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Thread: This is just a FLIT GAME
NOLA chick
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This is just a FLIT GAME
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8/2/2009 10:45:04 PM
we do live in the area of Texting
Hmmm.... I'm sensing you really meant to say, "era" of texting, not "area."
its not like we are applying for jobs, or writting books here.. its a form of social interaction.
But, you are applying for acceptance from people who will judge not just how good you look in a t-shirt and jeans, but on how you present yourself, your intelligence and your respect for them. If you are lazy, apathetic, immature and only want one thing (which doesn't require any kind of eloquent communication,) then you will not be well received by anything other than lazy, apathetic, immature people who only want one thing (and it might not be the same thing you want and you'll never know because neither of you can communicate properly.)
"Hello.. nice to meet you.. my name is Alex, nice wheather we are having" that so last century....
::::giggles:::: "Last Century" was barely a decade away. And, no, good manners and proper greetings are not past their prime. It's just that ignorant children have taken over the airwaves and promoted their moronic monkey act for the amusement of each other and have pretty much everyone else rolling their eyes.
you say " Hey.. Whats up?" or somthing like that..
Ah.... one of the great, unsung successful pick-up lines..... What's next? Do you say, "So, you wanna get wit me or what?" That'll work. Really. Trust me. Just make sure you do it in a gay bar, sugar. You'll get plenty of action. (Disclaimer: this was not meant in any way to insult gay people......)
getting on someone for how they write a social email shows that your are high maitenence, and frankly kinda ****y.. its a turn off..
LOL! Oh, lawdy, lawdy, little boy! Expecting someone who is looking to get laid to put forth a little effort to present himself well is "high maintenance?" Boy, are you looking at a future full of shock and disillusionment!
Let me ask you this.... When you go out to pick up chicks with your oh so successful and original opening line, do you go out wearing crap you picked up off the floor and passed the sniff test? Or do you take a shower, put on something fairly decent and, maybe, brush your teeth? Same thing. Women are far more auditory than visual. If you can't present the spoken word well, then it's about as attractive as a cute girl in a polyester mu-mu and plastic sandals.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/12/2009 10:32:16 AM
Wow, you tap dance better than Fred Astaire.
Isn't it interesting that when you change your profile name (and get in trouble with the moderators,) it becomes darn near impossible to track your history of previous posts because they aren't listed under your new name and many of them (including an entire thread) have been removed for offensive content. Hiding from and lying about your past postings doesn't change anything.
Now, what was it you were saying about "straight-forward discussion?" Hypocrisy, thy name is Wes!
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/11/2009 10:44:13 PM
So why haven't you jumped in when someone like the beaver assaulted "fat" women?
Dude, you were the one who created an entire thread devoted to putting women down for being overweight and using the justification that it was because they were going against God's plan by not being hot and submissive for you.
Now, you're gonna keep throwing the spotlight on Da Beav in order to make yourself look more palatable in your latest incarnation?? Please. He's practically a kid, with no real life experience with actual "women" (high school and college girls barely count) and he's just voicing (badly) a personal preference, so it's easy to dismiss his chest thumping because he hasn't learned any better yet.
You go out of your way to start a whole thread to accuse women of going against the Will of God by being fat, for no other reason than that He created Eve "with a shapely figure to get Adam's juices going." You're more than twice that kid's age and you still don't have any more sense than that. Sheesh.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/11/2009 10:27:55 PM
in reply to your remark about hate speech, gender orientation and religion and ethnicity are specifically protected regarding non- discrimination.......Therefore we have these specifically proactive federal laws.
In hiring practices, membership to organizations that receive public funds, etc. Not on the op/ed page.
If Wes said he wasn't going to hire someone who is gay because gay people don't contribute anything worthwhile, then he would be breaking a law. If he advocated violence or oppression, then he would be breaking the law. But, he didn't do either of those things (well, not to gay people, but he certainly openly advocates oppression of women.) There is no law that says an idiot can't say stupid stuff if it's only in the context of opinion.
And any personally directed attack, which this is just one example, is equally prohibited by the same token that we all deserve protection from local tyrants that write their own rules.
Prohibited by whom and protected by whom? The moderators of this board, or federal courts? Yeah, it's a TOS violation, but there is no actual "law" being broken.
I understand any unwelcome contact regardless of genders involved can be adressed under sexual harassment laws..
On this board??? It's a dating site. Unless someone turns into a stalker, an identity thief, con artist or sex offender specifically banned from this kind of interaction, then there are no "sexual harassment laws" governing forums on a website.
even unwelcome joking around designed to mock or belittle..Sure its a broad definition, and I for one am all for protections. Again, I think the guidelines are there to release liability on the part of the website so they can say, we prohibit that..whether they do or not.
Eh, probably. It's a good faith effort to let people know they're expected to play nice and that, if they don't, you can't sue the creators of the board because anyone can come and go with free will and it's not like you HAVE TO subject yourself to anything you don't like.
As for "protections," I'm of two minds. First, is that we're all adults here and we are responsible for looking after our own selves. This means taking responsibility, not only for what we say, but for whether or not we participate in something that we don't like. No one makes anyone come here. No one forces anyone else to read anything. We CHOOSE to participate and read. Being insulted, disgusted and morally offended does not give anyone the right to censor anyone else.
However, there are obvious issues which must require "protections," i.e. violence, threats, fraud, stalking, etc. These are things which take away another's choice and should not be tolerated.
Hate is wrong, sure, but some hate is also illegal
Hate is immoral, not illegal. It's the actions motivated by hate that are illegal. I hate ignorant, Bible-banging, misogynist, attention-whores who get off on tearing other people down in order to build themselves up, but that's not illegal. Now, if I suggested beating the crap out of such a one with a baseball bat, then THAT would be illegal.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/10/2009 11:53:45 PM
That's really a very broad definition of hate speech. I mean, seriously, people dis fat chicks way harder than than on a regular basis and no one even blinks.
Now, if he's advocating violence, then that's a whole other thing. At this point, he's just whining and proselytizing and making a jackasss of himself.
If you really feel the need to report something, just go to the forums main page, scroll all the way to the bottom and look for the "Suggestions/Help" etc. forum and click on that. Then you will see, in bright red letters the TOS Violation Report thread.
To do quotes, you have to put the word "quote" (without the quotation marks) inside of brackets before the stuff being quoted. Then, at the end, put "/quote" inside of brackets. It'll look like this, but without the spaces between letters.....
[ q u o t e ] blah, blah, yada, yada, stuff being quoted [ / q u o t e ]
NOLA chick
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Did I read you right?
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5/10/2009 9:47:21 PM
^^^^^
Agree 100%. I always feel really uncomfortable when people say things that are intentionally vague like that. Is it because they're just messing with me, or they think I'm here as an ornament to make their day brighter, or is it that they have a low self-esteem and don't want to come right out and say what's really on their mind for fear I'll not like them.
Grrr..... just speak to me like a person, not an attribute.
Seriously, would guys feel comfortable just walking up to a complete stranger in person and saying, "Hey, keep smiling for me!" Really?? No, you'd find something you could converse about and then approach them.
I'm beginning to think that the online drive-by hello is a way of smiling across a crowded room at someone. The trouble is, if you never try to engage us in conversation, we don't know if you're shy or just plain creepy.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/10/2009 5:46:00 PM
We don't all have to be so weak to let wholesome values be overrun by their (gays) sick lifestyles and agendas.] Wildoutdoorguy
Im reporting this comment to the moderators for censorship, because it shouldnt be tolerated.
It's a little late for that. 75% of everything he posts on this forum violates the TOS in one way or another and it's been going on for MONTHS. I believe in equal opportunity. If the women of the world (including his ex wife, her mom, his sisters, and basically any other woman with a brain and spine) feminists, liberals, different races, non-Bible-thumpers, smokers, tall women, fat people, idealogues, environmental/social/political/religious/human rights activists, et al have all endured Wes' verbal flatulence, then gay people shouldn't be excluded. We welcome them! Yay! They're in very good company and we love them!
I don't believe in censorship, no matter where on the socio-political spectrum you are. But, I do believe in giving equal measure and being very vocal about what it is exactly we disagree with and what, exactly, we think of the people who spew such nonsense.
Most people in the Oregon forum really can't be bothered giving him too much validation, so we just make fun of him and carry on. Why do you think he never ventures beyond this little room? He'd be eaten alive on the other forums and then banned for life.
Besides, it's a badge of honor to be hated by one such as he.
NOLA chick
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Did I read you right?
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5/10/2009 5:26:40 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this....in order to garner your preference I need to be confident, but not conceited. Have an abundance of self esteem, but not****. Strong, but not overbearing. Manly, but sensitive.
You're making it harder than you have to. It's actually not all that hard to be a confident person who likes his/her self just as they are, and to speak to other people as if they are equally likable without stressing out about whether or not you'll fit someone else's expectations.
Stop worrying so much. It's not necessary to have everyone like and accept you if you like and accept yourself. People worth knowing will like you because you like yourself, not because you conform to their agenda.
As to which woman's response I'd prefer. To be honest, I'd be over joyed (but not egotistical) if any woman wrote me out of the blue.
Honestly, this might hurt a woman's feelings. I know you mean that you'd find it easier, and more enjoyable, if meeting new people weren't so uncomfortable and that it would be nice to have a woman make the first move for a change, but think about how a potential date might read that.
She reads that you really aren't particularly interested in her as a person, just as long as she's a live body paying attention to you. See what I mean?
The key is balance. Don't put all your hopes into each contact, but don't just do random drive-by hellos to put the ball in their court and then hide out and wait for them to take the lead for fear of rejection. Talk to people like you enjoy talking to them. Dating sites put too much pressure on people to "make the match." Let that go. Just enjoy getting to know folks. The match will make itself.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/10/2009 2:31:43 PM
Awww, you're just miffed because Clay Aiken came out.
NOLA chick
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Did I read you right?
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5/10/2009 8:21:11 AM
I suspect that you're using the word "pensive" to mean "thoughtful," not "wistful" or "sad" and, in that case, it's nice to know people want to be thoughtful. But, how is e-mailing a person to wish them luck being thoughtful? If a person doesn't know anything about you, they might think you're being sarcastic (especially when your profile lists "sarcasm" as an interest) and insulting them by saying, "Hey, when I read your profile, I thought I'd wish you luck because you look like you need it." Or, that you see internet dating as some sort of gamble, requiring luck rather than communication. See what I'm saying?
When I said I prefer a person with too much ego, rather than not enough, I was referring to a strong sense of self and self-esteem, not "egotism." There's a big difference. There are plenty of egotistical people out there with low self-esteem and a weak sense of self and they use conceit to cover it up. That's definitely not what I'm looking for. Just the opposite.
Let's put it this way.... Would you be more likely to respond positively to a woman who e-mailed you and said, "Hey, I just ran across your profile and thought I'd say hi and good luck," or one that says, "Hi, I just saw your profile and I really liked the part where you talked about going back to school. I always wanted to return but could never figure out how to fit it into my schedule. I think it's awesome that you're doing that!"
Who would you be more likely to want to continue communicating with?
NOLA chick
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Swine Flu Outbreak-- An Epidemic????
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5/10/2009 12:29:20 AM
It's funny how the topic of swine flu has disappeared from news in the past week. Panics such as this only make me scratch my head in amazement. I wonder how many people worldwide have died in the past week from lack of clean water, war, murder, starvation, abuse and lack of any health care?
Thank you! More people die of the regular, garden variety flu - plus things such as severe cold or hot weather in America every year- than this "pandemic." Heck, more people die from smoking cigarettes or eating McDonald's. Sheesh.
I truly hate mainstream media.
NOLA chick
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Age range you are looking for. What's that say about you?
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5/10/2009 12:21:06 AM
I just really like it that you hang out with 40-something year old people who still say, "Ewwwww!"
NOLA chick
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Did I read you right?
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5/10/2009 12:16:58 AM
Thinking back, I have used the term "good luck" in e-mails I have sent. I guess the term is kind of like literary armor against rejection.
I understand that a lot of people do this to show interest without seeming overly eager but, honestly, I absolutely hate it when someone sends me an e-mail that says "good luck." To me, it says two things. 1) That they didn't take any time to read my profile and can't think of anything worthy of discussing that will be mutually interesting, and 2) That they have become jaded with online dating and are having a rough time of it so they are telling me they think their message is automatically going to get shot down so they're wishing me well in future endeavors WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
Basically, it's an automatic dismissal, somewhat like saying, "Uh, I know you probably won't really like me or care what I have to say, but I thought I'd just blurt out something to get your attention, just in case, before you reject me and go onto someone else." It's difficult to know how to respond to a person in a positive way when they are promoting themselves in an insecure and not-sure-they're-worthy light. People (well, me, anyway,) respond better to people who have just a wee bit too much ego, than not enough.
NOLA chick
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Meds - for bipolar and depression
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5/8/2009 12:29:42 PM
Agreed. Osteopaths and Naturopaths (N.D.s) are both medical doctors, with the same training as an M.D. but with additional training that addresses alternative and complementary forms of healing.
They'll integrate your usual M.D. treatments with nutrition, lifestyle changes, acupuncture, massage therapy, chiropractic, meditation, ayurveda, Traditional Chinese Medicine, etc., etc. Because of the demand, and many insurance companies are now covering it, many M.D. clinics have an M.D. and an N.D. or D.O. working together.
I like Naturopaths better because they spend a whole lot more time with you and treat the whole person, not just the symptom and will refer you to specialists, either CAM or allopathic (traditional western medicine.)
NOLA chick
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5/8/2009 12:44:57 AM
Ah, gotcha. OK. Cool.
NOLA chick
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bbw are very pretty, take a nouther look!!
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5/5/2009 1:03:24 AM
If someone has a legitimate medical condition that makes them obese, I suppose its more of a disability then a lifestyle choice. Let's not kid ourselves though, statistically speaking those people are the minority.
Absolutely. Sadly, though, too many people end up with an obesity related disability (i.e. diabetes, heart disease, etc.) because of what they have consumed. I, like you, believe that people choose what to put in their mouths. However, their reason for their choice is not "Oh, I can't wait to be fat and miserable so I can have a pity party and act all sanctimonious!"
People base their decisions on information, right? Well, where are they getting this info? TV, radio, print. Nice, big, flashy ads touting the healthiness or helpfulness of this or that.
Here's an example: Low fat. Do you know what that really means? It means HIGH SUGAR. Yeah, it's low fat, but it's overloaded with refined sugar which hits the bloodstream in a rush, causing insulin to be released to counteract it which then causes the metabolism to CRASH. You've got people trying to do the right thing, but they are being sabotaged by marketing.
Junk food is CHEAP. It's fast, easy and readily available. Half (or more) of the stuff in groceries is nutritionally void foodlike substances, without any real merit. People buy "enriched whole wheat" because it sounds like it's healthy, right? Wrong. It's been stripped down and refined and then had a bunch of crap added back in along with some high fructose corn syrup, and marketed with a big bold label declaring it "Heart Healthy." WTF??
Its not cruel to encourage someone to get fit, and its not unreasonable to want your mate to be healthy!
"Encouraging" someone to get fit is one thing. Bashing someone, calling them disgusting, lazy, etc. is destructive. Many people eat as a coping mechanism for stress and low self-esteem. Attacking the foundation of their self-esteem by causing them more stress is not "encouragement." It's just a way of assuaging your own poor self esteem by acting all superior to other people with some serious challenges to overcome.
Trust me, there are times when I would love to just go over to someone in a restaurant and slap the fork out of their hand because it's like watching them commit suicide in slow motion. But, that won't help. Neither will all the feel good, warm fuzzy enabling crap. Education and activism for healthier food production and consumption, as well as active lifestyle, will.
I don't think you're a villain. I just think you're young and you haven't learned any tact, yet. It's OK to feel the way you feel. Just consider that the people you are "encouraging" have feelings too.
NOLA chick
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bbw are very pretty, take a nouther look!!
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5/5/2009 12:34:02 AM
I dont care if I misspell or misuse words on the internet. I am too busy doing real life things to spell and grammar check.
Code for: "I am careless and ignorant, but it doesn't matter because I'm 2 cool 4 u."
You should prob learn the difference between a Ph.D and an M.D. if your going to make snide remarks. Otherwise you might look dumb.
I do know the difference. Do you know that a Ph.D is also referred to as "doctor?" You ASSumed that I meant "physician." You were wrong.
I have forgotten more relevant health based information then you have learned in your life.
Code for: "I am insecure and must lash out like a petulant child when faced with someone who is not easily intimidated nor impressed by my pecs."
Oh, BTW, where do you get all that "relevant health based information" if you don't read any books?
I stand by my notion that obesity is a choice, both directly and indirectly.
Oh, boy oh boy! What a great sentence! Do you mean that you stand by your "notion" directly and indirectly, or that the choice of the obese person is direct and indirect?
Another BTW: "Notion" is defined in a DICTIONARY (you know, one of those "books" people keep using to make themselves look smart) as....
1. a general understanding; vague or imperfect conception or idea of something
2. an opinion, view, or belief
3. conception or idea
4. a fanciful or foolish idea
Hmmmm.... upon reflection, "notion" as you have used it is correct, in your case.
You placed the blame on everything but the individual.
Wrong again, Sparky. Go back and read it again. I said, "not entirely." That means, in part, that I agree obesity is a result of choices, but that I disagree with your contention that it is the sole cause.
Its simple science (calories in)<(calories out) results in a net weight loss. PERIOD.
You spent all that money earning a Masters Degree to become a "Health Analyst" (whatever that means) and that's all you can come up with?? Is it just you, or has the educational integrity of OSU suddenly plummeted into the abyss?
I could break down your entire joke of a post one-by-one, buts its simple a waste of my time.
Code for: "I would have to go look stuff up and try to make a logical argument on an adult level but I am too intellectually lazy so I'll just resort to typing cool sounding juvenile retorts."
Why did I even write this post. I didnt actually expect something brilliant out of the mouth of a BARTENDER.
That's because the only time you've ever had a conversation with a "bartender" is when you were puking drunk and shouting "Wooooooo!" over and over, thinking it made you look cool and all grown up in front of some girls you thought would be impressed with your display.
It didn't work there, and it doesn't work here, either.
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5/4/2009 6:02:16 PM
The bottom line is that people are obese because they CHOSE to be obese.
Eh, not entirely true. If you are going to be a doctor, you really need to do three things.
a) Learn the difference between "there" and "their."
b) Learn how to spell "ridiculous."
c) Learn a wee bit more about food in American culture (and a little empathy and compassion wouldn't hurt, either - especially since you're supposedly a buddhist.)
People are obese because highly processed, nutritionally void, convenience foods are extremely inexpensive and plentiful. They are also hyper-marketed with deliberately misleading information to make people think they're being healthy, i.e. "100% fruit juice!" "low fat!" and "whole wheat." Over worked, over stressed parents are teaching their children the bad habits their parents taught them, without realizing what actual damage they are doing. The ignorance is staggering and it's because people get their information mainly from advertising.
Preservatives, artificial colors/flavors, trans fats, high fructose corn syrup, as well as a host of other chemicals and additives all wreak havoc on, not only people's metabolism, but also their brain chemistry, making people depressed (and prone to over eating,) thinking they are still hungry when they're full (artificial sweeteners do this - they block the receptors in the brain which tell you to stop eating,) and causing vitamin/mineral deficiencies leading to a whole bunch of other problems.
Before you judge too harshly, just remember that illness, injuries and medications can cause some serious weight gain too. Just wait till you tear up a knee or shoulder playing sports and you get put on steroids and a month later you're literally 25 pounds heavier. The world is filled with 40-something year old men with 40-something extra pounds (mostly belly) over their once muscular forms, who still will go on dating sites and list their body type as "athletic" simply because they used to be a jock, back in the day.
Enjoy your health while you have it, but don't make the mistake of thinking that you can control everything.
I would recommend reading "In Defense Of Food" by Michael Pollan, to everyone. His other book "The Omnivore's Dilemma" is also quite enlightening. You may be surprised to learn just how the industrial/commercial food industry is literally killing off its own customers and creating a health care crisis, in the name of profit.
NOLA chick
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Meds - for bipolar and depression
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5/1/2009 2:19:57 PM
the pill poppers vs. the handle it naturally ones........ All a bunch of chemicals. Yuk. Just not for me. Just be careful all of you that take all this stuff.
You obviously have never known anyone who is seriously mentally ill. And when diet and exercise alone don't work maybe we should go back to before pill poppers and try blood letting or exorcism.............
Oh, come on now. I know it's frustrating to be faced with comments that don't take into account your personal perspective, but comparing Complimentary and Alternative Medicine and Integrative Medicine with blood letting and exorcism is just as ignorant as the comment you are taking offense to.
There are millions of people who treat mental illness, successfully, with limited - or in some cases, no - allopathic/pharmaceutical intervention. As a matter of fact, many of them do so because pharma was not working and caused a great deal of suffering for them.
Why do you think CAM and Integrative Medicine is becoming so popular these days? It's not because people are superstitious or delusional. It's because 1) it works and 2) allopathic medicine alone did not help or, often, made things worse. This is the case for me and 3 other members of my immediate family. One is still hopping from pill to pill waiting for the magic combination - and making no lifestyle changes - while suffering tremendously and, frankly, making life miserable for the rest of us. The others of us are broadening our perspectives and options to a very high degree of success.
There is no magic path to success that works for everyone across the board. The only expert any of us should be listening to is ourselves, but that means we have to do some serious personal work which far too many are too lazy (or exhausted) to do. When you find what works for you, then stick with it and don't apologize. But, if something isn't quite right, don't let some "expert" tell you not to challenge it.
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5/1/2009 2:08:05 PM
things but I also know a lot of people are not diciplined well enough to try other healthy natural alternatives. People will always disagree...the pill poppers vs. the handle it naturally ones. That is just how it goes. I still swear
And when your opinion kills someone, what then?
Probably the same thing that happens when the opinions of doctors and the pharmaceutical industry kill people, except not in such a high volume or to such a detrimental extent.
People need to take responsibility for their own stuff. Don't blindly trust some study or doctor or all those fancy ads or the snake oil salesmen or the alarmists on either side of the fence. Get to know your own body and how it reacts to what it's exposed to.
If you do take meds, please, please, please do so in an informed manner, not just because you blindly trust your doctor to know you better than you know yourself. If you think that the risk of permanently damaging your liver/kidneys/thyroid, etc. is acceptable considering your alternative, then that's what you must choose, with full knowledge that not doing so is worse. But, you can't blame people for choosing to take risks in the other direction. Whatever treatment you choose, for whatever reason, make sure you understand what may happen and what you may have to deal with as a result.
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I exercise daily, I eat what is called the "jesus diet", all organic, nothing refined or processed, I supplement with the fish oils, calcium, etc. I meditate, I faithfully go to therapy, all thing that are (or should be) part of any arsenal against mental illness..... Still I am on Lithium, Lamictal, Topamax, Wellbutrin, AND Klonopin.
You're right, for Bipolar Disorder I, it is very common and necessary to take prescribed medications (although I totally disagree with the kinds and amounts many doctors play around and their reasons for doing so,) but with Bipolar II and Cyclothymic disorder, as well as some cases of schizophrenia, many people can get tremendous relief from behavioral/lifestyle/dietary changes which is beneficial to folks who 1) don't have the money for all those meds, 2) have severe negative reactions from them, 3) or are just plain tired of being a lab monkey for Big Pharma.
A huge list of physical and psychological disorders caused by biochemistry gone buggo (from diabetes to hormone disorders, ADHD to depression and anxiety) are all tremendously effected by what we put into our bodies, the types of mental, physical, emotional and environmental stresses we endure and our relationships with other people. These things play a pivotal role in how much we suffer or how much we heal.
Yes, sometimes meds are necessary and they make life better. But, for many, many people, they are often superfluous and do more harm than good. Everyone should start with lifestyle changes and then work their way up to meds as a last resort, not as the first (and often only) stop.
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4/25/2009 11:25:25 AM
I'm not a napper. If I go to sleep, I tend to want to stay asleep. Waking me up is BAD!
I do zone out pretty well, though. A good 20 minute meditative, spacing out where I turn off my brain and my body and just veg, works well for me.
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Natural ways to beat depression
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4/25/2009 11:22:12 AM
There's some really terrific advice in this thread. Capricious Jane covered most of what I would've written.
Summarizing what I agree with:
1) Stop eating crap (processed, fried, refined foods; sugars, etc.)
2) Eat whole, minimally processed, low GI, anti-inflammatory foods.
3) Get off yer butt. Endorphins are your friend. Get your blood flowing.
4) Get some sunshine!
5) Supplementation such as Omega 3 fish oil, probiotics, enzymes, B vitamins, SAM-e, 5-HTP, etc. are beneficial in suprisingly effective ways.
6) Limit your exposure to environmental toxins. Go green, y'all. Seriously. Change your health and beauty aids, household cleaning products and laundry stuff to avoid all that useless and damaging chemical crap which screws up your head as well as your body.
7) Meditate, breathe, focus, chill.
8) Develop healthy and supportive friendships and relationships.
9) Educate yourself to understand what your triggers are and how your lifestyle is contributing to the problem, then CHANGE what's messing you up.
10) Get a massage, a pedicure, reiki or any other pampering thing where you relax while someone gives you positive energy.
All of the above will help with way more than just occasional depression. It can help with a wide range of physical and mental health issues.
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4/24/2009 3:11:31 PM
yikes, the system is double posting again
sorry
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4/24/2009 3:07:43 PM
Good for you! People do things like that because they either think they can get away with it, or they are so completely lacking in empathy - or so self involved - that they have no clue how hurtful they are to others. Lobbing the ball back over the net (and aiming at their head) is a good way to wake some people up. He might think twice now before doing that to someone else.
If anything ever makes you uncomfortable, it's OK to let people know they stepped over the line. It's because people are trying to be nice or trying not to be rude, that they never stand up for themselves and end up giving the message that it's OK for these morons to continue.
Well done.
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4/23/2009 11:48:35 PM
Later, though, I wondered if there wouldn't have been a better way to go about the whole thing.
The only better way would be to write him back critiquing and nitpicking the hell out of his profile.
People like that are just arrogant - and ignorant - pigs who think they have some right to tell you how you must modify yourself to fit THEIR expectations. If they go around approaching total strangers to insult them and try to tell them what to do, can you imagine what it would be like to hang out with, or get into a relationship with, this person? Ick.
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I'm curious why people won't respond to initial emails
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4/23/2009 11:42:53 PM
The reasons why people don't respond are as varied as the people themselves. Speaking from personal experience, I can say this: I will not respond to someone who obviously has not read my profile, uses truly ignorant or childish English (text speak is a good way to get ignored,) is just looking to get laid, or who seems to really, really, really NEED me to respond.
But, I have also read mail and, with the best of intentions, went on to something else and just never got around to responding in a timely manner and felt bad because it seemed like I was slacking off or not caring. Yep, I've dropped the ball a time or two.
When I first joined, I responded to everyone, even if it was to say, "thanks but no thanks." In every single such case, I received multiple responses ranging everywhere from "Oh, but you don't know me, so you have to take the time to get to know me before turning me down because you'll really like me if you give me a chance," to "why are you so shallow and judgmental to blow me off without talking to me?" It gets weird, man. So, I stopped with even the pleasantries.
Also, a woman might already be corresponding with a man and just doesn't feel right about carrying on two conversations at once if one of them looks promising.
If someone is genuinely intelligent and can put together a coherent and well thought out sentence or two, I'll respond, even if it's someone with whom I have nothing in common and will never pursue anything further. That's just me. But, there are women who are so jaded by all the freaks that they just won't even acknowledge anything that isn't 100% perfect according to whatever their expectations happen to be.
Don't take it personally. Online is much different world than in person and people tend to behave in a way they wouldn't normally behave in person.
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The best beds
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4/20/2009 8:26:53 PM
Oooh, thanks for the website. I need to get a buckwheat zafu. Mine is regular stuffing and it's so puffy and stiff that it makes meditating uncomfy so I usually just sit without one. The cats like it, though.
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4/19/2009 11:20:50 PM
Heavenly truths must be spiritually appraised, not possible for the earthly mind. That mind must first acknowledge its inferiority and its need for a supernatural intervention by God's Holy Spirit.
So, when you were telling everyone that God created Eve with a hot body and a submissive demeanor in order to "get Adam's juices going," was that your "earthly mind" talking or did the Holy Spirit lead you to that conclusion?
I have to admit that I really don't know where you are coming from Ryder, because it is so important for you to try to be at peace with those who slam the faith and tenets of faith that you apparently hold to and have expressed here
Well, gee, Wes, I could've sworn that Jesus spoke about loving your enemies and - correct me if I'm wrong - but some of His last words on earth were "Forgive them Father....."
Regardless of your feelings about me and other like me, Jesus disagrees with you. He loves me just the way I am. Your opinion has nothing at all to do with God's grace, forgiveness and love and my personal relationship with Him. What you think, feel or believe has no impact, whatsoever. God isn't interested in your opinion of me. And, neither am I.
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The best beds
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4/19/2009 2:48:37 PM
If y'all google "buckwheat pillows" you'll get a ton of links to sites that sell them. Even Target Online sells them.
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Meds - for bipolar and depression
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4/19/2009 1:34:44 AM
Rather than bombard you with a list of links, I'll give you one which has a nice little overview plus links to various other sites ranging from the National Institutes of Health National Center for Complimentary and Alternative Medicine to sites for different modalities ranging from Ayurveda to Dance Therapy.
Check it out here: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/complementary_alternative_mental_health_treatment.htm
While I understand your reluctance to see a naturopath because of the cost, it's helpful to know that they spend a LOT of time with you and go in depth into your entire lifestyle and health history. I'd much rather spend $150 on someone who spends an hour with me than shell out $75 on some guy who spends maybe 10 minutes with me after his nurse has taken all the pertinent info.
As for them being "big on theory but short on evidence," well, that would depend on what you call "evidence." Too often people think that if the FDA approves it and it's hyper-marketed and very popular, then it must be proven to be great. But, if it's used by 3/4 of the world but the U.S. FDA hasn't cast it's blessing yet, then it must be misunderstood or still experimental. That's all crap. Those major "studies" which prove things are funded by the very people selling the treatment. They're hardly unbiased or conclusive. It's all just marketing.
That being said, though, there has been tons of research into CAM for the treatment of mental health with the effects of Omega-3 (EPA and DHA) on depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, personality disorders and alzheimers being widely accepted even among allopathic physicians. All you have to do is google "fish oil mental health" and you will have a mountain of info
Hope it helps.
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Has anyone made homemade beer, wine or root beer? Does anyone have any good recipes and suggestions
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4/18/2009 3:33:08 PM
Grapes have the highest sugar so you'll end up having to add less sugar if you make a grape wine. But, not all grapes make good wine. Get some vinifera (wine grapes) either fresh, if you live in an area where this is possible or you can get the juice already pressed. Table grapes make some nasty wine, so don't even bother with the concord or thompson seedless.
One very important thing about grape wine is that you MUST break up the cap that floats up and keep it wet. If you allow it to dry out as fermentation progresses, you're going to get all kinds of funky microbial spoilage that ruin what would otherwise be a nice drinking wine. But, you may end up with a really fancy vinegar, so ya never know! LOL!
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Workout program for police/army tests?
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4/18/2009 3:07:42 PM
I agree with the folks suggesting you find out what your specific PD requirements are. It will save you a lot of time and frustration. When you know exactly what you have to do, i.e. how many push-ups, how fast to run a certain distance, etc. then you can research the various other websites and programs other people mentioned to tailor it specifically to your needs.
Be very aware of where your personal challenges lie and do foundational work to strengthen those areas BEFORE you dive in gung-ho. I made this mistake. I didn't take into account that I was 39 years old -with 39 year old knees - and training to do things a bunch of 22 year olds were doing. Turns out simple age related tissue degeneration that would have taken decades to show up under normal conditions, manifested itself in four months. I was at the top of my class in the Academy and then KABLOOOEY! My knee had other ideas. Four weeks before graduation and I was out, permanently.
Had I thought it through before starting all that training, I would've done some prep work to minimize injury and stress. The more you get done before you even apply for admission, the better your chances are for success and enjoying what you do.
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The best beds
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4/18/2009 2:56:04 PM
I like very firm beds, but not hard beds. For years, I slept on a thick Japanese futon on the floor and it was GREAT! Now, I have a Stearns & Foster (yeah, I know, they're pricey, but this was a floor model so I got a good deal.) It's very firm, but has a dense - but not fluffy - pillow top on it. So, I get the firmness with just the right amount of cushy without feeling like a freakin' marshmallow.
Sheets are 800 thread count Egyptian cotton. Once you get spoiled like that, it's impossible to go back to anything less. But, I've heard that the new bamboo sheets are quite yummy and I might try those.....
Pillows: Buckwheat hulls. They're a little noisy and take a few nights to get used to, but they align the neck just right. I take it with me when I travel. Cool in the summer, warm in winter. Can't do fluffy pillows for my head, but I have a nice fluffy body pillow that I love.
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Meds - for bipolar and depression
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4/18/2009 2:43:25 PM
My advice is to consult a Naturopath to treat the whole person, not just the symptom. Most disorders are extremely influenced by diet, stress, environmental toxins, allergies, supplements/meds and lifestyle.
Most ADHD in children can be solved by removing refined sugars/carbs and artificial color and preservatives from the child's diet, testing for food allergies, increasing the amount of DHA omega-3 oil, making sure they get out and run around instead of parking them in front of the TV, and teaching them interpersonal and communication skills to help them cope with frustration constructively rather than simply bouncing around and being aggravating.
All pharmaceuticals have some side effects ranging from mild to deadly, temporary to permanent, and not every disorder responds the same way to each and not every person exhibits or experiences things the same way. The most important thing you can do is to look at what triggers responses in your body and to adjust your life to minimize it. Going to a doctor who is just going to give you the latest drug he/she is receiving kickbacks and special promos on is an irresponsible way to to take care of yourself. Lithium, BTW, is extremely destructive to the thyroid (which I found out the hard way.)
Even moderate to severe cases of bipolar disorder and even schizophrenia have been significantly helped using Complimentary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) involving dietary changes, supplementation of such things such as SAM-e and high EPA fish oil as well as talk therapy, and behavior modification. Ayurveda, acupuncture, yoga, biofeedback, sound therapy, tai chi and qi gong, low GI and anti-inflammatory diets, and strong social support networks all achieve far more than pharma alone. They only require that you work at them, not just sit back and wait for some magic pill to fix you.
As George Carlin once said, we are the most drugged up society in the history of the world. Got a headache? Take a pill. Trouble sleeping? Take a pill. Trouble staying awake? Take a pill. Bad mood? Take a pill. Sniffles? Take a pill. Cramps? Take a pill. Spacing out? Take a pill. Obsessing? Take a pill. Stressed? Take a pill. We're programmed this way through a constant bombardment of advertising so someone can make a profit off our misery.
It's no wonder Americans have such a hard time "just saying NO to drugs."
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Weight loss mantras
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4/18/2009 2:17:53 PM
Something along the lines of "My body is my temple"
Makes me care more about what I put into it. Food or otherwise.
Absolutely! Some stuff out there looks yummy, but when you think about all the nasty crap that goes into making it (and what it will do to your "temple") then it's not too difficult to refrain from eating stuff that isn't good for you.
This type of thinking requires a permanent life change, though. It's not for the casual dieter who just wants to lose weight and then go back to a destructive lifestyle and start the yo-yo effect all over again.
Here are some mantras:
"High Fructose Corn Syrup is of the DEVIL!"
"Artificial is not beneficial."
"I'll just spackle it directly onto my thighs."
"I deserve better!"
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Baby
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4/18/2009 1:49:44 PM
Being from the South, it's very common to use terms such as "sweetie," "sugar," "honey," "baby," "darlin'" etc. but I never did like being called "dear." Not sure why. I guess I was never called that except in a condescending way, so maybe it's just the connotation, not the word.
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??? about what's legal or not
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4/18/2009 1:43:06 PM
Depends on the state (or country.) In some states, you can legally get a "massage" (meaning she uses her hands) but you cannot have oral/genital, genital/genital or object/genital contact for money. Not sure where boobs might fit into this equation.
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Meatball Man Meets The Flying Spaghetti Monster
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4/18/2009 1:20:06 PM
My photo wasn't supposed to be on there.
Don't worry, we don't need a picture or a name to know it's you. Your ignorance shouts it out in 3-D technicolor.
I just couldn't bite my tongue at the way you suck up to her. And she's loving it.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have it. Wes' true motivations. Other people are having a good time and getting along and he isn't included, so he's grumpy and vindictive. God forbid a man with in-depth, scholarly knowledge of the Bible (rather than perverted fantastical views) should speak without hate and judgment to a WOMAN! :::::gasp::::: How dare he?
I don't have to read from all, or any, of the books you speak of. The Bible is THE BOOK. .....Though I have read from plenty of Theological books and have a bunch of helps such as Vines, Colin Brown, Strong's, and others, if the Bible is the final and only true authority, it doesn't matter to me what you or Nola's authors say.
So, that means that if your particularly skewed interpretation of the Bible doesn't match our interpretation of the Bible, it doesn't matter what YOU say, either, right? After all, you're just a guy with an agenda interpreting it to satisfy some personal insecurity and desires. It's not like you actually study it to gain any deep understanding or englightenment.
He knew and preached that many are called, but few are chosen....
If a person isn't chosen, then you can talk until you're blue in the face, make every conceivable argument known effective to man, make every concession, but the person will not accept your message or assimilate it into her own life or thinking.
"Her life." Yet another misogynistic stab pointing, once again, to your true motivations. It is cultic thinking to believe that only a few will be "chosen." It is also the height of ignorance to think that it's "your message" a person must accept if they are to be saved. Last time I checked, it was Jesus' job to save people, in His own time, according to His plan, not yours.
Spiritual truths must be spiritually appraised.
Yep. Which is why everyone thinks you're full of crap when you talk "spirituality" using ego based bashings rather than spirit based compassion. Once again, I'll point out that you'd go a lot farther to being taken more seriously as a "man of God" if you stopped using your "little brain" to do your thinking for you.
Remember the simple exchange recorded in John 3 between Nicodemus and Jesus. I'll quote a few of the key verses in that passage that demonstrate my point about spiritual discernment.....
That very same exchange also highlights and magnifies your ignorance. You act as if you are a "teacher of Israel" and yet you are still so woefully ignorant of spiritual things. Perhaps you should heed your own advice and become a more spiritual person rather than behaving like a petulant child because no one will play the game your way.
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4/18/2009 11:55:47 AM
Ryde -
I like Marcus Borg. And, most of what I am telling you falls into a very simple concept of his, i.e. that a person's relationship with God as more important than their belief about God.
You argue like a Jesuit (that's a compliment, hehe) but your arguments are based on a mountain of wiki-bits and Gordian Knots of rhetoric. You have to step outside the analyses in order to have a deeper understanding of the whole picture.
Kind of like art. You can sit there and pick apart Picasso and talk about how cubism came about and his intentions, blah, blah, blah but without allowing the art to flow over you and provoke a more visceral response (which is what artists are trying to do) then you won't really have any deeper understanding beyond the simple mechanics.
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4/18/2009 11:49:34 AM
like this person who you've been buttering up to so well
It's OK, Wes, you can say my name. EVERYONE knows you're whining about me again. No need to be such a wuss about it. I guess that new name didn't come with a set of balls, huh? You might also want to think about a new profile photo that doesn't make you look like a pissed-off old sourpuss. Try smiling once in a while.
Wow, your first post with a new profile name and already you've personally insulted two people and mocked the belief systems of millions of people, including our Founding Fathers. Well done!
is that any belief system other than fundamental Christianity is right on. And that the only people who are wrong and should be censored are fundamental Christians, you know, the kind that founded this great country we live in.
It might be worth taking the time to do a little reading once in a while. If you did, you might discover that 4 of the first 6 presidents of the United States as well as several signers of the Declaration of Independence were members of the Unitarian Church (not the Glory Hallelujah Hell & Damnation Cult.)
Also, let's refer back to Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli - which I have pointed out to you before, but which, alas, you have also chosen to ignore as if that would make it go away - which states, quite clearly:
"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion......"
This treaty was drawn up during George Washington's administration and ratified by John Adams (the 2nd president AND a Unitarian) whose ratifying statement says:
"Now be it known, That I John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said Treaty do, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, accept, ratify, and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof. And to the End that the said Treaty may be observed, and performed with good Faith on the part of the United States, I have ordered the premises to be made public; And I do hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof."
Well, well, isn't that interesting? President Adams "ordered the premises to be made public" and "do hereby enjoin and REQUIRE all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States AND ALL OTHER CITIZENS.... faithfully to observe and fulfill the said treaty." One of our founding fathers has REQUIRED us to observe that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
Hmmm......
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Historic Christian Faith.
What is that??? If history has shown us anything at all, it's that during each era (or even each generation,) faith is based upon a BELIEF by individuals who were exposed to certain information. Some of these people became mystics, some became politicians, others had other agendas. Very little actual historical FACT is presented. Which part of "history" are you referring to when you say "Historic Christian Faith?" The Gnnostics? The Merovingians? Josephus? The Council of Nicaea? The Desposyni? Hippolytus?
I look at the history and I see plenty of very early Christians who did not worship Jesus as God at all but saw him rather as a prophet or guru. Who gets to decide which writings are worthy or correct?? So far as I know, Jesus never wrote anything down. Just a bunch of guys he knew, and their students, and their students, each wrote their perceptions of things they may or may not have been witness to. Also, as the information migrated, it evolved in the minds of philosophers and kings. How are we to know what was really said?
All in all, the Bible is merely parable. If Jesus taught us one thing for sure, it's that he was totally into teaching lessons with the use of morality tales and parables. Anyone who believe that the Bible is absolute, literal, historic truth is, frankly either trying to bullsh!t us in order to get us to believe in their particular agenda, or they are incredibly naive.
Faith is not ACTUALLY a mustard seed. Nor did God create the universe in 6 earth days measuring 24 hours each. There was no talking snake or enlightenment generating fruit trees. Where did Mrs. Cain come from?? When the end of the world happens, I suspect it will not be accompanied by four actual horsemen blowing trumpets and angels pouring bowls of plagues on us. All these things are simplified stories that will resonate over time with different people from different places in the world and at different times in history.
During each of these times and in each of these places, Christian faith is in a constant state of flux. How is any of it "historical" except in some sort of record keeping, statistical fashion? Why does it matter? What has it got to do with God?
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Beliefs Within Our Faith
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion that encompasses many faith traditions. Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, and others. As there is no official Unitarian Universalist creed, Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truth on many paths.
"Unitarian" is also a separate church from Unitarian Universalists; although the Unitarian and Universalist churches joined together in the 60's to form a new covenental (not creedal,) sect with Judeo Christian roots, the Unitarian Church still exists separately as a Christian church . Unitarians are a CHRISTIAN denomination which believe in God as a single entity and Jesus either the perfect human example of the way God wants us to live or, in the case of conservative Unitarians, a manifestation of God Himself, not a separate entity. They see the "Father, Son, Holy Spirit" as one and the same, much the way a human is body, mind and spirit simultaneously, not different personages.
Most Unitarians will call their church a "church" but not all Unitarian Universalists will because they acknowledge that some of their members (Jews, Buddhist, Pagans, Atheists, etc.) go to temple, or shrine or other types of gatherings they don't call "church." In these instances, many refer to themselves as "congregations."
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what are the essentials of Christianity?...
...we affirm the existence of a triune God or one God in three distinct persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit....
Uh, no. This is true for many Christian denominations, but certainly not true for all. Take Unitarianism for example. They specifically do not believe in a triune God.
Faith in Christ is the only means by which mankind can escape eternal damnation and judgment.
Again, no. Some believe that part of the Bible which states that denying the Holy Spirit is the only way to guarantee you'll be damned.
Your conclusions are very deeply rooted in Catholic doctrine and dogma. You practically quote the Nicene Creed. Those tenets of faith are indeed a part of many denominations and sects of Christianity, but they are not essential nor definitive as to what makes a Christian, Christian.
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4/13/2009 11:34:19 PM
They are reading books you have never heard of, let alone have on your shelf. I am willing to bet that NOLA has a copy of Elaine Pagels (Correct me if I am wrong...Nola)
Hehe, you're not wrong. It is one of MANY books on my shelves and not necessarily one I entirely agree with, although it's broadened by view.
I spent many years in the Catholic church and a few more as a hardcore fundamentalist Bible banger with a focus on studying escatology as well as the framework of "cults" in order to minister to their "victims" in order to bring them to the True Church before The End Times. I even passed out Bible tracts on Venice Beach to all those "sinners" rollerblading in thong bikinis.
If you wonder why I left all that, all you have to do is imagine yourself surrounded by whole communities of people who think just like Huntin and who insist you bow to their will (including letting them make all your important decisions for you, especially with regards to your money) or else they wail and carry on about how you've been seduced by Satan and must have your demons cast out before you infect anyone else with independent thinking.
Watching faith healers resort to parlor tricks; being told that if you were poor it meant that the Lord wasn't blessing you so you were obviously not a good Christian; and listening to ministers going on and on and on during just about every service about how homosexuals are all child molesters and all feminists murder their babies and have sex with their dogs makes even the most faithful person want to risk hell just to escape that crap. All the quoting of Scriptures going on and so little of it is about love, compassion, humility, patience, equality, justice, generosity, hope, respect, forgiveness and plain ol' kindness.
Judgmentalism, hatefulness, bigotry, greed, arrogance and perversion of God's Word by those types of "Christians" are the reasons why literally millions of people don't go to church anymore. It's not God's fault.
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4/13/2009 11:06:20 PM
The Gospel of Thomas....
Oooh, that would be one of those heretical gospels that are shunned because they don't fit the Agenda. Well done!
Most churches do not believe they are the Only True Church.
Your posts, although well written, show your dislike and bias against the Catholic church. (Which is fine) But to imply that modern translations are in error because the Catholics SOLD forgiveness is a bit of a stretch.
Many churches believe they are the one true church, not just that Christianity is the one true path to God. Visit any Assemblies of God, Foursquare, Pentacostal, Apostolic Lighthouse, etc. and you will understand what I mean. The number of Hellfire And Damnation denominations out there is staggering.
I think you may have misunderstood my posts regarding errors in modern translations. I'm not saying they are in error BECAUSE of the selling of absolution. I'm saying I think there is a direct correlation between a church being willing to sell absolution and the drive to edit (butcher) the collection of gospels to fit their political agenda.
The Bible that most Christian churches use today, is descended from a skeletal framework deliberately censored by the Roman Catholic Church to manipulate society for the benefit of secular kings. There is a reason the Gospel of Thomas isn't included and you know what it is: It tells us that we don't need a physical "church" to worship God. Without "The Church," Catholicism would never have become the political, spiritual and economic power that it is today and has been for hundreds of years.
When Christian churches start using the Apocrypha and Gnostic Gospels, then I'll trust them a whole lot more. As of right now, though, I have only ever found one Christian church that didn't have a very specific agenda which was justified by twisting "God's Word." Sadly, that church doesn't exist anymore because it went broke. Hmmm......
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Religious People
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4/11/2009 10:52:39 AM
I've been converted, I threw away the Bible from which everything I said above was
quoted directly.
You always say you "quote" directly but, in almost every instance, fail give us the real quote, in it's context, nor refer us to the exact chapter and verse you got it, despite repeated requests for backup. Then, when you do pull a chapter and verse out, it's WRONG!
You mix up the order of events to suit your agenda, and then tried to pass it off as if The Gospel According To Wes were handed down by God Himself.
I was in error for thinking that there was a God that could possibly keep his hand on what he had revealed about himself to mankind.
No, you were in error in thinking that you know the Mind of God better than everyone else and that your particularly skewed, self-serving, perverted view was the only one that could possibly exist because you know everything God is thinking and planning for everyone that ever lived.
Thankyou for your persistence in haranging ..... for being stupid enough to think that I could possibly rationally present any of it to ye.
Congratulations! The first step to solving the problem is to admit you have one. Until you can present things without twisting them into a pretzel to fit your convoluted and perverted agenda, then you will never be able to be "rational" about anything.
I really feel bad about this now, too because it puts me in the company of the great apostle Paul when he attempted to rationally present the Gospel message on Mars Hill and was so strongly rejected.
Big difference here: He was an apostle who heard the message directly from Jesus' mouth and presented it with love, compassion and hope for his audience. You are an arrogant, judgmental, cowardly little man who uses the Word of God as a stone to throw at other people's houses instead of tending to your own. Not exactly the same category, now is it?
He learned that day, and said it in Corinthians, spiritual things must be spiritually appraised, meaning the unspiritual can not understand spiritual things.
Exactly, which just proves that translating God Word requires that you use your heart, not your d!ck. All your talk of "spirituality" is nothing more than a thin disguise over your true motivation.
Ye shall hear from me no more on this subject.
Oh, I doubt that. The next time you need to feel self-important, have a pity party, blame a woman for your own problems, or attempt to impress a conservative reader, you'll be back at it. It's your signature response style as is illustrated by your most recent post. I doubt you have the capacity to learn any other.
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4/9/2009 7:39:35 PM
Perhaps coming on like this in some of your posts is what prompts responses like "you make my skin crawl". I think it's safe to say you aren't winning many sheep into the fold with the club of righteousness. At least not here.
Oh, I'm not particularly bothered by the "if you don't believe what I believe God will torture you forever" crap that Wes insists on ramming down everyone's throat at the slightest provocation.
What bothers me is his blatant and insistent hatefulness of women. To him, women were created by God FOR men and men's pleasure, to obey, serve and service men. Anything that ever goes the way Wes doesn't want it to, whether it's his personal relationships, or on a societal scale, is always the fault of women, never his own fault and surely never the fault of a man. Women who are not subservient and sexually attractive are labeled as some sort of evil who ruin everything through their own selfish need to hurt men.
This is what makes my skin crawl:
I want to point out that the Fall of Man as recorded in Genesis 3 is a demonstration of what happened the first time man gave up his God-given leadership position and followed a woman's lead.
Here Wes points out that the Fall of Man was because Adam didn't keep his woman in line like God supposedly told him to do (but that, somehow, is still the woman's fault.)
Interestingly enough, in Genesis Adam and Eve were created equal. It wasn't until AFTER choosing to eat of the tree that God told Eve her punishment would be pain in childbirth and that her desire for her man would allow him to rule her. He never told Adam he was in charge. He told Eve that her desire would put him in charge. That was the same time He told Adam he'd have to work for a living instead of having God provide everything.
Then Wes goes on with this little gem:
Of course the serpent came to the weaker vessel (as spoken of in Scripture, I don't mean anything chauvinistic by that comment)
LOL! Where does it say this? This is another one of Wes' pervert fantasies and probably the reason he hates women so much. If they're so much "weaker," then why do they have so much control over him? Nothing is ever his fault because women have taken over! So much for the weaker vessel.
the woman, and used her to entice the man into doing exactly what the man had been commanded not to do. The Result when the man gave up his leadership position: The Fall of Mankind.
Once again, here is Wes blaming EVERYTHING on a woman. Not just vegetarianism, gay rights or pro-choice legislation, but the ENTIRE FALL OF HUMANITY!
The biggest issue is that he never backs up his assertions except in the most vague way. When confronted by a woman, Wes whips out the Bible (thinking that we don't own one or don't know how to read) and tries to make himself feel more important because God supposedly is on his side. No other resources are ever presented (even when requested) although they are often alluded to.
Yes, we women are so powerful and so much of a threat that only God Himself can help poor, spineless Wes defeat us!
Good grief.
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Worse Movie Ever!
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4/8/2009 5:17:45 PM
Lake Placid(My favorite killer croc movie)
I loved that movie! Betty White was beyond hysterical.
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Meatball Man Meets The Flying Spaghetti Monster
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4/7/2009 10:14:22 PM
Might I suggest you refrain from pointing out others' ignorance because you have just proven, empirically, that you are easily the most ignorant fool on God's green earth.
Your relentless misogyny is frightening in and of itself, but that you use God to justify it is pathetic and reeks of desperation. You make my skin crawl.
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