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 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 135 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 6:05:36 PM
Oh I see now why your so confused Wolfee you are from socialist Canada. You don't get real TV with the truth. You get liberal tv. To bad wolfee you may learn something if you could actually watch some real programs.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 6:01:54 PM
wolfman393
Well wolfee so I guess you were in the first gulf war as I was.
Kuwait as Bush 41 to help then get rid of Saddam.
They even paid for most of the war effort. Along with several other nations.
You are probably the stupidest moron I have ever had the opportunity to talk to.
The US and Saudi Arabia were both concerned that he would continue his invation into Saudi Arabia.
So little Wolfee you commmunist pig.
 timden
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Msg: 132 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 4:30:03 PM
It is funny how the Arab countries called us when Kuwait was taken over by Saddam.
How great we were to remove him and protect Sadia Arabia from the evil tyrrant.
I dont hear them complaining how evil we are mosty hear american liberals complaining about us removing him.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 124 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 8:33:37 AM
I retired from the Navy after 20 years of services to my Country
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 8:21:46 AM
Wolfman393:
I would rather be a God fearing, bible thumbing leader of democracy ensuring the safety of the American people no matter what it takes.
Than and atheist, abortion child murdering, murderer loving liberal who would do nothing to help his country.
Because all you can do is **** and complain about the country thats given you freedom to spew forth your stupid opinions without lifting a finger to help this country.
Thank God there are men willing to server there country despite people like you
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 118 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 8:15:52 AM

Not only did they 9/11 commission state Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11, not evidence he still had the gas or intended to use it was ever found. So your little fantasy story is full of shit.


These statements are the completly irrational like most liberal statements. Someone else has to do your thinking.

Explain no one said Saddam was involved. However, he had use WMDs againist the Kurds. I know you think Saddam is a sweet grandfather type who loved the US and would never sell terrorist any chemical weapons.
Like I said better safe than sorry, To late after one goes off in your neighborhood.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 113 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 7:02:56 AM
911 let america know that they were now Vulnerable to attacks from terrorist. We did not want Sadam giving them something like Sirene 2 Gas or VX that could kill 100s of thousands.
That is the main reason we flattened him
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 6:34:36 AM
The peace protesters believe if they can just talk to them and reason with them there will be no reason for war.
They don't seem to understand that in war each side wants something. The insurgents want to keep power and rule with an iron fist over the iraqi people.
We want to ensure they are not or can not become a threat to America. Also since we are there we want to try and create a democracy in that part of the world.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/3/2005 6:11:15 AM
Update,

hostage-takers threatening to kill the captives if its demands are not met by December 8.

What must the liberal hostages be thinking. How come they want sing Kum Bye Au and Michael Row your boat ashore with us.
You don't know Joan Baez or Jane Fonda. Now you say we are speis and you are going to kill us.
But we are on your side.

Just listen to us.


CNN) -- Arabic-language news network Al-Jazeera has aired video that appeared to show the four peace activists abducted in Iraq last weekend.

The network read a statement it said was from the hostage-takers threatening to kill the captives if its demands are not met by December 8.

CNN cannot independently verify the authenticity of the video or the statement.

According to the statement read by Al-Jazeera, the Swords of Justice Brigades is demanding the Iraqi government free all prisoners from its jails. The network said that the American and British hostages called on the U.S. and British governments to end all military presence in Iraq.

Video showed all four hostages separately. American Tom Fox, 54, and Briton Norman Kember, 74, appeared to be addressing the camera, but no sound was available from the Al-Jazeera broadcast. ('Fear on hostages' faces')

Two men who appeared to be Canadians James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Sooden, 32, had food in front of them.

The Christian Peacemaker Teams humanitarian group confirmed four of its human rights workers were abducted in Iraq last week, and confirmed that the four men shown in a previous video -- released by the hostage-takers and shown on Al-Jazeera Tuesday -- were those four.

On Thursday, CPT issued a statement saying it hopes the four men week "have been able to explain their work and their opposition to the war and the occupation of Iraq."

On Friday ten U.S. Marines were killed and 11 others were wounded by a bomb fashioned from several large artillery shells while they were on nighttime foot patrol near Falluja, the Marine Corps said
 timden
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Congratulations, America! US carries out 1,000th execution.
Posted: 12/2/2005 10:59:39 AM
I have something to say about that number of murderers being put to death in Texas



Texas - 355

I just want to celebrate.


 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
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Congratulations, America! US carries out 1,000th execution.
Posted: 12/2/2005 9:52:09 AM
In Texas we do not like to build new prisons to house these pices of crap. Why should Texas Tax Payers have to have their taxes go up
 timden
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Congratulations, America! US carries out 1,000th execution.
Posted: 12/2/2005 9:37:09 AM
I would be for cutting down the appeals process on murderers who have dirrect evidence linking them to the crime. However, it is hard to separate appeals for those with direct and those with circumstancual evidenvce. Without the liberals screeming "bloody murder"
sorry for the pun
 timden
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Congratulations, America! US carries out 1,000th execution.
Posted: 12/2/2005 9:02:19 AM
Here in Texas we still live by the laws of one of my heros "Judge Roy Bean"
If you murder in Texas you pay with your life, I believe that is a fair exchange if you want to be a murdering thug.
 timden
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Congratulations, America! US carries out 1,000th execution.
Posted: 12/2/2005 8:48:33 AM
I don't know if putting the offender to death offers much of a deterrent to hardened, inhumane criminals.


One thing I can tell you is once their sentance is carried out. They will never be able to commit another crime against hummanity.

I say, bye bye Tookie you mass murdering **stard
 timden
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Msg: 101 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/2/2005 7:41:54 AM
The media will protray the event as casualties of war a war that Bush caused. Instead of a bunch of left wing dumbasses. That in a country (over run with radical muslim insurgents)to mearly say you christen can get you beheaded.
 timden
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Msg: 98 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/2/2005 7:19:55 AM
Saddam was not a threat. There is no proof Saddam ever had WMD's (leading up to the invasion, or since Gulf War 1) and even less proof he got rid of these hypothetical weapons in Syria...


Who Cares. "Better Safe Than Sorry" It is to late once a WMD goes off in your neighborhood.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/2/2005 6:22:49 AM

What an incredibly ignorant thing to say. I believe there are four "liberals" in Iraq right now baring the responsibility.


Actually their organization the nitwits belong to are blaming Bush. It is his fault they were captured.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/1/2005 12:10:49 PM
I believe, that is exactly what the liberals want.
Most of the News channels are mouth pieces for Liberals
Did you hear Nancy Pelosi ranting and raving after Bush's speech. Oh we need to withdraw our troops immediately.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 12/1/2005 6:25:49 AM
Update on Hostage situation.

Looks like these terrorist are out to make money off these hostages.



An influential Sunni clerical group called Wednesday for the release of five Westerners taken hostage in a grim revival of the kidnappings that shook Iraq last year, saying they should be freed on humanitarian grounds

The Association of Muslim Scholars is believed to have contacts with some Sunni insurgent groups and has helped mediate the releases of other captives in Iraq.

The five include four aid workers from the group Christian Peacemaker Teams — Tom Fox, 54, of Clearbrook, Va.; Norman Kember, 74, of London; and James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, of Canada — and German archaeologist Susanne Osthoff, 43.

The association said freeing Osthoff would recognize Germany's "positive" stand toward Iraq. Germany strongly opposed the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

Osthoff and her Iraqi driver were seized Friday and were later pictured in a videotape blindfolded on a floor, with militants armed with a rocket-propelled grenade standing beside them.

In the northern city of Mosul, the head of the regional antiquities department, Muzahem Mahmoud al-Zawbai, said he warned authorities Osthoff was not safe and that he could not be responsible for her security due to insurgent activity. It was unclear if the authorities relayed the warning to Osthoff, who was working to renovate an historic house.

Stephan Kroll, an archaeologist at Munich's Ludwig-Maximilian University, where Osthoff studied, said she had told colleagues she was worried "something could happen to her."

Osthoff said she had been "stopped and held" on several occasions by unidentified groups seeking money, Kroll said. "She said she always got away because she could speak Arabic and because she told them she was on a humanitarian mission."

Kroll said Osthoff left the institute in 1991 without completing her master's degree and had "very limited expertise" as an archaeologist. He said he doubted reports that antiquities smugglers could have kidnapped her because she was disturbing their work.

University staff and friends pleaded with Osthoff not to go back to Iraq, but "she never listened. She went her own way," Kroll said. "She thought it was her mission to help the people."

The statement from the Muslim clerics said Osthoff was married to an Iraqi Muslim, "who is a member of the Shammar tribe from Mosul." The tribe, one of Iraq's largest, includes Shiites as well as Sunni clans. Vice President Ghazi al-Yawer is a senior Shammar figure.

The kidnappers have threatened to kill Osthoff and her driver unless Germany halts contacts with the Iraqi government. German Chancellor Angela Merkel vowed in a speech before parliament Wednesday that her government would "not let ourselves be blackmailed" by militants.

Germany's ZDF television broadcast pictures of German Ambassador Bernd Erbel meeting with the Association of Muslim Scholars on Monday in Baghdad.

The ZDF report said there were indications the kidnappers were Sunnis linked to the former ruling Baath party, but did not identify the source of its information.

The four Christian aid workers were taken captive Saturday and appeared in a video broadcast Tuesday by Al-Jazeera television. A previously unknown group calling itself the Swords of Righteousness Brigade claimed they were spies. (Related story: Broadcast shows hostage peace activists in Iraq)

The aid group they belonged to dismissed the allegation.

"These accusations are made routinely in these cases, without evidence of any kind and simply a justification for holding foreign nationals," Robin Buyers, a coordinator for Christian Peacemaker Teams, said Wednesday.

In urging the men's release, the Association of Muslim Scholars said freeing them would recognize their "good efforts in helping those in need."

Iraqi police suspect the kidnappings may be part of an insurgent plan to sow disorder ahead of Dec. 15 elections, but U.S. officials have refused to speculate about the motive.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Wednesday there was "no information to suggest that these (abductions) are connected."

"Our embassy officials are working closely with Iraqi officials and officials from other missions whose citizens are being held to locate and secure the release of these individuals," he said.

Some security experts believe the spate of kidnappings may be due to lax security. Although many foreigners were taken hostage last year, abductions tapered off after the fall of the insurgent bastion Fallujah to a U.S.-led assault in November 2004.

"It depends on availability of victims for kidnapping. People might have lowered their guards," said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at the RAND Corp. in Washington.

Insurgents may also be mixing up their tactics to draw attention, turning to kidnappings after an intense period of car bombings and suicide attacks, he said.

"Kidnappings of Iraqis have continued and never stopped," and the latest snatching of Westerners "may be the result of carelessness" in security, agreed Joost Hiltermann of International Crisis Group based in Amman, Jordan.

Another terrorism expert, Evan F. Kohlman, said the abductors may be seeking ransom.

"These are not hardcore insurgent groups," he said. "The more publicity they get about kidnapping, the better chance to make money."
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 2:15:12 PM
Thank you all for another interesting work day. It is now time to go to "Buffalo Wild Wings" have a couple of beers and play some NTN.

Tell me is freedom great or what?
 timden
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Msg: 64 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 1:46:42 PM

None of this would need to have happened...its their country....they can like it or lump it....they were no bother to us....only they didn't have this ruddy elusive bag of sweets that BUsh calls "freedom"


Go talk to the Kurds see how many of those people lived in fear ever day of their life. That Chemical Ali would laub another couple of gallons of serin gas at them.
In their commerical they say thank you america for democracy. the rest of iraq will also once we get rid of the terrorist.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 1:06:55 PM

in Iraq it was probably almost considered a good thing if you were jailed....the other option was death...and there you didn't even have the freedom to commit a real crime


Always good to see someone who has logic in their answers.

A safehouse for terrorist do they deserve such good treatment
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 12:37:09 PM

So I suppose Frist,Thurmond, Cunningham, Rove, Libby, Delay, Hintz, Taft, Fletcher, The Wyly brothers, Wilkes, Noe, Abramoff---


Again no one is above the laws set forth by a free society of democratic people. if you break the law and found guilty by a judge or jury. you go to jail.. I have, no problem with that
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 12:27:41 PM

Mission Accomplished


Yes, that ships mission was accomplished it was on it way home to its homeport.
He never said the war was over. he said this war is like no other war and it will take a long time and alot of american resolve.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 12:07:06 PM

I am not "free" to move into my neighbours house and have them leave on my command.


Your since of freedom is a little bizzare.

The freedom I am talking does not allow you to take over the homes of a free law abiding citizen of a free country.

However, if you have a crack house with drug dealers not obeying the laws of a just society.
You have the right to protect your family by calling the law on them
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 12:01:40 PM

I think that Europe may disagree with you.


There are not a lot of European graves in American fighting for freedom. I believe, here they were trying to keep british rule. Maybe a few frenchmen after they seen we were going to kick the britishes asses.
 timden
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Msg: 30 (view)
 
Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:54:00 AM

Freedom is an illusion sir.


No freedom is available to all whom are willing to abide by moral and ethical laws passed by a free democracy.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:51:23 AM

Why is it, some Americans feel they're the only nation that possess knowledge or facility for freedom?
I digress...


Since we have more graveyards with American blood in the cause of freedom. Maybe, you guys can show us how you have managed to back away from most conflicts.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:48:40 AM

HOw many prisons have they opened and filled up again? Freedom? Really?

Um..arn't there UNiversal curfews in Iraq right now? Freedom? Really?


hear we go again another person thinks that freedom comes free just wave that magic freedom wand and all is well.

you have to kill a lot of bad guys and put some in jails so they will not be disroupting the process. I know this is a hard subject to understand however, freedom takes a lot of spilt blood.
Ask Germany, Japan, Russia,
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:32:45 AM

There is a vast difference between one being 'anti-American' and 'anti-American gvt.' Comprehend and grasp the instance of disparity


I love my country and I am allowed to vote and travel freely about my country. I will fight for all the American people and others like the Iraqis whom seek freedom. I am proud that our government over threw a tyrant like Sadam. I hope our government does not give in to you Kum-By-Au singing liberals and continues to spread freedom throughout the world so all people will get taste of freedom.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 11:20:47 AM

God bless and preserve them...they looked ok but where will it end?


It will end dear when you anti-american idiots stop blaming the president for all that is wrong in Iraq and calling for an end to the war. Thus letting the US soliders(do their Jobs) kick the insurgents ass without bellyaching everytime one of our men happens (to die in battle) doing what they have taken and oath to do.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 7:44:30 AM

You shoudl read the whole story aswell, they werenot protesting anything and would not be considered liberal in the political sense they woudl idealogically be closer to conservatism like BUSH. They were a christian group who was offering aid to the Iraqi people. They were aiming at furthering peace through religious tolerance. They were actually captured while visiting a mosque. THEY WERE not protesting anything simply trying to help



Why thank you miss easyontheeyes all of 24 years to tell me the difference.
Have you ever heard the term"a wolf in sheeps clothings" you can disguise all you want they are antiamerican liberals.
I servered almost longer in the navy than you have been alive
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 7:34:39 AM
She's probably doing a photo shoot for Penthouse! For Feburarys 2006 issue.


That maybe a crime in its self
 timden
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Msg: 348 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/30/2005 7:08:06 AM

although this documentary was taken from the perspective of the guards,...I felt for the palestinians who had to beg to cross daily


Let see the headlines "35 innocent civilans killed in Suicide Bombing in Israeli Restaurant"
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:41:09 AM
Why was Cindy not with them.
Oh thats right she was at a book signing in Crawford, and from the pictures you linked us to I mean a book for the camera man.
 timden
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Peace Protesters Captured in Iraq Thread Closed - under review
Posted: 11/30/2005 6:00:53 AM
BAGHDAD, Iraq — A peace group blamed the United States and Britain for the abduction of four activists — an American, a Briton and two Canadians — shown in an insurgent video, saying the kidnapping was the direct result of the occupation of Iraq.

This is great you go to Iraq to protest for peace. You get you stupid liberal butt captured then you blame President Bush for your capture.
See this is what I have been saying about liberals the can never take responsibility. It is always someone elses fault.
I pray for those people hope they get home safely. However, thanks to them we now have to use resources to try to bring them home.
 timden
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Dubya has a number of very serious problems
Posted: 11/29/2005 6:28:00 AM
hiker958
Good throw him in jail no one is above the law. one less crooked Rep in California.


Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham resigned his office today after pleading guilty to fraud, conspiracy to commit bribery and tax evasion in a political corruption case.
 timden
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Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 2:17:19 PM

In my opinion, it really isn't about sanity or even whether or not I agree with her. As far as the "varacity of Sheehan," I believe that she truly believes in what she is doing, and so I believe there is veracity in her "pitch." We all form opinions based on our own realities; I say let her be. That's supposedly the beauty of this place... to be able to speak out just the way she is. We all have that opportunity, and it isn't the popular opinions that need the protection that we all have.


Yes, she does have that right. However, she is discrediting and disrespecting the people whom are fighting to maintain those rights that she is enjoying so much.
 timden
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Dubya has a number of very serious problems
Posted: 11/28/2005 2:01:49 PM
I say if we could remove all the liberals from American that would be the best thing for this country.]

What would you have the powers that be do with them? Put them in concentration camps? Sell them into slavery?

For someone that is so vehemently against dictators in the world, you sure think like one.

actually give them a plane ticket to a socialist country of their choice. I would set them free form the evil american empire that they loath so much.
 timden
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Msg: 114 (view)
 
Dubya has a number of very serious problems
Posted: 11/28/2005 1:56:18 PM
cougar99

My original point being,,you mention belief in GOD and doing things immortal,is being a lesbian something you

are you talking about Amy Carter.
I did not vote for carter and yes it is immortal behavior. Howerver, that is between them and their higher power if they have one.
 timden
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Msg: 286 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 1:03:12 PM
and you source is Michael Moore.
Man you are drinking the Koolaid and your getting your glass from Jim Jones himself.
 timden
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Msg: 282 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 12:56:56 PM
I believe, they are anti american letters writen by Michael Moore
The biggest Trader of America on the face of the earth.
Now that I know you source these letters have no credibility at All
 timden
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Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 12:50:08 PM
beachcomberbenn
You must be on something I have only cut and paste two things Casey Sheehan's bio.
To show he volunteered for the mission that got him killed and some liberal crap about how Cindy Sheehan is some kind of American Patriot by Ted somebody.
I believe, beachcomberbenn you may want to lay off the LSD while combing the beach for sea shells.
 timden
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Msg: 270 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Has a Fat Head and Slanders Her Child's Name
Posted: 11/28/2005 12:09:51 PM
I am SO fing SICK of this assumption that is made about questioning the legitimacy of the war- The troops did not DECIDE themselves to go to war- the president of the united states SENT THEM THERE. Asking WHY is not dishonouring the troops- it is a testament that people care enough to ask, and question why their loved ones are no longer with them.


The only reason you are sick of this argument is because it goes against your liberal politicians whom agree with your socialist agenda.
Even though you have seen the people in question saying the exact samething that Bush said.
Just because it doesn't fit your idealism you reject it has not happening.
You close your mind off and say ole I am tired of that argument.
So the liberal congressmen have no brains to find out the facts of the matter they are trusting sheep.
I would replace them with thinking congressmen (Republicans) whom can think for themselves.
 timden
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Msg: 266 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Has a Fat Head and Slanders Her Child's Name
Posted: 11/28/2005 11:39:41 AM
One more thing I am glad it is volunteer. I don't want some burn out who don't want to be there covering our fighting soldiers back when going gets tough.
No keep those little congress boys home safe where they belong
 timden
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Msg: 265 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Has a Fat Head and Slanders Her Child's Name
Posted: 11/28/2005 11:37:44 AM
Look it is a volunteer army. If I want to sign up then I sign up if not oh well.

Pat Tillman was a pro football player who gave up 3 Million dollar contract to go fight for his country.
Remember this life is not cut out for everybody
 timden
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Msg: 263 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Has a Fat Head and Slanders Her Child's Name
Posted: 11/28/2005 11:34:17 AM
Here is Casey Sheehans bio. Sounds to me like a stand up Guy. Shame on his mother




Army Specialist Casey Sheehan - Someone You Should (Have) Know(n)
Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church's youth group for years.

When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop.

He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training - a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field.
Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.

Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment.

On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al'Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way - even other Shi'ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army.

American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al'Sadr's quarters.

On April 4th, 2004, al'Sadr's Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City - some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles.

A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble.


Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers - their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops.

Casey Sheehan's Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports (and according to his own mother), Casey responded, "Where my Chief goes, I go."

The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had.

Sheehan's vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire.

Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed.

A second QRF was formed - all volunteers - to go rescue the first. Specialist Ahmed Cason was hit in the second QRF - but kept fighting until he bled to death.

Seven men died with Casey Sheehan on Sunday, April 4th, 2004.

They were Spc. Robert R. Arsiaga, Spc. Ahmed Cason, Sgt. Yihjyh L. "Eddie" Chen, Spc. Stephen D. Hiller, Spc. Israel Garza, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, and Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell.

It was Palm Sunday.

Palm Sunday commemorates the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem. Back then, the palm frond was a symbol of victory - laid beneath the feet of those of the highest honor and triumph. Some believe it was this honor fit for a king that forced Jesus's enemies to act and crucify him.

In recognition of Casey, the Catholic Chapel at Fort Hood, Texas (where Sheehan was stationed) named the Knights of Columbus chapter the "Casey Austin Sheehan Council".

Casey also received the Bronze Star for his Valor that day.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 262 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Has a Fat Head and Slanders Her Child's Name
Posted: 11/28/2005 11:27:12 AM
Again we take an oath when we enlist "To defend the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic" I am sure Casey had to take that oath.
It is a volunteer military, he did not have to go in. If mother Sheehan was so concerned, she must of convayed those thoughts to Casey.
What wrong information are you talking.
Clinton said the same thing as Bush
Kerry said the same thing as Bush
Hillary said the same thing as Bush
Also Sadam ignored 12 UN resolutions.
They all preached the same thing using the same message. However, you want to blame Bush because he does not agree with your liberal causes.
 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 247 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 7:56:00 AM
Of course communism failed, however in the50 thru 80s USSR was doing everything it could to spread communism. Because it kept power in the hands of the government not in the hands of the people.
Russia Mikhail Gorbachev finally seen communism and trying to out spend US in defense was a losing cause for his country.
Now USSR has split into many democratic countries and the great USSR is dead.
Why because we would not let communism get a foot hold in other countries. All people should be free not just Americans, and Canadians and I hope no matter how much it upsets you that America never gives up this dream even if we have to take over every country ran by a crazy dictator on this earth.

 timden
Joined: 10/11/2005
Msg: 245 (view)
 
Cindy Sheehan Right or Wrong?
Posted: 11/28/2005 7:15:24 AM
Martia b

The same as you are doing today. This is an unjust war our young soldiers are dying in a political war. Same old tired BS all liberals spew forth. You identified the soldiers as tools of the US Government. Again as Proven liberals always get it wrong
The draft dodgers in Canada, Jane Fonda in North Vietnam, Berkley protest, and Kent State all aiding and abetting the enemy. Have some guts stand up for America or leave there are plenty of socialists countries.

That war did more to halt the spread of communism than most other wars combined.

Dear here is some songs to keep you liberal spirits up

26 KUM BY YA (COME BY HERE)




Kum by ya, my Lord, kum by ya,

Kum by ya, my Lord, kum by ya,

Kum by ya, my Lord, kum by ya,

Oh Lord!

Kum by ya.



Someone's crying Lord, kum by ya,

(x3) Oh Lord! Kum by ya.















Michael, row the boat ashore,
Hallelujah.
Michael, row the boat ashore,
Hallelujah.
Sister, help to trim the sails,
Hallelujah.
Sister, help to trim the sails,
Hallelujah.
River Jordan's deep and wide,
Hallelujah.
Milk and honey on the other side,
Hallelujah.
River Jordan's chilly and cold,
Hallelujah.
Chills the body, but warms the soul,
Hallelujah.

 
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