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 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Confidence
Posted: 2/4/2012 7:39:04 PM

when does confidence give way to arrogance.


Does it really matter?

People are judged on their merits as individuals.

Confidence and arrogance aren't quantifiable and aren't necessarily linked. Some of the least confident people are arrogant, and some of the most confident aren't arrogant in the slightest.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 26 (view)
 
1 New Message in inbox,but no new messages
Posted: 2/4/2012 12:15:52 PM

That being said, I am really surprised that anyone would post such unfounded accusations about a site that they are being given the privilege of participating on. Like Trappedonbayst I would really like to see documentation to back up these statements.

In closing, just my 2 cents but I think more likely than not, assumptions like this are based on either user error or incomprehension of how features really work. Bottom line the answer to everything is not always a conspiracy and/or a scam and I would not be surprised in the least if admin took a hard stand on users spreading such unfounded facts as truths.


'Unfounded'?

What proof do you want? The fact that this site thrives on traffic should be enough. How else does this site make money from members who don't pay a bean?

Why should it bother you that I and possibly thousands of others are experiencing this?

I didn't claim it to be a scam or a conspiracy, so please don't infer that I did. I said it was a con to get us to log in to our mail.

OED con: persuade (someone) to do or believe something by lying to them.

The site is persuading me to do something by falsely stating that I have an unread email.

I do not use words that I don't know the meaning of. I know that some find that an irritating state of affairs, but I find that it stands me in good stead whatever the situation.

If the site isn't conning us into opening our mail-boxes, then why isn't it attending to the problem?

The site knows when I log on. The site knows when I log off. The site knows when I'm not logged on. The site knows when I post. The site knows when I edit my posts. The site knows when I am serving a ban, and knows to the second when that ban will end. The site knows who I have added as a favourite. The site knows who has added me. The site knows who I wish to meet and who wishes to meet me. The site knows when I have reported someone via their profile. The site knows who I have viewed and contacted. The site knows that I set my options to let those I have viewed know that I viewed them. The site knows my IP address. The site knows my mail settings. The site knows I have uploaded images, and that I've reached the maximum number of those images. The site knows when 20 days has expired so as to delete old read emails. The site knows when I've read an email, and the site knows to reduce the number of unread emails by the number of them that I've read IF that number is greater than one.

The site knows a great deal about me and my account..........yet it doesn't know that I don't have any unread emails.

Funny, that.......
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 24 (view)
 
1 New Message in inbox,but no new messages
Posted: 2/4/2012 9:38:50 AM
I haven't altered my cookie settings once since I acquired a new pc using windows7 in April.

I have had this problem only once before several years ago, and it lasted for a single log-in.

This time, it has lasted after clearing the cache.

I access the site by the same method evert time, via my bookmarked pages showing the main forum page. Should I decide to comment, I have to log-in to the forums, like everyone else, and once I have posted and returned to the UK forums page, it clearly shows that I have one message without me having logged in to my mauil. On logging-in to my emails, I can see that there are no unread emails.

I have also tried emailing myself and deleting (it was the mass email for my latest hosting) and that didn't cure the problem. Changing browser from firefox to IE didn't affect anything, either.

It's not the end of the world, but it is slightly annoying given that my email counter is claerly functioning as fara s adding and subtracting, but it is set at 'one', not zero. ie if I have three unread emails, the site tells me I have four., and one reading three of them, I still show as having one unread.

I accept that I'm pc-illiterate, so I would welcome any dumbed-down suggestions for fixing it.

Thanks for your input, Trappy, and my comments were aimed at the site in general.




 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 22 (view)
 
1 New Message in inbox,but no new messages
Posted: 2/4/2012 7:59:45 AM
It's just another con from the site. Basically, it is getting people to log-in to their mail for no other reason than to increase site traffic.

Proof? Ok, when it shows that I have three messages and I open the box to see that I really only have two, I will read one and log out. I'm showing as having two messages, which means the site has acknowledged that I've read one of the three and it's reduced the number accordingly.

So if the site can count down from three to two, why can't it count down from two to one, then from one to zero?

Simple - it's a con!
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Nice Guys vs Good guys with a lil' devil inside
Posted: 2/3/2012 2:54:40 AM

I hate Alpha males, who muscle up at the gym and shave their heads...ewwwww


That isn't what an alpha male is, actually.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-alpha-male.htm
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Bad experience,
Posted: 2/3/2012 2:51:31 AM

Ive lost count of the number of dates i've been on and i've known from the first look they were not "my type" but because i'm a decent human being with morals and an appreciation of other peoples feelings.....


Thanks for the chuckle!


Steer clear of beautiful (ugly) women in future.


Sound advice.

Such women tend to to be so far up themselves, they don't walk, they move like a hula-hoop.


Then to my shock horror i recieved a txt message which said 'Sorry your not my type'


So she had the manners to tell you and apologise for not meeting up.

I don't see the problem. You weren't what she expected in the looks department despite having seen pictures of you.

Hmm....were you entirely honest in the pictures you sent?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Message Issue HELP
Posted: 2/2/2012 10:22:12 AM

Delete any message in your inbox and it should fix it.



Try clearing internet cache in ur browser


I did both of the above.........still showing One New message, but no new message is there.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Nice Guys vs Good guys with a lil' devil inside
Posted: 2/2/2012 8:33:23 AM
These women who claim to like 'bad boys' amuse me, because they are clearly happy to date someone who might:

1) Shag their sister and/or mother, then wonder why they make a 'fuss' about it.
2) fail to turn up for dates.
3) insist on doing *that* in the bedroom.
4) abuse them in some way
5) treat them with disrespect
6) harm their pets
7) be a total tw@t

Good luck to such women, but let them moan about such things to those who actually give a damn.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Your First Road Fine?
Posted: 2/1/2012 11:09:49 AM

My error was going in a bus lane, was it my fault? Of course it was.


I know.


When I blamed my sat-nav is was nothing but a mere joke which you failed to realise.


Oh, so we have to 'realise' that a statement is meant to be funny?

The usual response is to laugh.


I think you're blowing this 'error' way out of proportion.


Written by the man who based a thread upon it.


"The law states" is what you said earlier. So now you're contradicting yourself.


I never contradict myself.

Place the two statements which you think are contradictory side by side , and I'll show you that you're wrong.


You're one of those people (I'm assuming) who create arguments just for an argument.


And what if I am? It's none of your business, and certainly not for discussion on the forums unless I decide so.

OK?


You can't tell me to abide by the law ...


I didn't, so don't accuse me of doing so.

Perhaps you're paying as much attention to my posts as you do to the road?


when you think it's ok to do 200mph down a motorway.


At no point have I make such a claim.

Perhaps you're paying as much attention to my posts as you do to the road?


If you're over-taking vehicles by going stupidly high speeds, then you're the danger to other road users.


I fully agree.

However, 99% of those I overtake are doing less than the speed limit, and are usually moving at little more than walking pace.

But knowing so much about me, you already knew that, didn't you?




the bus would've just driven into the back of the car...


Aye...if she was reversing up the bus lane in the wrong direction.

She claimed to have driven the wrong way up a bus lane.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Your First Road Fine?
Posted: 2/1/2012 4:51:02 AM

Whether I had a sat-nav or not, I would have probably made the same mistake. When I am driving, I am looking at my surroundings, people crossing the road, traffic lights, etc...Being my first time driving in Leeds (in my opinion) isn't easy. Road signs are very easily miss-able. I’ve been driving 4 years in March and this will be my first offense. I have a feeling, if I had in fact gotten a fine for speeding, you wouldn’t have bothered replying.

But I still don't understand what your issue is like I said earlier. This isn't a post to let your personal grudges out on me. You've probably been hit while driving your motorbike and you have a personal vendetta against drivers.


I wasn't aware of any venetta against you. I saw that you were one of those drivers who doesn't apply his attention to the task in hand, and who blames everything but himself for his errors.

Leeds is a nightmare to drive round, or it was until I had spent six months riding around there in the late 1980s. It was very easy after that. I returned two years ago and realised they'd changed large parts of the central traffic system which meant that again I had to rely on his wits to negotiate the place.

Going to somewhere strange and complicated requires the driver's full attention, and it should not lead to ending up in a bus lane especially if the driver claims "When I am driving, I am looking at my surroundings, people crossing the road, traffic lights, etc.".


I have a feeling, if I had in fact gotten a fine for speeding, you wouldn’t have bothered replying.


It depends on the circumstances. Doing 50MPH up The Headrow is madness, but doing 100MPH at 2am is no big deal.

I don't have a problem with 99.99999999999999999999% of road users. I overtake around 100,000 vehicles a week, and rarely encounter difficulties.


I've been in an unknown area and ended up going the wrong way up a bus only section of a road andwaited for the fixed penalty to drop through my letterbox...I was lucky, it didn't come....


You're also lucky that a bus didn't come.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 17 (view)
 
The Wrestler (film) About the ending
Posted: 1/31/2012 2:14:57 PM
I assumed that he had died, but I liked the way we weren't shown........not quite The Italian Job ending, but it worked for me.

My lady-friend sobbed her eyes out...


But if you're gonna die, why not do it in the ring? Its a fitting end for a wrestler.


Too many have, despite the obvious fakery.

I once trained at Alan Dennison's gym near Keighley - he was a sad loss.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 19 (view)
 
E cigarettes
Posted: 1/31/2012 12:47:48 PM

thats what i said i did say they were told to stop stop smoking them or leave.


You *asked* if we thought the Landlord was right to ask them to stop or leave the venue, but you *said* in the pre-amble to your question:



It said in local paper today that a women and her daughter celebrating a family occasion who were smoking e cigarettes were asked to leave the bar .


That statement was incorrect.


Come on seriously, we all know these people "smoke" these things as a defiant middle fingers up to the smoking ban and all non-smokers.


Really?

I thought they did it to try and look 'cool'.......sucking on a plastic tube is right up there with nose-picking and belching.........isn't it?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Your First Road Fine?
Posted: 1/31/2012 12:34:41 PM

You quoted me and you still failed to read "listening to my sat-nav".


I saw that bit. I also saw the bit that you claimed you were multitasking by driving and listening at the same time. Can't you do both competently at the same time?

I also saw the bit that implied that you couldn't look at road-markings whilst driving and listening to your satnav:


......and they expect me to look at the floor markings


Obviously my comment about you listening with your eyes was flippant, but your main priority whilst driving is to ensure the safety of yourself and others by maintaining your concentration on the job in hand. Your satnav is merely a navigational aid, not a safety feature, and being distracted by it is no different from peering at a map on the passenger seat.

So, the law states that your first priority is to maintain control over your vehicle. This also entails observing any warning signs. You claim that you failed to notice that you were in a bus lane, which means that you also failed to see the signs for it.

You admit that the roads in Leeds are complicated, yet you failed to maintain sufficient concentration.

You blamed your satnav for you being in a bus lane - how was your satnav to blame?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 7 (view)
 
E cigarettes
Posted: 1/31/2012 5:40:41 AM
They weren't asked to leave if it's this story:

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9502336.Mother_shocked_at_electric_cigarette_ban/

"Cherry Knott, 59, of Kingsway West in Acomb, York, was celebrating her birthday with her daughter, son and his partner in Yates’s in Lower Ousegate, when they were approached by a member of staff who asked them to stop using the e-cigarettes or to leave the venue. "

They were given a choice by the venue, and they chose to leave.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Your First Road Fine?
Posted: 1/31/2012 5:29:49 AM
I'm driving whilst listening to a sat-nav. I'm already multi-tasking and they expect me to look at the floor markings?!?!


So you use your eyes to listen?

I suggest you're a danger to other road-users.


City centres can be very confusing with so much signage all over the place, plus you have to cope with other cars who do know where they're going getting frustrated with you for driving slowly and looking lost, if you looked out for and took in every single sign/marking you'd be paying hardly any attention to the road


Road traffic law insistes that most of our attention is directed to the signs and road markings, as well as other vehilcles etc. Going to a strange place and failing to observe these whilst admitting to staring at a sat nav is irresponsible.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Your First Road Fine?
Posted: 1/31/2012 5:21:30 AM
Your Satnav isn't responsible in any way for you failing to disobey instructions.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Suggestion for Quoting
Posted: 1/31/2012 3:05:45 AM
Isn't it obvious why your idea received no support?

These are forums for discussing the ideas of others, and not just the OP of each thread.

And some people will have heard of speech marks.........
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 174 (view)
 
Stephen Lawrence
Posted: 1/30/2012 4:13:43 PM

It goes on to defend the use of the n word as well
an i stopped reading at this objective point


And I suppose you didn't bother to read the bits that explained the writer's view on the word?

Did you not see:

"Macpherson spells the word Negro in lower case, which might just be construed as offensive in a purely grammatical sense, but it is doubtful if the members of either the Universal Negro Improvement Association or the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People would consider either of these words offensive in their proper contexts. In the West, the word coloured refers to non-whites in general, with particular reference to blacks and Asians. In South Africa it means something more specific. Although it may be unfashionable, even antiquated, the word Negro is a perfectly correct term and no more offensive than the phrase "white Caucasian". Until Malcolm X began referring to "the so-called Negro", (7) most American blacks were happy to call themselves Negroes. And ironically, the word , which is most definitely an offensive term, is used far more freely by blacks, particularly in the States, than by any so-called white racists. "

But you admit to reading that the Lawrences had approached the ARA:

"That campaign had many prongs, but the people who led it for the most part were the victim’s parents: Neville and Doreen. In the early days they conducted this campaign with dignity and restraint, and sought to keep it within a narrow remit and not to allow it to be exploited by people with political and racial agendas. In September 1993, they wrote to Marc Wadsworth and Palma Black of the Anti-Racist Alliance to dissociate themselves publicly from that organisation. The ARA had sent out statements in the family’s name without their permission. The Lawrences who had initially welcomed their support wrote "To our dismay we found that the political agendas and rivalries of different organisations began to take over the meetings." "

The ARA claims:

"We work to undo structural racism ...."

The ARA was involved from the start of the campaign for 'justice' - why was that? Why did Noreen have any contact whatsoever with an organisation that has a racist agenda?

And I cannot believe the Lawrence's claim to have been unaware of the derogatory language used to describe black people.


Pretty sure the words and the desires expressed by them in the video were so odious that even fellow racists wish to distance them from them ...what's your view?


I would suspect that given that racists use such terms, many won't have turned a hair at the language heard in the video, but that some would have objected to the murderous intent expressed.


Its a hatchet job and as far from objective as it is possible to get.


By your own admission, you failed to read three-quarters of it, so I suggest that you refrain from commenting upon matters that you clearly have no knowledge.

I'm not sure how many hatchet-jobs express sympathy for their intented victim, but you are free to question any of the points/facts raised about the article......once you've bothered to read it.



Oh, and you 'forgot' to deal with Noreen's racist comments........funny that. Can't black people be racist?


I'm not surprised to see that there's going to be an appeal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16795824

Although, I thought it would be about the forensic evidence put forward, rather than the surveillance tapes.

I think that with the way this case was handled, an appeal was inevitable.


The article says:

"Norris' lawyer said the appeal will be based on the grounds that about two thirds of the way through the trial what had been a scientific case about forensic evidence became a case about a surveillance video of the men.

He told BBC home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds this was unfair, because the case was about scientific evidence and the video could not prove he was at the scene of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

The police surveillance video, shot over several days in December 1994, showed the pair using racist language while they interacted with various friends and acquaintances. "

This explains why the defence did not raise any objection to the video being shown and discussed during the trial. If it had objected during the trial, and the judge subsequently upheld that objection, then the video would have been struck from the records and not palyed to the jury. There would have been no grounds for an appeal should the pair be found guilty.

Having said that, the fact that the Daily Mail named these men should have meant a fair trial was impossible without new evidence.

The prosecution might have shot itself in the foot by showing that video. I am unaware if they can be retried should their appeal be successful.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 445 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independence ?
Posted: 1/30/2012 3:46:30 PM

It’s a fair enough question, but it is a fair enough answer to point out examples of now independent countries keeping the UK Queen as Head of State, Australia being one such example. Its lame to ask it then not expect those examples to be brought up.


Australia never became independent, which is why I was confused as to why it was used as an analogy.

The Crown retains certain powers there.


Ancestry and nationality doesn’t necessarily have any significance on being King or Queen. William the C, Sweyn Forkbeard and Cnute were Kings of England, though they were from elsewhere.


Hence my questioning of the relevance of the Queen's ancestry to the Scottish referendum.

I'm still waiting for a response from the poster who mentioned it.


I'm just worried the English will scupper it like they did the last attempt by careful use of percentages (ok, scuppered actually by a Scot MP in an English constituency that dreamt up how to make it impossible)


To which 'English' are you referring?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 88 (view)
 
Weighty Issue
Posted: 1/30/2012 7:20:35 AM

We still have many of the same life issues regardless of whether we are fat or slimmer, it's a myth that weight loss leads to instant happiness.


Exactly!

I wonder how many people have shed the lard only to discover that their personality was the real obstacle to finding a partner, not their weight.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 53 (view)
 
What are your plans when the Olympics come to London this summer?
Posted: 1/30/2012 7:01:57 AM

.it has nothing to do with the sight of a bunch of half naked bikini clad women dripping in sweat and jumping around with there tits bouncing up and down and there buttocks wobbling all over the place.for me..its the sport i enjoy.its a very noble game.


And having freeze-frame on the HD box will mean that every skillful moment can be 'admired' in all its glory.......
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 440 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/30/2012 6:20:31 AM

never ever trust nationalists, after all the wee German man who invaded Poland was a staunch nationalist.


Come on the Internationalists...........


Don't make the mistake of thinking that 'internationalist' is the direct opposite of 'nationalist'. It is possible to be both AND be a jolly decent fellow.

An internationalist is one who advocates cooperation and understanding between nations, and a nationalist is one who advocates political independence for a country.

Here are some nationalists:

Vaclac Havel.

Nelson Mandela.

Barak Obama.

Pretty nasty, untrustworthy people, right?

And here's some Internationist political parties:

B*P:

"At the same time, a BNP government will strive for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours. The nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial without being forced into a straightjacket of political and economic unification — which is neither desirable, ultimately practically unfeasible and which is guaranteed to create conflict rather than avoid it. "

UKIP:

"We do not want or need to become a province in a European Superstate but instead want friendly and mutually beneficial trade and cultural cooperation with our EU neighbours."

They seem OK to me.......



The SNP are an inclusive, tolerant and multiculturally diverse party who work for, and represent, all the peoples of Scotland regardless of their ethnic origins and are against everything that the heinous racists of the BNP, UKIP and the EDL stand for.....


If any of those organaisations were 'racist', they would be proscribed.

They aren't , so they're not.


What if the Shetland island or Orkney or any other island decide that they want independEnce from Scotland?


Good point.

I'll be interested to see the Goggle-Eyed One's proposals for internal independence, especially with any areas of Scotland which choose to remain within the UK or outside of the EU.
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Deleting rather then Editing your own Forum Entries
Posted: 1/29/2012 3:24:22 PM

By finding the topic on a list that doesn't show what forum it's in, and not thinking to check once you click on it.


And which lists on here don't say which forum a particular thread is on?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 6 (view)
 
London Vs Everywhere else!
Posted: 1/29/2012 2:28:05 PM

Why are strangers in London pubs/bars ignored?


They aren't, always, although I do accept that Londoners (and by that I mean people who go out in London) can be insular and dismissive. It all depends on the circumstances.

Walk alone into a bar around Denmark Street with a guitar case, and somebody will say 'hi' even if it's only to the case.

Walk into a bar on Old Compton Street with a bushy 'tache' and some bloke will ask what you feel about The Ar-senal, though it's not always football related.......

Central pubs/bars are not the best places to meet up with strangers, because those places aren't 'locals'. Try near where you live, and go when the footy is on (even if you hate the sport) .
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Deleting rather then Editing your own Forum Entries
Posted: 1/29/2012 2:10:56 PM
How does one road-trip 'accidentally'?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 170 (view)
 
Stephen Lawrence
Posted: 1/29/2012 1:21:45 PM

Couldn't give a toss... they haven't answered which speaks volumes..


Perhaps they have a life, or don't wish to respond to troll posts or posters who have an agenda, especially if it's a racist troll?

There are many reasons why people won't answer those questions, but why I haven't bothered is because my answers largely appear in the thread, and if you are soooooo bothered about having them answered, then get trawling through it.

I agree that:


Do you deny the murder of Steven Lawrence?


is a bit silly. In fact, it's more than that. It's a reference to Holocaust Denial, and it seeks to link an appauling racist act of genocide with the death of some bloke in sarf Lahndahn.

I cannot believe that there is anyone who has heard of Lawrence will 'deny' that he was murdered, so why ask the bloody question in the first place?

Do I detect 'agenda'?



I have asked them to state positively that they DO have compassion for this black kid, if they have political beliefs which prevent them from doing so, they will not, because they do not feel such things...


Or they can see right through you, or they haven't read your post, or they have already answered........as I have.

Funny how you've plainly read lots of posts in which people have questioned the way the case has been discussed (which is of massive relevance to all of us) yet plainly failed to spot the bits that plainly answer your questions. That smacks of blatantly ignoring posts that don't suit your agenda.

Has anyone said they are pleased that he died? I've already had to quote myself to one troll on here - do I have to repeat that?

As for his family, have you ignored the blatant racism of his mother towards the whites? Have you not seen her pictured with various black/non-white public figures?

Did you read this link about Noreen?

http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/drop-dead-doreen-lawrence-text.html

Doesn't paint her in too good a light, does it?

And neither does her "Britain doesn't deserve him" comment. It was a racist comment about the Brits, and a similar post about them was removed from the site for its racist comment only yesterday.

If Britain doesn't deserve him, then why is she still here? We are apparently such nasty racists, and she is free to bugger off any time she chooses.

And if we are such nasty racists, why did she choose to live in a massively white area? Wasn't Peckham more to her taste, or is there one obvious problem with that hell-hole that even the Lawrence family had spotted?



"I dont think anyone on here has personal involvement"
What are you psychic? Are you friends with them? Do you know what they think?


I've read the posts....I've not seen any such posts. So why ask the question?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 436 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/29/2012 12:05:00 PM

It wasn’t the OP that started the issue of the Queen off in message 399


Correct......the OP did not write MSG 399, because it was written by me, and I'm not the OP.

My question was aimed at all those who are able to post on the UK forums.

The matter of the Queen remaining as Head of State was bound to arise on a thread devoted to the Scottish referendum, and was raised as early as MSG 49, a post that you obviously failed to read:



In one of the few pieces of clarity that have emerged from Mr. Salmond regarding an Independent Scotland he has confirmed that the Union of the crowns would be unaffected and the Queen would remain Head of State – though of course she would be Queen Elizabeth the First of Scotland...........

Scotland's Future: Draft Referendum (Scotland) Bill Consultation
1.19 Her Majesty The Queen would remain as Head of State. The current parliamentary and political Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland would become a monarchical and social Union – united kingdoms rather than a United Kingdom – maintaining a relationship forged in 1603 by the Union of the Crowns.


Sorry, what was your point?




The Australians and Candians amongst others, independent nations have no problem in defying Zeegary logic keeping her as Head of State.



Since reading that comment, I've trawled the internet and learned that there are at least three obvious retards, two complete morons, and a bloke who follows Leicester City who know that the Queen is their Head Of State.

The question of 'logic' didn't arise - it is a fact.

If you don't think it's a fact, I could could give you links to six other people who have greater knowledge than you, apparently.



If you are going to make a song and dance about how the Head of State of England can be Head of State of an independent Scotland, then you are leaving the door open with tea and biscuits laid out on a table, for someone to bring up the Queen’s Germanic ancestral roots.


I didn't make a song and dance about, and I didn't raise her ancestry, either. In fact, I haven't expressed an opinion on her remaining as Scotlan's Head of State. You admitted reading MSG 399. Here it is again:


"And why retain the Queen as Head of State?"

Note the question mark. Shall I ask those three retards if they know what a question mark is?

Oh, and the Queen's ancestry is as relevant to the question of her remaining as Head of State for an independent Scotland as the fact that she was born in 1927 and has a vagina, because SHE ALREADY IS SCOTLAND'S HEAD OF STATE.

OK?
 zeegary
Joined: 9/25/2008
Msg: 433 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/29/2012 4:10:45 AM

you can ask the Aussies the same question


I could, but why would I?

The question was asked of the OP after he brought up the Queen's nationality into his question on the Scottish referendum. It has no bearing or relevance to the topic, especially as she is not only already the Queen of Scotland, but also is as British as he.
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Msg: 52 (view)
 
Weighty Issue
Posted: 1/28/2012 8:40:05 AM

One thing I have found is that most men haven't got a clue when it comes to size. I wonder what they think the average size for a female is?


Isn't it somewhere between 'chubby' and 'dobber'?
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Msg: 7 (view)
 
KARAOKE AT THE BLUE LAGOON, HOVE (actually) SATURDAY 28th JANUARY 2012
Posted: 1/28/2012 8:34:45 AM
Well, folks, the hour is upon us!



I trust you have all made your arrangements for travel, accommodation, and 'stuff'?

Safe journey, and have a wonderful evening!

I'll be the one wearing earplugs as I sing.





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Msg: 44 (view)
 
Weighty Issue
Posted: 1/28/2012 6:46:50 AM

......i dont find skinny guys attractive anyway....


Just because you don't like their lack of flesh?

Fair comment.......so why say this:


apparently cos im a bigger girl men dont seem to want to see past that to find that i am a nice person.


You claim that men judge you purely on your size whilst admitting to doing exactly the same.
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Msg: 426 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/28/2012 6:17:00 AM

That's for them to decide but as far as I'm concerned they're as Scottish/British/Asian/European in nationality as they want to be.

My point was that if Scotland were to retain the Queen as head of state it wouldn't be a case of adopting the English monarchy. The joint monarchy exists because James VI of Scotland inherited the throne of England and is as much Scottish as it is English. At various times though a foreign born monarch has at some point taken over the throne. William of Orange being another example.


That's for them to decide?

Fair comment........


..........so why did you question the Queen's nationality?

Why ask:


Besides, isn't Liz Saxe-Coburg Germany anyway?


You clearly believe that the Queen is German. She has no connection to Germany.

And what has her family's ancestry got to do with her remaining as Head Of State for Scotland?
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Msg: 164 (view)
 
Stephen Lawrence
Posted: 1/27/2012 7:43:29 PM

@ x-audax-at-fidelis-x
Do you have any sympathy or compassion for Steven Lawrence or his family?
Do you have some personal involvement with the case?
Do you deny the murder of Steven Lawrence?
Do you see the whole case as a deliberate hoax to advance left-wing, multicultural interests in this country, ie. a Steven lawrence murder denier?
Just curious...


And what makes you curious?

The poster has clearly outlined his concerns about the case, and yet you seem unable to discuss those concerns. Instead, you've focussed on his personal feelings.

Would he be justified in enquiring as to why a person on a dating site looking for dates shows only half of her face?


Blimey, so many people here posting know so much better than all the experts, the judge and the jury,

I ask again,did anyone attend the trial and hear what the judge and jury heard? And not just going on what the media have put out there?


You've read the posts, and you STILL had to ask those questions?

I would say that you wouldn't understand their answers.
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Msg: 422 (view)
 
Should Jason Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/27/2012 4:57:43 PM

Yes since devolution all of the administrative framework is already in place. It would just be a matter of transferring the powers that are currently reserved to Westminster. There are already HMRC and DWP offices in Scotland that (with some staff retraining) would take over the functions of these government departments and it wouldn't really differ from the way the devolved NHS was created.


You claimed the Queen was German.

Are the offspring of Asians who are born in Scotland British or Asian?

It's a simple question, yet you haven't answered.
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Msg: 5 (view)
 
30,000......
Posted: 1/27/2012 4:54:01 PM

....new singles evryday join this site.(so it says when i come to log in),erm,is that not ironic?so dating ,relationships are useless?,well if i needed another knock on confidence,this is it!.


So why do you keep returning?

You obviously feel bad after being thrown out of Slayer, but Jeez do we really need to see your angst every time we log on here?
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Msg: 414 (view)
 
Should Jason Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/27/2012 8:49:56 AM

You asked the question about retaining the Queen as the Head of State.


No, I didn't.

Check your facts.


The Aussies are a perfectly relevant example and legitimate analogy.


No, they aren't.

The Aussies aren't in the UK, so they cannot be seeking to leave it.

Check your facts.
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Msg: 13 (view)
 
Weighty Issue
Posted: 1/26/2012 3:24:32 PM

As a lady who has and probably will always battle with her weight but is kicking b**t at the gym and shifting it I wonder how much does weight figure in a persons decision to pick a mate is it really that important or not?



Why does this question usually get asked by those who admit they have a weight problem?

I have yet to see a skinny person ask if weight is an issue.

The answer, OP, that it varies in importance according to the individual.

HTH
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Msg: 60 (view)
 
Juror given 6 months for doing her own research.
Posted: 1/25/2012 4:38:02 PM

Please read this and let it sink in...

"nothing had been said in mitigation that convinced the court she should be spared an immediate jail sentence, the judge said. He had "no doubt" that Dallas knew "perfectly
well" the trial judge had directed members of the jury not to seek information from the internet but "deliberately disobeyed the order".

(source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-16676871)

The key words you may want to read in the above sentance are "deliberately" and "seek". I think the judge is a higher authority in this case than you...don't you agree? i think it's pretty well established her intent was infact very deliberate.


The fact that she went on the internet is not in doubt. It is also not in doubt that she sought information on the internet.

However, the claim that she sought information about the defendant has not been made by the court. The information referred to was not claimed to be about the defendant's record.

The key words you may want to read in the above are "deliberately" and "seek". I think the judge is a higher authority in this case than you...don't you agree?

The court accepted that Dallas looked at the internet during the case. It did not claim or establish that she had deliberately sought his history.

All it established was that she had deliberately accessed the internet and discovered information relevant to the case.

Which isn't the same thing as 'deliberately accessing the internet in order to read about his record' as you claim it did.

So your use of the term to describe Dallas's nose size with reference to her 'snooping' has no basis in fact, and it was therefore plainly aimed at the quoted poster.


Whether my presumption of Ms Dallas being nosey was correct or not is irellevant my comment was aimed at the op not the poster i had quoted. How many more times would you like me to say it?


You can say it as often as you like. It won't alter the facts.

Perhaps if you apologised to the poster and refrained in future from making your barbed comments about other posters, that might be a wise course?
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Msg: 57 (view)
 
Juror given 6 months for doing her own research.
Posted: 1/25/2012 2:09:00 PM

I was referring to her proven penchant for sniffing around in the accused's background when she would have been forbidden from doing so. For being "nosey", for trying to sniff out her own facts to present to the jury when that was the job of the prosecution alone.

I have no idea what the woman looks like (She could look like a gnome for all i know) so i could'nt possibly have an opinion on the actual physical size of her nose.


But she DIDN'T have such a penchant for sniffing around the defendant's record.

It was never established that she looked for his details deliberately.

The charge against her was that she HAD accessed details about his past, not that she was looking for them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jan/24/inside-jury-room-theodora-dallas?newsfeed=true

"Here is an edited extract from the judgment delivered by Lord Judge, Lady Justice Hallett and Mr Justice Openshaw"

"[Juror 3] understood that [Dallas] had gone to the court service website and obtained information that the defendant in the trial, Medlock, had previously been involved in some capacity in an offence of rape. According to [Juror 3], [Dallas] said that the website had lots of information about the current case and [Medlock]. It also contains details of the current trial and the barristers involved. As soon as the word rape was spoken, "I could see the faces of the other jurors drop". [Juror 3] said she didn't want to hear it, she didn't think they should take any of it into account. [Dallas] protested that she had obtained the information from the court website and that the information was in the public domain anyway."

"None of this evidence was challenged."

Her defence was that she hadn't understood the charge properly, so that she looked up GBH on the internet. Even someone as plainly stupid as Dallas is knew that a court website might be a good place to look up something concerning the nature of a legal term.

So your use of the term to describe Dallas's nose size with reference to her 'snooping' has no basis in fact, and it was plainly aimed at the quoted poster.
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Msg: 55 (view)
 
Juror given 6 months for doing her own research.
Posted: 1/25/2012 1:27:51 PM

The 'nose' comment is not relevant to the topic,


And your seven lines of off topic nonsense is? I'm surprised at you, flaunting your own rules n'all...... if you had any moral fibre you'd report yourself forthwith.


so it was obviously aimed at the quoted poster.


Think what you like but it wasn't. I can assure you if it was aimed at the quoted poster i would have said it was aimed at the quoted poster in my reply to the to the unnecassary haughty slap on the wrist i received because someone somehow managed to grab the wrong end of a one ended stick.


She specifically ruled out such evidence being introduced by either the public or members of the jury,


At the risk of incurring another round of insomnia curing drivel with more twists than a columbo plot.......What is your point exactly? My point was about previous conduct being introduced to proceedings full stop, regardless of who introduces it. I honestly do not know why we went to all the expense of Cern, i do believe you could split the atom in one afternoon with a keyboard.


My question stands.......why mention the nose size of Ms Dallas?
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Msg: 402 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/25/2012 1:19:21 PM
Maybe ask the Aussies that one. After all they had a referendum and voted to keep her rather than become a republic.

Besides, isn't Liz Saxe-Coburg Germany anyway?




The Aussies are nothing to do with the topic, and they are not in the same position with regard to England as Scotland, so they cannot even be used as an analogy.

And Betty is the Queen of England and also Scotland.....the fact that she has German ancestors is totally irrelevant.

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Msg: 398 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independEnce ?
Posted: 1/25/2012 1:05:05 PM
Perhaps Salmond is wary of joining the euro?

Does the delay in the referendum give the euro time to recover?

After all, there is a suggestion that Scotland will not be able to retain sterling (not Stirling, lol) should independance occur. Where would that leave Scotland? No currency, and at the mercy of the euro.

And why retain the Queen as Head of State? Why have the monarch of another country with which you have no ties whatsover as your HoS? It defies logic. It's like Holland asking Sarko to be its HoS.

I think it's a ploy by Salmond to get the Scottish royalists onside with his plan. "Yes, we are independent, but Betty is still there, yay!"

The whole thing is a dog's breakfast.
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Msg: 53 (view)
 
Juror given 6 months for doing her own research.
Posted: 1/25/2012 12:38:52 PM

What the hell are you banging on about??? my post was referring to the woman in the OP, not you.


So why mention the nose size?

Her access to the internet is not in doubt, so why make a reference to a facial feature that has no relevance to the topic or the point you were making, and which the quoted poster might have meant was a reference to them?

The point that the quoted poster was making is that she can't see why the previous conduct of a defendant cannot be introduced by either side. She specifically ruled out such evidence being introduced by either the public or members of the jury, as the jury is rightly barred from doing so. You quoted her saying so.

The 'nose' comment is not relevant to the topic, so it was obviously aimed at the quoted poster.
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Msg: 77 (view)
 
Sexually Attractive
Posted: 1/25/2012 12:11:51 PM

Yep - as I thought - in other words:-

1. If sex is deemed moral then that person must be rampant - obviously!
2. If losing an argument - twist everything!
3. To some men the word sex is synonymous with acts most of us do consider immoral!
4. Always be careful never to let the facts get in the way!


You've clearly misinterpreted something.

Anyone who has lost an argument (whatever their definition of 'lost' is) should either accept that gracefully, stfu, or restate their position. Twisting words is never a good idea, because their meaning cannot alter just to suit the argument.

You're correcting in claiming that some men hold differing views to the rest of the planet, although you should have realised that obvious fact from a very early age.

It's always best to base an argument on the facts.


If you sleep with somebody on the first night without knowing a thing about them, it will set the tone for the relationship, they won't think highly of you, they will just think you are only interested in sex. They wont commit to you or take you seriously, basically.


Fair comment, but you don't know what that person will think of you, and don't forget they are placing themselves in exactly the same position as you, so they can hardly claim the moral high ground.
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Msg: 72 (view)
 
Sexually Attractive
Posted: 1/25/2012 6:17:05 AM

If you could kindly point out who it is that has seen nothing immoral about this.


Certainly!

Funnily enough, you're involved in the discussion. In MSG 38, you stated:


It depends on whether or not you see sex as something immoral. If not then there would be nothing wrong with sex on a first date or soon after. After all sexual chemistry is an important part of a relationship and it's as well to find out if you're compatible sooner rather than later.


MSG 41 questioned those who don't think sex is immoral:


Sex with a sibling certainly is immoral and indeed illegal not to mention the more obvious sex with a minor. Sex on a first date or any bloody date may very well be also immoral or at least unethical if one or both happen to be married/ attached to someone else for instance. One night stands per se between unattached adults are certainly not immoral , but are certain to be found distasteful if you are stupid enough to shout/ brag/whine about it, it’s not alone for immorality do a good many people give people who indulge in such pastimes a wide berth. If you want to indulge in such a dubious lifestyle , then fill your boots, but don’t even dare think that you won’t be judged and judged very harshly by some other people, and that attitude is not going to change until Earth collides with Andromeda.


Although you hadn't made a comment as to your position on morals in sexual matters, you indicated in MSG 42:


^^^^

Looks like its my turn again to be the subject of your incoherent ramblings.


and asked:


It is a simple question - is it immoral or not to have sex?


which means that you included all the examples provided by the poster of MSG 41 as examples of 'sex'.

There was no attempt by you to differentiate between any of them, morality-wise. To you, it was a "simple" question.

HTH


.....I cannot believe some men still think its ok to think a woman who enjoys carnal pleasure frequently with different men is wrong when she probably uses protection and gets check ups frequently its double standards and i would never judge....


As we have seen, shagging anything that moves is not gender-specific.


May i suggest they're a little uptight because the self righteous, boring fecks are not getting any?


So morals are restricted to those who have carnal relations?

Sorry, but I cannot see the logic behind your suggestion.


.I only have a profile so I can read the forums....I dont have to make a big thing of that, unlike some ATTENTION SEEKING people who make a big thing about leaving which never materialises.Also I dont come on here and think that Im speaking for EVERYONE as you do at times.


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Msg: 50 (view)
 
Sexually Attractive
Posted: 1/24/2012 7:17:52 AM

But I think the gist of what I was trying to say is clear enough.


It was perfectly clear, thank you. You are quite happy to indulge in sex with people for whom you haven't the slightest feelings just to satisfy your cravings for them sexually.

You should be applauded for your honesty.


I should of said some people,and not said all of us.


Should 'have', actually.......


Men want sex to find love,women want love to have sex, and thats how mistakes get made, on both sides.

I cant imagine a man waiting for 6 months or more for sex until he knows he is in love with a woman....


Well, clearly some men that you've encountered weren't given the chance to show their willingness to wait.

However, if they had been given enough opportunity, you might have discovered that not all men wish to shag the next gaping orifice they see.


I would happily wait that amount of time to have sex...


Which contradicts:


I would say it progresses when there is a feeling, and it's not something that you have to do in order for the relationship to develop.





It's not that a woman has to do anything specific to keep a man interested after the sex, it's a feeling he has about and for you that will keep him interested.


And how would you know? You're not a man, and you've admitted to not wishing to be with a man after you've had sex with him.


Please dont make assumptions on my character


None have been made.........at least, not in writing.


It is a simple question - is it immoral or not to have sex?


It depends on the circumstances, as was clearly answered in the post above yours which explained that.

Why the need to ask a question of someone when they've already answered it?

If you see nothing immoral about sex with children or with people who are married, then I'm not sure how you can be asking about morals.
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Msg: 34 (view)
 
Sexually Attractive
Posted: 1/24/2012 5:53:14 AM

We've all been there when it's freezing between you after the event and all you can think of is when you can possibly get away asap without seeming impolite?


'All'?

It's never happened to me or probably millions around the world.

It's because we are choosy about whom we play with. We actually get to know a person a little before placing ourselves and a duvet anywhere near them.

The person who does find themselves wishing to be miles away from the scene plainly placed the sex above everything else, and is most likely to have been on a one-night-stand. I'm quite happy for such events to occur, but such people have questionable morals, especially as they have basically demonstrated that they will shag anything IF the sexual attraction is there.


I would say it progresses when there is a feeling, and it's not something that you have to do in order for the relationship to develop.


So the sex happens first, and the feelings come later?

VVVVVVVVV



I think duvets are best suited to stable relationships. For all other encounters, the back of a skip should suffice.



pmsl.....
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Msg: 22 (view)
 
Juror given 6 months for doing her own research.
Posted: 1/24/2012 5:17:08 AM
Interesting topic!

She claimed that her English was insufficient for her to understand the jury instructions she was given. I've seen those instructions, and if they could dumb them down any further, I'd be impressed.

So why didn't she raise her hand and clarify the situation prior to the case?

She was trying a man charged with GBH, yet she didn't know what the offence is. Did the meaning not become clear as the prosecution presented its case? Do barristers not use the words in full?

She went online to find out what GBH meant, and happened (just happened, mind) to type in Luton at the same time. Why? I know Luton has more than its fair share of such incidents, but if she didn't know what GBH was, why would she link it to a small Bedfordshire town?

Nah, her defence is total bollox, and I'm only sorry that her punishment isn't more severe, silly cow.

HOWEVER......

It is the job of the prosecution to state its case and present its evidence in such a way that there is no or little doubt as to the defendant's guilt regardless of their previous conduct. I have no problem with a jury knowing the defendant's record because it can only convict on the case before them.
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Msg: 11 (view)
 
Karaoke Marquis of Granby 3rd February 2012
Posted: 1/23/2012 10:47:34 AM
I have a spare pillion and crash-helmet available to anyone who wants to make the evening even more of an adventure.

I promise to take it steady both directions.

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Msg: 356 (view)
 
Should Scotland vote yes for independance ?
Posted: 1/23/2012 2:36:17 AM

In addition a Scottish bank was recently bailed out with billions of cash from the Treasury. That was because it was a UK bank, not because the English parliament was feeling generous on that day and wanted to help a Scottish bank.


I wonder if the delay in holding the referendum is so that an independent Scotland wouldn't be liable for that debt?


The reason so many of us are against the break up of the UK is that we know we will be stronger as a whole.


I'm waiting to see what exactly the benefits are before making my mind up on the issue.

At least if Scotland went, our flag would be whiter.




We are part of the EU because we joined a union for common trade some 40 years ago. That has developed and we now accept some of the laws of the European Union in the UK. But we are not governed by them, we are not part of a single country, we are still a member of a European Union for trade purposes.


Nice thought, but completely wrong.

The EU is sovereign over our judiciary and legislature.

I don't wish to debate that on there - search EU and find loads of posts explaining the position.
 
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