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sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 263 (view)

I Don't Need A Man.., I very Independent..etc etc = RED Flags? Posted: 11/1/2009 7:19:24 AM
"And the guy who doesn't get it. Lack of needing a guy and being a gold digger doesn't really compute - unless someone can show me where I missed the reference. Thanks for your efforts tho. " oh we get it alright................the FACT is is that YOU don't want us to be able to get it!!! GOT IT??? yeah, and you REALLY missed the reference......................but that's the typical oversight of the modern feminist female. thanks for your efforts THO!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 135 (view)

COWARD ! - The Ignoring Game Posted: 10/31/2009 4:49:03 PM
women love to play the little kindergarten kid mind games with "average nice guys"!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 257 (view)

I Don't Need A Man.., I very Independent..etc etc = RED Flags? Posted: 10/31/2009 9:08:58 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These are the TYPICAL BS LAME excuses that females think of INSTEAD of womaning up, ADMITTING they LOVE playing the little kindergarten kid mind games keeping males at arm's length.............................INSTEAD of just SIMPLY SAYING what it is they want AND STICKING TO IT, what THEY NEED, WHY they need that, ADMIT they are NOT really happy being alone, ( we were CREATED by God to BE WITH SOMEONE), and why they are on a DATING/RELATIONSHIP site in the FIRST place???!!! And if all they want/seek is talk/email, activity partner, FRIENDS, running buddy, chat person......................why the HELL are they on a DATING, LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP site instead of a simple CHAT site when there are HUNDREDS of those??? And of course, then all the LAME EXCUSES follow as to why they are on here. .............blah..................blah........................blah

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 25 (view)

The new Marriage search/page Posted: 10/31/2009 3:14:28 AM
"There is another dating site that has marriage as an option to tick when filling out your profile, like long term on POF. You can also pick more than one option so that your profile could say that you are looking for marriage, longterm or you are looking for dating/longterm, etc. I think that would be a better idea so that the person knows that they are advertising that they would consider/like to get married or that you would consider a couple of options" yes, I see your point^^^^^^^^^^but the sad reality IS it just doesn't work that way. ALL the choices/options that are/have been available forever are easily played with by anyone that becomes a member on here. to keep the males at arm's length females choose talk/email, dating, NOT SINGLE/NOT LOOKING, activity partner, I JUST WANT FRIENDS................."I'm JUST looking for friends"! Then they continue by telling the whole world of their list of serious relationships and latest dating episodes gone sour! I thought they said they "just wanted friends"??? GOTTA LOVE THAT!!! BUT...............then their profiles STATE that they are LOOKING/SEARCHING for someone to BE IN THEIR LIFE FOREVER!!! So which really is it??? live OR memorex??? the SAME is CONSTANTLY done with the BODY TYPE choice. their body type is NOTHING like what "body type" description they CHOSE!!! what the hell is with the popularity and modern ATTITUDE of LYING about WHO and WHAT one is as a person, one's character and beliefs, what one IS TRULY doing on here in the first place and what one's REAL and TRUE purpose really is??? yes, you can advertise that you are wanting to get married............nothing wrong with that in itself..............but is that REALLY what that person WANTS and IS searching for??? Therein is the million-dollar question. the morale of this post is: if you don't find SOMEWAY to pre-screen EVERYONE using this site BEFORE they become a member, in such a way that they must be TOTALLY HONEST as to their intentions, purpose, and WHO and WHAT they ARE, then "choices" and "selections" about questions you have for them that they make are USELESS and FUTILE!!!!!! the ones "chooseing" to play little kindergarten kid mind games, scams, and having a blast hurting others will simply LIE, LIE, LIE as they ALWAYS have done in making their "choices" about what they are looking for and what they state on their profiles. they are NOT REAL! no one likes the facts in life but these are the COLD, HARD FACTS!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 19 (view)

Where is the follow thru? Posted: 7/31/2009 8:59:47 PM
I have had many females treat me this way on several levels. They enjoyed so much the games they can play in this dating world. It is rare if you get a reply or an explanation on what the heck happened or why they did not reply, EXTREMELY RARE, and if a decent nice guy pursues the issue with them they promptly retort that they DON'T OWE you an explanation or anything! Much of it has to do with the "princess mentality". "Look at me, look at me, look at me." If a female is avarage looks or above, she is bombarded with emails, IM's, phone calls, approached and asked out for dates, given attention in an unrealistic way. But that's the way they like it. They can pick and choose. There is NO EFFORT in that. No need to follow through. On the net they sort, scan, choose, unread, delete, ignore, reject, block! IRL, the same, approached by so many good, decent males, but.........NOPE, YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH! REJECT! The males come TO THEM and they love it that way. Society, on both sides of the fence, has always pushed and forced the idea that that's the way it MUST BE, as it always has been, that males must accept the challenge to do all the work, thought, effort, trying, approaching, asking, pursueing. As long as MOST of society holds to this viewpoint, it will never change.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 34 (view)

Retirement Posted: 7/21/2009 10:24:48 AM
Some retired people of either gender might have the approach that they MUST have someone retired so that they can have the EXACT same schedule. The retired male posting this thread is NOT ONE OF THOSE! That is Soooooo easy to see by his responses and comments. I can tell everyone (to the females on this thread's dismay) that last year I posted to a "retired dating" thread. With the female's comments came unreasonableness, ignorance, UNintelligence, pointless argueing, displaying stupidity, baseless accusations, childishness, going off the deep end, stating retired people and working people had NOTHING in common, and demanding perfection in what they were looking for in a male. This is, sad to say, the common retorts that MOST, but not all, of the time that males get when they simply ask a well thought out intellectual question. Males get barraged with outbursts of all types. It is always, YES ALWAYS said that if a male does something he is lowlife trash, but if the SAME thing is done by a female she is told by her female sistas : "YOU go girl, good job, keep up the good work, you are such a sweet angel"!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 83 (view)

why can't people just be who they are Posted: 7/18/2009 5:32:27 AM
Here is another aspect of why can't people just simply be who they are: the PHOTOS! As I have explained to females many, many times on here, I do NOT seek the proverbial "Barbie Doll". I DO seek height-to-weight PROPORTIONATE, "average" body type as I am, which, once again, I have honestly explained many, many times to females on here as well. We ALL KNOW, male and female, that it is a question of "what" is attractive to each person. But at the same time, what I have learned, is that by far, the majority of people on here, of either gender, and pretty much no matter what THEIR body type IS, seek "average" or a "FEW" extra pounds. Are there exceptions? Of course, in each direction. But still, MOST choose the middle ground. So do I. One major problem is that everyone on here seems to have a DIFFERENT viewpoint on the terminology of just HOW MANY pounds "a few extra pounds", "average body type", "I'm full figured", and I "prefer not to say" ARE. This causes Soooo many other problems! The one FINALLY sends the other a photo after almost endlessly requesting it, only to be very disappointed with what they finally get to see. It is as they suspected, the other person was not being HONEST about their body type, so they therefore did not want to post a photo, or if they did post one, not recent, not clear, or the typical head shot. All could be avoided in good taste if EVERYONE would simply post full body shots to begin with. But WE ALL KNOW that! Then why don't WE ALL do that??? If one doesn't they are simply playing games with people's minds. It would save SO MUCH OF EVERYTHING from A to Z if EACH person, and I do mean EACH AND EVERY person would SIMPLY from the beginning post several head to foot body shots of recent and reasonably clear with decent lighting. MOST on here DO NOT! I HAVE many times over the past year and a half posted several on my profile. I have them UPloaded to my profile currently as private except the main image, and ANY FEMALE up to this day that has requested to "see more of me" IMMEDIATELY gets these emailed to her. NO SECRETS with this male. And NO games.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 36 (view)

Online dating vs Social groups Posted: 7/14/2009 8:24:29 PM
"You are 51. There were plenty of women in that age range in the one here. Women outnumbered the men for sure, both while I was there and afterwards I heard." As I did list in my post, there MIGHT be cities, towns, or instances (parties, social gatherings) where women DO outnumber men. BUT, all across the board of circumstances it is WIDELY KNOWN that males will ALMOST ALWAYS outnumber the females. This is a known fact about the dating world. And yes, in my age range, true, but as I had stated, even then, much heavier than what I and MOST males are looking for. The postings are here in the forums.....and so are the pics......for all the world to see. Go look at them. And another point: so you are saying AT EVERY GATHERING that all the other "types" of women are hiding BEHIND the camera, at EVERY GATHERING??? No, that is just NOT the case. They are simply NOT IN ATTENDANCE! "Not sure what you are seeing in the pics of events, but the pics don't always tell everything and everybody who was there." See above statement.^^^^^^ "Not even the signup roster page either, lol." I have read them, many state it right there (on the sign-up pages) that, "sorry, I changed my mind (for whatever reason they did) that, I can't make this one. You all have fun". And this is AFTER signing up initially. Just the facts of the way it is. "Come south. Women outnumber men by some unholy ratio????" Apparently then, from what you just stated, it must be the MALES who are not attending. LOL Funny how MOST all the ones I have read/looked at the men outnumber the women. ALMOST every time. And by a large percentage. "An average man who wants a regular average women can easily find one without even looking for her." WOW. I wonder then why there are so many "average" SINGLE men on POF who are constantly, continually, and regularly dateless, EVEN THOUGH they are sending email after email after email to females TRYING to get communication going. "But if you're only looking for sticks, of course there are fewer of them. I'd just put that on my page and only mail to those people. Go sign up for one of those paid dating organizations, even if they are in another city, and request only sticks." Never have requested "sticks" as you term them, never have stated such on my profile, ALWAYS with every communication with EVERY female I am honest and make it known to them that I am seeking height-to-weight proportionate, "average" body type, or a FEW extra pounds. Isn't ALMOST everyone? YES. Trouble is, so many get the "few extra pounds" and "average" terms confused with the thinking that 100 lbs. overweight is attractive and good-looking.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 32 (view)

Online dating vs Social groups Posted: 7/14/2009 1:44:28 AM
As far as social groups, there aren't any here that I know of and Springfield has a population of 200,000 in the city limits, and many small towns within 5 to 10 miles within this county for a total Pop. of 395,000!! It's rediculous. There just aren't ANY "singles social groups" and there should be for this size Pop. And I'm not talking about church groups, the "bridge club", golfing clubs, etc. Where does one have to go to find a SINGLES SOCIAL GROUP............for singles? Once, there was a speed dating business in town. I signed up for it twice. 11 men, 7 women! LOL I was sitting at a table downstairs near the front entrance to the restaurant before the "meet" began and watched female after female, who had obviously taken the time to get ready, drive to attend the event, and then go as far as putting their hand on the door handle, pause, look through the glass entrance door, and immediately turn and walk away, NOT ATTEND!! LOL You figure that one out. And this place was very nice, always had a busy crowd, not a hole-in-the-wall dump. How can a decent male meet a female if they WON'T EVEN ATTEND a singles event? J. S. Ogle asked if anyone attended the POF parties and knew anything about them. I have read MANY threads and postings on POF events, looked at the photos downloaded here on the forums about POF gatherings from between Little Rock, Ar., Kansas City, Mo., to St. louis, Mo and back again to Ar. I have yet to see photos or read about just one event where there were MANY, MANY females from ALL ACROSS THE SPECTRUM of what one sees when one does a POF search, of THESE types attending the POF events. Fine for anyone to go and have a good time. I'M ALL FOR THAT! But how is one supposed to feel if the opposite gender are ALMOST all much older than your age and many pounds heavier? It is all posted and listed here on the forums for all to see. Don't take my word for it.....check it out for yourself! How can you meet someone even close to what you are looking for if they don't attend? Perhaps in L.A., Dallas-Ft. Worth, Miami, or New York this is possible. I don't know about those cities. Just my humble opinion.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 45 (view)

Someone please tell me what this is... Posted: 7/14/2009 12:12:02 AM
Glad for you that all went well and that things are STILL going well for you! I have ALMOST ALWAYS had to do ALL the driving when "first meeting" OR dating. I wish all women felt as you did and at least would agree to meet and drive HALF THE DISTANCE. I talked to a female in my area, told her I would like to meet her halfway, she said she would not/could not drive to meet a male. In the next few minutes of conversation she told me she was going to drive TWO AND A HALF HOURS to meet a guy she had only talked to on the phone for a couple of weeks. But he had money and a higher job position. To her I was only "average" in money and station in life. What's wrong with that? I am done footing ALL THE BILL. Women and men are supposed to be "equal". Why not on the money/financial aspect of things when driving to "first meets", dating, relationships, live together, etc.???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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What the HECK is going on Posted: 6/28/2009 3:04:19 AM
Davv 45: The main point is that there is no pleaseing them, NO MATTER what you say in your profile. They would argue that that's not the case. Oh really then? So if a male says he's a nice guy, respectful to women, etc., what is a female's retort? YOU are not a nice guy, You're a doormat, boring , and insecure. Ok, so the male says, I am disrespectful to women, will abuse and downgrade them, and just use them for sex. Will they be receptive to that? NO, of course not. So a male says he's a gameplayer, a cheater, and a jerk. Is that the kind of man they want? Well, we read that they say this is not the type of male they want. Okay, so if he relates about himself and describes his wants, needs, things he likes, dislikes, etc., they retort that "all you do in your profile is TALK ABOUT YOURSELF"! If he DOESN'T talk about himself, or highlight exactly what it is that he is looking for, they say, "well, he definitely has SOMETHING to hide". So he tries to be funny, and say some light-hearted things in his profile. ZILCH. They reject him on that front as well, saying he is not at all serious and is IMMATURE. So another male reads those female statements and decides to keep his profile on a more serious plane, saying he is accountable, responsible, dependable, and hard working. Their interest in him? ZERO! They say he doesn't have a sense of humor, is too uptight, and is bragging on himself! So what in heaven's name does a male put in his profile that will get a female's attention and how in the HE!! do you please them with what you, as a male, chooses to put in his profile??? You CAN'T and you WON'T BE ABLE TO. This opinion is based on the posts and replies in this and many other threads, posted by THE FEMALES!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 17 (view)

Say, ladies, what exactly are games? Posted: 6/24/2009 6:19:03 PM
Fish Boy told it like it really is: "I would say that "games" are any time your words and actions are calculated and manipulative rather than sincere and honest." And many females have told me they are being honest and sincere when the end result was they were really being calculating and manipulative! "Stringing someone along for weeks/months of email/IM while you are waiting to see if the person you are really dating will work out." Again, many females have done this to me but conveniently leave out that they are seeing several guys but alluding that they are SEEING NO ONE. "Obviously NOBODY would want to be treated this way....the sad part is though, many (no, not all..) of the people who are so adament about saying how they hate games...what they REALLY mean is they want to be able to play THEIR games, they just don't want anyone to play any on them." Yep, happens everyday on here. And they have a big laugh when they tell you they have to go but stay on here or Instant Messenger for hours longer talking to another guy! They LOVE the game.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 26 (view)

Deal Breaker? Posted: 6/23/2009 11:47:15 PM
SagMan.........you truly called it correctly!!! A definite deal breaker for me is a woman in my age group with small kids. Another is a woman who is obese and a devil worshipper. Also some of the following have been deal breakers in the past for me, and they are as follows: 1) a woman that was MORE concerned with how much money I had or didn't have. 2) a woman who can't or won't get over her "ex". 3) a woman who has losers for kids. 4) a woman who had more issues than the New York Times 5) a woman who said one thing but did another. 6) a woman who was afraid to be intimate. 7) a woman that never heard of a KITCHEN and what to do in one. 8) a woman who had kids(boys) attached at the teat. 9) a woman who put everybody first, before me. (God and the kids are acceptable, no one else though). 10) a woman who knew I was the best thing that ever entered her life, and rejected me. That's a good start.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Messages from women you have tried to contact first, months later? Posted: 6/20/2009 9:47:01 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^What's really HILLarious is that ALMOST ALWAYS the female doesn't remeber the guy!!! lol Why so? Tons of emails everyday. They simply sort, choose, UNread/delete, while reading only a few that the pic looks good to them. WITHOUT reading the message to them, they click on the username beside it. If it's a winner *buzz buzz* *bling bling* he gets a reply. If he is not a pretty boy or looks like he doesn't have MONEY and a well-to-do lifestyle...........they say LOSER and DELETE!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 31 (view)

Why do guys expect you to immediately become exclusive??? UGH! Posted: 6/20/2009 4:11:11 AM
First of all, for the honesty and truthfulness. Secondly, I have been told many times at the "first meet" that, "oh, I have just met someone right before you"! And of course, the female sized me up for money, job position, and fancy "toys" so she could run fast as she could to the previous male. Thirdly, from what I have read here on POF and seen in real life, many females love to have several guys, each one on a different "fishing line", so at a moments notice she can give any one line a "tug" for some instant attention and the guy jumps and responds immediately. But NOT this guy! So if you're a female and before you rush to judgement, think about it, if you would have been treated this way SEVERAL times, would you not therefore want that person you just met to be honest and truthful with you and make up their minds VERY soon as to exclusivity with you, or would you really be content to be ONE of the many OPTIONS that that person has at the end of one of the lines???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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No Explanation Required? Posted: 6/20/2009 3:30:20 AM
They enjoy the "GAME" of it all. She was/had done much communicating with you by several different means over a reasonable period of time that ANYONE RIGHTLY ASSUMES that this one is being TRUTHFUL AND HONEST with me. NOPE. The kindergarten little kid mind games are Soooo much fun to them, they are playing so many, they just won't take the time, hit a few simple keystrokes, and GIVE YOU the explanation and answers THEY OWE YOU!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 151 (view)

Why women want guys to come to THEM Posted: 6/19/2009 12:31:40 PM
Wild heart you made several comments in reply: "So if they are not faulty, why are you so defensive? You still never really exactly said that you do not hold the opinion that no man is good enough for your daughters. You have not answered that specific question. A yes or a no will suffice." Simply said, you need to go back and re-read my comments on this very question. "Most parents (b0th the male AND the female think nobody is good enough for their baby). It's how it works usually." As I had stated above, in RARE INSTANCES, the male says and does these things in raising a girl. BUT, in ALMOST ALL families, the FEMALE, the MOTHER does the incorporating of the "princess mentality" into their girls. This is a FACT! "ses - You are so concerned with YOU that you are not seeing this issue as I'm trying to present it." I AM concerned with the WAY "average, good, decent, nice guys" get treated by females. My concern and the treatment is due MOSTLY to the princess mentality. "Your answers were not complete, see above." My answers WERE complete, simple, understandable, and to the point. "Yes, that is the way that things have been for many many years, but because of these forums, I started asking men out. As for effort, start driving an hour for a date, paying your own way and then you can talk to me about effort." Well.........you are one of a very small percentage of females who asks a guy out. I too have observed women's behavior, of all across the spectrum of classes of society, in all types of venues and community gatherings, as well as talked to many men to get their feedback about this very subject; it is Soooo RARE, and the only time a female is observed approaching an UNknown male OR asking him out is if he looks as though he has money and prominence in the community. Period. As far as my effort, money spent, the time involved, mileage driven, expenses thereof, free meals and entertainment for HER, etc., you have NOT A CLUE!!! I have driven two hours to meet someone for a "first meet". One said she would agree to meet me halfway, JUST ONE, and guess where her choice of place to meet was? THREE miles from her, while she cared not to EXPECT me to drive SEVENTY-SEVEN miles. Some HALFway, huh? Paying MY OWN way? Are you serious? Perhaps, two or three have bought me a freakin' cup of coffee! Whoopieee! And they ALL got a great meal and a FREE night on the town, with NO STRINGS attached! "Hey Sestruth....get off the money thing." Hey, DJ Chickie, when you and MOST, not all, women stop WANTING and EXPECTING that males have lots of money and material things, and making it their HIGH PRIORITY, I'll have reason to let the money thing go. "I have never gone after a guy for money in my life, I'd rather sit in my house and off the market than take anything from anyone, including my own family. It's pretty insulting and WAY WAY off base to continue endlessly to accuse me of it - if you took stuff I said in the wrong context that's not my problem." Guess you have the same reasoning of "hardly dating at all" that you see the need to post a main pic of yourself in a bikini. And what would be the reasoning of that, if NOT TO DATE, NOT LOOKING??? Uhhmmm.....princess mentality maybe? "Just because you got banned and had to create a new profile or three, doesn't mean we all do it." I didn't get banned, but I see that you are a very bitter and angry female when someone doesn't see things your way! "My posts for the last three usernames are still searchable under this name...that is if you have the intelligence to do a search." NOPE. Don't want to waste my precious time reading your feminist bitter, angry posts! "I stand by everything I say - I don't change my mind about much." So you're still banking your money then, huh??? "Might I suggest that you don't overreact to the point of freaking out on anyone who addresses you in any way as if it were an attack?" Most that have responded to one of my posts didn't try to blow smoke up my a$$, unlike a few I know on here!!! "Did you not do well in debate? If you know everything there is to know about me, everyone else here and all women in general then I guess there's no reason to post, is there?" If you're going to spout a mouthful of crap and nonsense then I am going to call you on it!!! "I'm sure this will just trigger another explosion of noise, personal attacks and random accusations, but let's hope not." Well, you have stated several times above that you are NOT here to date or find someone, that you have NO interest in that or in men, so you MUST BE here to explode, attack, and accuse randomly, huh??? Or are you just bitter much?????

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 140 (view)

Why women want guys to come to THEM Posted: 6/18/2009 1:53:28 PM
So wild heart just WHO attacked WHO??? YOU said: "Do you have daughters sestruth? And if you did, did you have the mentality that no man is good enough for your daughter? If you did, you just created a princess. So unless you can prove you did not raise a princess, you really have no right to complain." So YOU accused me of raising a princess but then typically made a modern feminist female about face when I called you on your crap. YOU were the one that challenged ME that my parenting skills were "faulty". "Sestruth, your response is exactly what I expected. Defensive because I dared bring up that your parenting skills were "faulty". Which I NEVER SAID BTW. " Typical retort from a female when they can't stand the male being correct and she, the female being dead wrong! "Besides, you never answered my exact question. You merely explained the other things you taught your daughters." Yes, I did. You didn't like the way I answered. It deflated your accusation. "I'm sure every other parent on here is going to say the same thing you said about "teaching them that they are no better than anyone else". Please, if everyone is doing that, how come we have princesses then?" Because WOMEN teach their daughters this crap mentality; "sistas" teach their siblings that they MUST think and act this way to play and get men; Aunts and female cousins tell them this is how you must be in order to survive in a man's world; female co-workers talk amongst themselves and spread this pervasive mental attitude like a virus; talk shows like Tyra Banks enlist the aid of females who are affluent, have power and influence, and spread this "princess mentality" worldwide. Plain and simple. "I spend alot of time observing and I've lived with a princess for almost all her life. Why is she that way? Because of Daddy, plain and simple." In rare cases, possibly. But it's OVERWHELMINGLY and commonly known that big female "princesses" teach and train little female princesses! Not Daddy. "I hear people talking about their daughters boyfriends everyday and you know what the underlying theme is? "We don't like him". I then proceed to explain to them that this is because they are young and to think back when they were 20. Some of them clue in then. Some adults cannot remember what it's like to be young. You think these youngsters don't know how their elders feel? So this gives them the attitude that their elders think that nobody is "good enough for them". But whatever." Very true, which makes the dating world so very difficult for "average" males. "You then proceded to attack me. Typical. You are just as mature as I am then." YOU want to THINK I attacked you and you want others to think the same thing, so you will look good on the world wide web. I answered your questions. You didn't like my answers. "You don't much like your daughter's generation?" If they think they are an "forever princess", NO. It's a silly IMMATURE mentality. "As for read/delete, I simply say that because men seem to assume that women don't get that happening to them. Unlike men, I can handle rejection, so you mentionning that just to insult me really doesn't come across as mature either." Females on here constantly flame the males because the males simply relate about continually getting UNread/delete and NO response. So who is the IMMATURE gender, the one putting forth ALL THE WORK AND EFFORT, or the one doing the REBUKEING AND REJECTING thinking they are an "forever princess"??? As you said, THINK about it. Hey DJ Chickie you said: "Sestruth seems to hate women in general based on well...all his posts, which should be liberating for him. He can totally not bother with any, including on this site. He continues to tho...odd." So are you STILL banking your money while the male spends HIS on YOU??? This is what many of YOUR posts said before you closed your account and created for yourself a "new identity"!!! I guess you consider YOURself an "forever princess" as well, huh??? "OT, I don't pursue men or want them to pursue me. I WILL LET THEM KNOW I have interest." YA, the ones that have plenty of money to spend on YOU!!! Oh well! Back to the thread. Cheers

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 136 (view)

Why women want guys to come to THEM Posted: 6/17/2009 11:09:42 PM
I expected as such a response wild heart from a female when the "princess syndrome" is so prevalent these days for GROWN, ADULT, SUPPOSEDLY MATURE women. "Do you have daughters sestruth? And if you did, did you have the mentality that no man is good enough for your daughter?" I have two. They were taught, trained, and disciplined NOT to have the "look at me" mentality, as if all their lives they would be "princesses"! When they reached the age of womanhood and dating my only concern was would they choose someone NICE, GOOD, DECENT! Other than that, it was/is THEIR life and THEIR choice. "If you did, you just created a princess. So unless you can prove you did not raise a princess, you really have no right to complain." NO, I did NOT create two "forever" princesses. I created two REAL, HUMAN beings firstly and foremostly. Unlike so many that have been raised, taught, and trained to be modern feminist princesses, I taught my daughters to regard themselves as no better yet no worse than anyone else. As with many males these days in regards to the way decent men are treated by many women, we/I have EVERY reason to complain, although, the way many women think, feel, and treat many men will not change. "Most of the men I have contacted on here have "read delete next" to me." Then you obviously are choosing the wrong men to contact. "You really should be more up to date on women that are not in your generation" I am. I don't like much of what I read, hear, or see of them, that or this generation.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Why women want guys to come to THEM Posted: 6/17/2009 5:44:07 PM
Much of it has to do with the "princess mentality". "Look at me, look at me, look at me." If a female is avarage looks or above, she is bombarded with emails, IM's, phone calls, approached and asked out for dates, given attention in an unrealistic way. But that's the way they like it. They can pick and choose. There is NO EFFORT in that. On the net they sort, scan, choose, unread, delete, ignore, reject, block! IRL, the same, approached by so many good, decent males, but.........NOPE, YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH! REJECT! The males come TO THEM and they love it that way. Society, on both sides of the fence, has always pushed and forced the idea that that's the way it MUST BE, as it always has been, that males must accept the challenge to do all the work, thought, effort, trying, approaching, asking, pursueing. As long as MOST of society holds to this viewpoint, it will never change. I thought that TWO people, TWO human beings were involved in a first meeet, a date, a relationship, a live-in together, or a marriage. So why then MUST IT BE that it's only proper for JUST THE MALE to do the pursueing??? I know there will be several posts from females that will SWEAR that "oh, I always approach and pursue the male". Not, nope, nada, never, nupe, zero, zilch, etc., etc. Sure, when a female sees a well-to-do guy, business owner, or rich playboy with the speedboat, motorcycle, or biggest four wheel drive, then SHE approaches HIM. She sees the THINGS she wants. To be seen in and on them. And only then. Wonderful dating world, isn't it?

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Why arrange to meet if you have no intention on actually going through with it? Posted: 6/13/2009 7:25:28 PM
I have had a few females do this to me as well. They enjoy the "GAME" of it all!!! And, if you do get a reply, or explanation about it, which is EXTREMELY RARE, they say to you that they don't owe you an EXPLANATION OR ANYTHING!!! They are so sweet, aren't they???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Would you move for him/her ? Posted: 6/2/2009 3:36:30 PM
This is much the same way it is for ALMOST ALL of the options/choices/decisions between the female and the male in the dating/relationship scenario. The female wants the male to make HER a PRIORITY while she will only make HIM an OPTION!!! Been there, done that several times, whether just dating or relationship. It's the way it has been, is now, and always will be. For instance, if she has grandkids, which most put photos of them in their profiles, this tells the male he will be EXPECTED to help babysit, care for, and raise the grandkids. If in ANY WAY he says they need to talk about that or shys away from it, he is termed as a lowlife male, as trash, and is IMMEDIATELY REJECTED!!!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Available for dating....yet not (So why do you have POF profile then?) Posted: 6/1/2009 4:00:26 PM
Same ole', same ole', same ole' bullshit! It's damn fine for a female to do it, but by GAWD if a male does it "he's a low-down dirty dog"!!!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Why do women say one thing one day and another the next Posted: 6/1/2009 3:26:43 AM
This is one of the same old lame excuses women use in order to not exchange emails with a good man, to not have to call him on the phone, so as to not have to meet him for a first meet, or to go on a real first date with him. They think that intelligent males will be stupid enough to fall for the bullshit, so they blow a smokescreen his way. Just like the most recent female here from POF that I had communication with. Twice, not once, but TWICE she has cancelled a first meet with me with a bs excuse. The second one last Friday, and after IMMEDIATELY closing her POF account, she sent me a personal email and stated that she had been seeing a guy for TWO MONTHS, but didn't have the guts, respect, truthfulness, or honesty to tell me this at the beginning of my interest in her that she was ALREADY SEEING and probably screwing this other male! And Sooooo many females in my area have done this exact same thing to me. They communicate with a male just long enough to see how much money a male has, his job position, what kind and how many vacations per year he takes, and how many "toys" he has: Harley motorcycle, new speedboat for weekends at the lake, the newest and biggest four-wheel-drive. If you're the male with all of these things, WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Women are great, aren't they???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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You're like a brother/sister to me. Posted: 6/1/2009 1:47:20 AM
This is one of the same old lame excuses women use in order to not exchange emails with a good man, to not have to call him on the phone, so as to not have to meet him for a first meet, or to go on a real first date with him. They think that intelligent males will be stupid enough to fall for the bullshit, so they blow a smokescreen his way. Just like the most recent female here from POF that I had communication with. Twice, not once, but TWICE she has cancelled a first meet with me with a bs excuse. The second one last Friday, and after IMMEDIATELY closing her POF account, stated that she had been seeing a guy for TWO MONTHS, but didn't have the guts, respect, or truthfulness to tell me this at the beginning of my interest in her that she was ALREADY SEEING and probably screwing this other male! And Sooooo many females in my area have done this exact same thing to me. Women are great, aren't they?!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Initial messages Posted: 5/10/2009 1:25:42 PM
Hey TxWheels, I totally agree with ForumSpelunker on what he stated about you, sir. I went to your profile and read it. Excellent! True statements all and REAL! I have always loved animals and wildlife. All of my life have viewed all kinds of animal documentaries and T.V. shows about all aspects of the animal kingdom and all it entails. Enjoyed your animal photos very much. Crocs and Gators are extremely powerful......and frightening but I have seen many, many shows on them as well. Fascinateing creatures! (I didn't know how to spell it!) For all POF fishes, not trying to be off topic by speaking to TxWheels on Forum but with his mail restrictions I could not email him personally. I have a lot of deep respect for you Sir. You Rock! You are the representation of the true Iron Man!!! Keep on keepin' on!

sestruth

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Major decision Posted: 5/10/2009 6:44:55 AM
AbbeyRhoades: Thank you very much for stating the following: "Relax princess, I have adult children too and just because I am a parent, that doesn’t make me perfect. (as if!) " "My apologies if you felt I was calling you out, you have your opinion as do I. A lot can be said for a potential spouse by their interaction with their children, like it or not, we all judge. I have been with parents that I disagree with their parenting, that’s my call and has also ended relationships. That includes abusive parents along with the total push over’s who garner no respect. I have no interest in changing how they do their parenting or to give them tips, I just note it and ask myself if I can live with it." "She has just as much right to want to start a relationship based on being a couple instead of the 5th wheel who gets the scraps at the end of the day." Anyone that wants to bury their head in the sand and join the proverbial ostrich are welcome to do so! And also let the same person deal with all the bull and nonsense from someone's kids, little ones as well as teenagers, that I had to deal with in two relationships for six and a half years, plus 3 other sets of kids of moms that I had dated. How enjoyable for the male to be considered an OPTION in the relationship, while it is expected of him to consider her AND HER KIDS to all be priorities for him. Anytime, anywhere, anyplace, he must and will drop IMMEDIATELY any thought or preference of plans that he had made WITH HER PREVIOUSLY for them to be together. Heaven forbid if the forever spoiled, rotten brats change THEIR minds or THEIR own plans and now they don't want to do what THEY had chosen and pre-arranged to do. And they just happened to conveniently make different plans with their FRIENDS and THEIR parents, but so INconveniently forgot to mention to you instead of the two of you getting to go out and spend some well deserved alone time together that now you must INSTANTANEOUSLY change your plans and drive them to Lord knows where since they told the friends parents without your knowledge that "well, you can do it"! Don't blame the op at all for simply wanting what is HER RIGHT in the dating/relationship arena. After all, just who are the adults and who are the children in the scenario? Who shoulders all of the weighty responsibilities of life and who plays video games all day long and thinks that life is just one big party and fairytale???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Pressing the Easy button Posted: 5/10/2009 4:36:43 AM
UNzippedPassion said: "I don't know who your mentors are but mine are my relatives who stayed together forever and still hold hands as they gaze at each other with love in their eyes. (even though they can barely see at this point) But awww it's inspiring and beautiful!" You are sooooo correct UN-P! I had stated in a forum thread (and got flamed for it by those that are full of hoo hah) that the older generations, 70's, 60's, 50's, and on back met each other initially, VERY SOON after that initial meet learned a little about each other, got married, and STAYED TOGETHER FOR LIFE!!! Were there exceptions to that rule? Perhaps a few. But good or bad, come what may, they STUCK TOGETHER! No easy buttons for them! People were REAL.......a male met and stayed with a female because........she was a GOOD WOMAN; a female met and stayed with a male because........he was a GOOD MAN! Period! Their parents set a good example for them, and trained and disciplined them as well. In the last three decades people have been the direct OPPOSITE. They don't MEET and STAY with a person because the other is SIMPLY a GOOD man or woman. It's based on money, financial, job position, material possessions, and the "perfect looks". Based on all these things, it's the EASY BUTTON for them! And on to the next conquest. Again, the people that flamed me for saying this the last time are still full of HOO HAH! Thank you UN-P: "But, I do know what you mean and I do agree that for many people if you're anything less than perfect...............you're OUT! Especially with the internet now providing so many avenues for meeting new people it's just too darn easy to move on to the next one." Very few have the courage to "say it like it is" as you do. But then again, why not tell the TRUTH? If a person does NOT have UNdesireable traits, characteristics, morals, ethics, values, does not put forth any red flags, takes care of all of their financial obligations, is NOT butt ugly or overweight, they are STILL REJECTED, as you put it, OUT, because in the other person's eyes, you are simply NOT PERFECT! I have personally experienced this soooo many times here on POF!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Doing the math: 200/25/0 Posted: 4/26/2009 10:58:43 AM
"What am I missing here? What is the science to this whole process? (if any). Do I need to find another 200 women and try to eek the 12% return out of those, until I can find someone who is HONEST and GENUINE? Obviously those who said they wanted to get together again, were just giving LIP-SERVICE, LIES, TO MISLEAD... and I can discard those. But really? No calls? No response? Nothing at ALL?!" Setuid: Very good points you made. And very valid ones at that! Trouble is, you were not the EPITOME OF PERFECTION, so you lost out BIG TIME!!! This is the sad and SICK thinking, values, principles, actions, and typical way of today's female in going about the selection, dating process. The "average", "decent", "hard working", "really nice guy" is just simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH for today's "modern" feminist female. They are counseled, advised, and admonished that he MUST be up to standard, like the standards set in Beverly Hills and on Rodeo Drive!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 30 (view)

Burn out effect of online dating Posted: 4/24/2009 7:22:33 PM
Hi clasact. You related your experience: "He was talking about they had a date for tomorrow evening and he wasn't going to go. The managers employee said, "you think she'll be really upset when you cancel your date?" The manager stated as he shrugged and flippantly said, " 'Eh, I'm probably not even going to call, she's just some woman I met on the Internet." I was appalled and chimed in and told him the I thought he was doing her a favor, that he was a coward and needed to grow a set of balls and work on his character as he seemed to have none of either. It was like just because he met her online, she was somehow less deserving, less human, I dunno, I was just stunned by what he said and how he said it. And then it made me wonder just how many other people think this" I just had to comment and say I totally agree with what you said and how you said it to him (the manager). It is sad and sick. For either gender to view and treat the other as though they were not even important enough as a human being to push ONE button on his phone to give a "courtesy call", (my wording) if he wanted to back out. We see and hear of people doing this type of behaviour each day and we think to ourselves, "how much lower will humans stoop"???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 118 (view)

What are women really looking for? Posted: 4/24/2009 4:03:21 PM
Nope! You are absolutely incorrect!!! I and many men have TRIED to be "all things to all women" if that is what you are saying. In other words, we have been edgy, we have been nice, have pushed the envelope, have expressed the "I don't give a dang" attitude, the I am strong and indenpendant, well I can think for myself, blah, blah, blah. Didn't make ANY difference...........does not matter. Spin the wheel or roll the dice to see which "attitude" a male will use/try. The end results are always the same---NO DATE!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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Burn out effect of online dating Posted: 4/24/2009 3:50:48 PM
Only have been on here for a little over a year. In about TWO TO THREE WEEKS I had the burned-out feeling. I am not an "UNdesireable male" but even so almost no female would talk to me locally. So.........increased search distance until finally reaching the point of THREE HOURS AWAY! Most at that distance thought I was insane to even TRY to communicate with them! The few that did respond said they wouldn't be able to drive to meet me halfway. Funny, most said they were going to, or had just recently driven 2 to 3 hours to meet a strange male. He DIDN'T meet them HALFWAY---they drove TO HIM!!! LOL Tons of BS! They didn't strike me as unintelligent or someone you might think would jump immediately to meet a stranger............but they did. Out of seven I have met, 6 did the first meet to "size me up" and get pertinent information they wanted. Then left me to go to the former one they had just met. Nice! So, burned out, frustrated, disappointed, rejected for frivilous reasons, take your pick of whichever description you like. All the effort, thought, time, energy, and want-to expended in this just seems like one big JOKE!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 725 (view)

would you marry for money? Posted: 4/22/2009 11:16:52 PM
To DallasFan: Thank you Sir for being UNselfish and giving of yourself and many years of your life in serving our country and doing whatever HAS BEEN and IS asked of you in order to protect ALL of us Americans and in keeping ALL of us safe, including myself! Because of your freehearted willingness and volunteerism to "step up to the plate" for ALL of us, we are able to exit out of our dwellings each day as free people, to move about and enjoy the gift of freedom, not having to be concerned that there might be a foreign "enemy" at the end of the block to cause us harm or to arrest us. My "hat" is off to you Sir! Now, as to the other matter. Think nothing of the low-cut cheap shot that mandakay took at you in trying to assess blame that ALL Military Officers, including yourself, quote, "cheat and beat" their wives/girlfriends! All sensible people, of either gender know as common knowledge that NOT all males throughout all society are "bad eggs", if you will, just the same as NOT all officers in the Armed Forces are bad eggs either. I would tend to agree with you, although I myself do not know it as a fact, that as you stated, there is far more of this conduct, (percentage-wise, my wording) in civilian life than in the Military. JMHT---just my humble thoughts

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 76 (view)

What are women really looking for? Posted: 4/21/2009 8:07:47 PM
golfgirl: So many females on POF consider the really decent, good, nice males to be unfit to date or have a relationship with. Just the SAD TRUE FACTS!!! Good men do not get bitter or angry by taking a prescription drug! Women who love only MONEY, MATERIAL THINGS, and themselves are the "pill" that results in the opinions, ideas, and "qualities" of men that you stated. I have a great attitude. The issues of males arise because of the deceit of females, so it behooves males to never again fall for their smokescreens in order to be played! I will be very selective and choose wisely, from now on, only a female who will WOMAN-UP and firmly state: "I am so different from MOST all other females on POF. I play absolutely NO games. If you will give me a chance, I will PROVE IT to you!!!" I have yet, in over a year on POF, communicating with different types of females from all across the spectrum, have yet to have ONE, JUST ONE, STAND UP AND STATE the aforementioned!!! NOT ONE!!! This is truly sad.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 712 (view)

would you marry for money? Posted: 4/21/2009 6:57:56 PM
Marial92 said: "sestruth, MSG#703 now that's a real scumbag thing to say." "you sound angry/jilted." "your attitude needs a little adjusting since it's not going to get you that far." "if other women in this thread ignore your statement, then they deserve you." So many females on POF consider the really decent, good, nice males to be garbage and trash, as your post reflects. Good men do not get bitter or angry by taking a prescription drug! Women who love only MONEY and themselves are the "pill" that is the result of your stated "qualities" of men. My attitude is fantastic in that it has been groomed by the deceit of females so that this male will never again fall for their smokescreen of lies for to be played! I will be very selective and choose wisely, from now on, only a female who will WOMAN-UP and firmly state "I am so different from most all other females on POF. I play absolutely NO games. If you will give me a chance, I will PROVE IT to you!!!" I have yet, in over a year on POF, communicating with different types of females from all across the spectrum, have yet to have ONE, JUST ONE, STAND UP AND STATE the aforementioned!!! NOT ONE!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 185 (view)

Are there any people left that date one at a time? Posted: 4/21/2009 6:24:06 AM
The really good men left in the dateing world...............DO! The rest of the men and ALL the women I have talked to here on POF..........DO NOT!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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What are women really looking for? Posted: 4/21/2009 6:17:22 AM
The guys with MONEY, guys who are well off, guys who are rich, guys with the best paying jobs/careers, and guys with all the fancy toys that women want to be seen with and in!!! Otherwise.............. all the "just average guys" would get all the dates and have all the women!!! This is the FACT OF LIFE that no female wants to read, see, admit, acknowledge!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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would you marry for money? Posted: 4/21/2009 6:02:22 AM
Doesn't it just thrill your heart to read all of the female's postings that say, "OH I NEVER WOULD", while everyone on the planet knows that THEY ALL WOULD!!!!!!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 29 (view)

Do you believe a man of today, still understands the true meaning of romance? Posted: 4/21/2009 5:48:31 AM
Do you believe a........WOMAN........of today still understands the true meaning of romance??? You're asking me??? HELL no!!! And the way the women on POF have treated me in the last year damn sure speaks for itself!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 45 (view)

How many first dates don't lead anywhere? Posted: 4/18/2009 9:41:08 PM
From army mom53: "Here's my story, for what it's worth: 100 first dates over the past 3 years; 2 2nd dates ... still no keeper Let me make it clear though -- I would have dated several of these bozos. They all suffered from the "grass is greener" syndrome. How do I know this? These dates were 3 years ago and they're still here 3 years later. " I have had the same experience as you. I have been on a little over a year and met only 7. Of these, 3 I was attracted to, and these 3 kissed and hugged me SEVERAL TIMES, OOHed and AAHed, and PROMISED to call me, IM me, email me, and said they wanted a first "real" date with me.........the NEXT WEEKEND!!! Never saw OR heard from them again! Yes, these 3 suffer from the same syndrome as the ones you met. Well, at least they got their FREE steak dinner on the first meet. They live in the same city as I do. They are STILL on here after a year, even though they find it necessary to "hide" and "unhide" their profiles from time to time.....wonder what's up with that??? Oh, and did I fail to mention that because they looked me in the eye and LIED to me, they are full of SH!T.........??? Can't leave out important facts you know!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 28 (view)

Is this really what the dating scene is like? Posted: 3/28/2009 5:42:18 PM
Hey Ben645, It takes place here on POF everyday just exactly as you had made the comments yourself in messages 13 and 16: 1. IT HAPPENS...........DEAL WITH IT!!! 2. DON'T ASK!!! 3. I don't OWE you an EXPLANATION OR ANYTHING!!! Sorry guy, that I put it straight and upfront, but that's what a decent guy gets told on here everyday by the females. "First meet", a real date, or whatever! Even with the simple tools of communication, IM's, emails, and phone calls.......they can and should.......but WON'T even hit one keystroke to explain or tell you the why not. The internet gives women the leverage to use net dating sites and men as they see fit. The more anonymous they can remain the better they like it. Plus, as happened to you, myself, and MANY other guys, they feel and state that they DON'T OWE you truthfulness, honesty, sincereity, OR THE FACTS! How sad! Of the few I have met personally, all but one were simply seeing what I "had" money and material wise to compare with the other men they had met, so that they can select the "cream of the crop", but, at the same time, tell you they WILL see you again and WILL CALL you tomorrow! They derive much enjoyment from the GAMES!!!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 17 (view)

Does a college education matter? Posted: 3/2/2009 1:42:27 AM
Does a college education matter? It shouldn't, but it is so plain to see by female's responses that IT DOES MATTER!!! For females it translates into the male having a much higher job position, higher pay and lifestyle. Thus the wealthy, rich, or well to do male is what the vast majority of women are looking for, according to the percentage ratio of the replies to this thread. Up until my posting, ONE female said it doesn't matter to her. Sad reality of today is, is that very few going to college, male OR female, don't do that much better financially than the rest of the population (except for a select few who do wind up drawing huge salaries) and many don't even get to land the job/career of their college plans/dreams. And many are no more intelligent than the rest of the work force after exiting from their college education. It all depends on the break/s they get.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 60 (view)

To Tell or Not to Tell? Posted: 2/27/2009 9:15:08 PM
"OP -- that post is a lot of malarkey. Beyond just wanting to maintain a capacity for honesty in a relationship, "secrets" need to be discussed openly as well...and if it changes the perception between the couple then so be it. Nothing sickens me worse than knowing some people are STILL trying to get away from paying for their mistakes in the past. Good choices come with rewards...poor choices come with consequences. If those consequences are far reaching and all damaging, then so be it...guess you shouldn't have chosen so poorly eh? People that hide potentially damaging "secrets" are worthless in my books. Especially if they try to justify it. I'll always believe that there is no truer test of character than to confront a "secret" in an adult and honest way, KNOWING full well it may very well kill the relationship. That takes courage beyond all measure, to see one put themselves out there for me (or all) to see, warts n' all, and they are prepared for the possible fallout. To me, nothing gets my respect quicker than admitting your human frailties and accepting whatever comes of it, rather than burying your head in the sand and hoping I never find out another way on my own. If someone ain't brave enough to face their mistakes and own them, then they ain't worth the powder for me to blow them to Hell. We all make mistakes. Own them. Face them. They're yours. Accept the consequences. Hiding them makes you pathetic and weak." THANK YOU BigDaddyJinx for having the courage, forthrightness, honesty, and sincereity to just say it like it is, the TRUTH! So sad so many so-called grown, mature, adults cannot just woman-up, man-up, and own-up to their screw-ups! Now if I could just find 1 female in my area who is average in all ways, looks, job position, finances, etc., and a decent, good woman as well, to stand up and say: "Hey, I'm different, I'm not like all the others, and if you give me the chance I'll prove it to you"! Out of hundreds, NOT ONE wants to woman-up.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

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How much is too much? Posted: 2/21/2009 7:47:47 PM
He wasn't "conditioned". He was acting and responding like a REAL, normal human being would. So let me see if I can get this straight: You are scheduled to meet someone new for the first time; so you don't call, NO communication. You wait the xxx amount of days and FIVE MINUTES before you are to meet them, you call at THAT time to see if they are still alive, if you two are still going to meet??? WTH?????!!!!! What was in your head? Why the hell did you agree to meet him in the first place? You were fine with him at the point of setting a time to meet, but wait; if he calls, happy and excited and keeping NORMAL communication open telling you he was thinking of you, asking you how you have been and looking forward to the meet with you.............Oh but that's insane, that's crazy, don't be doing a stupid thing like that!!! Good GAWD, no wonder a decent guy cannot find a decent female IF they view things in this VERY narrow-minded way. What the heck were you going to do (with him) when you met him, just give him dumb looks from across the table as you remain silent??? Everyone (that IS truly SERIOUS) about meeting another cannot wait until that person calls, says "hey, we're still on, and how are you doing"? This is the NORMAL way a NORMAL, SERIOUS person TRULY wanting and looking to date and start a relationship will think, feel, and act!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 66 (view)

Married women in the clubs and bars? Posted: 2/10/2009 11:24:27 PM
As I have always said, and as the FEMALE'S COMMENTS PROVE, they want to have one foot on the ole' fishing bank and the other stuck in the fishing pond looking for their next score. If a male does it, "oh, he is such a lowlife and trash". But, damn, if a woman does it, all other females cheer her on by saying, "YOU go girl, YA". "Hey sista, YA is such a heavenly angel". "Keep up the good work, YOU are Soooooooo sincere, honest, and Christian".

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 282 (view)

Dating is all about income Posted: 1/28/2009 11:15:39 PM
"You need a heck of a lot more than money to attract a resourceful, attractive, quality woman. We have our own cash now. What else do you have to offer??" Many males who are predjudiced against or snubbed are really great catches and that SHOULD attract attractive, resourceful, quality women, but the truth of the matter is, IS 99% of the time IT DOES NOT! So what in Heaven's name, pray tell, does a male have to have IF MONEY is not the decideing factor. (Money, job position, material things are all encompassed when I stated the "IF MONEY"). Yes, many males have responsible, dependable, accountable, honest, hard-working ethics; no matter what their "job" is for a living. But it ALMOST ALWAYS boils down to the " YOU KNOW, I just don't think we're a match". And all the male realistically lacks is a lot of MONEY!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 210 (view)

girl who wants to take it slow! Posted: 1/25/2009 6:35:19 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And I'm sorry to hear you can't stand being WRONG while all us males are proved RIGHT.

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 402 (view)

SHORT GUYS Posted: 1/25/2009 4:29:44 PM
It's sad and sick to STILL see the same ole' same ole' same ole' EXCUSES that a female can conjure up to not date/relationship a "short" male. Even after the example thread that Jonathan Doeman posted comparing how there is NO DIFFERENCE between a male requireing a very specific weight in pounds in a female, and no more than that amount for him to feel like a man, with, how females REQUIRE and DEMAND that males must be a blah blah height for them, AND NO LESS, for if not, then heaven forbid "she just won't feel like a woman"! Several EXCELLENT examples were used to show the fake, shallow, double-standards that females have applied to and against short males. But it goes so much further and deeper than that in the predjudice against many males , in how females say a particular male is UNdateable. What I have pointed out is that MOST of these standards are not about a male being ugly, fat, bald, no teeth, an alcoholic, drug user, a stalker, predator, axe murderer, child molester, etc., etc., that ANYONE, male OR female would not be attracted to. NO, it's the SHALLOW one hair out of place, one misspelled word in typed conversation, being slightly nervous in a first meet, his car is not brand spanking new or the high-end model, he doesn't own a motorcycle, his job doesn't bring in the amount of money SHE THINKS it should bring in, or his company position is not as high and visible enough as she REQUIRES, he lives in an apartment or a simple older home which is a fixer-upper, and on and on and on............blah, blah, blah. One itsy-bitsy teensy-weensy minute speck that she has against him and it's the ole' "I just don't think we're a match", "we wouldn't be any good together", "we just don't have anything in common", "YOU KNOW, I just don't feel any chemistry", "you're just too intense and I am not looking for anything that intense". As you read all of these EXCUSES, they really do sound petty, shallow, fake, double-standardish..................AND IGNORANT, don't they???

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 130 (view)

Why meet right away....Lets get to know each other first. Posted: 1/25/2009 9:21:27 AM
"s'cuse me!! if you're going to quote me - Please don't put it out of context! That line about "they all looked good..blahblahblah" was AFTER I mentionned 3 specific men - I most Certainly did NOT say "all" men! I mentionned those specific cases as My reason for wanting to Meet sooner than later! The Good Guys I've met were who they said they were, no red flags .. the Only thing we didn't have was chemistry." No, I did NOT put it out of context. I READ the postings on this thread, as I do on all of the ones I post on. Anyone who is READING the whole thread and all postings knows/knew what you said (and you spoke truthfully) and how you were implying it, as well as why I stated what I did. No, you didn't say "all" men. I didn't take it that way at all. I was not offended by what you said because the men did you wrong. I must say here though, and this is the TRUTH, that unlike most females (but NOT ALL) that will not disagree with a female sister when she is wrong, I will AND DO disagree with a fellow male WHEN he is WRONG. "If you're going to use my word to Generalize - then here: (generalize this) SOME" I prefer to use the word that describes TRUTHFULLY the number of females that have been UNtruthful, DIShonest, and played mind games with me.........many, many, many. If you call that word (many) a "generalisation" or a "paint brush effect", so be it. I simply call it THE TRUTH!!! "SOME men and SOME women are Not who they say they are - I have met more who are decent than those who are not!" Then I am happy for you. If YOU would have put as much effort, time, energy, thought, and want-to into POF as I have had to do simply because I am of the male gender who MUST make first contact, in initially trying to communicate with women on here and receiveing VERY LITTLE to none response for all one's effort your frame of mind or take on POF would be ENTIRELY DIFFERENT! Trust me! "sestruth - if you're going to quote someone - don't just take a few words from the middle of their post! It is totally unfair and misrepresents what I was saying!" First, no one on POF copies and REquotes the entirety of anyone else's posts. Too redundant and who would read it? No one. So only what is just the very premise is quoted/copied and used. Secondly, this is the WORLD WIDE WEB. Sorry. I did NOT think it up, invent it, or create it. It is what it is. Does it suck in sooooo many ways.......yes! But if we put ourselves on here, we ALL are fair game for anyone else! This is the sad state of the internet. Like they all tell me...............cheers have a beer on me!

sestruth

Joined: 10/23/2008

Msg: 127 (view)

Why meet right away....Lets get to know each other first. Posted: 1/25/2009 7:42:36 AM
"Yup .. they all looked good, sounded good .. and we even "seemed" to get along. I'm sure if any of them were who they portrayed online, I wouldn't be on this site anymore." I agree, if females as well, were who they portrayed themselves to be online as well, I wouldn't be on this site anymore EITHER! "I don't spend lots of time "getting to know" anyone online these days. A few emails, a phone chat or 2 and then we meet. Imagine .. dating "in person" .. just like the "good old days" hehehe" Yep. Dating "in person" is the ONLY WAY that dating will ever work. It has been proven time and time again by both genders, by online dating AND by doing so in the "real" world as well...............face TO face. Funny thing though.............each time I have said this, (but not to YOU) that dating was REAL in the "good old days", and then suggested this to a female on POF in simple conversation, she trashed me by her feminist responses............hehehehehehehehehe "We emailed for about 3-4 weeks then met. It worked for me. I could never see emailing a relatively local person for months at a time. That to me reeks of someone that is either playing you or cheating someone else." I agree with this also. When I would bring this to the attention of a local female that was corresponding with me, once again, I was "trashed" by her. Yep, she was definitely playing me and she had one foot on the "pond bank" while the other was in the ole" proverbial "fishing pond", searching for her next "fishie"! "Now more than ever, I am convinced that it is best to meet after a couple weeks after some emails and phone conversations." Exactly. Why waste your valueable time on someone who lists YOU as an OPTION, while YOU are listing THEM as a PRIORITY? "I think there are a lot of good writers out there and a lot of good talkers who can be quite deceiving as to who they really are." This is EXACTLY WHY I would NOT buy a computer and use/try online dating for so many years, even though at many of my friends urgings, male AND female, saying it was the "way to go". (With modern dating) I finally gave in, have tried it (net dating) for about a year now. Sadly, and much to my dismay, frustrateingly, what I had known for so long came to reality for me on POF within the first week! I am well aware that the so-called "good writers and good talkers" reside on both sides of the gender fence. But obviously, I am only interested in ones of the female type. And there sure are TONS of the female type on here!

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