have to say - women can have some pretty amazing things on theirs too: "I like fine dining and going out but I also like to just snuggle on the couch in front of a movie". I can't figure out what a 3rd option would be to either going out or staying home. I also like the ones that have 18 pictures up and not one that you can see anything below their neck and then says average weight or a few extra lbs. Don't they think the guy will ever see them from the neck down in person? I also like the bitter (recently divorced) ones that list the things they don't want without a mention of what they do because they are only looking for a guy that won't ever piss them off. Unfortunately - there's no such thing.
The way I see it, look at their pics - check out their situation (ya know like if they have kids and where they live - if they smoke crack or exercise 18 times a week and expect most of your dates will be at the gym ) exchange maybe 2 to 3 e-mails and then meet for a quick cup of coffee. No profile can tell you if this person is for you. You need to see them up close. Don't waste a lot of time with online crap because we all have a tendency to make ourselves sound just a little better than we really are. That's just human nature. You're complaining about Mr. Sensitive who's saying what he thinks women are interested in. I haven't met a guy who wasn't interested in sex - so mentioning that is kinda stupid and a waste of time but the "cuddler" and the guy proclaiming to be a romantic (except when the game is on) are the ones that seem to be hiding as much as they can to lure women in.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
'IRONY' It happens when you are not looking.why?
Posted: 4/7/2009 8:18:04 AM
Careful the medication you're on may be clouding your judgment. For now your the focus of his attention but you notice he didn't DELETE the stuff out of his phone. Maybe he's thinking about getting serious but be careful cause it seems like as soon as you put your heart on the line someone rips it out of your chest. Some people just like the chase and once caught - on to the next chase. I prefer having low expectations and I am seldom disappointed. You said he seems to like you and you "don't know why". You may want to check your self esteem issues and figure out why he might like you.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Profile Review - 1st time so please be gentle
Posted: 4/4/2009 10:22:22 PM
hmm Well you got 2 in America. Ever consider moving?
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Posted: 4/4/2009 10:18:57 PM
whew and I though I was rough lol. That dude's like Simon Cowel. I do agree don't describe physical attributes for what you like. Hey we all like a few different types. See what happens and don't forget take the advice YOU see fit. Everyone makes suggestions based on their own personal opinions.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
review - give it to me straight
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:50:10 PM
Well I think you should have a couple of shots without you smiling and expecting to get your pic taken.
Next you said "so we'll see where I eventually end up". Definitely lose that line. You may want to consider losing this line too:
"It'd be great to find the girl of my dreams on this site, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen." Not sure why but I don't think it should be there. Throw in a joke somewhere too - something like First date: Well I'm kinda hoping for sex and then maybe some coffee. Ok fine maybe just the coffee. Can't blame me for trying :)
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Profile review (dont water it down)
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:35:29 PM
I'm tempted to say ooops my bad rofl. I think he may come back strong with a new nick and get his act together to find someone. He did ask for the brutal truth though. :)
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Advice and suggestions requested for my profile (updated!)
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:19:52 PM
Hmmm a few good lines in my profile? I love each and every one of them but I did run completely out of room :( And I have so much more to say.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Advice and suggestions requested for my profile (updated!)
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:17:03 PM
lol I'm thinking you may want to keep listening to the lyrics in your head and ignore the voices. And don't buy any guns just in case :)
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Profile review (dont water it down)
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:08:27 PM
Dude????? "My pictures suck" ???? Read below this is the overall tone I pasted from your profile. I felt suicidal after I read this! Here's what I see:
I'm completely depressed I have a hard time coping - one day I'd like to do something (I'm not PLANNING it) but I'd like to. MAYBE I'll become successful if I work for a dying industry and I'll hate your kids even though I have low standards. Who wants to know more about me?

old beetle forget whats troubling me mellow out turn a wrench and get dirty, that bug isn't gonna fix itself. One of these days, I'd like to go back to school and be an engineer Hopefully I get in with a non-bankrupt automaker my requirements aren't much problem, if you were to have kids its just that Im not that good Well thats enough of me, Ill leave the rest for you to find out.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
how about a review pls.
Posted: 4/4/2009 8:50:13 PM
ok - if you still have a mustache then lose the other 2 pics. If you don't then lose the pic with the mustache - nobody cares what you used to look like lol. Start out the first paragraph with serious crap - your looking for someone nice, funny, no bigger than a size 7 shoe - bla bla bla. You can interject some humor in the 2nd paragraph and that will work. Also, find something a little exciting in your interests - Bungee jumping - peeing on police cars - shoplifting... Just something besides watching golf. Who doesn't want a little excitement? And your off!
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Advice and suggestions requested for my profile (updated!)
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:24:08 AM
Hey if he sees something funny why not use it. You can like the same music without being the song writer. Lets face it - a profile is just a way to open the door to meet someone. Once the door is open - ya never know what's gonna happen. Annie might be right about asking other women to review but I figured if you're going to ask someone it may as well be someone who saw your profile already and kept walking so at least you have nothing to lose as long as your EXTREMELY polite and not offended if she tells you to f*** off.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Profile review! Thanks, much appreciated!
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:10:35 AM
Oh my god - where do I start? You only have 1 decent pic and if I looked like you, I'd be on 8,000 peoples favorites. You could probably get away with a simple nice guy profile with a few more decent pics and have them lining up but at this point your shooting yourself in the foot. Here's what I get when I read your profile: Crappy music - hates kids - severely egotistical - atheist that smokes. You need to let them get to know you and let that stuff out slowly - unless you really are goofy in which case you shouldn't be surprised you're having no success. I'm not trying to be a pr*** but you need to look at your profile objectively. Good luck.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Posted: 4/4/2009 9:01:28 AM
ok - having one silly pic is enough (for humor) and maybe a shot of you standing so they can see you a little better. Your first paragraph paints an awful picture and I doubt they would go any further. At the very least you should rearrange the order and talk about your daughter first. You need to come off a little more sure of yourself and don't mention your work unless it's a vital part of who you are. Oh and at 28 years old "does not want children" is a kiss of death kinda like saying you're a drug addict. Change it to unsure or something. Your quirky sense of humor isn't really working if they don't get it. Try a little more straight forward humor on a profile. You'll probably have much better success after that. Good luck.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Profile Review - 1st time so please be gentle
Posted: 4/4/2009 8:39:27 AM
Well the nick doesn't necessarily need to be well thought out. But tarnished might be a sign. Edumacated seemed kinda funny to me especially with your graduate degree. Thanks for the feedback on mine - it's way over the top and how I got here is a long long story but I've actually had some interest and nobody was more surprised than me. I mean look at my nick - if that isn't enough to scare someone off, I don't know what is.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Advice and suggestions requested for my profile (updated!)
Posted: 4/4/2009 8:30:51 AM
You have pretty much a standard profile - you need to add some spark. Something funny and something that sets you apart from the average guy. My profile is actually one long joke (it's too much but I do get great responses) If you can't come up with anything swipe a line or 2 from mine (you won't be the first). The other thing you might want to try is seeing which girls did view your profile and politely tell them you're not trying to hit on them just looking for profile advice and see what they say - it may also be a way in :) good luck.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Is there some revision needed?
Posted: 4/3/2009 10:35:59 AM
wow - women don't like sarcasm? I'm really screwed on my profile lol. The guy could stand to lose some weight - sorry. He'd feel better about himself and maybe the negativity would go away without effort.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Profile Review - 1st time so please be gentle
Posted: 4/3/2009 10:27:42 AM
Well I'm finding today somewhat interesting. You just happen to be the second guy with a graduate degree that needs an answer - Headline - Well Edumacated. That was easy too. Oh - tarnished-halo - not too sure about the nick though.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Go on then!
Posted: 4/3/2009 10:14:12 AM
Actually pretty funny profile. Hey the only normal people are people you don't know that well. Maybe I should do a piece on normalcy on my profile :) . Hmm I could work with that.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
I know it's there but what is it????
Posted: 4/3/2009 10:08:47 AM
2 words - graduate degree. That was easy! In fact, you should have figured that out since you have a graduate degree :) So tell everyone to go out and get a graduate degree and they can get women too.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Lookin foward to trying this weekend!
Posted: 4/2/2009 1:18:20 PM
toys? on a guy? ewwwwwww! yep gay - totally gay. Sorry.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 8 (view)
 
GF won't stop hanging out with EX's!!
Posted: 4/2/2009 10:10:06 AM
Well it comes down to 1 word: Trust. You have a dilemma here because you wouldn't be mad if you trusted her. If you accuse her of doing something with these guys and she isn't than you're the bad guy. Long distance relationships are really tricky and I understand why you have a problem here. At least she's telling you what she's up to and that does add some credibility. I would NOT advise "kicking her to the curb". She may just hit the next guy she sees for spite. She's obviously got a few ex's and if you handle this poorly, you'll be the next. If you do call her on this, I would explain that it's not her you don't trust, it's the other guys. The one thing on your side is that she said she would stop doing it. Ask her if you heard her right when she said that. If you're getting double talk - time to say goodbye because some people simply can't be trusted. Good luck - let me know what happens.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
The Truth behind profiles
Posted: 4/1/2009 12:10:58 PM
I thought I would at least tell you what I think when I read these. Also, I'm bored. I typed in all caps so you can tell what's mine - and also to be obnoxious.

“Occasional smoker” - If she could fit an entire pack of cigarettes in her mouth, light it on fire, and inhale until her lungs explode… she would. And would then proceed to spend the rest of her non-smoking time yammering on about how she needs to quit smoking once and for all, and this time she means it!MEANS SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE AN OCCASIONAL SMOKER.

“Occasional drinker” -She's the one at parties that spends the first half of the night bent back with a funnel full of 140 proof whisky being tossed down her pie hole; and the second half with her fat and only friend holding her hair back while she projectile vomits into the host’s shower stall. YOUR A LITTLE OFF HERE. SPENDS 1ST PART OF THE NIGHT CHUGGING BEER STRAIGHT OUT OF THE KEG - 2ND PART OF THE NIGHT MAKING OUT WITH YOUR BEST FRIEND AND THE END OF THE NIGHT THROWING UP IN VARIOUS SPOTS AROUND THE LIVING ROOM.

“I like to have fun” - Means she never has any fun, has no friends or hobbies, and hopes you’re going to introduce her to all of your fun friends and take her to all of your fun parties and events so she can finally have a life. I SEE THIS AND I THINK SHE LIKES TO HAVE FUN WITH YOU, YOUR BROTHER, HIS BEST FRIEND, THE 18 YR OLD ACROSS THE STREET AND THE MAILMAN.

“I’m goal oriented” - She will tell you every day about her desperate desires for a better job, and complain that she is above her current job, but will never actually get a better job because she enjoys whining about her current pathetic state of affairs too much. I SEE THIS AS SHE'S GONNA HAVE A LIST OF STUFF FOR YOU TO DO EVERY DAY!

“Looking for a committed relationship” - She is severely insecure and will prove it to you by asking you about every single place you go, person you see and web site you visit, bar none. She would implant a GPS tracking device in your neck if she could… sleep tight!
GOT THIS ONE DEAD ON.

“Body Size: Average” - The rolls of fat hanging out the sides of her shirt that are remarkably similar in appearance to when you pop open a new pack of unbaked Pillsbury bread sticks “are natural and you’re just going to have to accept them” (along with their ever increasing growth in size). AND NOTHING BUT FACE SHOTS ON HER PROFILE

“Height: Prefer Not To Say”- She’s either troll short with those stumpy little legs swishing together as she walks trying to keep up with you; or so tall that unless you’re Shaq it would be like ****ing a giraffe. NEVER SAW THAT ONE

“I am career minded” - Every day she will fill you in on every microscopic, mind numbingly boring, blow by blow description of her monotonous low-paying job in such painstaking detail that you will be rummaging through the closets and drawers for something to hang yourself with. AH BUT DON'T FORGET SHE ONLY DATES GUYS THAT MAKE LESS MONEY THAN SHE DOES SO THEY ARE ALWAYS INSECURE.

“Likes to travel”- Everyone loves to travel. But when she says it, it means she enjoyed that trip to Disney Land Florida with her folks when she was twelve. She’ll then drone on about all the places she wants to go to, but never will. Like all inclusive trips to Cuba where she can discover her alcoholic binge drinking tendencies and rendezvous with strange men for unbridled promiscuous sex in your absence. AGREED

“He must be well off” - She doesn’t in fact make any money herself, but has spectacularly expensive taste and needs someone else to shovel an endless supply of cash her way so that she can explore the deepest and darkest corners of her consumerism fantasies without restraint. YOU WILL AT LEAST GET SEX IF YOU PONY UP.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 8 (view)
 
The Truth behind profiles
Posted: 4/1/2009 11:40:29 AM
Sorry about the ? on the compliment. I'm usually as subtle as a train wreck. Would WAY hot have been better?
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
For all the lost Souls and Broken Hearted Much Love To U
Posted: 4/1/2009 3:56:27 AM
Sometimes I don't think you decide to fall in love with someone. Sometimes you just do. Even when you know the person isn't right for you. Even when it's a person you know can't be trusted. Even after you get crushed and end it, you're still stuck with feelings you don't want. Even when you don't blame the other person for hurting you, you're still heartbroken. Even when you don't blame yourself for falling in love, you're still stuck with it. Love doesn't always make sense.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
constructive criticism/ profile review
Posted: 3/31/2009 11:44:26 AM
ok you need some humor. Look at almost all of the girls profiles and the first thing they mention is a sense of humor. First date is a good spot to write something funny. Ya know something romantic like get drunk and vandalize a police car together or take turns laughing at strangers for no reason to see how they react. I dunno get creative. Humor works.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 9 (view)
 
I talk too much....and my profile shows that....
Posted: 3/31/2009 11:36:34 AM
Leave it. If you happen to be extremely verbose than you should let that show. Besides if you wanted to post something guys are really interested in it would be in the form of a pic that you aren't allowed to post on here lol.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
The Truth behind profiles
Posted: 3/31/2009 11:15:46 AM
btw you look way hot. Although "new age" religion really means you're into sacrificing small children inside a pentagram made up of crystals.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
The Truth behind profiles
Posted: 3/31/2009 11:13:15 AM
You should read my profile, I talk about profile liars and a lot of other things lol. Hey send me an e-mail and let me know what you think.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
What should I do?
Posted: 3/31/2009 10:51:06 AM
Personally, who knows what she's doing. I wouldn't buy the celibacy garbage either. Boy girl friendships are difficult to maintain as one of them winds up wanting more. Here's my advice: End the relationship and the friendship. Tell her you're not willing to be just friends and if she's not interested in a "real" relationship that you're moving on and can't be friends because you obviously have feelings. That was easy :) Hmm no more sex huh? That's REAL easy.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 38 (view)
 
What would you do?
Posted: 3/31/2009 10:40:38 AM
Make sure she's not still seeing him. If she's not, get over it.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
What am I doing wrong
Posted: 3/27/2009 11:26:09 AM
ummm comic books and geek??? Are you nuts? Let them LEARN that it's an endearing quality about you and not what you're all about. Put yourself in their shoes. They see you ignoring them for Batman! Feel free to swipe a joke or 2 from my profile. Show some confidence. Yeah the pic could be better too. Don't get too serious right away and don't be TOO sensitive out of the gate. You should do well.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Modified profile is a dud.
Posted: 3/27/2009 11:18:12 AM
Dude, girls love a sense of humor. I've had some success here with mine. I'm married and I don't even have a pic posted. Look at my nick for god's sake. I had a chick last week leave me her phone number on her first response. Feel free to swipe some of my stuff - I won't sue. The other thing is get your there's theirs straight. Run a spell check if you need to. Don't be too honest. Most people lie to a certain degree and if you're being completely honest you're going to come off weak and women always claim to want a sensitive guy which is a nice thought but what they really want is someone with confidence and someone strong. Stop doing what they ask - get them to do what you ask. **** --- maybe but I'm doing well. Ok girls - slam away at me lol. Good luck dude.
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 375 (view)
 
Best bumper sticker
Posted: 8/22/2008 9:53:42 PM
Speed - Follow - or get out of my way!!!! Road rage isn't the problem, it's the people that cause it!!!!
 brokeandinsane
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Whats your song?
Posted: 8/22/2008 9:52:35 PM
That would be - Behind Blue Eyes. :) and I'm bored, you're funny - so I'll just keep going
 
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