I still haven't seen a single verse that have been quoted from their Koran by anyone here where it says to kill anyone who has converted to other religions. I am still waiting and hopefully see if there is a smart one out there who has that verse for me.

Please read my post again. I was speaking of people who think that only Countries where Sharia Law exists reflect the reality of Islam.

Somehow I doubt that a Muslim, living in Toronto, who wanted to convert to Christianity, would be killed. Or Hong Kong, or any one of a dozen countries that have Muslims and Islam.

But I don't think that those tactics are necessarily what Sharia Law intended. Nor do I believe that all Muslims follow those interpretations.

Sharia Law is governed by the rules of the Quran. ..right?
SO WHERE, IN THE RULES OF THE QURAN, DOES IT SAY TO KILL A CONVERT?????

Afghanistan's constitution is based on Shariah law, which states that any Muslim who rejects their religion should be sentenced to death.

"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam. ... The prosecutor is asking for the death penalty."

I am not here to answer your baseless and personal opinions. It is a forum for discussion and if you are intelligent enough and have enough knowledge, challenge me with the answers (check out the challenge I put in the post above) with all your "might" and "Power" and then you will be out of my ignore list.

If i was to make decsisions based on a violent minority, I would have installed metal detectors at the front door and patted down every kid in the hallways of every school after Columbine.

And, there are no crimes on record, that I could find, of a Sihk using a kirpan in the commission of a crime.

Isn't the Athame a ritual tool, as opposed to a symbolic item? Aren't all religious symbols, and clothes, allowed in Canadian schools?

A two sentence judgment based on ignorance that contains an alarming number of spelling and grammatical errors. You're right...BAN THE KNIEVES!! (what's a knieve?)

Right, how dare he continue to try to prove his point, as you do with yours. (isn't that why we're all screwing around on these forums?)

On an aside, how do you deal with the whole Burning Bush voice of God thing in the Bible? And I'm actually curious about that.

I sort of agree with Pman in that the Qu'ran (which is the only voice of God, all other texts being written by Man)

Can any of you point me to where it says sharia law is opposed to democracy"

like I said I am comfortable relying on the muslims organisations who challenged the use of sharia law because it is discriminitory against women.....that is fundmental flaw that goes directly against a democratic process...

That is your own assumptions as usual. I don't back up regimes. We are talking religion here, not countries. Brighten up.

Then stopping assuming that my statements refer to their regimes. The point is that we are talking society, culture and religion, not politics. So as as far as I am concerned, I point out the facts to distinguish what is culture and what is religion and how to differentiate them.

The laws should be that when you come to this country no matter what colour you are you adopt to our way of life...that means check your turbins, robes, kirpans or whatever the hell it is at the front door to our country, if you don't like it you can go back home and continue to live in fear.

if it were not for immigration, Canada would be relatively empty.

yes, you're right, many ancient religous texts do seem to encourage the misreatment of women....Christian, Muslim, and Jewish. The difference is, in the western world, we have long ago stopped living by these texts as law.

I checked it out. Pretty interesting stuff :))

Two questions:

1. What's sharia law in your opinion?
2. Would you want to live under sharia law?

- Solak

No. I have read the article thoroughly. You just copied and pasted one statement that supported your opinion and forget about the rest. Let's see the rest of them here:

Provide us a verse from the Koran where it says to kill someone who converted. If you can't, then it is your own narrow view and your whole point is baseless

....people in the third world have so many children who have no choice but to be a muslim. In these same Countries, Muslims are killed if they convert to Christianity.

And just for statistical fun, Islam is one of the two fastest growing religions in the world. And only 15% of them are Arabic... Makes you wonder who else is coverting doesn't

The Koran rejects every single point you make. I keep on repeating the same thing to you over and over again. Just head to the church and indulge in some child molestation.

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You are one rude individual


So are you.

The Koran rejects every single point you make. I keep on repeating the same thing to you over and over again. Just head to the church and indulge in some child molestation.

The confusion is that there are two realities. One in Pman's head and another what's actually taking place in Middle East day to day.

You haven't travelled and seen them in practice and nor have you participated in any of their countries in different parts of the world. You are unable to distinguish between what is culture and religion. You don't recognize any of the groups and factions and nor do know what their belief system is and how it works. You don't even know the most important thing, which is Koran is the primary source of Islam, Hadiths and Narrations come second only if it is compatible with Koran. So that tells me alot as far as your knowledge about Islam.

It is impossible to find four witness if something is being done secretly, so yet again I repeat it may not be possible to find four witnesses unless there is four people during the time it happened and they have all seen it in their own eyes. With all the technology we have over here, I don't think we have had alot of cases where there were four "Eye Witnesses".

I don't have time to waste with someone who has no background knowledge and only copies and pastes from different internet sites. And I am pretty sure you have got no Koran in your hand right now because you don't even know Arabic to be able to know what it is talking about. All you do is go on some sites and copy and paste. A laughing stock. hehehhee.

You keep on showing us how smart you are by copying and pasting verses. If you keep on doing that, you keep on going down 'cause the verses you quote talk about something else and because you lack knowledge in Islam, you are only a woman

Provide us verses for the following from their Koran that you say is the source of Sharia law:

1. Verse where it violates people's rights
2. Verse that violates women.
3. Forcing women into marriage of slavery
4. No free will.

Get back to kindergarten. This is what I said. You need further education. Your reading skills are really weak. I forgot to mention the American part. You are "American" by the way. Very high values there. lol. I have heard that the thug life has started in America, is that correct? If you got nothing else in your pocket to contribute here, just sit and watch.

Look at the profile: A four-legged animal sounds better than this crap:

You sound like an illiterate to me.

who give you the right to ask such questions? Didn't you read my profile already? You got a sister slave that I could take out for dinner and bang?

The muslims in Canada are different to the ones over there...