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 bcsofnc57
Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 251
Cave man days, bring'em backPage 13 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)
OP, everything you have said has been demeaning. The whole idea of women deep down want to be controled by men is rediculous beyond words.

The idea that just because he is male he should be in control, I don't think so.

There has never and there will never be a time in my life where I will allow a man to control me. When I say never I mean never, not from birth to death, will a man control me.

I come from a long line of women who were born with working brains and do not need men to tell them what to do.

I think that insecure men are the ones that need women that want to be controled. They want to feel like they are more than they are.
 SweetnSassyNatureLover
Joined: 4/11/2008
Msg: 258
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Posted: 7/9/2008 11:20:09 PM
calling some who posted here idiots is true.

Really? Why is that? How do you determine if someone is an idiot or not? Is it your personal opinion? Did you find their IQ numbers? Did you give them a mental capacity test?

In turn, me calling you and idiot was not demeaning towards you at all? Because from my standpoint, having viewed your sentence structure, vocabulary, and spelling abilities, you are not even near the intelligence of most of the posters here.

But, knowing the meaning of what an idiot is, I can tell you that no poster here is an idiot, so calling any of the posters here would be demeaning, and not truth. I think that you are an ass.

My intended meaning of ass:
A vain, self-important, silly, or aggressively stupid person.

Which would not be demeaning.

Do you think that cave men were idiots?
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Translation - I may be an idiot but that's ok, if I am considered an idiot then I have alot of company and can enjoy idiot converstion - wanna join?

And why argue with an ass? Hypothetically speaking of course.
 SweetnSassyNatureLover
Joined: 4/11/2008
Msg: 261
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Posted: 7/10/2008 11:42:09 AM
Vulf - Well put. And music has alot of truth in it (so your a rockhead? ).

The only true idiot (in my opinion) is the one who either can't or won't learn. I know for me the only time I fail is if I fail to learn.

Funny, usually it's when we are younger that we think we know everything and can't be taught, that through life experiences we grow and realize we don't have all the answers.

I had all the answers when I was teens/twenties . I have thankfully grown up enough to know that's not true. Some (despite aging biologically) never mentally mature in this area and become set in their ways so to speak.
 SweetnSassyNatureLover
Joined: 4/11/2008
Msg: 262
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Posted: 7/11/2008 3:06:29 PM
Think of it this way.

Taking control in the bedroom starts in the foreplay. And we all know that foreplay starts long before we make it into the bedroom.
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Some wise and intelligent words!!!! And the more foreplay, the better the end results!
 bcsofnc57
Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 263
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Posted: 7/11/2008 7:14:13 PM
jeff1024: Thank you!!! Nice to see a man that is secure about himself.


have you ever left it up to a man to decide all the details of a date wheather it was a birthday or any other special occasion? If you have and I'm willing to bet you have, you were controlled in THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. I'm not shouting or angry just emphazing my point.


No I have never left it up to a man to decide all the details of a date, special occasion or anything else for that matter. If it involves me, what you can bet on is I will have equal or greater control of that situation. I am not going to let someone control me just because that person is male.

You mention trust, why is it that you think women must give up control to a man to prove she trusts him? Why shouldn't he give up control to her to show that he trusts her? Bottom line I trust myself and do not need another "father" to "guide" me through life. I have had a couple try to control me, and they were soon referred to as an ex. I had rather be alone forever than be with some man that is so insecure that he has to control me to feel like a man.

The reality is some women like men to control them.
Some men like women to control them.
Most people do not like to be controled and do not try to control others.
 ChocolateNutt
Joined: 6/25/2006
Msg: 267
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Posted: 7/15/2008 8:58:53 PM
Wow bcosfnc57 get a grip on yourself.

By not ever letting someone else do the planning for something and just enjoying the ride along, you are cheating yourself of some great experiences. Also, you are refusing to give the other person (not just a man in a romantic relationship, but even friends) an opportunity to do something special for you or to display their own personal talents and preferences.

That seems a shame to me.

Nutt
 ChocolateNutt
Joined: 6/25/2006
Msg: 271
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Posted: 7/16/2008 11:39:09 AM
Wow RockHunter and Smuggler, it doesn't sound as though you find dating or women in general very pleasant. Why are YOU here? And that's an actual question, not meant to be argumentative or rude. I really hope you find someone who gives you a better impression of women.

"Are you strong enough for me" seems like a foolish thing for them to put, but it's just another attention getter--like mine is I like that I love chocolate.

I don't think strong means obnoxious. I dated a man who NEEDED a relationship so badly that every time I asked him his opinion or what he wanted to do (like go to a movie or the park, etc), his answer would be what do YOU want to do or he'd try to figure out what I want. What I really wanted was for him to tell me what he wanted or thought--which was why I asked in the first place.

We even took our children too the park once--I asked him what time he wanted to go and suggested for lunch and walk through the zoo after. Turns out his son needed a nap shortly after lunch, but he didn't mention that and so we had a naughty, cranky child the whole time. I would have been happy to go in the morning or evening if he'd only said that would suit him better, and my child was old enough that it made no difference to her moods and behaviour. He wasn't only willing to try to guess what my opinions are, he was also willing to inconvenience or not look after his children's best interests to try to please me---which was TOTALLY unnecessary silly.


In that instance, to me, strong enough means that he cares about me and is willing to discuss issues and work through them, but not that he is willing to give up all his own beliefs to please me. I expect a man to expect me to respect his opinions and beliefs just as he respects mine.

Just my thoughts.

Nutt
 bcsofnc57
Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 274
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:58:34 PM

Wow bcosfnc57 get a grip on yourself.

By not ever letting someone else do the planning for something and just enjoying the ride along, you are cheating yourself of some great experiences. Also, you are refusing to give the other person (not just a man in a romantic relationship, but even friends) an opportunity to do something special for you or to display their own personal talents and preferences.

Trust me, I have a grip. I just can't understand the concept of wanting to control someone or of letting yourself be controled.

I think men that want to control women are very insecure. Women who want to control men are also insecure.
 karma1160
Joined: 6/10/2008
Msg: 281
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Posted: 7/20/2008 11:28:39 AM
Women do not want someone who does not ask her what she thinks. Women do like it when a guy has a plan though and has put effort into arranging the plan as far as arranging a date. As far as having an aggressive stance to get "with someone", and then what ? Don't you want someone who feels comfortable and wants to be with you? As far as someone who takes the choice out of being with someone on a close level and just takes charge like a bulldozer NO WAY. There is a difference between pursueing someone in a assertive way (which yes I do think women like that when the time is right ) and coersion and game tactics that are self centered and disrespectful. This is something that you will learn hopefully so that you can have a mutually rewarding relationship.
 grapevine
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 284
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Posted: 7/23/2008 6:17:52 PM
I love a man who's in control, which, from my perspective, means he takes initiative in making solid, intelligent, informed decisions.

Which means he takes the trash out without being told to do so.

Now, THAT'S "control."
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