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 Author Thread: Signs that a woman is single?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 84 (view)
 
Signs that a woman is single?
Posted: 3/14/2008 10:51:23 PM
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If she's a lesbian, really long fingernails.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 207 (view)
 
Is kissing a important part of intimacy???
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:57:30 PM
Sex isn't much fun without kissing. It's doable but not near as enjoyable. Not even close!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 251 (view)
 
How long for cunnilingus?
Posted: 3/9/2008 9:31:27 PM
you need to work on your skills, dude!!!!!!!!!!

what if she doesn't climax but keeps telling you "it feels good don't stop". I find my cheek/tongue muscles start cramping after 30 mins, and my neck starts to hurt after 45 min. Is there an appropriate time after which a gentleman can quit gracefully without losing face?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Masterbation...How much is Too Much???
Posted: 3/8/2008 3:19:27 PM
When i was a kid, people said masturbation would make you go blind.

I said, "I'll do it till I need glasses."

Upon turning forty, and needing reading glasses, I decided to do it till I go blind.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Can Only Have Orgasm With A Vibrator
Posted: 3/8/2008 3:15:08 PM

s it possible for the clit to become desensitized because of frequent and heavy use of a vibrator...

if that were true, the captain knows a few wenches who'd never be able to cum without one and yet they're extremely orgasmic.

no offense, dude, maybe you need to get better skills!!!!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 142 (view)
 
Why Can't Men Appreciate A Woman Telling Them The Truth??
Posted: 3/8/2008 1:27:04 PM
Looks like it didn't take long for Dr. Jekyll to turn into Mr. Assh*le.

Looks like confirmation you made the right call. Good job.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 7 (view)
 
When a man from your past has been drinking.....and calls you
Posted: 3/8/2008 11:40:28 AM

I have an e-mail I typed up but haven't sent him. It highlights all the reasons we should remain nothing more than working colleagues.


A simple message might be better. "Don't drink and dial!"
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
 
ex girlfriend
Posted: 3/6/2008 7:51:31 PM
It's a co-dependent sickness she needs help with.

Groups like Al-Anon are for people who have been around drinkers, druggers, abusers, etc. and developed problems from the association if they didn't have them already. It's hard to understand if you haven't been around it and someone is her position will often tell you she doesn't need any help. You can't fix her and you're wasting your time if you try. Only she can do it when she sees what she's doing isn't working. Some do, some don't ever.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 69 (view)
 
How do I get my guy to throw me around a little?
Posted: 3/6/2008 7:31:36 PM
Looks like you have some sub qualities you'd like to explore.

Some guys don't get it. He may be like the guy who's wench said, "Give me eight inches and make it hurt." So he fvcked her twice and hit her in the head with his shoe.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 61 (view)
 
How do I drive him wild in bed?
Posted: 3/6/2008 7:15:08 PM
Want to make your man scream when you're in bed????



Call him up and tell him you're with the captain.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 134 (view)
 
do men want LT relationships with Bi-women?
Posted: 3/6/2008 7:07:56 PM
Bi wenches have great long-term potential. Have had several multi-year relationships with some. Had two bi wenches move in after my divorce and stayed together for years till they moved to Austin.

Here's 3 good reasons:

1-Bi wenches share something in common with men. They like pvssy, too.
2-Bi wenches bring them home friends to play with.
3-Bi wenches tend to be more willing to try new things sexually.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Was I used?
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:52:02 AM

Wonder who paid for the trip?


Isn't that beside the point if he really enjoyed the trip with her along?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 52 (view)
 
submissive women
Posted: 3/3/2008 8:16:42 AM
Sex, like ice cream, comes in many flavors other than vanilla. Sub wenches are a favorite flavor of the captain, but as with ice cream, the captain takes a Ben & Jerry's outlook.

Many men are intimidated by subs though more are probably intimidated by doms though both can be lots of fun in completely different ways.

Society has also feminized men, but not the captain. (In the captain's firm voice) Now, bend over and assume the position... lol.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Was I used?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:46:57 AM
Since when did relationships come with a guarantee?

It sounds like you had a pretty good time but she may not have been ready to move to the levels you expected and felt pressured? Regardless, quit b*tchin and whining.

If Janice is her real name, using it here was not a real classy move either. Grow the f*ck up! Try to see what you can learn about yourself instead of analyzing her!

Sorry this wasn't what you wanted to hear, but think about it.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 226 (view)
 
Does Friends first ever really work?
Posted: 3/3/2008 7:30:29 AM
WHO CAN ANSWER THESE FIVE QUESTIONS?

1-Is a relationship a failure if it doesn't lead to sex and/or romance with that person?

2-What if you really enjoy the wench's company or conversation and they're just a helluva lot of fun to have around?

3-What if they introduce you to others you become sexual and/or romantic with and you do the same for them?

4-What if you are both good at advising each other on matters of the opposite sex?

5-What if you have sex with them occasionally, or not at all, cheer the other's successful relationships and are sad for them when things don't work out for them?

Too many people become trapped by their own limited expectations and fail to see beauty outside their their little box that becomes their own little prison.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 223 (view)
 
Does Friends first ever really work?
Posted: 3/2/2008 9:46:55 PM
don't sell wench friends short. the captain's had wench friends, some he never had sex with, who spotted wenches checking out the captain and followed them into the bathroom to chat them up and arrange introductions. never had a dog do that but would be interested in finding one that did.


If all I wanted was a friend I would buy a dog.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Love verses reason - which one wins?
Posted: 3/2/2008 9:37:38 PM
convene a meeting between

1-your brain,
2-your heart, and
3-your lust

let each party have it's say. alliances may be formed, but.........

ALWAYS give your brain final veto power because your heart and your lust are both notoriously unreliable. either, or both, will lie to your brain.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 221 (view)
 
Does Friends first ever really work?
Posted: 3/2/2008 9:26:35 PM
yeah, what perfectwench said:


whether it is a bootie call or true love I don't want it if it isn't at least User Friendly. If I end up emotionally involved I want it to be with someone who becomes my best friend.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 51 (view)
 
saying i love you during sex??
Posted: 3/2/2008 8:56:42 PM
the captain doesn't take hearing the "L" word seriously unless he hears it out of bed.

used to have a neighbor, when i was a young sailor, older wench who would say before jumping me bone, "tell me you love me. you don't have to mean it. just tell me." it made her really hot to hear it and we'd band our pelvises raw while loudly professing our love for those nites. we both knew what it was and it was never a problem.

it sometimes pops out of wenches' mouths in the heat of passion. the key is recognizing the context in which it's said. it doesn't really bother the captain, though one of me wench friends will run a guys ass quick for uttering the "L" word. she complains to the captain when she notices them getting big puppy eyes that she knows it's coming and she's about to terminate his ass.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 36 (view)
 
threesome etiquette
Posted: 3/2/2008 8:38:01 PM
yeah, rosewench, there are some protocols if you want to make sure everyone has a good time and no one feels left out. miss manners didn't cover it, though the captain's been told that amy vanderbilt, to whom he's distantly related, was once a wild wench in her time and suspects she was well versed on the subject.

guidelines simplified:

1-don't monopolize or exclude!
2-everyone gets equal time being the center of amorous attention.

ignore the above and it can be a real disaster.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 31 (view)
 
threesome etiquette
Posted: 3/2/2008 11:52:06 AM
how much of what you said is based on personal experience and how much is based simply on what you've read an heard?


I've got to say that the threesome fantasy is grounded in some kind of anal obsessive objectification, where one person want absolute control over members of the opposite and the same sexes, so they can feel like some sort of god while it's going on.


most ffm, in the captain's life, was initiated by the wenches. no one had absolute control and it works best when the parties are more about giving than receiving. as far as fantasy goes, the captain did feel like a god when it was his turn in the middle, but each of the wenches had equal time feeling like a pleasured goddess in the middle.

btw, honkytonkguy, lots of good sex involves the rich use of fantasy.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 29 (view)
 
threesome etiquette
Posted: 3/1/2008 9:46:44 PM
it's true, some wenches bring on wench friend to turn the guy on, and sometimes to help out her friend. but many wenches do threesomes because they like p*ssy as much as d*ck. the captain's had more long relationships with bi wenches than straight ones and they brought lots of wenches to our bed without being asked because they wanted to seduce them.

the captain's done his share if tag teaming and dp but usually with someone else's wench. don't really have jealousy issues, me wenches just preferred the other party to be female.

since threesone etiquette was the topic, let the captain offer a few tips for apprentice seamen:

1-it works better to let your wench pic the other party.
2-never get so carried away that you ignore your wench and let her feel insecure. if anything be extremely reassuring and show her the most attention.
3-take turns being the one in the middle. the pitfall of you being in the middle is if the other wench gets all over you and your wench feels excluded. then it'll be a long time before that party happens again. best to start with the guest in the middle facing your wench. you can kiss her neck and back even enter her from behind. then put your wench in the middle.
4-save your nut for your wench unless she's pretty experienced with threesomes.
5-remember that if your wench and guest have a great experience, it'll be much more likely to happen again. be a pig and ignore your wench and it probably won't.

happy sailing!!!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Is this just unhealthy boundaries or is he just spineless?
Posted: 3/1/2008 2:31:09 PM
Two options, other than denial:

A-Get a tankless hot water heater that never runs out of hot water and be ready for higher water and energy bills, or

B-Have a respectful family conversation acknowledging the limitations of budget and hot water along with the wishes of others to not be stuck with a cold shower.


He sounds like a nice guy. But nice guys often get abused by uncaring people if they aren't assertive and he may be lacking in that area. All of us have areas we need to work on and that may be one of his. Fortunately, people can learn to be assertive. There's lots of books and information out there.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 25 (view)
 
How do I get to know a busy woman?
Posted: 3/1/2008 2:19:47 PM
Sometimes timing is everything. Remember the tale of the tortoise and the hare. Go on with your life but stay in touch. Situations change and if you're patient and stay in touch, you'll be at the top of her list, unless she's just trying to blow you off but be positive and assume it really is timing unless she says otherwise. If she's interested, but over-scheduled, and many single moms are, then patient persistence, without being a pest, often wins in the end. Good luck!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 56 (view)
 
No time for a relationship -Cop Out?
Posted: 3/1/2008 12:37:07 PM
What does having a profile posted on a dating site have to do with it? There're all sorts of people here with all sorts of interests. People of dissimilar interests meet in lots of places and find out the other person's needs are different from their own. Perhaps people looking for something different from you should just stay home, too. Right? They shouldn't go out and meet anyone unless their ready to commit?


if they have a profile on a dating site...and say they have no time for a gig... its a cop out.


One value of dating sites is providing people with similar needs and interests to find each other. The captain has absolutely zero interest in finding a wench with unequal needs. The captain's profile is pretty clear about what he's all about. It gets far fewer hits than other guys who pledge undying devotion and that's just fine. But those who respond tend to be wenches with similar needs and boundaries which is exactly what the captain intended. Yes, the captain's aware he'll draw some grief over that from the judgmental crowd. Hey, bring your A-game!

If someone gets blown off, for whatever reason, why not just keep fishing rather than whining, criticizing the other person, and saying their reasons are a cop out? Maybe you're just not their type or what they're looking for. Does that in itself imply a moral failing on the part of your intended?

It reminds the captain of a joke about a man approaching an attractive wench, complementing her looks and personality until she runs his ass. Then he walks away calling her a dyke b*tch. Was she any different, or had only HIS perception changed? Was there something wrong with her just because she didn't go for him?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 52 (view)
 
No time for a relationship -Cop Out?
Posted: 3/1/2008 10:07:30 AM
The captain is very upfront about his time constraints as are many others in similar situations. The original post of this thread said nothing about starting out a relationship being very attentive and later becoming distant attributing it to time constraints. That would be a red flag if this person had a history of strong starts and weak follow-up. But that's not what the initial post of this thread was talking about.

Go ahead, .Marc, attack the captain when your logic is weak. That's always a classy move. The captain re-read your posts and stands by what he said. Btw, you can be unemployed, broke, have time constraints, and still relate to someone. It doesn't take money as much as creativity. Lots or wenches would be just fine with sandwiches in the park with an unemployed, broke intern knowing full well that it's just a temporary situation. Why don't you try it? It might be more fun than re-reading Bridget Jones' Diary.

Betlettwench makes excellent points about common courtesy and being attentive even with little time. That doesn't take much time at all and the point was well made. Excuse the captain while he goes and returns a few messages.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 45 (view)
 
No time for a relationship -Cop Out?
Posted: 3/1/2008 8:13:49 AM
Forgive us, .Marc, if some of us don't choose to let you, or those like you, be the arbiters of when we have a relationship.


The way I see it... it is better to take time to work through any extraneous crap that happens to be going on in your life before starting a relationship.


I have clients who are full-time caregivers for aged/sick parents. They must be present in the home and often get what little interaction they get online. Imagine not being able to leave someone alone in the home to go to the store for groceries and having to get someone to come in any time you go anywhere. happeenurse, in your profession, you should know this.

People with limited time should be able to state their limitations plainly and seek those who either understand or who have similar situations. Those who don't want to hear that shouldn't whine about it or condemn those who are different. They should simply find someone of like mind.

We're not saying everyone should be like us. Why are you saying everyone should be like you? How dare those of you like .Marc say someone should wait? Wait until we can meet some standard of yours? Who the f*ck are you to judge?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 22 (view)
 
No time for a relationship -Cop Out?
Posted: 2/29/2008 4:41:08 PM
echo skinthief, and others who brave those moralizers who seem to believe the world work just fine if everybody thought like them.

skinthief, and several wenches before him, stated succinctly that some people go through times in their lives where certain demands limit their options. the moralizers will point their judgmental fingers and criticize because they seem unable to grasp that normal people may want more than just to masturbate alone.

many of the moralizers deny those who think differently their right to be considered normal, saying they have "relationship and commitment issues," as if the moralizers alone are qualified to determine what is right and normal for everyone.

maybe some who accuse people of having commitment issues are sniveling bottomless pits of neediness for whom no affection is ever enough. work on yourselves first!!!

JMFO

 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 47 (view)
 
ankle jewelry
Posted: 2/29/2008 3:31:50 PM
the captain also loves a gold chain around the waist of a wench with an hourglass figure. omg. the captain just just got a stiffness in me wooden leg.

the captain, admittedly a leg man, loves anklets and toe rings since wenches who wear them tend to be more femininely pretty and attendant to details. even if they do it for themselves, the captain appreciates it.

 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Toe rings
Posted: 2/26/2008 7:20:59 AM
a pedicure or a toe ring is sexy because she didn't give up on her feet as just transportation. she made them as femininely pretty as she could and that thinking itself is verrrrry sexy.

some wenches let their bush grow wild, while others trim or shave. some pay little attention to their undies, while others take great interest in how they look under their clothes even when no one sees. it just makes them feel pretty and/or sexy. does that in itself make them loose or promiscuous? only to adolescents who haven't grown up. but, it is an attractive trait to the captain.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 25 (view)
 
FLEX SEX
Posted: 2/26/2008 6:53:50 AM
sounds like new pc speak. what a joke!!!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Need some help
Posted: 2/26/2008 6:28:27 AM
it's true, you don't want to be her b*tch. but, hell, you're both young. what have you really got to lose by giving her another chance?

while you don't want to waste your life on a nut case, she might just be someone who just needs a little bit more effort at understanding. if she turns out to be too deeply flawed, you can cut your losses. but she may be a pearl of great price. nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 127 (view)
 
Married Women Looking For Sex
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:42:57 PM
there's married wenches looking for sex on POF? arrrrrrgh! the captain's shocked! shocked!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 167 (view)
 
Can you be to wet?
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:25:21 PM
simple answer... HELL NO YOU CAN'T BE TOO WET!!! run his little d*ck ass off!

a real man likes his wench wet and wild!

the captain suspects you may have a sensitive g-spot and should learn more about it. a spewing g-spot can turn a bed into a bayou. but it's a sweet swamp.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 926 (view)
 
Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:07:42 PM
aside from other issues, which there are many, the captain will ALWAYS prefer a highly motivated amateur over the most highly skilled professional.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Need some help
Posted: 2/25/2008 7:30:34 PM
pamelawench and englishwench are right. you left out a few key points...

1-why did she say she dumped you?
2-why do you think she dumped you?
3-how old is she?

the captain notes that you're 19. sailors and wenches in your age bracket are notoriously fickle.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Ralph Nader considering an 08' run?
Posted: 2/24/2008 9:09:28 PM
if you've survived a car crash since the early sixties, thank ralph nader. if he's running on ego, he won't be the first. but the captain believes he's gaming the system to get attention for the causes he fights for.

there's an excellent movie that's been shown on tv about nader called, "an unreasonable man." you may disagree with him but no one can honestly call him a sell-out or a phony. this country could frankly use more like him to make both parties accountable, which presently no one does very successfully.

he has as much chance of being elected as ron paul, but he has a right to be heard... and we should listen to both of them tell us what the ass kissers we elect won't!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 44 (view)
 
detach...with love
Posted: 2/24/2008 8:53:23 PM
AWESOME THREAD!!! everyone who's ever been in an abusive relationship should read through this thread, especially those who seem like a magnet for abusers!

the captain has seen far more people find solutions through al-anon and similar recovery groups than paid therapists. anyone searching can find groups in their area. just realize that 1)you're not alone, and 2)help is available... for free!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 74 (view)
 
bi-sexuality - r woman doing this to be more attractive to men?
Posted: 2/24/2008 8:17:35 PM
in the vast majority of cases, definitely NOT! they're doing it for themselves.

but, when they're doing it for men, it damn sure works for the captain!!!


 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 203 (view)
 
What Songs Put You In the Mood?
Posted: 2/24/2008 8:08:34 PM
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Otro dia mas sin verte

it's the spanish version of just another day. check them both out on youtube. really awesome played back to back.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 184 (view)
 
What is your favorite part of Sex
Posted: 2/24/2008 2:46:49 PM
two things:

1-when it's just two people, it's the connection: her scent, her touch, taste, the sounds she makes, the way she moves. sometimes her breath, the scent of her body, or taste of her juice is absolutely intoxicating.
2-seeing how many times and in different ways the captain can make his wench climax.
giving pleasure brings the captain great pleasure as does helping his wench discover new things about her body.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Interviewing for a Relationship
Posted: 2/23/2008 9:44:18 PM
that's an awful deep analysis. almost expected to see a few powerpoint slides or a flow chart.

the captain's had lots of IB, FB, FWB relationships over the years that have been great for everyone involved. no one went away mad. the IB's were never a problem for the captain because he didn't alter his schedule for them and they were nice company. wenches attract the attention of other wenches. squiring a beautiful IB wench almost gets a man attacked by other wenches. competitive creatures, they are. lol.

[u]some wenches get a wise captain lots more sex than he would ever get on his own. they can spot other wenches noticing you that you might miss and then talk you up to them in the bathroom. you won't get that kind of help from most gf wenches unless they're bi.[/u] a wise captain knows the value of having IB wenches in his crew!!!
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 496 (view)
 
would you marry for money??? - O - ???
Posted: 2/21/2008 5:31:28 PM
the captain's never needed to employ marriage as a means of upward mobility though it's perfectly respectable if both parties are clear about their expectations. texas wenches call it striking gold at the altar but the practice has existed for millennia.

one of the captain's cousins is an elderly man of considerable means who single-handedly has been feeding the wave of young asian immigrant citizens to this country for many years. they get citizenship, education, amazing job placement because he's a retired ceo, and he gets lots of kinky sex. many have stayed years beyond the period originally agreed and all have done well. we always look forward to seeing if he's got a new one at the family reunions. lol.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 121 (view)
 
Threesomes gone wrong
Posted: 2/20/2008 9:44:15 PM
it tends to work better when yer wench picks another wench she's attracted to to climb aboard.

a wise captain will make sure no one's ignored, if one wench wants to monopolize him; though sometimes the wenches monopolize each other, but the captain's not one to complain about that.

perhaps due to inexperience, the guy made a bad choice in wench #2 and continued to handle it badly. shouldn't have gone like that. my guess is that wench #2 wasn't as into kissing girls as the guy had hoped. it should have been handled better by the guy and wench #2.
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 215 (view)
 
Adults living at home with Mom and Dad
Posted: 2/20/2008 8:08:17 PM

...as we get older, we need to be responsible for ourselves. In my opinion, everyone needs to know what it's like to live on their own. Paying your own bills forces you to become more financially responsible & makes you understand the value of money (ie, I bought myself a nice watch instead of paying the electric bill--now, the house is dark). When you are forced to do your own laundry & cook & clean for yourself, you become self -reliant. Knowing that you can do all these things on your own will give you more self esteem & make you a better partner for someone in the future. Male or female, when you move in with someone or get married, you will know how much work it takes to get things done & you'll naturally be more appreciative if your partner does for you & you'll know how to do for them.


well said, skylarwench. middle-aged kids living off their parents are being enabled to lifetime failure.

whether living at home, or not, the key test is whether people are giving or taking. if they're middle-aged and still immature takers in their relationship with their parents, how can they be expected to act maturely in a love relationship?
 pleasurepirate
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 158 (view)
 
Does Friends first ever really work?
Posted: 2/20/2008 7:40:57 PM
the captain doesn't buy that friendship is some lower level of relating to each other that we should desire to rise above with someone we desire.

people get so hung up on moving to a higher level and getting serious that they forget the value of friendship. talk to people who've been happy together for generations and the common denominator is that they're friends. people claiming to "love" each other treat each other in ways one should never treat a friend.

[u]without friendship, what you conceive as "love" is temporary at best.[/u]
 
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