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Thread: Do you ever think about how much time you have left?
auntemily
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Do you ever think about how much time you have left?
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11/11/2009 4:14:46 PM
I'm a man...so I'm lucky enough to have far more time than most women to find love.
Sorry ladies...
On average women live longer than men so actually the average man has less time to find love.
auntemily
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Do you ever think about how much time you have left?
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11/9/2009 3:14:37 PM
It's better to be alone than to be with someone who makes me walk on the eggshells no matter how much time I've left. If you wanna settle down for less, go ahead
I've done the walking on eggshells thing and I agree with you that it is better to be alone. But that isn't saying people shouldn't settle - just don't settle for eggshells. So many people on here seem to be holding out for perfection and aren't willing to compromise. They believe that theyare eventually going to meet 'the one' who is perfect just for them. They think they deserve to find what they want and that they will be short changing themselves if they settle for something short of that perfection. Chances are they are going to stay single or have a succession of short term relationships that end in disappointment.
No you certainly shouldn't settle for someone who makes you unhappy or a relationship where you have to tread on eggshells. But there are good people around if you are prepared to look at reality not seek some image of perfection.
auntemily
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Did I do the right thing in telling...
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11/2/2009 4:08:25 AM
Some of the responses to this thread just astonish me. As if there aren't enough stupid rules about dating there are now people who think there should be rules about what you can ask someone you are chatting with.
asked if he was currently dating anyone, he replied that he was not
Why on earth shouldn't the op ask this if she wants to know? If the man feels it is none of her business he can say so or refuse to answer and she can draw her own conclusions. What is wrong is that he out and out lied. Oddly enough in other threads posters have been very keen to condemn lying. But there they seem to think because he was put on the spot it was OK to lie.
She backed him into a corner and what was he suppose to say...
Well he could have tried telling the truth ie that he was dating someone but they weren't exclusive. So if he'd been married and she'd asked about that would it have been OK for him to lie just because he had been backed into a corner and answering honestly wouldn't have the desired result. The issue is the lie not the fact that he was seeking to date two women at the same time.
Ya, if he hadn't yet broken up with the other woman, this is technically true.
Just technically true? Not merely had he not broken up with the other woman but he was chatting to her by text at the same time as he was e-mailing the op so there is nothing to suggest that he had any intention of breaking up with her. He was happily dating one woman and looking to date another which is fine if he is honest about it. But to be actively dating one woman, and giving her the impression he liked her, while telling another woman he isn't dating anyone and had no chemistry with any of the women he'd dated is just plain dishonest.
auntemily
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would you stay with a girl who still talk to all of her ex's
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10/28/2009 4:55:44 PM
he still talks to ex and that
I'm still friends with my ex husband and we've been divorced more than 25 years but
i new it was and told that i new and like this happy befor at 3am
I can't imagine I'd have stayed friends with my ex (or anyone else) if they made a habit of phoning me up at 3am. 3am phone calls are for serious crises only
auntemily
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Best friend was hitting on your spouse. What would you do?
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10/28/2009 4:47:17 PM
Ladies: let's say your SO's best friend was hitting on you. I mean really trying hard to get you in the sack with him. Would you tell your partner?
Well I'd certainly make my revulsion clear to the friend - and I'm pretty effective at doing that. But yes I think I would tell my SO what sort of friend he had. The only time something like this happened to me it was my husband's brother. You chose your friends but not your brother and I didn't see any point causing difficulties in the family. I made my opinion clear to the brother and it never happened again.
auntemily
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False I.D. to Proove We're Younger??
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10/28/2009 3:49:56 PM
Still tempting to get a false I.D. that show's I'm like 52 or something to show the ladies in their 40s who ask how old I am....
And then you could date 65 year old ladies who think they look 40 something and also have fake ID to prove it lol
auntemily
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How do girls feel when the guy can't finish?
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10/21/2009 3:33:53 PM
I've had a relationship with someone who had this problem. I didn't see it as a problem for me. Generally sex went on for quite a while and that seemed pretty good to me. Sometimes he did eventually orgasm and sometimes he didn't. As long as we both enjoyed ourselves along the way I didn't see a problem.
auntemily
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Needs & Wants
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10/18/2009 2:02:54 PM
That’s why I said there will never be a need to change ANYONE…..People change because they want to, not because someone else NEEDS them to change. Believe it or not we are all selfish creatures, what may appear as a selfless gesture to change for someone because they don’t like x behavior is nothing more than change based on FEAR of losing our partner. And we all know the foundation of such change is never solid or real.
I disagree. People may make the change out of fear of losing the partner, or just because they don't want to hurt them. But those changes can become part of them in time and be sustained even when the original reason for the change no longer exists.
auntemily
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Do Cheaters Regret or Reform
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10/17/2009 4:01:29 AM
A "cheater" in my view is one who has a pattern of infidelity in their lives and relationships, not just in their marriages.
A person who has cheated is not necessarily a cheater but has been driven by circumstances in which they lost their sense of control over their actions or acted in ways contrary to their moral beliefs and standards.
So a "cheater" is someone with the mindset of James Goldsmith "When a man marries his mistress it creates a job opportunity. "
But some people without that mindset cheat because they are unhappy with a relationship but don't feel able to leave. Do they regret cheating and hurting someone they love? Well by this time they may not even love that person any more. Or they may not be hurting anyone. Should they have got divorced when they reached this point instead of cheating? It depends. For example a case I actually know of (not someone I was involved with) was a man whose wife had Alzheimer's disease. She was in a nursing home and didn't even recognise him. Should he have divorced her? How would this have benefitted her - he arranged her care and visited her regularly - would it really have benefitted her if he had ceased to do these things. Should he have waited until she died to start a new relationship? He was quite old and wouldn't necessarily have outlived her. There aren't always easy answers.
auntemily
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i just want to kiss you.......all night long !!! RIGHT...................
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10/17/2009 3:07:25 AM
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and suppose he is genuinely telling the truth about not expecting sex. Even if that is so he is being a jerk for not respecting your need to ensure your own safety by staying in a hotel. Because, while he may be telling the truth, there is no way you can be sure that is the case and you do need to put your own safety first.
auntemily
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Needs & Wants
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10/17/2009 2:56:23 AM
When there's a TRUE connection between two people there will never be a need to change anyone.
Then I guess 99.9% of us will never have what you call a true connection. In almost any relationship people change and adapt to fit better with their partner. Some of that they do voluntarily because they can see that one way of doing things works better than another or that something they usually do causes problems. But some of it is likely to be in response to a partner saying 'it makes me really unhappy when you do X could you do Y instead'.
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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10/14/2009 3:54:57 PM
This sounds like the typical American woman's attitude towards men that are a little older, not pretty enough, ETC. In other words if I dont want him or dont see any value in him then she doesnt either
Wow now I sound like the typical American woman! That's pretty weird as I'm not American.
I don't think it has anything to do with the things you mention. I would expect most women to be attracted to men from their own country who would speak the same language and have a similar background to them. Of course a woman might just happen to meet a man from a different country and fall in love. But when a woman deliberately sets out to meet men from a different country, particularly when she comes from a poor country and is seeking to meet men from a rich country, my suspicion would be that she is a gold digger.
auntemily
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Needs & Wants
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10/14/2009 3:38:03 PM
It is if they end their life in a suicide due to the loss of their spouse. Your first primary concern should be the sustenance of your life. If your first and most important thought is that you perform activities directly to the contrary, don't ya think it's indicative of a mental problem????? Personally I believe in the power of positive thinking. In instances of a widower dieing shortly after their spouse dies, I really think their health was kinda questionable and your negative thoughts sort of facilitate your bodily functions to cease.
I don't think it is suicide.
"A total of 4,486 widowers of 55 years of age and older have been followed up for nine years since the death of their wives in 1957. Of these 213 died during the first six months of bereavement, 40% above the expected rate for married men of the same age. Thereafter the mortality rate fell gradually to that of married men and remained at about the same leveL
The greatest increase in mortality during the first six months was found in the widowers dying from coronary thrombosis and other arteriosclerotic and degenerative heart disease. There was also evidence of a true increase in mortality from other diseases, though the numbers in individual categories were too small for statistical analysis."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1982801/
You might see it as negative thinking - perhaps others would consider it to be grief.
auntemily
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Needs & Wants
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10/14/2009 2:18:53 PM
Some people get mentally confused to the point to where they convince themselves they need a certain person in their life in order to thrive and survive. If you ask me, this is indicative of a mental disorder or on the border of having such a disorder.
So the widows and widowers who die shortly after the death of their spouse are all mentally disordered?
auntemily
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A real woman
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10/12/2009 6:29:20 PM
Is there such a thing as a "real woman",
Yep - she'ss real flesh and blood not plastic and was born with a vagina rather than had one created surgically.
auntemily
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This is not a library. It's a bookstore.
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10/10/2009 3:35:45 PM
My point was that people shouldn't complain about other people's preferences. Dating sites are all about what you want ... not what everyone else wants.
We all have preferences and that's just fine as long as you appreciate that every preference you have reduces the dating pool. And as long as you accept that other people have preferences too so that the people who fit your preferences may not be interested in you. In practice it probably isn't an issue for the young and attractive who can find plenty of willing fish to fit their preferences. But those who are less attractive can find that their preferences are excluding from the pool those people who would be intereted in them. Again that's fine if they are happy to be single. But no point complaining that no one will date you if your preferences have eliminated most of the pool.
auntemily
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How long before you know you're attracted to someone?
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10/2/2009 6:54:52 PM
It just happens differently for women, compared to men, though. Sometimes I feel attraction immediately - but with some other guys I've dated, they weren't my 'type" physically at first glance but I became attracted after getting to know them. I guess that doesn't happen as much for men, but it happens for women.
When I first met my boyfriend I wasn't attracted to him physically and he wasn't attracted to me. But we got on well and decided to go to gigs together (none of our friends shared our taste in music). As we got to know each other better, and I realised what a nice person he was, I found myself becoming more attracted to him and he became more attracted to me - the process took about 3 months.
auntemily
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Am so confused, we are together but he wont let me in his life..
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10/2/2009 1:30:06 PM
someone who has never once even said I am pretty or he fancies me, or that I have looked nice for a date
Well he wants to see you, indeed he has chosen to be your boyfriend, so it is a pretty safe bet that he fancies you. Just not much of a one for the flowery compliments perhaps. Perhaps you could wait until you are going somewhere smart that you have to dress nicely for and then tell him how good he looks and if he doesn't reciprocate simply ask him if he thinks you look nice. Hopefully his response will give you an idea of what he thinls but doesn't usually bother to tell you
he hasnt met my family or friends, and I am not ready for that myself, but they do know I am with him
Perhaps he isn't ready for you to meet his family and friends yet either but knows that his family would push to meet you once they knew of your existence so prefers to keep quiet about you. Or there might be all sorts of other reasons. Simplest thing would be to ask him.
Sorry but I think we speak very different in the UK to in the States or Canada.
Yes from reading the forums I can't help thinking that dating in the US has a whole different language and rules. There is a UK forum though so you might want to try that.
auntemily
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For those looking for FRIENDS on POF ~ What is It?
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9/22/2009 4:41:11 AM
But if you just want a friend - does it matter if I was 'fat' or had or didn't have a specific look?
That had me puzzled too. It has been suggested to me that even if someone is looking for a platonic friend they still apply much the same criteria as they would if looking for a girlfriend. I suspect that is true but I don't understand it - for me friends come in all shapes and sizes.
But it just gave me the feeling that they and a lot of other people are looking for something other than what I classify as a friend,
that was also my conclusion
I've always wondered about that catagory being a bit out of place on Plenty of Fish, which bills itself as a "free online DATING" site.
I understand that view - but if you don't meet lots of new people in real life it is difficult to know where to look for new friends. I joined one (paying) site that claimed to be for friendship and dating. I hoped that would be a better place to meet friends but it was actually worse than POF and they charged for it. So, while POF is not the ideal place for finding friends on line, it may be the best available.
Is that kind of like going to the hardware store and hoping to find a new dress?
lol. I don't think it is quite that bad - I did end up with a couple of friends eventually. Perhaps more like going to a supermarket looking for a dress - there are a few but you have to search hard and there isn't much choice.
auntemily
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Opinion wanted
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9/21/2009 6:14:19 PM
If women are going to be scared off I would have thought it would be by the permanent disability rather than the temporary unemployment. People like to say that disability doesn't matter to them because they think that's the right thing to say - it doesn't necessarily mean it's true. And there is a big difference between dealing with the onset of a disability in someone with whom you have a long established relationship and in starting a new relationshio with someone with a disability. Most people would deal with disability in a partner, but when there are plenty of fish around they may not want to pick one with a disability.
I'm sorry to sound so negative, and I don't think you should take yourself out of the dating pool, but I think you have to be prepared for there being a relatively small pool of fish who are going to be interested in you. That being so I think it is particularly important how you present the information about your condition. I guess a lot of women won't know much about MS, unless they have known someone with the condition, and quite possibly the cases they will have heard of will be the really bad ones so they may fear the worst when you tell them you have it. So I think you would need to explain how you are affected and why it isn't likely to be progressive so that any woman you are interested in can make a reasoned decision on whether she can deal with this.
auntemily
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Have relationships made you bitter?
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9/21/2009 5:02:50 PM
..in fact the best looking ones were the ones with the biggest issues/problems/disorders and no where near genuine.
Well I would have thought anyone good looking who didn't have lots of issues, and who wasn't impossible to please, would be snapped up very quickly. So the ones who remain in the pool are bound to be those with issues or who have requirements that no one is ever going to meet.
the length of their profiles/what they say/smiling faces/pleasant conversations on the phone/etc mean nothing in real life once you meet them...
I've found that the people I've met were very much what I expected from e-mail and phone conversations. But I have spent a bit of time talking (or e-mailing) people before meeting them and people's characters do gradually emerge even if they try to disguise them.
auntemily
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For those looking for FRIENDS on POF ~ What is It?
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9/21/2009 4:15:02 PM
If you have in your profile that you are looking for a 'Friend' - what does that mean to you?
What do you expect?
What are you looking for?
I originally came on here looking for friends and I meant friends in the way it is used in the real world, that is people I like and relate to in a non sexual way. I was hoping to meet some new people who had similar interests to me and would be interested in going out occassionally to gigs, theatre, cinema etc simply as friends with no romantic or sexual connection.
I think some people put 'friend' with a sexual-no-strings-attached connotation aka a 'intimate encounter' basically but that might give off the wrong impression.
Yes I discovered that some people interpreted it that way and others seemed to see it as meaning casual dating that would never lead to a committed relationship.
auntemily
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Have relationships made you bitter?
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9/21/2009 2:08:35 PM
Just wondering if relationships, online dating, POF, or just trying to date in general has made you bitter about life.
No. I've obviously been unhappy at times when things haven't worked out but there's nothing to be bitter about.
On thing I find extremely funny is when women rush into a thread claiming that if a man only finds unfit women it must be all his fault,did they ever think that the possibility of that happening on a service such as this is quite high when it's only filled with those type of women and the only reason they state this is because they fear the truth.
When I first came onto POF looking to meet someone I was certainly contacted by some people I thought unfit - some were damaged and some just plain weird. So I agree that the chances of finding unfit people is quite high. But it wasn't all that difficult to identify them and weed them out long before getting to meet them. And I did find other people who were normal and dateable - it didn't seem to be all that difficult. Maybe it's just different in the UK - but I would expect the normal people are there in any country. You just have to sift until you find them and to remember they usually get snapped up pretty quickly.
auntemily
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why do woman see men as just friends
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9/20/2009 10:53:50 AM
Because they like them but don't fancy them. You just have to find one who does fancy you.
auntemily
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Have relationships made you bitter?
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9/20/2009 10:46:09 AM
People have been disappointing. Marriage and children were poor investments that didn't pay off. My joy is in my work, my toys, my material comforts, and limiting myself to superficial relationships that cost me nothing, involve no future investment on my part, and that I can easily terminate at will.
And yet your profile says you are looking for 'long term'. So presumbaly you are leaving a trail of bitter and disillusioned women behind you.
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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9/16/2009 2:16:03 PM
Western men somehow concluded ( through their limited erudition and education through daily press and central TV news) that they can come to Eastern Europe whenever they feel like and immediately get a woman-slave who will fulfil all their needs, keep silent and stroke their ego until the rest of their life. What happens then is that that kind of man finds women over here who speak back, want attention and pampering, etc, basically no different than their Western women. Since that kind of behaviour has not met their expectations of a humble, slave woman, they rush to label them as gold diggers, while their western woman doing it all the time, or even worse, but are never painted with the same brush.
Isn't it that the only women who are interested in these men are the gold diggers (and there are bound to be some in any society) who pretend to fit their stereotype until they have got what they want (marriage, residence in another country or whatever) and who then cease to be slaves and make their own demands. The majority of women in Eastern Europe probably have little interest in these men and no desire to get involved with them.
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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9/16/2009 2:04:58 PM
A typical story of an old fat expat marrying a young Asian bar girl lol....
Except that he was 30 and thin and she was 26 and respectable. So he had slightly better reasons to hope things would work out than in many ex-pat marriages. But I agree in a lot of cases it is a much older man marrying a young Asian woman and he shouldn't be surprised that the main attraction is his money.
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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9/14/2009 2:31:00 PM
However, if you took 100 various women each from lets say the U.S., England, Canada and Australia, I guarantee you the ones that you would find the least interesting and appealing would be the ones from the U.S.
And does the same apply to men?
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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9/14/2009 1:42:44 AM
Well Auntemily, just maybe us American men have a little more experience with American women than you do.....is that possible? Assuming you are straight, my guess is your experience is none.
Just because I don't date women doesn't mean I don't know any. But even if I didn't I'd be pretty sceptical about the dismissal of a whole nation of women. And yes, I do know I told a story about an Asian woman. But that doesn't mean I think all Asian women are like that - some are lovely. It's just that people should be careful with the idea that foreign women are necessarily better because I've heard some horror stories about Asian and Eastern European wives. Perhaps it is something about the motivation of women who go out of their way to marry out of their own culture.
auntemily
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do women from different countries act differently
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9/13/2009 5:23:01 PM
I think people (men as well as women) from different countries act differently reflecting the different cultures in which they were raised. This can lead to misunderstandings as we misinterpret behaviour that fits some other cultural norm.
American men want and can get Latinas, Asians, and East European women with beautiful bodies who take care of themselves and now how to treat a man. Get used to seeing white men pick these women over white American women. It is already happening and the trend will escalate.
A friend of mine who worked for a while in Asia married an Asian lady. He believed that Asian women treated men well but he was soon disillusioned. Although she was working when he met her she never worked after they married because it was her husband's job to support her. He also had to support her family back in Asia as she was no longer working to support them. And, even though she wasn't working, she had to have a cleaner come in to do the basic housework because she didn't expect to have to do those sort of menial jobs. He believes she only married him for his money - she thought he was rich because he earned a lot more than people in Asia. So good luck to you all if you think you will do better with a foreign wife.
I'm horrified at the way some of the participants in the forums seem to regard American women (and not because it reflects on me - I'm English). It makes me very glad I am English and dating English men not Americans. But perhaps some of the embittered habitues of the forums aren't typical of American men either.
auntemily
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People who never had a relationship
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9/5/2009 7:53:52 PM
Anyway, there does seem to be a certain population of virginal, never married, nor even kissed, single people. And many of then express despair of securing a romantic partner.
I think at least some of these people are virtually undateable. Some years ago I met a 37 year old who had never dated, was a virgin and had never even kissed anyone. He was very unhappy about this situation which he attributed to his looks. I tried to explain that it was more likely to be his 'chip on the shoulder' attitude but he never really believed me. He seemed quite unable to anticipate how people would react to things he said or did and constantly misread them so generally ended up upsetting people. I did go out with him for a while because he was fundamentally a nice person and I felt sorry for him. But it really wasn't a happy experience, he was always taking things the wrong way and creating difficulties where there shouldn't have been any. And the sex was dire. Not just because of his inexperience but because he found it unpleasant to touch me and kept having to wash his hands. Not surprisingly he hasn't had a real relationship since, just on-line ones that never got as far as actually meeting. I suspect that really, despite claiming he wants a real relationship, he is more comfortable with that.
auntemily
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What would you think/do if...
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8/26/2009 5:19:55 PM
So you looked at lots of rings including the one she finally chose. She asked which one you liked and you chose a much cheaper one. Maybe she figured you didn't want to pay any more and settled for one she didn't really care for. Then later she decided she'd rather get the ring she really liked at her expense. If she's prepared to pay lots of money herself to get a ring she is really happy with I'm not sure why you should have a problem.
auntemily
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Is it fair to be friends with your ex?
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8/3/2009 4:41:49 PM
Me
I see a few times a year. My ex is in the last category. I might see more of him and his wife if they lived nearer.
make a wish!
Thank God they are not near, otherwise you would have broken their relationship.
I simply do not understand your thinking at all. He and I chose to part. They chose to be together. Why would seeing more or less of me impact on that choice. As it happens they did live nearer after the divorce and we did see more of each other for a few years - and no it didn't break up their relationship or my subsquent relationship. Then we both moved further away geographically because of our jobs so I see less of them now. We've been divorced more than 25 years now but they (both of them not just my ex) were there for me when my second husband died unexpectedly.
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If he had thrown a jealous tantrum about me being friends with my ex I would have realised I had nisjudged him and he wasn't the sort of person I wanted a relationship with.
make a wish!
People will similar thinking spend their time in POF and not able to find a LTR mate. But then i guess they are happy with short term hooking.
On the contrary I have had two long term relationships since my divorce. One lasted 11 years and the second 15, only ending with my husband's death. My relationship with my ex didn't adversely affect either relationship and both the men got on well with my ex and his wife. Perhaps that is because I have relationships with rational people who don't get jealous when there is nothing to be jealous about.
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What is too easy?
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If you don't a lot of men lose interest and if you do they lose interest. What is it? It's like men want you to, but the really don't.
A man is either really strongly attracted to you or he isn't. If he is really attracted to you then it doesn't matter if you jump into bed immediately or insist on waiting until you know each other well. He'll accept either option if he wants you enough. If he isn't that strongly attracted he is likely to lose interest fairly swiftly whatever you do but might be quite happy to enjoy some fun in bed along the way.
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Is it fair to be friends with your ex?
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but people in this thread who support being friends with exes are still emotionally attached with their exes and are really happy to see them. i firmly believe that these people should have worked out on their marriage.
I expect there are some people who are emotionally attatched to their ex and use friendship as a pretence to try to revive the relationship. But I think generally this is a misunderstanding of the situation. An ex is an ex because you couldn't live with them. Doesn't mean you can't like and respect them and want to maintain a friendship with them. I suppose it also depends how much you see of an ex. I have friends I see most weeks, friends I see once a month or so and friends I see a few times a year. My ex is in the last category. I might see more of him and his wife if they lived nearer.
I think the key thing is what actually happens when there is a new relationship. I told my boyfriend about my past significant relationships and told him I was still on good terms with my ex husband. When our relationship became more than casual I sugggested he might like to come and meet my ex (and his wife) on a suitable occassion, in the same way that I introduced him to other friends. He met them, got on well with them and is happy to see them. If he hadn't got on with them I would probably have visited them (them - not my ex alone) occassionally without him and expected him to be polite to them at events like my birthday party where it would be natural for both to attend. If he had thrown a jealous tantrum about me being friends with my ex I would have realised I had nisjudged him and he wasn't the sort of person I wanted a relationship with.
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Is it fair to be friends with your ex?
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I was with my ex-husband for 10 years. We didn't have children together. After we split up he married a close friend of mine. That was 27 years ago and we have all remained friends since then. Frankly I find it hard to remember that we were ever lovers - he seems much more like a brother now. When I married my second husband (sadly now dead) he had no difficult in dealing with my friendship with my ex and his wife - at one point when we talked about them he said he thought of them as family. Perhaps it helped that he was also on good terms with his ex-wife. I didn't have any problems with that either. My boyfriend has also met my ex-husband and his wife and he likes them. I don't see why there should be a problem unless a person is trying to have a one to one relationship with an ex and is excluding the current partner. If that is the case I can understand the partner wondering why they couldn't all be friends.
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Can you change your personality?
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7/23/2009 5:41:44 PM
At diffferent times in my life I've done very different types of jobs. And I found that some aspects of my personality changed to accommodate the needs of the different work. But I don't suppose these aspects were really new. I think it was just that different parts of my personality became more predominant in different circumstances. I guess the same thing happens in relationships though it may be less apparent if you tend to pick partners with fairly similar personalities.
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Harrassed males
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7/15/2009 5:32:31 PM
Yes there are bitter and unhappy women being nasty to men. But there seem to be plenty of bitter and unhappy men being nasty to women too.
The ones I sit and scratch my head over are those who are seeking a partner of the opposite sex on this site to be with. Why on earth if they have such low regard for the members of the opposite sex do they want to be with one.
Yes that has me puzzled too. And why do they think that spewing hatred about the opposite sex is likely to attract a potential partner?
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GF boring in bed getting to point where i'm not interested in her at all
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6/12/2009 4:40:37 AM
By that logic, why should he feel like pleasing her if she can't or won't think of ways to please him? That's just an endless circle where no one wins because both people are too busy holding out until the other does what they want instead of actually trying to make one another feel good.
Perhaps he might try to find ways of pleasing her because he cares about her. I assume he must or he'd have left her long ago. I'm not suggesting that he should do anything that he finds unpleasant - just that he could try focusing on her pleasure for a bit to see if that solves the problem. The problem, as the op described it, is surely not that she can't think of ways to please him but that she doesn't enjoy doing stuff. So the answer must be to help her enjoy it. If he doesn't care enough to do that then obviously he ought to end the relationship because it isn't doing any good to either of them.
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GF boring in bed getting to point where i'm not interested in her at all
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6/12/2009 3:08:24 AM
If you were any good in bed you wouldn't have this problem. Sorry to have to break it to you.
I'm sorry, but that is an absurd claim. I've gotten bored with girlfriends because THEY were BORING in bed. Women are not the paragons of sensuality, eroticism, creativity and communication they would like to believe, so when sex is boring, it's not always the man's fault.
Well no, actually it isn't absurd at all. And it has nothing at all to do with women being paragons of sensuality, eroticism, creativity and communication. It's just that if the woman isn't getting any pleasure from the sex she isn't likely to be giving any pleasure either. I really didn't care for sex until I was in my 40s. It was just something I did to try to please the man I was with not something that gave me pleasure. Then I met someone new who focused on giving me pleasure and the whole world changed. I was happy to have sex several times a day rather than once in a blue moon. And yes I was able to give him pleasure too - but I needed to be able to enjoy it myself before I could get into doing that. so perhaps if the op really worked at finding ways of giving his girlfriend pleasure in bed, rather than about what pleased him, she would start enjoying sex and would then be happy to learn how to please him.
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Competing with a dead spouse.
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6/12/2009 2:35:29 AM
I think it boils down to divorced people are usually not still in love with their ex spouse, and widowed people are.
That is true in a great many cases. But just because you love someone doesn't mean you can't love someone else. It's really about whether the widowed person is looking for a new relationship or simply trying to find someone to substitute for the dead spouse. If they want a new relationship they will be open to finding love again. If they are just looking for a substitute there will always be comparisons.
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Are you afraid of widow(er )s???
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6/10/2009 5:38:55 PM
Yeah, I may be competing with a ghost, but there's nothing that stops me from helping allow her to celebrate that part of her life as we move on to the next part. It's a whole lot easier to respect a deceased ex who treated her well than an alive ex who emotionally battered her.
That seems to me a very reasonable attitude. I think people who have been widowed fairly recently do still want to celebrate that part of their life rather than just bury it as some people seem to think they should. But that doesn't necessarily mean they can't love someone new and make a new relationship.
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Guys' turn to respond to what the ladies said...
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6/10/2009 4:42:45 PM
Aunt emily and As is the poster who has a problem with the park ranger etc issue does not have a problem with a woman taking basic precautions, and nor would any man worth his salt. Nor would any man have a problem with more advanced precautions.
The turn off lies in the slap in the face approach to setting up those precautions. I would walk away from a woman who showed up for a meet and said I just programmed the park ranger into my phone, I have a friend out here watching, or I have your information posted in my car, or any other precaution you have taken. I am there to meet you and yes precautions are necesary but make them ahead of time and unless asked do not mention them, and if you are asked you need to be concerned.
The whole point about most precautions is that they don't work unless the other person knows about them. A woman meeting a man for the first time has to consider the possibility (probably only a very remote possibility but a possibility nonetheless) that he will attack her or rape her. Obviously if the woman is unlucky enough to meet a potential attacker or rapist he is much less likely to attack if he knows she has taken precautions. It's rather less effective if he isn't deterred because he doesn't know about these precautions. OK so the risk may not be great but there always is a risk when meeting a stranger. Personally I wouldn't blame a man for taking precautions either in case the woman turned out to be a complete fruitcake.
A man that is interested in meeting you and getting to know you and possibly dating you is not going to ask you about what precautions you have taken to protect yourself from him
On the contrary I've met two men who have been concerned enough about my safety to suggest that I should take precautions before meeting them (and any other stranger).
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Are the Success Stories for real?
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6/10/2009 7:54:31 AM
I met my boyfriend on here a year ago and we're very happy together. I reckon that must be some sort of a success.
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Ending a LTR--do you want to remain friends?
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Yes it can work as long as both of you are OK with the changed relationship. I'm still friends with my ex-husband, and see him and his wife a few times a year, even though we've been divorced over 25 years.
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Women who when you meet them in a park or other public accommodation, will make a display of entering into their cellphone the number of the nearest Park Ranger or Sheriff's Deputy. I will instantly walk from any woman who pulls this character assassination stunt. I have no criminal record, have never been the subject of a restraining order, and do not resort to violence except for self-defense. If a woman believes there is a probability she will be assaulted on a first meet with someone from POF or any other dating site, then she needs to arm herself and obtain a concealed weapons permit. Otherwise stop the insulting charade.
So you object to a woman who is meeting a total stranger taking fairly minimal precautions to ensure her safety just because you see it aas a slur on your character. You may be trustworthy and non violent - but how can she know that when meeting you for the first time?
Constant talk by the woman about her muscle-bound 25 -year-old son who is also a personal trainer and who is available and on call to her 24/7. Never figured this one out but maybe it's a fiction designed to discourage a guy from making untoward advances? I've had this thrown at me on several meets with different women.
Or perhaps you really do come over as scary!
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How important is it for your partner to be physically fit or in shape
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6/8/2009 10:15:08 AM
If I eat healthy, and exercise, bike, gym etc. I would like a partner who is into the same thing. If I'm making a spinach salad, with shrimp and brown rice pasta, I don't want a significant other whining about how "we could just go to McDonalds" or whatever. I would like someone who is on the same page as me. It would be nice to have someone to go biking with, someone to snowboard with etc, instead of someone sitting at home waiting for you to return.
I can understand why it might be nice to have someone who you could share everything with. But realistically wanting someone who shares your every taste just reduces the chances of you finding someone compatible. After all plenty of fit people don't like shrimp or spinach and could even be vegetarian. I can't help thinking that the more people limit their choices to someone who is just like them the less likely they are to find someone. and it is perfectly possible to have a happy relationship with someone who doesn't share all your tastes.
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Competing with a dead spouse.
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AuntEmily I read your response to the posted question with a lot of interest. My husband died 4 yrs ago and it's only now that I can think of dating again so it was lovely to see that you are in a good relationship. It gives me a lot of hope that if I get over my nervousness I could maybe find a future with somebody else.
I think I was very lucky to meet someone who had also had the experience of being widowed. He is probably more understanding about it than a lot of people who haven't been through that, and I guess that works both ways. I do hope you manage to find someone who is right for you so that you can make a new future together.
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Competing with a dead spouse.
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There's quite a difference to falling in love with someone that is widowed, and loving someone who CONSTANTLY reminds you of the deceased spouse. I will say it again, it is very inconsiderate to CONSTANTLY bring up the deceased spouse. There is a difference in referring to the deceased in passing, or on a special occasion, or just an innocent comment, and talking about them, and comparing you to them CONSTANTLY.
I think a lot of people who are widowed are encouraged to get on with life. People are uncomfortable listening to them talking about how unhappy they are so they can bottle it up and try to move on. So sometimes a romantic relationship can bring stuff up and make the person want to talk about their spouse to someone they care for and trust. I don't think that has to be a bad thing. but I agree that being constantly adversely compared to a deceased spouse would be rude. And why would anyone want to be in a relationship with someone who saw them that way. And, strangely, even negative qualities can sometimes turn out positively. My boyfriend's late wife was a superb cook. I generally produce burnt offerings if you are very lucky! He said one day how much more fun it was cooking with someone who didn't know what they were doing because we do things together whereas his wife didn't really need his help.
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Competing with a dead spouse.
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They constantly refer to them by name, they bring up things they used to do together.
Of course they do. Why wouldn't they? It's their past and probably largely a happy one. Do you expect someone to just forget their past life when they meet you? My late husband comes up in conversation quite a lot when I'm talking about things I've done and places I've visited. My boyfriend ( a widower) talks about his ex-wife too. Naturally he does - she was a huge part of his life. He also talks about other parts of his life before he met her. Because he has a past and getting to know him involves getting to know about his past too. Isn't that a mormal part of getting to know someone?
I do include his name in a lot of my conversations and of course the word we is included. I look at it this way - if you want to know me, you need to hear about my past and I have no choice but to include his name since the person I have become includes experiences, trips, and a lifestyle that both my husband and I created or shared. To know me is to know him as well.
Yep that sounds about right.
They refer to themselves as "we" instead of "I".
Yes I'm guilty of that one. Obviously when talking about the past it is a fact - we did something, I didn't do it by myself. Again I don't see why it's a problem - it just recognises the fact that we did things together.
I think you're being unfair to the other person by expecting them to bury their memories with their spouse. Especially since they are obviously fond memories. Why would someone try to replace another to begin with? I personally wouldn't want someone that wanted to step in and replace my late s/o. He holds a place in my heart that isn't going to be moved aside by another person.
I agree with all of that. Didn't mean there wasn't room in my heart for someone else or that I couldn't fall in love with my boyfriend.
Besides, the dead spouse is always glorified because they are dead.
Not necessarily. I think I'm fairly realistic about my late husband. He was a good man but he certainly had faults. My boyfriend was perhaps more inclined to make a saint of his late wife when I first met him but now he is talking a lot more realistically about how things weren't always perfect. I think it can take time to trust someone enough to admit to them that a dead spouse did have faults.
Yeah, even though it shows this man is capable of deep and devoted love, every time we would make love, I would wonder if he was thinking about "her"
Again I have to wonder why you would think that. It never occured to me. But then physically I am nothing like my boyfriend's late wife. And since it's my name he is saying not his wifes I'm pretty sure it's me he is thinking of.
and if he was in a bad mood, I would wonder if he was grieving over "her".
Well I guess you could ask. After all there are plenty of other reasons to be in a bad mood. And if it is about his wife then you could perhaps just sympathise. Being unhappy about his wife's death needn't mean he doesn't care about you.
Sorry, but I want to be the only and the best. If I can't have that, then I don't want it at all.
Then you will have to restrict yourself to dating men who have never had a relationship. Because if someone has had a relationship you will never be "the only". There will always be left over feelings for that other even if they are hatred. Of course if you are the only it follows that you must be the best. But in any normal situation it is likely that in some respects you will be better than a previous partner and in other respects worse. Do you really want to make every relationship a competition? Isn't it enough if someone loves you for yourself?
I won't ask about the photographs that are probably everywhere. They should, out of respect for you if you are staying over ect. ,be put in a special photo album. I can't imagine walking around in a SOs' living room in my robe and seeing "Martha" smiling down at me. Creepy.
Again I have to wonder why. Why would you expect someone to hide photos of a person they loved? Should they get a new bed because you can't sleep in the same bed the wife did, a new couch because you can't sit on the couch they sat on? Or couldn't you just accept that the person had a life before they met you and that that life is reflected in their home.
If they have children they may resent you and drama may insue.
That is quite possible, but equally likely where a parent is divorced. Another possibility is that they will be really pleased to see their parent finding happiness with someone new. I have no doubt that my boyfriend's children miss their mother. But they have always been very friendly and welcoming to me.
Well, as I've found out more, it has been 10 yrs. since his wife passed away.
That is a long time for him not to have moved on. What has he been doing in the meantime?
I'm CONCERNED that if I should become close to this person, he would constantly be comparing me to "her"
I sometimes compare my boyfriend with my late husband in the sense that I notice how different he is. But I don't sit around marking him down for not being like my husband. I just think he is a lovely man and that is enough. I know I completely failed by comparison with his late wife when he first met me. Despite that I've grown on him and he has grown to love me for my own, quite different, qualities.
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