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 TheyCallMeMrAwesome
Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 119
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hey, if she is a lesbian, fine, no girls in the bedroom!
If he is gay, no boys in the bedroom
and NO I don't want to here about your sex life! GAHD!
and if he is a vegetarian, I am revoking his man card
and i will punish you for calling me sexy!

Okay, time for seriousness
I'd be disappointed but accepting
Either way you are my child, But you are in no way sleeping in my bed
don't want to be raped by my own son!
 24DegreeAngel
Joined: 2/26/2007
Msg: 121
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Posted: 10/11/2008 10:55:24 PM
For any other pulling the "Christian" card.

I believe Jesus was a great and beautiful man despite not being Christian. The reason he was so great was because of his love and compassion for all regardless of their differences. I really don't get how his infinite love perverted into some of the ideas we have today. If Jesus was even half of the perversion I've heard come from Christians mouths then I wouldn't respect him in the least.

The bible says slavery is OK.... that someone working on a Sunday should be put to death... that no one should touch a dead pig's skin... that different crops can't be planted next to one another and one can't wear two different types of cloth. Everyone I know is a sinner that should be stoned to death based on literal translations from the bible for things that make NO sense in our world today... and for that reason most of those parts are ignored today as the are just pointless dogma and ritual over top of the real teaching of LOVE without judgment. Jesus would have never tried to save someone... or change someone... the beauty of his ultimate sacrifice was that he did the exact opposite of any of these things.

WWJD? Love his gay son or daughter anyway.
 Pleasurelimits
Joined: 3/13/2005
Msg: 125
how would you react if your son /daughter told you they where gay
Posted: 11/9/2008 6:40:08 PM
hey joolsy, I would be interested to know when you picked up on your child's orientation, as a firm Darwinian I don't believe that homosexuality is normal for those who are as it would mean to decline of the species through limiting reproduction, not sure on all that yet but it would be interesting if there were definitive signs for a parent.
 Pleasurelimits
Joined: 3/13/2005
Msg: 126
how would you react if your son /daughter told you they where gay
Posted: 11/9/2008 6:53:05 PM
Joolsy your support is all she needs and you give it unconditionally, as for religious piety I always worry about fanatics in any realm of life, even though I lean toward homosexuality being a behaviour not a genetic predisposition which is why I asked the previous question. If being a christian means I would reject my child if he/she declared a sexual tendency on the gay side then I don't want to be a christian. I have like many others been listening to the diatribe coming out of Indonesia where the Bali bombers are being lauded as heroes, they killed 200 people for Allah's sake, OMG............fanatics.
 cOuNtRyGiRl816
Joined: 8/21/2006
Msg: 133
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Posted: 11/12/2008 8:28:47 PM

introduce her to me, perhaps i can help the situation ;)

all joking aside, i think its fine to have a gay daughter. id feel more comfortable as a father knowing my daughter was gay. i know what guys can be like.

having a gay son on the other hand!


Whats the difference?
 jovinman
Joined: 6/14/2008
Msg: 141
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Posted: 11/26/2008 3:43:52 AM
Came across thread, and I liked it. Most on here are very, very nice people. A few come across as self-proclaimed prophets.. no offense. I am a gay christian. I accept Jesus as my savior. That does NOT mean that being gay is evil. I am not a mistake and never will be. Neither will I judge people. I love people...no hate or prejudice. My opinion is mine. Not to vent to people. Just me... Sorry LOVE Ya'll
 cw35
Joined: 4/8/2005
Msg: 152
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Posted: 11/27/2008 6:27:58 AM
Someone should see a psychiatrist. You obviously have some serious delusions regarding homosexuality. I seriously hope you aren't raising kids because they'll obviously turn out to be bigots.
 cw35
Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 11/27/2008 7:07:14 AM
kitten: I see. So it's a "sin". Well, I should have guessed your "reasoning" was due to religion. Why people use the bible and religion as an excuse for their own insecurities and hatred is beyond me but it proves my point that "god" was created so we could justify our own evil ideas. I just wish more people would have the ba**s to admit what type of people they are and stop hiding behind religion. By your so called logic that would make god a "sinner", imperfect and disgusting in his own right but since he created gay people but since he's a fictional idea, the point is moot. Since homosexuality isn't a choice, it hardly qualifies as a "sin" anyway. Not to mention the bible doesn't clearly state any real opinion regarding the subject. It's a very vague work of fiction which can be used to validate almost any position (which is how it was purposely designed). It would be a very chaotic world if we followed the rules in the bible to the letter. It seems, however, that people only seem to want to follow the parts that work for them and not the whole thing which leads me to believe that even the so called "believers" think it's full of garbage. Case closed.
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 158
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Posted: 11/27/2008 7:14:58 AM

I would do all I could to encourage her to change her mind and seek to lead a normal life. Most likely I would have her approach the Church to seek help so she could renounce this choice.


hahah, good approach..seek a "renunciation of gayness" and ask for "forgiveness of sin" from a place where a good number of the priests are pedophiles & child abusers..
 cw35
Joined: 4/8/2005
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Posted: 11/27/2008 8:20:37 AM
kitten: That's obviously a lie because only religions declare something is a "sin". What exactly formed your opinion that being born a certain way is a "sin" if it wasn't religion or our christian based society? I'm curious to hear the answer because if someone were to actually condemn someone else without any basis at all that would be even more disgusting. Maybe it's just sheer ignorance but I doubt it.
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 163
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Posted: 11/27/2008 8:43:24 AM

I dont even go to church much less read a bible. its a sin in my eyes. this has nothing to do with a bible. did i mention one? no. I said its a sin IN MY EYES. even if it were accepted by god it would not be accepted by me.


wow, seems to be a pretty 'mild' so-called "sin" to me.

but if y'all want to get your knickers in a twist & 'denounce' people, so be it

yet most of the people that say that see nothing 'sinful' about dropping bombs on unarmed civilians and killing them as long as "their country" says it is "right & proper " to do so..

"my country, right or wrong"..and we are so "right" to kill people in the name of patriotism..

hmmm, really make one wonder about 'human values'..
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 170
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Posted: 11/27/2008 11:10:17 AM

It is simply something we dotn know how to really handle becuase its a disgrace to us or we do not understand it. i


yeah, still don't get why it bothers you THAT much..you would find this more of a 'disgrace' than one of your straight kids driving drunk and killing people, for example?
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 179
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Posted: 11/28/2008 8:19:30 AM

As far as the drunk driving thing you spoke of as apposed to gays I guess I would put them on the same level as far as disappointment in the child goes.


getting drunk and killing someone (as I posted) would be "on the same level" as being gay?

WTF??? you think it's a "sin" to be born attracted to the same sex??

being 'gay' would be 'as bad as' selfishly and recklessly getting drunk, deciding to drive anyway, & ending someone's (or more than one person's) life?

I think you need to work out your hatred issues towards gay people..
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 180
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Posted: 11/28/2008 8:22:24 AM
LOL :)

I'm fairly sure that many children of gay parents end up being 'straight'..

don't have hard stats here, but I sense that the percentage 'split' of gay vs. straight would be about the same as the children of 'straight' parents..

people don't 'choose' to be gay or straight, it's the way they are born..

If it is a 'choice' based on the role model presented by their parents, then why do so many gay people come from "straight" parents?

stands to reason..until quite recently, virtually no gay couples had kids..(and still very few do) so the majority of gay people were children of straight parents..?
 lovestolove1963
Joined: 12/31/2008
Msg: 201
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Posted: 1/10/2009 12:28:21 PM
I agree. My son is gay and that is a hurtful thing to say.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2009 3:52:51 PM
Ahhh........I see Queen Kitten has spoken again.
All must abide by her standards or be damned to hell.

Someone asked how Kitten could call it a "sin" to be homosexual without it relating to religion.
I'll tell you why.......because she isn't smart enough to think of any other word to fit !
She just spouts the same crap over and over.
Remember when your Mom used to say........"Cuz I said so".....
this is Kittens mantra on life.
She don't like it........therefore.......it's wrong.

I really feel sorry for any child to have a parent so bigoted that they would "know better to tell me such a thing"...........
 TampaRays
Joined: 7/12/2008
Msg: 211
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Posted: 1/10/2009 4:26:02 PM
That would be the worst thing that could happen to a father, his son being gay.... I'm pretty sure you can beat it out of them.
 Quazi 100
Joined: 3/2/2008
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Posted: 1/10/2009 4:32:03 PM

ok...I hear the argument that gays were "born that way"....so I ask...what do you homosexuals supporters think should be done with pedophiles and beastiality lovers who ARE BORN THAT WAY?....because if you exist I asure you THEY exist...these people feel the same way you do and they cant help that they do....so what should we do with them?....kill them?....lock them all up?....dont get me wrong I'm not defending any of them and would never- I am a parent- but is it so hard to imagine in about 150,200 years that THEY will be pushing beastialty rights and pedophile rights just the same as gays are pushing for theres now?.....150,200 years ago noone could have imagined that gays would be so excepted.......ever heard of the man-boy club?....question....would you tell a 14 year old boy and a 25 year old man that they cant marry?.....what if they love each other and are "born that way" and just want the same rights as everbody else?....these ideas are already starting......theres child porn all over the net now........pedophiles cant help what turns them on because there "born that way".....question....would you homosexual supporters be ok with a pedophile looking at child porn as long as he didnt act on it?.............I am a parent and all of this scares the hell out of me...............I hope you will answer my questions respectfully and not attack me


I'm gonna try to address this post....

How do you feel about rapists?
Where do they weigh in on this debate?

If you do a bit of psychological research, you'll find that rape, pedophilia, and bestiality, etc. have very little to do with sex. They have to do with control. Rapists and pedophiles, for the most part commit their crimes because they feel a lack of control over their life. Anxiety builds up over time, and the need to take control grows. What better things to control than women, children, and animals? The people we are talking about here have serious mental issues.

About the 14 year old boy, and the 25 year old man....no they shouldn't be allowed to marry. When the CHILD becomes an ADULT, he would be free to do what he chooses.

As far as the child porn goes, again....children are very easy to control, and can be manipulated without raising much suspicion.....I may get roasted for this, but to me, pedophiles trading child porn, would be equivalent to little boys trading hockey cards...who has the best.....competition, power....illness.....not sex.

I believe that rapists and pedophiles are created during childhood. Emasculation, by parents, siblings, friends, bullies, internet....I could go on....creates anger and a need so great for control, and power, that they strike out at the easiest targets.

Now for homosexuals.....I believe that homosexuality arises from a combination of nature/nurture. But......I have a close friend who stated he was heterosexual until he was 13. He and his sister, who was 11 at the time found a Playboy that belonged to their father. They looked at the Playboy, and things got out of hand. My friend felt so guilty about what had happened (it was consensual, and the sister never had a problem with it) he swore that he would never touch a woman sexually again....and as far as I know, he hasn't. Unless the homosexual has mental issues, like the pedophile and rapist, they do not prey on women, children, and animals. Nor do they post child porn on the net....I think you're barking up the wrong tree......
 rubyk
Joined: 12/26/2008
Msg: 219
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Posted: 1/10/2009 7:16:42 PM
that the most bs thing i have ever read
 Quazi 100
Joined: 3/2/2008
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Posted: 1/10/2009 8:03:42 PM

I have never once said I wouldnt love them. What i did say is that I would badly be disappointed in them and angry. And their partner would never ever be allowed in my home. I realize in some cases its not the childs fault but it still would have the same affect on me. Don't expect me at the wedding and dont bring them to my home


*Notice to all homophobes: part of "love" of your child is acceptance. Every one is different, and they cannot be programmed to YOUR specs.*

Please don't start talking about morals.....I talked about pedophiles in my last post....on a very general level.....I can get much more specific......

If a child of yours was gay, is it possible that you could feel "defective", because you have produced a "defective" offspring? Is that why the partner wouldn't be welcome in your home? An "in your face" reminder of your "defective" child.

You don't want homosexuals in your or your kids lives.....why? Do you think you, or your kids might catch it, like a disease? Speaking of disease, are you afraid of that too?

I have an 84 year old relative who is homosexual....this relative has never come out of the closet, except to his family....has never been married, or had children....and is the sweetest, nicest gentleman one would ever want to meet. We are talking about sexual orientation......right?
 Quazi 100
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Posted: 1/11/2009 10:57:39 AM
I have to agree to this. But i wouldnt send her to church to get help I would send her to psychiatriast. I guess I'm badly against it. and if my daughter or son ever told me such a thing I would be extremely mad. And if they were adults when they told me I would tell them to seek help. Its just so wrong, in my eyes, for that kind of behavior. Maybe some cant help it. I really dont know but I have always believed it was a chioce they made on their own. It would be a choice for my child that I simply would not accept.

Op did the right thing. Its just I myself couldnt have been as easy going as op.

I saw a movie on tv of a true story that happen in real life. It was sad becuase the son was gay and told his parents. they did not accept him and threw him out of house. The boy ended up committing suicide. it was sad story. unfortuantely I guess I would be like the parents in that movie.


Kitten:

I really hope that you don't know anyone who has ever committed suicide. I don't care about moral, immoral, good, bad, or indifferent....the pain of a death....of someone leaving your life forever, should overshadow your pain of a sexual orientation that lasts a lifetime.....that person would still be in your life.

You say that you've always believed that homosexuality was a choice they made on their own. How did you come to believe that? Have you ever contemplated that whoever taught you that could be incorrect? The people that taught me stuff were wrong about some of it. And, times have changed......

Fact is that if you sent your daughter to a psychiatrist, they would send her home....homosexuality has not been a mental "abberation" for a while now. From where I sit, as a heterosexual, and uninformed, one of the biggest problems homosexuals face today, is how society STILL views them.

Send her to church, that would be a different story.....they would likely try to "talk her out of it", but from my interactions with homosexuals, I get the distinct impression that the orientation is not negotiable, because it can't be negotiated. Homosexuals are as homosexual as heterosexuals are heterosexual. So....we have a girl in a church, being lectured about her "sins" ( please don't mention the church) and she agrees to "reform" and renounce her "sins". And she does, for a while...and she's totally miserable.....that would be when she ended up seeing a psychiatrist.

Now, think about this....this girl is miserable, because she is trying to follow her mother's "standards". This girl is an adult...should she not be "allowed" to set her "own" standards, and live her life how she wants to live it, without being made to feel guilty.

Isn't it a bit selfish for a parent to impose their ideals on an adult child?
 compleat_man
Joined: 10/3/2008
Msg: 237
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Posted: 1/11/2009 1:05:03 PM
^^

LoneStarstar, the problem is you make sense and are logical

that will never make any difference to someone full of hate

so let them be..let them stew in their hatred..

I'm pretty sure some of these would also be KKK types and/or would be (or were, if old enough) supporters of the "anti-miscegenation" laws prohibiting marriage between 'Caucasians' and 'Negroes' that were only repealed in some US states as late as the 1960's..

let the haters, hate..you and I can't change that..(sadly)
 MsMicki
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Posted: 1/11/2009 3:16:48 PM

For the ones that are, I dont understand it so therefore im a bit negative. You cant believe in something if you dont understand it.


Actually.......u can.......it's called compassion.
One doesn't have to understand another human being to hope the best for them.
 Quazi 100
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Posted: 1/11/2009 6:34:35 PM

And just a reminder for your "parents": we are responsible for the welfare of our children. And not just your individual set. Even in 2009, it takes a villiage to raise a child . That's why God blessed us with them. He didn't say: "Here, you have nothing better to do..have a kid." He put before us a life to mold, in the way that our parents were given the same charge.

This isn't about letting them play with dolls, or video games. "Just let them play, as long as they're quiet." We need our children to understand that we love them, and not just the ones we raise in our households.


Bringing this back up in bold, because the man is so very right.....

I'm sorry for your loss.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2009 6:47:12 PM

let the haters, hate..you and I can't change that..(sadly


this coming from the woman that has spouted her views so viciously she has admitted her own children would be in fear of telling her they were gay.
and would never let her gay child's lover into her home......let alone her heart.

talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth....
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