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fzrhusker

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The California Collapse Posted: 11/13/2009 7:33:43 AM
Here's the shared sacrifice. California Legislature tries to block steep cut in pay and perks The attorney general is asked to determine whether an 18% pay reduction and car allowance cuts are illegal. Capitol managers say a citizens panel that decided the reductions exceeded its authority. By Patrick McGreevy November 6, 2009 Reporting from Sacramento - The state Legislature is quietly seeking to block a steep cut in lawmakers' salary and perks. Executives of the Assembly and Senate have asked the state attorney general to determine whether the scheduled 18% pay reduction and additional 18% cuts to living expenses and car allowances are illegal. The lowered benefits are due to kick in next month, while base pay is set to be slashed from $116,000 to $95,000, starting with lawmakers elected next year. Senate Secretary Greg Schmidt, who co-signed the letter requesting the legal opinion, said the Legislature's top attorney has said the citizens commission that ordered the reductions lacked the power to cut the per diem and car allowances. "We want to make sure they are legal actions," Schmidt said. "If the compensation commission thinks the action is OK and the legislative counsel says it's not, we need to go to a third party." Charles Murray, the Los Angeles businessman who is chairman of the Citizens Compensation Commission, said the panel has a legal opinion from an attorney at UC Hastings College of Law that says the panel acted within its authority. Murray also cited a narrow legal opinion by the attorney general's office in June that indicated that the panel could not cut pay for sitting legislators but that it appears to have the power to do so for those elected in the future. Murray said the challenge by the Legislature could "backfire" for elected officials at a time when most state employees are being forced to take three unpaid furlough days each month and many taxpayers are suffering. "I don't think this is the right time to oppose the action of the Citizens Compensation Commission," Murray said. The challenge was approved by the office of Assembly Speaker Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles). A spokeswoman said that a separate state board sets per diem payments. "We respect the Citizens Compensation Commission, but they have to follow the Constitution," said spokeswoman Shannon Murphy. "Getting legal clarity about what they can truly do under the Constitution is absolutely appropriate, especially when their actions directly conflict with those of the state board that oversees issues involving per diem." A representative of Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) said the leader did not approve the challenge before it was filed by Schmidt and Jon Waldie, the chief administrative officer of the Assembly. "It's something they did on their own," said Nathan Barankin, a spokesman for Steinberg. Schmidt reports to Steinberg and Waldie to Bass. Barankin said Steinberg was not available for comment but will abide by whatever the attorney general finds. The letter from Schmidt and Waldie asks Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown to rule on whether the commission acted legally when it voted May 20 to impose the cuts. Its members, the letter said, "apparently lacked the authority to make a salary adjustment at that time based on the condition of the state budget." Murray countered that state officials had announced a budget shortfall before the commission took action. The pair also complained in their letter that a resolution the commission adopted regarding expenses focused on legislators to the exclusion of other elected state officials. "The fact that the resolution has been tailored in this fashion to single out the Legislature suggests an abuse of discretion on the part of the commission," the two executives wrote. In its final action, however, the panel did cut expenses for other elected officials. The letter also contends that "travel and living expenses for members of the Legislature are not addressed" in the section of the state Constitution that gives the commission its responsibilities. To bolster their argument, they sent a legal opinion from Legislative Counsel Diane F. Boyer Vine that says "the determination of per diem reimbursements for members of the Legislature is not a benefit within the jurisdiction of the commission." patrick.mcgreevy@latimes.com Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times

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Why do men want to see revealing pics right away? Posted: 11/12/2009 2:42:50 PM
I want to take the revealing pics, ladies any volunteers!!!!!!!! Messages this short may not be posted

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HELP PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT Posted: 11/12/2009 2:37:25 PM
When they stop giving it away I will start donating. Messages this short may not be posted

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Do you like the USA? Posted: 11/12/2009 8:54:30 AM
You want illegal over and over stopped, shut down Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, they are at the heart of the entire crash. Oh and if you are going to prosecute those on Wall street then you need to prosecute the people at the GSE. Maybe you ought to look at the bonuses the people at the failing GSEs are getting and they are still taking on bad loans.

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Fort Hoodwink? Posted: 11/12/2009 8:38:48 AM
Don't worry Match the libs are probably working with the Psychologist council to get being a Jihadist declared a mental disorder. hippie commune folk do not buy million dollar houses in the Oakland Hills! Have you ever heard the phrase? " Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac" JT7 you remind me of this scene out of Good Will Hunting, hope you get the metaphor: Sean: Thought about what you said to me the other day, about my painting. Stayed up half the night thinking about it. Something occurred to me... fell into a deep peaceful sleep, and haven't thought about you since. Do you know what occurred to me? Will: No. Sean: You're just a kid, you don't have the faintest idea what you're talkin' about. Will: Why thank you. Sean: It's all right. You've never been out of Boston. Will: Nope. Sean: So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the pope, sexual orientations, the whole works, right? But I'll bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling; seen that. If I ask you about women, you'd probably give me a syllabus about your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can't tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You're a tough kid. And I'd ask you about war, you'd probably throw Shakespeare at me, right, "once more unto the breach dear friends." But you've never been near one. You've never held your best friend's head in your lap, watch him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I'd ask you about love, you'd probably quote me a sonnet. But you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable. Known someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like God put an angel on earth just for you. Who could rescue you from the depths of hell. And you wouldn't know what it's like to be her angel, to have that love for her, be there forever, through anything, through cancer. And you wouldn't know about sleeping sitting up in the hospital room for two months, holding her hand, because the doctors could see in your eyes, that the terms "visiting hours" don't apply to you. You don't know about real loss, 'cause it only occurs when you've loved something more than you love yourself. And I doubt you've ever dared to love anybody that much. And look at you... I don't see an intelligent, confident man... I see a cocky, scared shitless kid. But you're a genius Will. No one denies that. No one could possibly understand the depths of you. But you presume to know everything about me because you saw a painting of mine, and you ripped my fucking life apart. You're an orphan right? [Will nods] Sean: You think I know the first thing about how hard your life has been, how you feel, who you are, because I read Oliver Twist? Does that encapsulate you? Personally... I don't give a shit about all that, because you know what, I can't learn anything from you, I can't read in some fuckin' book. Unless you want to talk about you, who you are. Then I'm fascinated. I'm in. But you don't want to do that do you sport? You're terrified of what you might say. Your move, chief.

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Do you like the USA? Posted: 11/12/2009 8:32:00 AM
Bailout 700Billion Stimulus 787 Billion GM 68 Billion Chrysler 60 Billion 1.623 Trillion dollars 1 Million dollar loans for 1, 600,000 QUALIFYING small businesses and or start ups across the country. Hell even the start ups would less of a gamble than the government wasting it. Let the big boys fail because there are more than enough entrepreneurs waiting in the wings to take up the slack in all industries. Then lets see what the economy looks like.

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 11/11/2009 9:19:24 AM
PH her husband is up for a job in the administration, not sure I think its White House Counsel.

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Fort Hoodwink? Posted: 11/11/2009 9:17:25 AM
Obama told me everything I needed to know about him when he skipped the Military ball at his inauguration. Being CNC is his first responsibility and there has never been a presidents that has ever not attended this ball. The military and the wars are a nuisance of the job to him, that takes time out of his real agenda. Everything he has said to or about the military from that point forward rings hollow in my ears.

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Health care Posted: 11/10/2009 2:27:50 PM
That is not a tax it is a forced expenditure. They can't tell me to buy a car, a candy bar, etc well not yet. So whats next I will be fined and jailed if I don't buy a car or the car they recommend, the writing is on the wall. Since when is not buying something a prosecutable offense?

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Fort Hoodwink? Posted: 11/10/2009 2:20:25 PM
jt7 you sound like a Berkley grad? Definitely a bay area mentality, do you often visit the anti American book stores in the Bay area.

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Fort Hoodwink? Posted: 11/10/2009 8:42:48 AM
Gogetter the problem with your statement is that the Crusaders invaded the holy land, they weren't fighting them in London. The Crusaders were practicing jihad. Theory; What if he did snap not because of the stories he was hearing from returning soldiers, but that these returning soldiers were killing his Muslim brothers. So he took it upon himself to go to the deployment center to stop as many soldiers as he could from getting deployed that were going to kill his Muslim brothers? Just a theory.

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Fort Hoodwink? Posted: 11/10/2009 8:05:58 AM
I don't claim to be a Christian but i am so sick the fact that every time a Terrorist attacks the well there are bad Christians too argument. Show me the tape or footage of Christians that have vowed to erase all Muslims off the face of the earth. The Christians have some idiots but they have not taken on a world wide crusade to eliminate the non- believers, and don't give me the Crusades show me modern day stuff. Keep in mind that there are Christian religions who teach their members to hate and kill those who do not believe as they do, too I want to see proof of this?

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Health care Posted: 11/10/2009 8:01:28 AM
CNC you think the fed won't use actuary tables to figure this stuff out? If they don't then there can be no cost containment and it will be a program just like medicare that cost 9 times it original projections. It doesn't take 1900 pages to fix the problem. you say its not about control then answer this. Why is ther a mandate in the bill that if you don't buy health insurance: You will be fined 2% of your income If you fail to pay the 2% fine you can fined up to $250,000 or up to 5 years in jail. Typical example of someone who has not read the bill and just trusts the government.

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 11/10/2009 7:53:35 AM
A politician at his finest, note the sarcasm! Murtha is a POS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgUCdefSW8

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Health care Posted: 11/10/2009 7:35:52 AM
For those of you who support this bill I will ask this, why are you not looking at this bill as critically as you did the patriot act. Even if you support it can really trust that everything in the 1900 pages is actually about health care or good for a our freedoms. This is just big government getting bigger, just the other side of the coin.

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 11/10/2009 7:27:45 AM
GC what I find funny is that this is the same guy who jumped all over that white racist cop, is telling us now not to jump to any conclusions about the Ft Hood shooter, no bias there.

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Health care Posted: 11/8/2009 7:13:35 AM
Well the idiots did it, just hope the Senate has more sense.

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Fort Hood shooting - What are the questions? What are the answers? Posted: 11/7/2009 8:18:13 PM
Hasan is a POS and a traitor to his country and a weak spineless idiot not worthy of the uniform he wore. Some people picked on him, ya this is the kind of puss I want next to me on the battle field. Never been to Iraq or Afghanistan, heard some stories. He was about to be sent, oh it would have been so bad, he is a shrink, he would be in an office on a FOB. But he damn sure let the military put him through school. I have been 3 times and have hundreds of friends who have been over, they should have let him bleed out right there. He is worse than the terrorist he is a traitor. Hope they get him well so they can hang him. Stop making excuses for this POS.

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Congressional Hispanics Threaten to Vote Against Health Care Posted: 11/7/2009 8:10:04 PM
It doesn't matter if they give it to them or not. They will back door it like they do now. In Cali they are only supposed to be covered if it is an emergency so what does Cali do, make being pregnant an emergency condition. Whats next, I'm out on a date and am experiencing ED, go to the emergency room and get a blue pill. The politicians will sell this country down the river and have been for years for their next voting block.

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Do you like the USA? Posted: 11/7/2009 12:20:45 PM
One of the problems any third party has is after Perot the Dems and Repibs set up rules to keep third parties out of the major debates. Skooch who do you see as the leader of the Dems, and the leader of the progressives?

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Pearls of Wisdom from Men Posted: 11/6/2009 4:53:56 PM
Retired Husband After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Target. Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunate, my wife is like most women-she loved to browse. Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Target. Dear Mrs. Johnson, Over the past six months, your husband has caused quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against your husband, Mr.Samsel, are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras. 1. June 15: Took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in other people's carts when they weren't looking. 2. July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in housewares to go off at 5-minute intervals. 3. July 7: He made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women's restroom. 4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, 'Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away. This caused the employee to leave her assigned station and receive a reprimand from her Supervisor that in turn resulted with a union grievance, causing management to lose time and costing the company money. 5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of M&Ms on layaway. 6. August 14: Moved a 'CAUTION - WET FLOOR' sign to a carpeted area. 7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told the children shoppers he'd invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department to which twenty children obliged. 8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him he began crying and screamed, 'Why can't you people just leave me alone?' EMTs were called. 9. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose. 10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were. 11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the 'Mission Impossible' theme. 12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his 'Madonna look' by using different sizes of funnels. 13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled 'PICK ME! PICK ME!' 14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed 'OH NO! IT'S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!' And last, but not least: 15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, 'Hey! There's no toilet paper in here.' One of the clerks passed out.

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Do you like the USA? Posted: 11/6/2009 4:53:18 PM
Funny take skooch but as I see it the Dems have split into two parties, the Democrats and the progressives?

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Captivating qualities? Posted: 11/6/2009 12:07:28 PM
Must be on at least 3 mood altering drugs. Must dress like she just came out of the trailer park. No Job 5 daddy's babies Screams at me for absolutely no reason. Been convicted of stabbing at least two of her baby's daddy. Broken down car. Massive amounts of debt to rent-a-center.

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what's an appropriate age differential? Posted: 11/6/2009 11:51:22 AM
I want to be the male version of Anna Nichole, so wheres my 90 year old billionaire on her death bed.

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Housing tax credit costing more than it help. Posted: 11/6/2009 11:44:12 AM
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=186831,00.html http://www.housingcrisis.com/tag/calculated-risk/ The NAR recently reported: NAR estimates that about 1.8 to 2.0 million first-time buyers will take advantage of the $8,000 tax credit this year, with approximately 350,000 additional sales that would not have taken place without the credit. You can calculate the new $15 billion projection; 1.9 million times $8,000. But this only resulted in 350,000 additional sales. Divide $15 billion by 350 thousand, and the program cost is about $43,000 per additional buyer. Very expensive. Now the National Association of Home Builders estimates that expanding and extending the credit through 2010 would generate 500,000 additional sales at a cost of about $30 billion. So this is approximately $60,000 per additional house sold. And I think the cost will be much higher.

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ok,,its gone too far...welfare cell phones? Posted: 11/6/2009 11:20:38 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 11/6/2009 8:37:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Di1xk2_Es

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The California Collapse Posted: 11/5/2009 8:47:58 AM
All of them, wait till this hits peoples paychecks. Next year is an election year. They just couldn't manke more cuts and spend less. Watch the mass exodus from Cali.

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The California Collapse Posted: 11/5/2009 7:27:43 AM
California Governor signs budget trailer bills including revenue acceleration provisions As expected, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed the state budget passed by the California Legislature, including two budget trailer bills that increase personal income tax withholding, accelerate the installment payments for personal income and corporation franchise and income taxes, retroactively revise the estimated tax underpayment penalty to conform the application of withholding credits to the revised estimated tax installment percentages, and generally conform to federal backup withholding provisions. Withholding. A.B. 17 increases payroll withholding by 10%, effective for wages paid after October 31, 2009. Similarly, withholding on supplemental wages increase from 6% to 6.6% effective for supplemental wages paid after October 31, 2009. For stock options and bonus payments that constitute wages paid after October 31, 2009, the withholding rate increases from 9.3% 10.23%. Estimated tax payments. The law also increases the second quarterly estimated tax payment from 30% to 40%, eliminates the third quarterly installment, and increases the fourth quarterly installment from 20% to 30%, applicable to installments due for each taxable year beginning after 2009. Adjustments would also be made to the installment percentages due in instances in which the estimated tax payment threshold is reached after the first quarterly installment due date. Withholding credits. The law revises the estimated tax underpayment penalty provision that credits the amount of withholding against the estimated tax payments due. Under current law, withholding payments are applied equally against the quarterly estimated tax payments. If enacted, this bill would revise the amount of withholding payments to be applied to the estimated tax payments due to reflect the applicable percentage of estimated tax payments required to be paid, as discussed above. Consequently, applicable to amounts withheld on wages beginning after 2008, withholding payments would be applied at 30%, 30%, 20%, and 20%, and beginning with the 2010 tax year, withholding payments will be credited quarterly at percentages equal to 30%, 40%, 0%, and 30%. Backup withholding. A.B. 18 requires payors to withhold 7% from specified reportable payments. This would generally conform to the federal backup withholding provisions. However, California's requirements would apply to rents, prizes and winnings, compensation for services, including bonuses, and other fixed or determinable annual or periodic gains, profits, and income, but would not apply to payments of interest and dividends or any release of loan funds made by a financial institution in the normal course of business. The California backup withholding provision would apply to payments made after 2009. Finally the Franchise Tax Board (FTB) could require a payor of income to furnish the name, address, Social Security number, or other taxpayer identification of the recipient of such income for withholding purposes. Currently, a payor is only required to supply the name and address of the payee. ( A.B. 17 and A.B. 18, Laws 2009, Fourth Special Session, applicable as noted above.) Reprinted with permission. © CCH (Submitted July 30, 2009)

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You can quote me on that ... Posted: 11/3/2009 11:29:23 AM
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Join the army at 40 Posted: 11/3/2009 11:27:15 AM
I re joined at 42 but I had 10 years of active duty time in the 80s and 90s. Depends on why you want to join. I like guns and blowing sh!t up and just missed the Army lifestyle and camaraderie that you don't find in the civilian world.. You will have to get used to taking orders from people that are allot younger than you. I already had the rank when when I went back in so this was not a problem. Ask yourself what you want out of it and at 40 your body will take a serious beating no matter what kind of shape you are in. Most people in the Army at 40 are at or near the end of their careers. You will find a great social divide with your peers as people your age will out rank you and not generally hang around you. So you will be left to find your own social circle or hang with people that are way younger. Had allot of older lower ranking guys that joined when the age limit was raised and they had a very hard time physically in Iraq. You will get deployed.

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You can quote me on that ... Posted: 11/3/2009 8:51:32 AM
Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils. General John Stark on July 31, 1809

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Why people stick with their own Posted: 11/3/2009 8:45:22 AM
Why can your parents push your buttons, because they installed them. We all have good and bad buttons and just because we know we have them does not mean we can or should fix them. In the words of the immortal Captain Kirk, " I need my pain, it makes us who we are." Growing up an only child and some what of a loner I find that I don't have the need to be entertained by others which makes me kind of stand offish. But I generally have no problem in social settings unless it some place I just don't want to be. It is a natural thing for people to stick with there own, no matter what the commonality is that brings them together, its not good or bad it just is. This is the part the that the Social Engineers don't want to accept.

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You can quote me on that ... Posted: 11/3/2009 7:33:28 AM
" Better to be thought stupid, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt"

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We need to standardize how calendar dates are written Posted: 10/30/2009 9:02:29 PM
The new military standards in the U.S. are 28122009 d/m/yr and it is done this way as that is how it is being used in computers.

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 10/30/2009 8:59:32 PM
Our sovereignty as a country is about to be sold down the river. http://en.cop15.dk/ http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/03/the-copenhagen-treaty-draft-wealth-transfer-defined-now-with-dignity-penalty/ http://seekingalpha.com/article/167759-how-the-copenhagen-climate-treaty-will-affect-equity-markets

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Oct 5th entry in My Utmost for His Highest....defining sin Posted: 10/30/2009 12:30:56 PM
I will just say this: I have read many of the lost books that have been found and so on. When someone can give me a version of the bible that has not been corrupted by 2000 years of man then I will have a basis for this argument. There is a reason the call it The King James "VERSION" Try reading some of the lost teachings of Jesus that were found and you my have a different out look. Oh, and don't let the dogma of the church tell you they aren't for real or they aren't supposed to be in the bible, because allot of it is Jesus disavowing the church when it loses it s way, as with the Pharisees. When the Bible talks about finding your own truth, it is referring to the truth between you and god in the context of the his teaching. He want you to question him/her as this is a way to learn about your faith. Mustard seed of faith. Constantine began what was to become a centuries long effort to eliminate any book in the original Bible that was considered unacceptable to the new doctrine of the church. At that time, it is believed there were up to 600 books, which comprised the work we now know as the Bible. Through a series of decisions made by the early church leadership, all but 80 of those books, known as the King James Translation of 1611, were purged from the work, with a further reduction by the Protestant Reformation bringing the number to 66 in the "Authorized" King James Bible. What we now have in Bible-based religion, whether labeled as "Catholic", or Protesting Catholic, known as “Protestant", is unrecognizable form either the Hebrew religion, now known as the Jewish religion, or the church established at Jerusalem by the Apostles and disciples of Jesus. The practices of this first church are not practiced by any major religion and they are almost unknown, despite being clearly outlined in the existing New Testament. In its place are doctrines and practices first established in the first "true" Reformation of Christianity begun by Constantine. There is much controversy over how many books the Bible should actually contain but considering the depth and scope of those few works remaining in the "accepted" Bible, we see but a fragment of incredible wisdom and history. A study of the Lost Books of the Bible is incomplete without a clear understanding that this is not a matter of simple loss, but a campaign by the Roman Catholic Church to purge books variously classified as heretical, dangerous, and corruptive. To the public they are “lost”; to the Church they are “forbidden”. Although the exact number of books purged is known only to the Church, and not shared knowledge, some can be determined by the discovery of their presence in the church prior to the reformation resulting in what became known as the Roman "Universal" Church. One of the more obvious forms of discovery comes from the surviving books themselves, which sight works not present in the existing collection. Also many do not know that the Apocryphal books were actually included in the King James translation until they were officially purged by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885. Other writings also connect many books to the first church. Whatever the number before the purge by the formation of Catholicism by Constantine; even one lost book is a great loss indeed.

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Msg: 376 (view)

Oct 5th entry in My Utmost for His Highest....defining sin Posted: 10/30/2009 10:33:42 AM
Frank Viola on the Postchurch Perspective Is "where two or more are gathered" a church? by Frank Viola There is a growing phenomenon in the body of Christ today. Alongside of the missional church movement, the emerging church movement, and the house church movement, there is a mode of thinking that I call "post church Christianity." coffee.jpg The post church brand of Christianity is built on the premise that institutional forms of church are ineffective, unbiblical, unworkable, and in some cases, dangerous. Institutionalization is not compatible with ekklesia. So say postchurch advocates. But the postchurch view goes further saying, "any semblance of organization whatsoever . . . any semblance of leadership...is wrong and oppressive. Church is simply when two or three believers gather together in any format. Whenever this happens, church occurs." Here are some examples of what you might hear a postchurch advocate say: "Sally and I had coffee at Starbucks last week. That was church." "I get together with two other men once a month at Sonny's BBQ. That's church for us." "I travel a great deal and whenever I visit Christians in other cities, we're having church together." "I live in Dallas, TX. Last week, I talked to my friend on the phone for an hour. He lives in Miami, FL. The week before I talked with a friend who lives in Portland, OR. We were having church on the phone. I belong to the same church that they do." "I don't attend any Christian meetings. I have church on the Internet. I belong to several Christian discussion groups and social networks, and that's church for me." "I don't understand how people can talk about church planting? How can a church be planted when we are already the church? I'm the church. You're the church. So just be the church." To my mind, all of the above reflects a redefinition of ekklesia as it is found, used, and understood in the New Testament. No first-century Christian would have used "church" in this way. While there's certainly nothing wrong with fellowshipping with Christians at Starbucks, on the phone, or through the Internet, the biblical meaning of ekklesia is something quite different. The biblical text that postchurch advocates hang a great deal of their doctrine on is Matthew 18: 20:"For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." But it's important to read this verse in context: "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." (Matthew 18:15-20) Here, Jesus is speaking of a local ekklesia, a community of Christ-followers who live in the same locale. The people in this ekklesia know one another. And what this passage has in view is an excommunication meeting. Therefore, it's a horrifying text--a text that no Christian should ever want to use. It has to do with a person who is acting in a wayward manner and refuses to stop. When this happens, the injured person must go to the offending person in private. If the offending person refuses to reconcile, two or three others from the local ekklesia must talk to him. If the offending person still refuses to stop his wayward conduct, he must be dis-fellowshipped from the ekklesia. Note that Jesus says that the two or three should "tell it to the church" if the offending person doesn't repent. Now think: If the two or three people are the church, then this text becomes incoherent. Consequently, the two or three cannot be the church. They are simply a part of it. The implication is that the two or three who went to the unrepentant person should be praying for him. And the Lord will be with them in a special way as they do. He will stand with them. This context indicates that the ekklesia is an organic entity where a group of committed believers in a locality "bind and loose," using the keys of the kingdom that Jesus has given to them. Consequently, Matthew 18 is not a text in which Jesus is trying to define the church for us. Rather it's a text describing the awful process of excommunication. Because this is the primary passage the postchurch viewpoint is founded on, I'm of the opinion that the position cannot stand up against the light of the New Testament. I'll say more on that in my second post.

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Msg: 14 (view)

Dogs Have a Bigger Environmental Impact Then SUV's CarbonWise! Posted: 10/29/2009 9:55:06 PM
I'm going out and getting 10 more dogs right now, big mastiffs so they can double out put. Who freakin cares, just another way they will find to tax people.

fzrhusker

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Msg: 12 (view)

Should the President render salutes to military personnel ? Posted: 10/29/2009 9:49:25 PM
The fact that you even ask this question says so much about you and your little concern for those "that give that last full measure" I hope just hope that this man has finally figured out what it really means to be the CIC. That you would question some asinine regulation to oppose the simple gesture of respect for the fallen. You people haven't earned or deserve the devotion of the blood these men spilled gave.

fzrhusker

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Could it be any more negative? Posted: 10/29/2009 9:30:09 PM
ACE you can go to reddit.com and find the interview in full. Not sure what kind of site they are but if you take notice Frank is sitting in his office answering questions from the internet. They are advertising the interview on their site so I guess they are proud of it, so I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with the right. Its Barney Frank in his own words and far leftist dogma in full. He has never been shy about his agenda.

fzrhusker

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Msg: 1822 (view)

Could it be any more negative? Posted: 10/29/2009 10:05:19 AM
I suggest you watch the whole series if you want to know what the far left really thinks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuF6bWGadRc

fzrhusker

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Msg: 10 (view)

H1N1 has mutated. We're screwed now! Posted: 10/27/2009 7:46:45 AM
http://www.cbs7kosa.com/news/details.asp?ID=15742 http://www2a.cdc.gov/phlp/H1N1flu.asp

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Msg: 24 (view)

Communication stops Posted: 10/23/2009 1:06:29 PM
40% of all people on singles sites are married and just playing around. Watch how fast they disappear when you ask to meet them.

fzrhusker

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Msg: 168 (view)

Imprisoning nonviolent pot dealers -- a useless expense? Posted: 10/23/2009 7:10:08 AM
Bet you wouldn't see this if he was stoned? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nYx8iX9oX8&feature=popular

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Msg: 122 (view)

Pearls of Wisdom from Men Posted: 10/23/2009 6:58:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vd0s9Da2U&feature=popular

fzrhusker

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Msg: 70 (view)

CA Real Estate (#2) Posted: 10/21/2009 6:25:41 AM
Here we go again more Social Engineering. Ya it was the free markets fault. We just had the subprime mortgage crash and they want to do it again????????????????????????? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are going to take care of it, wow these names sound like a Prostitute and her pimp, and they will screw us all again. New Obama housing initiative to improve access to affordable housing October 19, 2009 05:30PM President Obama The Obama administration has introduced a new initiative that will support state and local housing finance agencies in efforts to keep mortgage rates low and increase access to affordable housing for low- and middle-income borrowers, the administration announced today. The plan includes both a new issue bond program that will encourage new lending, and a temporary credit and liquidity program, under which Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will offer liquidity for outstanding bonds. The plan will be financed through fees the individual agencies will pay in order to access incentives, and will be available on a temporary basis, only. The intent is to jumpstart HFA activity with respect to affordable housing in the wake of the housing market's troubles, while offsetting any potential risks to the taxpayer and the Treasury Department through these fees. TRD

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Msg: 1764 (view)

Our New President Posted: 10/20/2009 11:35:20 PM
GE will be the biggest benefactor of the Cap and Trade and the Health Care bill. CEO of GE is on Obamas economic advisory panel. GE owns MSNBC and they push the Obama agenda. I wonder why? NEA has been tasked to create propaganda art for the the Obama agenda? He want to turn Newspapers into Non-profits, wonder what will hapeen to there non-profit status if they print stories the government don't like. International treaties that will dissolve our dovetail. Its simple to me, CZARS, health care, cap and trade, push push push and overwhelm the system so that no one can pay attention to it all and push as much through as he can. Once its done it will be hard to undo. It is all a Trojan horse for control, being sold to the idiot masses that it will make their lives better, and the idiots believe it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q

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Msg: 1762 (view)

Our New President Posted: 10/20/2009 1:52:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYJRtKHthk&feature=related Ya, because I want Mark Lloyd deciding who gets what at the FCC.

fzrhusker

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Msg: 218 (view)

Name one good thing about yourself. Posted: 10/20/2009 11:34:50 AM
I understand yes oh no wow she is a **** you don't say what are you going to do can i help do you need anything ok

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