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 Author Thread: Are Our Standards Too High & Options to Great ?
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Are Our Standards Too High & Options to Great ?
Posted: 11/23/2009 4:42:20 PM

She said "Find a bald, fat, old, hairy man. He will treat you right and be faithful to you. The handsome men know they are handsome and because of that won't appreciate you, will get bored with you once you fall in love with them and will never see you as a keeper because they are so hott, they can get any girl they want."


nothing against grams but there seems to be an all or nothing ring here with no in between.
as in there are only hot guys and then there are old bald fat guys

are there no kind of good looking or not bad to look at or maybe even a average looking unless you`ve had a few drinks then he`s hot.......guys?
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 17 (view)
 
What went wrong
Posted: 11/23/2009 2:44:04 PM

Was the time he had with me so bad that he couldn't even write to tell me that he didn't want to have anything to do with me.


its hard to say something like that to someone.

so he said it like this~

He said no I've just been busy with my son and I really didn't have any feelings for yu.



What gives? What changed?


when you talk online/webcam and on the phone its one thing but meeting in person is the real acid test as to whether it will turn into something or fizzle out for one or both people.

buyers remorse.


Are guys just all ***holes?


come on you`re better than to be like that.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Are Our Standards Too High & Options to Great ?
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:44:30 PM

how do you know there's a delete vote going on?


every new thread has the auto-option of deletion with a drop down of "pick a reason."
the vote is over and it was voted against deleting.


Is it our lack of experience, intelligence or common sense that makes it so that "we" are bringing hurt and failure upon ourselves ?


the general consensus around here dictates that "if you are finding yourself with the same people all the time and if they are bottom feeders (in different packaging) then the problem is you and that you are damaged person who picks people who are bad for you and you need therapy" (add nauseum)

i`m sure you`ve seen this on here before if not get ready you will see alot of it in this thread but before you get brainwashed by a barage of such pop-psychology from the masses allow me this~

i do not think you nor most of the single people here are any more damaged nor intact than anyone else.
sure we may be bringing the hurt onto ourselves when we meet people and it doesnt work out but it isnt necessarily all failures.
these failures are experiences we all need in order to learn and grow.
like a necessary evil.
some of us just need more experience before we get it right and as far as losers and bottom feeders one persons loser is another persons match.
someday you`ll find that match.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
What Would You Do?!
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:25:36 PM
i dont think you overeacted meeting someone new is a private matter and adding family especially an unexpected and sudden ambush of the family could be too much at that time.
i think i would have been amused by your reaction, you sneaking me away to hide from the family and keep me all to yourself.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Are Our Standards Too High & Options to Great ?
Posted: 11/23/2009 1:17:40 PM

Ok I am also new here.....why is there a delete vote going on?


forum nazis
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Man asks woman to go to his home after dinner on first date
Posted: 11/22/2009 8:35:30 PM

they're not all raving sex-crazed maniacs, you know...


thanks :)
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 107 (view)
 
Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking?
Posted: 11/22/2009 8:32:29 PM

I wasn't a participant in the other thread and don't agree with it


good we need more like you around here.


I sooo want to move to the US.


well what are you waiting for come on over and bring your (girl)friends.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 102 (view)
 
Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking?
Posted: 11/22/2009 6:36:53 PM

So, as others have said, if you approach someone and start a conversation with no agenda, then it isn't a 'pickup' is is 'conversation'.


this was mentioned in the other thread and the women still insisted that they didnt want to be approached in certain places no matter the quality of the approach by the man nor whether she found him attractive or not.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 100 (view)
 
Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking?
Posted: 11/22/2009 5:02:29 PM
There are women who would reject you despite finding you attractive, if you approach them at the wrong place.


funny~ the link to the thread that i posted was 20 pages of women agreeing with that same assessment and now several months later we have a thread with women whining about not being approached in those same places.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 81 (view)
 
Breaking up and reading POF comments from the loser
Posted: 11/18/2009 6:25:48 PM

When people conduct bitter post-mortems in the forums, IMO, it speaks volumes about them. Good for you for not retaliating. It would've been undignified and only dragged things out, OP.


that the original plan of retaliation were deleted does not remove said retaliation.

in fact she called him a loser thus this thread actually is still someone venting about someone in the forums and is indeed a form of retaliation.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 41 (view)
 
I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
Posted: 11/18/2009 3:12:07 PM
if this is the same guy you`ve been seeing only since mid september then you are absolutely smothering him with way too much way too soon.

way too fast for him slow down and he`s working 80+ hours a week so give him a break dont be another responsibility he must take care of.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Tell me if I'm correct...
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:09:45 PM

a good rule of thumb to follow here is not to have sex on the first date or so....if they disappear or don't want to meet again, you have your answer.)


disagree
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking?
Posted: 11/16/2009 3:45:21 PM
the following thread touches on this-

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts3344116.aspx

post gleaned from that thread-



The worst advice I see to men in these Forums is to talk to women everywhere, try to pick em up at the supermarket, the book store etc... NO NO NO!!!!
Do you know how scarey it can be for a woman alone to be accosted in the book shop/fruit and veg aisle?
Some total stranger coming up to you, talking some nonsense about cabbages, with a great big smile plastered on his face?
uhoh,.. nutter alert!!


and alot of women participating in that thread agreed.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 72 (view)
 
She said she dosen't need men for sex, because she has her toys
Posted: 11/10/2009 5:54:53 PM
whata bunch of ameteurs you people are~ if a woman brings up the subject of sex that soon after meeting you`re going to be getting some if you are clued up at all.

and the fact that she uses her toys instead of screwing every guy in town when she feels the itch is an added bonus.

the fat question is standard for meeting someone online, she was checking to see if she looked like her pics and if you approved of her physique.

i`d have been on that and sleeping soundly before 7:00pm so we could get up early and have a nice breakfast.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Do I owe an explanation?
Posted: 11/9/2009 12:09:40 PM
i gleaned the following from another post-


If you tend to dismiss partners when you find something “wrong” with them, you may have a history of letting pickiness overshadow possibilities. “Creating a great relationship is less about finding the right person and more about letting someone be the right person,”
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 61 (view)
 
Your two cents worth......
Posted: 11/9/2009 12:00:06 PM
the quote in its entirety-

"I`m selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control, and at times hard to handle, but if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. - Marilyn Monroe"
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
COWARD ! - The Ignoring Game
Posted: 10/29/2009 5:27:21 PM
was there a fight, did you piss him off, have you been treating him like shit?

sometimes the writing is on the wall sis and you just need to get a clue.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Is sex what he wants?
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:07:39 PM
if you like the guy and both of you have been having a good time together then keep seeing him, having sex is a completely natural progression and its only natural for a guy who likes you to want to take it to the sexual level.

you know you can always say you`re not ready if you dont want to do it.

but dont treat a guy like he`s a dog or a dirty person if he wants to get in bed with you it doesnt mean thats all he wants.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What does Undecided/Open mean regarding Wants Kids
Posted: 10/27/2009 3:07:07 PM
it means I dont want women who have children to misunderstand and think that I wont date single mothers and at the same time I dont want to say YES and make anyone think that I`m only open to those who also want children and the only choices this site gives are yes, no, or prefer not to say.


When men state on their profile "Probably Not"


That choice isnt available here.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Astounded by the amt of perverts on here...
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:54:56 PM

Men love to show off their penees.


not
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Astounded by the amt of perverts on here...
Posted: 10/27/2009 2:27:12 PM
Yes Tuff I know this to be the case ~every woman I`ve met from here told me she had alot of problems with the same things you have and to tell you the truth I dont understand the urge to harrass women in that way.
Very sorry to see you`re getting that same treatment too :(
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
after letting a guy down
Posted: 10/26/2009 2:55:47 PM

I chose to relieve my pressures with booze.


Have your doctor prescribe you some naltrexone.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Are you better at finding or being found?
Posted: 10/26/2009 2:19:29 PM
back when I was active on here I didnt bother sending out any first contact messages, I was being found often enough to keep me busy.
guess that makes me a pretty boy.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Still devasted over being seriously misled by my 1st GF in almost 3.5 years....
Posted: 10/23/2009 4:25:02 PM
This almost appears to be the female equivalent of a man wanting sex within a certain period of time.
Male standpoint example: "I expect sex by the 3rd date or shes out."
Female standpoint and likewise: I expect a sincere "I love you ".........................or a "ring on my finger by 2.5 months"....... or other commitment by a certain time or he`s out.

Both are light control tools used to satisfy needs, wants, desires..... nothing harmful about any of them really, just a way of announcing boundaries, limits, etc

But in her case it looks like she was a bit like: "play it how I feel, as I feel it and at the speed that I feel it and if you cant keep up, you`re out....." while at the same time she kept you at bay by instructing you not to say "it" unless you REALLY felt it, while she allowed herself to tell you that she "hearted you" at will on her part......she didnt give you much room to manuever and flow freely within this coupling.........
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 480 (view)
 
Decent guys: are they all either taken or gay?
Posted: 10/23/2009 2:57:21 PM
^^^^^^^whew!!!^^^^^^

......glad I picked "yourstillhere" as a profile name instead of.......


:)
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 65 (view)
 
Is he stringing me along or is this goodbye? Or am I the ONE.
Posted: 10/23/2009 2:48:19 PM
I`ll endorse MSG #40 and back it up with next years salary.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
What ALL Men Want...
Posted: 7/15/2009 7:33:50 PM

some guys never know they've got a good thing until it's gone...


Sometimes we need to have something good then screw it up and lose all possibility of ever getting it back again before we realize what we had.
And that makes us *really* want it.

Its the classic story in every romatic comedy out there- boy meets girl, boy chases and finally gets girl, boy loses girl, then the rest of the show is about boy trying to win girl back.

There is a reason that movies with this storyline are very successful even though it has been told over and over again, countless times.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Same two questions!
Posted: 7/15/2009 7:02:02 PM
They ask because they like you and they wonder what are the chances that you`d consider dating them.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Rude people
Posted: 7/15/2009 6:41:42 PM
Those messages would be like foreplay to me, but I like occasional sarcasm.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Like this Man but not the Jokes he makes
Posted: 7/13/2009 7:24:58 PM
"Ma! They said I`m a narciss-something. What does that mean?"

(soft voice from another room folding laundry)-
"....thats nice, dear...."

(hiking up my pants)
Yup, you betcha I`m a true narcissist.
And dont you forget it!
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Like this Man but not the Jokes he makes
Posted: 7/13/2009 7:13:39 PM

hmm if flirting to you is telling a woman how unattractive she is then we certainly would NOT be a match!


I thought we just broke up.
Stop calling me.......
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Like this Man but not the Jokes he makes
Posted: 7/13/2009 6:45:10 PM

Curious... why would you have said that to me??


If you called me up with the sole purpose of confronting me on a comment I made in jest then you and I are not a match.
Our methods of flirting arent on the same wavelength and all we`d do is make each other unhappy.
Best to just end it.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Like this Man but not the Jokes he makes
Posted: 7/13/2009 6:23:14 PM
I called him back and told him what he said rubbed me the wrong way, and that Im telling him because I like him . I said I took offense to that comment .


I`d have told you that it looks like we arent good a match then.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 1 (view)
 
ever notice that different losses can hurt in the same way? (longish)
Posted: 7/10/2009 3:36:45 PM
In less than two hours time today I watched in disbelief, nervous anxiety, deep sorrow, and absolute horror as forty plus people whom I`d built relationships with over the years walked out the doors of our building and said goodbye for the last time, ever.

I went into work this morning just as I`ve done for the past twenty plus years and found out that all of us will be losing our jobs, with the majority of my fellow employees being eliminated effective immediately.

We knew times were tough and that something like a temporary shutdown might take place, and there were the usual rumors, but none of us really saw this coming.
Nor wanted to admit it.

Our company has weathered tougher times than this and came through it just fine but there are other factors out of our control, involving losses at other divisions, fights with the banks (thanks alot "lender stimulus") and such.

Most of us had hoped and planned to work there the rest of our lives and retire peacefully just like so many others before us, so needless to say this is devastating.

In one fell swoop, the people that I go to and share in each others lives with are gone.
Sure we can stay in touch, but the reality is we are all people who only talked to each other at work and we never dreamed that we`d lose one another like this. It will never be the same.
We are all going to miss each other terribly.

I`ve had little time to even begin thinking about all the obvious financial implications and other impacts this will have on my own personal life, all the decisions that I need to make and phone calls etc - all I can think about is what I experienced today and how much it hurts.

We were just getting the place the way we all liked it too, management and employees were all getting along very good and we had a good family atmosphere.
People smiled alot more these last few years and looked forward to coming to work everyday.
It is (or was) a high paid job and most of us wont be able to replace that lost income.

All I know is I really loved my job and the people I worked with, especially the people.
I didnt want to lose that. I didnt want to be forced to start all over again.

This has to be the saddest day in my life and I am torn in two :(

Somewheres in the midst of it all, I noticed that this feeling of sorrow and loss is very familiar to me, even though I`ve never lost forty relationships, nor a long term job before.

Its just that it feels very suspiciously the same in other ways as when I`ve lost long term love relationships. There are alot of the same steps involved: first theres the shock and disbelief that this cannot be happening.

Then theres the "what?" no way that this is how its going to be, come on!!! we`ve been through tougher times and made it through, we were just getting things the way we liked, I didnt know there were outside factors beyond our control, we planned and hoped to be together a long time.

Then theres the realizing we`d miss each other and have a hard time replacing that empty space, this happened so fast... and sure, we can be friends and stay in touch, but it`ll never be the same, etc...

Ever notice that losses have that same deep feeling of pain?

(yourstillhere still torn in two)
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Has this happened to anyone before?
Posted: 7/10/2009 2:46:58 PM
She became extremely abusive both verbally and physically. she loved to scream and argue.


They like to test you.
See if you`ll stand up for yourself and put them in their place and make them back down.
They get off on it. They need it from you.
Some are more extreme than others but they ALL do it, every last one of them.
Even the loverly givers.

The more extreme she is the more dominant a man she needs you to be.
You have the look of a somewhat dominant man. For your age, anyhow.
You`re tall (6`0") she was quite sure you were powerful and dominant but when you wouldnt prove it she dug deeper (went crazy on you) to try and get you to make her back down.
But you didnt.
You were both just unevenly matched and not each others type.
She`ll end up with an abuser.
Do not be fooled, into thinking this is no good for her; deep down inside she`ll feel right at home.
Not that he`s going to stuff her head into the ground anyways. She`ll provoke him, he`ll stomp her feelings and self esteem.
Then they`ll screw like rabbits.
Been there, done that.
You are very insightful for your age. You know who you are and where you belong.
Good on you!
Go and find yourself a giver my friend. You already know this is your destiny.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Why do men have nipples?
Posted: 7/9/2009 7:20:46 PM
All I know is I do NOT like mine bitten.
(but I did recently discover that I do like my chest area bitten)
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
why does a guy stop calling?
Posted: 7/9/2009 7:15:55 PM
He must`ve simply lost interest in the chase since it was leading one way then went the next.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Friend = Whammy?
Posted: 7/9/2009 7:03:41 PM
They do it incase it does fall apart they get to say "I told you so" or "see, I knew it" thus raising their power level.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Pushed away again
Posted: 7/9/2009 6:25:59 PM

I guess men in general are just are too blind to see and appreciate women who are awesome like me, women who are genuinely nice with good personalities.


Somehow I get the feeling that in your past you`ve had men who felt the same way about you.
I bet they wondered why she always goes for the men who treat her like garbage.


You'd think men would be able to appreciate a good thing while they have it but such is rarely the case.


Sometimes we need to have something good then screw it up and lose all possibility of ever getting it back again before we realize what we had.
And that makes us *really* want it.

Its the classic story in every romatic comedy out there- boy meets girl, boy chases and finally gets girl, boy loses girl, then the rest of the show is about boy trying to win girl back.

There is a reason that movies with this story are very successfull even though it has been told over and over again, countless times.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Renewing Yourself on POF
Posted: 7/1/2009 3:39:06 PM
I`ve noticed but I dont get distracted by them I just stick to my goal of finding someone and let my auto sniffer do the rest.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Whats with the harems?
Posted: 6/30/2009 2:59:58 PM
Somewheres within the 6 points of message #45 is an explanation to just about any imaginable scenario, using one or any combination of them.

Your knowledge of the force is legendary, young padawan :)
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
looking for mr right
Posted: 6/29/2009 6:54:06 PM
It is only when you stop looking for mr right (or miss right) and choose the lifestyle that accompanies the building, growing, maintaining and living within a commited relationship FIRST- that you will find what it is that you are looking for.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Need a little help here....
Posted: 6/28/2009 7:47:28 PM

I know everyone is different and I should give him the benefit of the doubt.


As soon as you start giving people the benefit of anything, you open yourself up to getting used.
Something to keep in mind.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Would you risk current relationship to date ex?
Posted: 6/28/2009 7:38:57 PM
I would not risk a current relationship to be with an ex unless I had little or no value for the relationship plus my ex had some sort of control over me.

In the given scenario it looks like mr andrew values drama and deeply woven webs.
He found after spending some time with you that what he`d get is a stable and supportive atmosphere but he apparently doesnt like it that way, he`s hung up on the ex and in denial about it, or all three.

This is why I shy away from people who talk alot of their exes. Its like they`re giving you a hint "I`ll hang out with you for now but the first shot I get with the ex, I`m gone."

You offered him a relationship.
He tossed you an I love you then took it back, saying you were just friends.
(even though you met on a dating site) He then announced he`d be taking an ex whom wants his body to a concert that you wanted to go to.

I would be hurt :(
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
ps the (which would you prefer) thread
Posted: 6/26/2009 7:14:05 PM

could lack of any relationship (bar 1 good one which lasted a year) compare to being hurt by a bad relationship.


No
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
I have just broken up with my first love and I was wondering...
Posted: 6/11/2009 1:33:07 PM
Yes they get much better and by the time you`re 25 you`ll forget all about this one and if you do ever happen to think of her it wont be any big deal at all in fact you might be embarrassed that you ever put so much stock in this TRUST me dude I know.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
What would this mean to you??
Posted: 6/9/2009 6:45:03 PM

So with that in mind he is heading off this weekend for a family get together. I have not been invited, which has me a little miffed.


Sometimes us guys really do like you but we can be a bit dumb about whats important to you.
A family get together may seem like a small deal to us when its not so small to you.

Another way of putting it- if I go into the kitchen to get myself a sandwich or something and I dont even bother to ask you if you`d like one, it doesnt mean I`m just not that into you or dont care about you.
It just means I`m an ape sometimes.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Do any men know the difference between being in control and being controlling?
Posted: 6/9/2009 6:35:36 PM

The answer to world peace ladies is to keep all the men in this world happy. If we are keeping them happy then we really are in COMPLETE CONTROL! Think about it!


Well thought out, brilliant and diabolical all rolled up into one.
Makes me think of that scene from Seinfeld when Newman, sitting in a darkened corner takes a slow drag off a cigarette and says "......excellent......excellent....."
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 10 (view)
 
What do men want
Posted: 6/7/2009 5:58:01 PM
We want to see a smiling face.
Your profile doesnt have one of those in it.
 yourstillhere
Joined: 7/30/2008
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Take off the mask
Posted: 6/7/2009 5:18:27 PM

Imagine my surprise when I found exactly what I’m talking about on the profile of the person who has crudely dismissed my thoughts as BS and poppy-cock.


Know why they`re doing it?

I do :)
 
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