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 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 403
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.Page 24 of 24    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24)
Kudos to you xeotide...I applaud your ability to get your point across
intelligently and without ridicule.
I myself am for the decriminalization of pot...I am fortunate to live in a
state that just recently voted to decriminalize small amounts for personal use.
Wonder if the same people that decry the legalization of pot would feel the same
if alcohol was once again made illegal?
Anyways...good luck to you!
Boo
 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
Msg: 405
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 4:54:35 PM
re: Msg: 527

LOL. Love it or leave it....

No it's not one of the finest governments on the planet. There are many others that don't go around playing planet wide bully. The US Federal Government is rogue for many reasons beyond the scope of this topic. It has expanded into a global empire. It bombs people like you and I for its benefit and the benefit of those connected to it. It kills in the 'war on (some) drugs'. A new president comes in promising change and inside just a few days manages is to kill normal every day people who were just trying to live their lives. The federal government breeds enemies every day.

But back to love it or leave it, the original federal government was not to do anything with regards to the substances we consumed, or used in any fashion. You might want to actually study some of the founders' writings. Only Hamilton might find some joy in the way things are today (especially the central bank and ignoring the constitution with regards to money), most would be appalled. A good many even grew hemp, some likely even smoked some weed themselves.

But I see you still avoid the question. Who is the victim when someone smokes some pot? Who requires justice? Who's been damaged? Who is supposed to get compensated? What does locking a person in a cage for the use of a plant on himself achieve?

You can continue to construct fictions in an attempt to mask your ignorance in ridicule. It has become clear you do not have the intellectual capacity to discuss the principles, questions, and so forth but would rather go for a low level elementary school yard style. I have no interest in such a thing. So, you're welcome to the last word.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 408
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 6:21:15 PM
I'm sorry...if I disagree with something my government is doing...I don't have to leave.
I can attempt to make changes...and I can complain loudly if I disagree with laws that
ORDINARY people make.
love it or leave it....ahahahahahahahaha!
good answer.

 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
Msg: 409
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 8:29:18 PM
So you're going to make a lame attempt... well good, now we are getting somewhere. we can continue.

Nobody gets victimized when pot is used, except the poor user.

There are infinite numbers of way people can harm themselves. What makes pot special? absolutely nothing.

No crimes against others ever occur due to pot addiction.

Ahh, so you decide to bring in the old drugs bring crime... Those 'crimes' are due to the government's prohibition. Just like they were when alcohol was prohibited. It's the state that makes criminals out of people by making the substance illegal. It's criminal organizations that spring up when a business becomes illegal and loses the ability to operate openly in society. Whatever happened to the crime around alcohol? Vanished the day prohibition did. Or maybe you actually believe that the film "Reefer Madness"... lol. The scary black men will smoke pot and have sex with white women according to the materials of the time. You do know that's how it got made illegal right? Such absurdities are the root of the prohibition.

Nobody gets damaged from pot usage.

People get damaged from lots of things, including stuff the government forces on us. But I know, you believe all of that to be myth. Your government luvs you. Maybe the government should regulate our entire diet under your logic of 'might cause harm to someone'.
The drug war is a failure. It's turning Mexico into a failed state. Just this past year over seven thousand people have been killed in the border region. The toll in lives and treasure alone are rather absurd for a futile effort to keep some people from getting high.

The rest is your usual garbage.
 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
Msg: 412
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/21/2009 6:28:07 PM

Xeo, I'm really starting to feel sorry for you.
You do seem like a nice guy. But you gotta grow a set of balls and suck up the victim attitude thing. The way you moan, I would've thought you were living in the black hole of Calcutta, only for that the average resident there doesn't piss and moan about life nearly as much. Look I'm sorry you got your ass resized by Uncle Sam a while back, but you gotta get over it and move on dude. And for God's sake, stop trying to constantly reason with people when they abuse your ass. Being a doormat does not become you.


Yes reasoning with you is pointless, that doesn't mean watching you respond to reason with insults isn't entertaining. It's pretty clear that you don't understand reason, logic, or anything else, merely the use of force. Although that does explain your views regarding authority. You really might think about improving yourself. Trying to be better than a socialized animal. Then again you may be too far down the eugenics line that Bertrand Russell discussed for that to be possible.

While convincing you is impossible, I get the benefit of introducing ideas and points of view that many may never hear otherwise while having the side benefit of you looking like a fool. Not that I am above insulting you in return, I probably couldn't do a better job than you do to yourself.

There is nothing about being a victim in realizing what the state really is, in fact it is rather empowering because the state loses it's primary tool, the grant of authority. Just because you're too scared to have opinions, to question, to otherwise disagree with those grant authority over you doesn't make those that do to be moaning or victims or anything else. Maybe you'll understand if the government bans motorcycling (because it's dangerous and someone might get hurt) that if takes something away from another person it can take something you care about away next. This is why people like myself who would never smoke pot will defend the right of other people to do so. I don't ride motorcycles either but you'll also find that I defend a person's right to ride one just the same. That is because it is the same thing, the right to live as we see fit so long as we do not harm others.

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"Gradually, by selective breeding the congenital differences between the rulers and the ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs will become as unthinkable as an organised insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." - Bertrand Russell
 sd_matt
Joined: 7/9/2006
Msg: 413
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/21/2009 6:57:27 PM
Prediction;
We will have to wait for the baby boomers to die off before pot will be legalized by the Fed.

As for the "gateway" theory. That's a big load. The conservatives ought to sit on an AA or NA meeting and ask the participants if they would have found themselves abusing if their drug or alcohol of choice didn't exist.

Here's my favorite part;
If I see something traumatizing and go to a shrink to deal with it, I know that I can find one that will hand me a prescription of pills within my first two visits. I'm sure many of you, like me, know someone who walked out of the office in a similar time frame with a prescription for something that has less than ten years of research or experience behind it. Who cares if a prescription is the first course of action? As long as it's legal its not a problem, right

I see an image of soccer mom driving the minivan with the DARE sticker sporting a big Xanax smile; it's OK; the doctor prescribed it. Kinda 50s isn't it? Who says we haven't come back to the old fashion values?
 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/22/2009 8:43:35 PM

I was beginning to wonder if you could get properly pissed off at all.

Sorry, I am not pissed off. You're a very weak troll. If you think you're lame insults are worthy of getting pissed off about. You're nothing compared to the trolls of usenet at its peak. Simply put, your skills suck. You are transparent. A good troll isn't. Then again I cannot expect much from someone who sees the sort of people who become elected office holders and their employees and thugs to be his masters.

So indulge me here xeo, instead of screaming that the strawman is coming to molest your hind quarters again:
According to this logic, you would therefore defend not only pot smokers and bikers, but also the right of a person to view child porn online, assuming 1) It were available to view totally free of charge and in a totally undetectable fashion, and 2) That person, in no way shape or form was detected in his actions, and/or promoted the cause of child porn in any way whatsoever, and 3) That was all that the person ever did that was illegal, because.....

At least you're learning when you are constructing a strawman but what you are doing here is more of a red herring. Given your posts you probably find the arrest (and cheer for conviction) of 15 year old girl who took naked pictures of herself entirely valid. ( http://wearecentralpa.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=69372 ) After all, the law is the law, and she's guilty of creating 'child pornography' so she has to be put in a cage and her life ruined (as a sex offender) for her own good.

As to your 1,2 and 3, they make no logical sense what so ever. Children are considered incapable of making their own decisions and thus the parallel you try to construct fails immediately. Adults who use various substances, ride motorcycles, sky-dive, and an infinite number of other things a nanny state may deem 'dangerous' and make illegal are seen as capable of making their own decisions, at least for now.

Now I am real big on live and let live bud, believe me. But, are you beginning to see how this 'politically correct lets-all-be-free laissez-faire b/s attitude run amok' of people like you is overtly promoting the putrefaction of the individual from within, and that inevitably becomes society's burden in the long run? Again.... you need a more balanced attitude.

It's a shame that the only way you can even begin to counter my arguments is to construct your own extreme versions of them and then complain that the argument you just created is too extreme. It's laughable really. It makes me miss the time that the internet was smaller and dominated by people with intelligence. People like you are easier than shooting fish in a barrel.

Anyway, society's problems with drugs are entirely from the results of government's prohibitions and the use of government force to make people pay the costs of those who damaged themselves.
I suggest you learn the the Non-Aggression principle. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle ) Although I doubt you have the mental capacity (after years of dumbing down through the government schools and a mind mushed by television and the mainstream media) to even grasp key principles of liberty. After all, you're an adult child that needs the heavy hand of government to prevent him from hurting himself.
 evad6230
Joined: 8/20/2008
Msg: 423
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 3/21/2009 9:34:13 PM
If you smoke pot around your kid, you're an a$$hole. Never mind the age of your child, you're an a$$ nonetheless. Kids don't need to be expossed to a drug at any age. If they do, the cycle of drug use will continue. And then their kids will be the next in line. Pot is dangerous and you people who disagree are a$$hole$. Don't try to make it seem okay to smoke it by saying it's not addicting. It is. Or by saying it's not dangerous. It is. Stop fooling yourself already. If it wasn't addicting or dangerous it would be as legal as cigarettes or alcohol. Goodluck if it ever is legalised. Shame on our government if it ever is.
 Kingty
Joined: 3/9/2009
Msg: 425
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 3/29/2009 8:54:51 AM
Does that make you a bad mother,no but it sure as hell eleminates you from the good mother category. i was a child who was brought up around weed smokers, so even though I never thought about smoking weed when the chance presented it self i didn't hesitate to jump on it, that was 12 years ago and I can't stop when i try and it makes me feel bad about myself, good thing i don't have kids, might be from all the weed smoking. Bottom line yo should try your damnest not to bring anything around a child that would hold them back. And weed can stop you from getting a good job, good women, and it makes you lazy an neglect important things. With all the good things you doing to help your child progress why show them that that's that exceptable let her decide that on her own, Go smoke in the garage!!!!
 xeot
Joined: 10/25/2007
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/1/2009 6:19:42 PM

doing drugs is illegal and as a role model do not be surprised if she has some confusion about obeying rules


Only if the government is a parent and an adult is its child for that is the only applicability of such a 'rule' dictating what a person can or cannot consume.
 forum101
Joined: 2/5/2008
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Posted: 4/7/2009 10:16:38 PM
dustie has left the building. Dear Heart, doing illegal drugs, do in fact make you a bad mother. Stand in line, your nominated for "Neglectful Mother of the Year". You need to go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass "GO", do not collect $200. Stupid people on here, with your fried out brains, and addictions, and forms of escapism. If life is so bad, and you need to get high to escape, It's time to rethink your situation, get an effing grip on reality. Leave the dope alone. Get a job, get a life, get a hobby. Those are not illegal alternatives. You break the law, they take your baby. "The Dingo ate your baby" stupid crap people try to pull to validate their weaknesses and failures.
Maybe the police have patrolled this site, and pinned OP. You reckon?
 sd_matt
Joined: 7/9/2006
Msg: 435
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/8/2009 12:44:40 PM
Kinda off topic

I glanced through AB 390 and read this paragraph. Read the second sentence. Do you think this means that one would not be able to cultivate it to make clothing? Do you think this is to protect cotton? I dont mean to go to conspiracy land here as I just want to clarify.

25400. For purposes of this chapter, "marijuana" means all parts
of the plant Cannabis sativa L., whether growing or not; the seeds
thereof; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated
cannabis; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative,
mixture, or preparation of the plant, its seeds or resin. It does not
include the mature stalks of the plant, fiber produced from the
stalks, oil or cake made from the seeds of the plant, any other
compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of
the mature stalks (except the resin extracted therefrom), fiber, oil,
or cake, or the sterilized seed of the plant that is incapable of
germination.
 sandra47ok
Joined: 8/16/2006
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/8/2009 1:23:38 PM
in my opinion you sound like a wonderful mother and i feel that the man you mentioned was just being hateful because you wouldnt meet him
 FreschFisch
Joined: 4/5/2009
Msg: 442
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/10/2009 12:40:04 AM
Well yes but I would have expressed it differently and not made the correlation with your child. Sorry he did that. I would just say no to you because its against the law.
 TOMic bomb
Joined: 10/5/2008
Msg: 443
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/14/2009 6:37:42 AM
yes, you a very bad mother because you smoke marijuana. you're endangering their lives, they could be taken away from you, while you are stoned out of your gourd you are a brain addled mindless zombie and lastly marijuana use is unpariotic. it hurts our country and cost taxpayers money. dummy.
 DudeistPriest
Joined: 3/30/2009
Msg: 444
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/14/2009 7:28:34 AM
It doesn't make you a BAD mother, IMHO it does make you a bit irresponsible. The things you mention are normal, basic parenting and as such won't win you any awards. Some things are expected of parents.
The problem, again, in my opinion, is that we teach more by example than buy words alone. What's your example? It's ok to break the laws or rules you dissagree with?
I'll use my life as an example. I used to smoke up to 3 packs of cigs a day. I don't have to wonder why all 3 of my kids are smokers now do I? (please don't tell my ex I admit she was right!)
Or what of some one that tells their kids to be racialy tolerent, and then avoids interaction with people from different ethnicities?
Kids don't come with user or owners manuals, so outside of blatant neglect or abuse, no one should judge anyone elses parenting.

In response to smoking weed being unpatriotic and making you a mindless zombie, our last two presidents both have admitted drug use in their past and they both got elected, TWICE! and of course it made John Lennon a complete idiot! get a life.
 charliedude72
Joined: 3/1/2009
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 4/15/2009 5:29:36 AM

ummm..its not ignorance that i judge people for doing drugs whilst bringning up a kid... more common sense than anything.. just because i don't touch the stuff and i judge people who break the law..ddoesn't make me ignorant.. just makes me a law abiding citizen lol.


It makes you a robot... Just because something is law doesn't make it's right! Would you're "opinion" change if the law changed? Right and wrong can be different than legal and illegal... :)
 Shoeluvr
Joined: 4/3/2009
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I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 7/4/2009 2:30:04 PM
I have mixed feelings about the subject. Marijuana is far less dangerous than a lot of the legal controlled drugs out there like Oxy-Contin, and should be legalized for medical use ONLY!!!! As far as her being a bad mother. Well, as far as I'm concerned, anything that impairs your motor skills, or judgment while caring for a small child cant be good, and if this story began with her saying that while in her care the child was injured while she was high on marijuana ... all of you would be singing a different tune. Shame on you for telling her that it's ok!
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