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 bigsexyteddybear
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Hey I don't understand why women have to look at it like its controlling, trying to tell her what to do etc. Its a PREFERENCE for some of us men. Its not really different than liking blonde's over brunets, or big other thin, tall over short. But the one part that does make this different is that it is changeable if the lady chooses. Many ladies I talk to tend to do what the man they are seriously dating prefers. Geez, is it that much more different than doing anything that might turn your partner on? Not really. You women really need to stop making this an issue about control. I mean its really simple. Say I liked to date women with long hair and I meet this lady and she has lovely long hair and look gorgeous. But then shortly after she shaves her head bald. Same person, but much different appearance. One that I don't find attractive...so now what? She says, its my head I will do as I please...yes it is, doesn't mean I want to date you anymore I am not attracted to you now.

OK maybe here is another example this is a big roll reversal. I am big hairy guy, women that date me know I have a really hairy chest. The women that date me mostly comment on it and how they love it. But I did have one lady ask me if I would shave it off for her since she didn't like hairy men. I flat out said no and never saw her again. I am not going to shave my chest for anyone. I come hairy and this is what you get. Now if you want to trim a bit I don't care but its not all comming off. Its like buying a hairy teddy bear and then shaving all the hair off, what was the point in buying a bear? Some women love men with hairy chests, why, if you asks them they often say, is masculine.....yes read my lips, they say is masculine looking... so the next time a guy doesn't want to date a lady without hair below and 'he' feels it makes her look like a young girl, its not a turn on....just remember its a preference and its just like any other preference any of us have about anything!! No more so than not wanting to date a man with a tiny weenie... its happens all the time its all comes back to the same differnce...preference. Actually a much better and closer example is facial hair on men. Some ladies love beards, goatee's etc. other like it clean shaved. In my case, I would be up for what my partner likes but I prefer a goatee or beard since it does hurt my face to shave all the time. So just think of a mans facial hair like your bush and how your preference or lack of it matters...LMAO!

 relaxedtimede
Joined: 10/17/2008
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Posted: 11/4/2008 12:43:51 PM
I had a girl do a Brazilian wax for me and surprised me by putting my hand down her pants. I hate to say it but it freaked me out. It was just very unnatural and made me stay away from her. I just was too smooth and make me feel perverted.

Needless to say she got upset and dumped me. I prefer a landing strip and my pet peeve is no hair around the butt.
 TampaRays
Joined: 7/12/2008
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Posted: 11/8/2008 1:37:28 PM
That's the problem.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/8/2008 5:13:22 PM
I honestly don't understand you're use of the term "trend"....
Do u realize some of us started shaving long before it was a so-called trend or fad?
Do u honestly think that women shave......because others do?
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Do u have facial hair because other men do? Do you wear that leather jacket because others do?

and I am real damn confused how u think a woman letting her peach get fuzzy again is anything but a compromise? If your woman had never tried giving head before....and decided she wanted to try it with you......would you tell her no? or dump her because she was willing to experiment with you?
If your woman normally wears jeans.....and she notices that you "noticed" a woman in a dress....and she goes out and buys a dress to wear for you.......is she suddenly a "follower"?
If your girlfriend told you your cologne gave her a headache....would u refuse to wear something different?

People do things in relationships for each other......they compromise to please and to be pleased....it is what help make a relationship work.
My last b/f preferred a little fuzz below...no biggie.....I grew fuzz. He wins and I win cuz I got lots more attention where I wanted it!
 bigsexyteddybear
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Posted: 11/8/2008 9:25:05 PM
It's hardly a fad or trend to want to be clean.


So why don't you shave your head then? I mean I love smelling a woman's soft hair, love running my fingers through it, the smell of her shampoo the feel of it all over me...so why is so hard to think I can't feel the same way about her bush?

I am just so lost as to this almost phobic response that public hair is unclean, it really no more dirty and even less so that your hair on your head after you plaster it will jell and hair spray and then stand outside in traffic and pick up all the particulate matter in the air. At least your bush isn't full of jell, hydrocarbons and smoke smell....LMAO!
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/9/2008 7:56:34 AM
Clears up? not really.....will never understand any person that is so set in their thought process that they would give up a chance at happiness over such small issues as a woman wearing a dress for her man.

quote BigDaddyJinx: I'll be one of the first to loudly exclaim that compromise is essential for any relationship to work. However, what you've referred to here is not compromise in ANY way at all. It's selling out. It's allowing you to no longer be you, just to suit someone else other than you. It's a desperate way to claw at acceptance from someone. If they don't accept you as-is, where-is, then they are not for you.
Then how can any compromise not be considered "selling out"?

and you contradicted yourself.....on the cologne issue......by not wearing it around her.....you are compromising.....whether you want it to be a compromise or not!
So.....let's twist that around. You are in a LTR.....and the doctor tells your woman she won't get as many yeast infections if she shaves her hair (which can tend to hold in moisture).....do you end the relationship if she does?

Did it ever occur to you some women change their "hairstyles" as often as we change the living room around? Some of us like to switch it up....smooth for a couple days....light fuzz a couple days......, etc...no different than men do with facial hair.
Sometimes I wear panties......most times I don't...sometimes I wear a thong....and sometimes, hell I wear my man's boxers..... just depends on what mood I'm in.....and has absolutely nothing to do with what other women are doing. Switching it up......is being true to myself....cuz that's "who" I am......a woman of many facets.

BUT.....why is it that you are not "following a trend" by sporting facial hair....but us
40 something yr old women that started shaving back in the 70's are? Bit hypocritical IMO. Hell I first shaved when I was 17...and didn't even know other women were.....I did it cuz my hair kept wrapping around his dik and pulling....and it friggin hurt!

I don't need to feel justified about my thoughts to sleep better at night. I am quite comfortable with my ability to please myself .....and my man in all aspects of a relationship. I don't need to label actions that come from the heart.
 OneMoreTimeWithFeeling
Joined: 9/8/2008
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Posted: 11/9/2008 3:06:17 PM
This whole discussion is hilarious. To each his/her own. It reminds me of this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

I bet he doesn't care if the bush is big or not.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/9/2008 8:01:09 PM
Big Daddy.....I'm not trying to sway you to my side...
what I'm trying to point out to you is just because a woman is shaved one day...she may not be next week....and if we meet a man that prefers it bushy....it it no way means we are selling out by allowing it to grow back in. Some of us (men & women) really do have many sides to us....and some of us like to do things to please their partner....
to me.....selling out would be not trying to please my partner. Sure there are limits...but there should definately be things that are acceptable to change without being considered a "Sell Out"....
I am not one of the women that shave because I believe there is less odor that way...and in no way was I referring to that when I threw in the hyothetical situation of a woman's doctor telling her she should shave to get less infections (BTW.....doctors have told women this)....
I was actually hoping u would redeem yourself and say if a woman u loved had these issues.....u would still love her and be understanding. I see now that is impossible for you. It's all about what u want....period.
Good luck with that.
 bigsexyteddybear
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Posted: 11/10/2008 3:51:41 AM

I am not one of the women that shave because I believe there is less odor that way...and in no way was I referring to that when I threw in the hyothetical situation of a woman's doctor telling her she should shave to get less infections (BTW.....doctors have told women this)....


ahhhh, either early on in this thread or another one on the same topic several ladies claimed that their OB/GYN told them to shave. Some heated discussion broke out over this and that a Dr. would tell them to shave it all off.

So I actually took it upon myself...LOL...to do some googling on the subject of public hair and doctor (GYN's) recommendations back on those posts. To my surprise there were a couple websites that have forums from GYN's that talked about this very thing.

Here is what was said in general. Any OB/GYN or any Dr. that tells a woman she 'needs' to shave, the woman should get another Dr. The Dr. went on to point out that pubic hair is and was put in place to serve a purpose, now as much as we don't really need it any longer for that reason it does no harm to leave it alone. He went on to tell this lady in her question, that the act of shaving actually increases the risk for infection, irritation, ingrown hairs and skin rashes. He stated this area of the skin is not tough enough to be shaved without irritation and ingrown hair is very common. He did not recommend shaving around the labium minora and majora as this area is very sensitive and cuts here can become infected very easily from normal external bacteria. He stated that if she wished trimming had no ill effect and would serve her better than shaving and was purely cosmetic. He also stated that naturally hairy women have no statistical increase in any types of infections as a result of leaving it natural. And that shaving causes more minor problems than not shaving. Regular bathing and check-ups where more beneficial than doing anything else. In addition to remembering what direction to wipe.

I am not trying to start an argument, I am only going over what I had looked up since one lady was very adamant she was told to shave it all off by her Dr.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 11/10/2008 5:38:56 AM
I didn't say hair causes infections.......
I said....hair can hold in moisture......and moisture can have a direct effect on infections.
I'd say it's one of those things that not only people have different views on.....
so do doctors.
The medical profession has many views on many things...not all doctors agree on everything.....so believe as you wish.
 grizzelda
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Posted: 11/10/2008 5:51:18 AM

How ignorant can people be?


As ignorant as needed to continually insist that women who dont shave are dirty, less sensual, and arent "multi faceted" as those that do.

Thanks Big Daddy!, Now when I was a little girl, getting pubic hair meant you were growing up, and something to be celebrated. Now, its something that is disgusting, something to be ashamed of, something to be "rid" of or you are dirty......Dont like the fact that I dont shave or wax my pubes, or that it "disgusts" you. You may want to ask yourself why a normal female body disgusts you? Trust me, those of us that dont shave, dont have hang ups or need some counselling, most are quite happy and secure in their sexuality that they dont need to continually alter their bodies to find their sexuality.



 bb5757
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Posted: 11/10/2008 6:03:04 AM
Hey Parry 10, check out my forum on "IM SEX". The guy that I am talking about has a fettish with women with hairy .....! I think that is soooo masculine of him to prefer that .
And I do agree with you, shaving is a fad...and reminiscent of being a child. I think it is not natural, and makes me wonder what a guy sees in it? do men like the resemblence of children? ...maybe so...with so much child pornography and pedifiles out there. YUK!!!
 Quazi 100
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Posted: 11/10/2008 10:32:56 AM

One was so bad, I wondered if a bird wasn't building a NEST in that sucker!!! I thought she was on her period until I realized it was part of a shoe-lace tangled up in there...


No way.....git outta here....

I'm too freakin' old to message you, DamoN.....sigh....

I actually prefer having hair...I get turned on when it's touched. I will trim, or shave a "landing strip"...I understand that the hair can be a turn off for some men.

So....clearing a path to the "operative" area is my usual solution.

Quaz...
 Quazi 100
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Posted: 11/10/2008 11:22:00 AM
Hey DamoN...

I'm good .....you seem gooder....that's great...hope you're still tuning in...I'm turning against myself!

Anyway....trimmer's should be used with caution in the crotch area....it grabs the right piece of skin and.....YEOW!
 newblue1970
Joined: 3/7/2008
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Posted: 11/10/2008 12:59:50 PM

shaving is a fad...and reminiscent of being a child. I think it is not natural, and makes me wonder what a guy sees in it? do men like the resemblence of children? ...maybe so...with so much child pornography and pedifiles out there

Oh come on.. I'm SOOOOO tired of hearing people that dont like shaving saying that men who do must like children. Is the rest of your vulva childlike? Are your hips childlike? Do you have breasts? I'm guessing yes so it seems that we like the rest of your womanly features. The reason why many men like shaved is simple - we are VERY visual. And you can see more if the woman is shaved. Its not rocket science.

And for all you on pedestals saying how you should be "natural" and why should you need to"modify your body" - here's something for you - check under your arms. Do you shave there? Shame on you for modifying your natural body. And are you wearing earrings? Why do you need to decorate your natural body?

Shaving pubes is a societal fad/trend. Will it become completely pervasive like shaving underarms (in this country)? Only time will tell. Some women do it for themselves, some do it for 'peer pressure', some do it for their lovers. To each her own. Personally, I love variety as both shaved and hairy have major plusses in my book.
 bigsexyteddybear
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Posted: 11/10/2008 5:44:34 PM
The reason why many men like shaved is simple - we are VERY visual. And you can see more if the woman is shaved.


Exactly what more can you see? Until it gets spread open your not seeing a whole lot but pubic bone...LOL I can pass on looking at a bare mounds pubis....

Hell, I get a lot more excited looking at bush and going treasure hunting than some shaved cootie giving me a wink looking like its been stripped of all its natural being.

Its like those people that own those hairless cats....I don't care how you put it, it just seems to odd. It is really just preference thats all, nothing to be ashamed of, I am not, I am more than happy to admit I like bush. Just like I like boobs, and we all have things we don't like etc.

I am more than happy if my date pulls down her pants and shows off a beaver pelt, its like an exploration into the bush (pun intended) to get to the center and the tunnel of love.... And yes Dorthy, real men eat hairy p*ssy. The ones that haven't figured out how to do it without getting hair in their mouths really need a new manual....LOL

No, seriously, for every woman that loves to run her fingers through a guys chest hair knows what I mean when I say, there are those of us men that love to play with a hairy bush...thats all...no harm done
 downdog13
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Posted: 11/16/2008 10:12:07 AM
Obviously it is your assumption that women who are older are doing this for some kind of trend or trying to be hip or younger....did it ever occur to you that some women do it because that is what they prefer and they are not trying to impress anyone....maybe that is just a guy thing....but most women do or wear things because they actually like it and are not constricted by what is expected of them.....so it is okay that you like it longer...personally that is not what I like...but that is ok...so don't come down on the women who like to visit Brazil (when you get waxed it is called a Brazillian...it lasts longer).
 whytwater
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Posted: 11/16/2008 7:04:02 PM

No one should be doing anything to their own bodies to please someone else....ever.


Balls!!! LOL! Just when I had her convinced to tattoo "Whytwater Witch" on her left cheek!
 downdog13
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Posted: 11/16/2008 7:36:19 PM
I was referring to Brazillians not Bikini waxes....I am well aware that when I go in for a Brazillian once a month that it all goes away.....
 want to travel
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Posted: 11/17/2008 10:59:39 AM
trimmed or natural for me!!!!
 bigsexyteddybear
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Posted: 11/19/2008 4:50:31 AM
I said...
So why don't you shave your head then? I mean I love smelling a woman's soft hair, love running my fingers through it, the smell of her shampoo the feel of it all over me...so why is so hard to think I can't feel the same way about her bush?


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I don't know about you buddy, but I don't happen to urinate out of the top of my scalp. Honestly, I don't care how YOU feel about a woman's 'bush'. Really, I don't.
All that matters to me, and all that should matter to anyone, is how THEY feel about it and do what makes THEM comfortable. No one should be doing anything to their own bodies to please someone else....ever.


If you think for one minute you don't or anyone else for that matter doesn't and that no one does anything to their own bodies to please someone else.... you are terribly mistaken, not only that you are full of crap. Oh wait...no... I am wrong, your the most selfish, self centered person on the face of the earth and yes you do it all for you. Your right you don't give a crap what anyone else thinks at all... and I doubt anyone here cares what you think. But I bet the next time your SO has hair growing out of his ears you wont hesitate for a minute to pluck them, or tell him his nose hair is sticking out and to trim it, and I bet you have no problem when a guy with sweaty nuts after working hard all day wants to plop them in your mouth, your not going to tell him to get in that shower first now are you??? Oh, no, we don't dare tell anyone else what to do with their own bodies. ppppfffttttt.... Oh and no you may not urinate out the top of your scalp, but apparently you manage to urinate all over your pubic mound, you need to work on your aim.
 bigsexyteddybear
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Posted: 11/19/2008 5:06:00 AM
And on an interesting side note, I was watching Art Mann the other night when he talked with a lady in her late 20's or early 30's from Australia who commented that the girls down under are done with this "silly American fad" of shaving off their pubic hair that those Americans seem to think is so necessary (as she pulls down her pants to show off a hairy blond bush)...LOL. She went on to say that she is glad the fad is over in Australia and she and her friends are happy to be back to being natural women again.

Don't flame me, I am only talking about what I saw on TV....LOL
 OneMoreTimeWithFeeling
Joined: 9/8/2008
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Posted: 11/29/2008 8:55:19 AM
^ I would rather a guy have some hair. If a guy has a nice c0ck, then that's all that matters to me. Pubes don't bother me. Not once have I gotten a hair stuck in my mouth. Hair doesn't actually grow on the penis. Well not a whole bunch anyway. At least with guys that I've been with. The place I don't like hair is the face. But that's a whole other post.

After breaking up with an ex, six months passed and we were intimate again. He had shaved off everything. I was like "wtf is that?" He was like "what you don't like it?" I said "ummm no thanks.". I still had sex with him though...but that was the last time. So everytime I hear people saying it's not a trend, I think of my ex.
 Ken 6000
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Posted: 1/11/2009 3:53:00 PM
I totally agree.Some women try to pooh pooh the subject as if it is unimportant.Others say it is a matter of cleanliness.(Ever heard of soap and douche?)As a man who truly appreciates and relishes the female body,I think by shaving, you are removing a sexual uniqueness that only has been given to you.Think about it.Some women have more hair,some women have less,some women have brown hair,some women have red or black or brown.Some hair is coarse ,some hair is soft.But it's all unique and good!It is what makes you,YOU.Then to shave it down to an angry stubble which incidentally,for some of us,gives us double razor burn to the face. This was the worst fashion idea of the last 30 years.
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