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 faith2565
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Many do not believe Bill is all the way on board. Hillary is on board, and probably would have been the VP if it were not for Bill. We will see. It does not matter!

Obama/Biden
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/24/2008 3:20:29 PM
Michigan ISN'T going republican, no matter whom McCain chooses for his VP.

Michigan is in an economic crisis from 30 years of supply-side economics.

The only way they take Michigan is to steal it. . .
 faith2565
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Posted: 8/24/2008 3:24:34 PM
Jack you know I love and respect you.

The Clintons have (to me) made this election more about them and their pride than the country. Even though I am dancing today because I love the Obama/Biden ticket. I still respect the republicans because they all support McCain. Oh no, there is one that does not and it is Ron Paul. Are you getting the picture?

Hard ball Ron Paul supporters will vote for the independent candidates or not vote at all.

Bill hurt his wife. That is truly my and many in the media's view.

He started the negative campaigning and he is still holding out.

When Obama's camp approached them about her being the VP pick it was made clear if she was not going to be seriously considered why turn in the paperwork.

You interpret that your way and I will interpret it my way. If she is not going to be the VP pick, why turn in the paperwork.

Have a blessed day!
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/24/2008 4:38:03 PM
SHE DOESN'T WANT THE JOB!!!

That's why she wasn't considered.

If you buy that she was the only one to win the election, you are buying the the gop is selling you.

I voted for Hillary. I do support her and think her Husband was a GREAT president. But she has as many haters as fans. Not her fault, but it is a fact. She would have been a great addition as P or VP. But a lot of her supporters are people who would have never voted for her in the general election anyway.

We just need a fair election. . . That's it. 1 vote cast, 1 vote counted. . .
 ManeRider
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Posted: 8/24/2008 6:43:04 PM

Biden is another stick in the eye for old time Women supporters of Hillary...

Exsqeeze me?
Biden wrote and pushed through Congress,( and still fights for women) through the VAWA. Who are you kidding. He's every womans best friend. And that one single issue is the one thing about Biden I have reservations about. Although his intentions were good in writing that bill, the courts allow it's misuse, but.... that's yet another thread entirely. But even being the mens/fathers rights advocate that I am, I still would vote Obama/Biden for the betterment of our middle class. Other parties are attempting to roll back the VAWA because of it's abuse of power it grants women in courts so we'll deal with that at some later time. I think Biden is a guy that gets down in the trenches and understands and empathizes with people of every income level, which is probably why he's been in Congress for 3 decades.



I voted for Hillary. I do support her and think her Husband was a GREAT president. But she has as many haters as fans.

Bill was a great president, although I've seen a side of him post primaries that I've been extrremely dissapointed with. I would have voted for Hillary had she won the nomination. But she hasn't. And the fact is, there are many among her followers who her are haters, who have specific agendas (most likely womens rights advocates) who are scorned beyond repair, at this point, forever stricken with hatred and vengence. Personally, I'm glad they've come to surface because they need special guidance and they need to understand their entitlement is not as universal as they would like to think it is. Gawd, love em, cause no one else does. I doubt they'll be nearly as disruptive to this convention or election as some wish to imply here.
 faith2565
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Posted: 8/24/2008 7:29:01 PM
Clinton will be releasing her delegates. It is over. We need to move on!

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Clinton to release her delegates to Obama

Sen. Hillary Clinton to meet her delegates on Wednesday, spokesman says
Meeting to happen before vote to seal nomination
Democratic Party restores full voting rights to Florida, Michigan delegates
Florida, Michigan had faced sanctions for holding primaries in January

DENVER, Colorado (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will release her delegates to Sen. Barack Obama, a Clinton spokesman said Sunday, the eve of the Democratic National Convention.


Sen. Hillary Clinton will meet with her delegates on Wednesday before that night's roll call, a spokesman says.
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Also Sunday, the Democratic Party decided delegates from Michigan and Florida -- states that had been penalized for moving their 2008 presidential primaries to January -- will get full voting rights at the event.

The moves answer some questions that lingered ahead of the convention, which starts Monday in Denver.

Clinton, who suspended her presidential campaign in June after Obama secured enough delegates to win the party's nomination, will meet with her delegates at a reception in Denver on Wednesday afternoon -- before that evening's delegate vote on the nominee, spokesman Philippe Reines said.

"[The reception is] an opportunity for Sen. Clinton to see her delegates -- many for the first time since the primaries ended -- thank them for their hard work and support and most importantly, to encourage them to support and work for Sen. Obama as strongly as she has, in order to elect him in November," Reines said.

Because Clinton suspended her campaign instead of dropping out, she kept the pledged delegates she earned in the primaries and caucuses. Earlier this month, Obama's campaign said it agreed to put Clinton's name in nomination at the convention "in recognition of the historic race she ran and the fact that she was the first woman to compete in all of our nation's primary contests." Watch a preview of the convention

Clinton already has urged the 18 million people who voted for her in the primaries to get behind Obama.


The party initially stripped Florida and Michigan of their delegates for holding presidential primaries earlier than the party had wanted. However, in late May, the DNC's rules and bylaws committee voted to reinstate the delegates but give them each a half-vote.

Sunday's decision gives the delegates a full vote at the convention.

Ending the sanctions had been a goal of Clinton, who won Florida and Michigan in her unsuccessful bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. Obama endorsed lifting the sanctions after Clinton's withdrawal from the race.

Between Monday's convention opening and Thursday night's acceptance speech by Obama at Denver's Invesco Field, delegates are expected to ratify his nomination and that of his vice presidential pick, Sen. Joseph Biden, another former primary rival.

Obama faces Republican Sen. John McCain in November in the contest for the presidency. McCain's campaign has poked at the old Obama-Clinton splits with a campaign ad claiming Clinton was passed over for the No. 2 spot because she was too honest about Obama's perceived weaknesses.

"The truth hurt, and Obama didn't like it," McCain's ad says.

But Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois, an Obama supporter, told CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday: "This campaign is not about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton."

"His campaign is about George Bush and four more years of George Bush under John McCain," Jackson said. "That message is going to echo clearly from this platform."

Campaigning in Wisconsin on his way to Denver, Obama hammered at McCain on the economy and on McCain's perceived strong suit, national security.

Obama told supporters at a barbecue in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, "The Republican track record on national security has not been particularly good."

"My job in this campaign is to explain that talking tough and acting dumb is not a way to keep you safe and secure," he said. "We need somebody who talks tough, who's going to act smart and be tough that's how we're going to look after the safety of the American people."



But Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, viewed as a potential McCain running mate, said Obama's decision to pick Biden -- the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- was an acknowledgment that Obama lacked to national security chops to be president.

"I don't think he's ready to be president. And when you're commander-in-chief, you shouldn't be having to select a mentor to help ...---------------------------
Move on people move on
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 3:12:32 AM
Exactly!!!

Clinton and Obama are BOTH moderate Democrats. . . Their vision of the country is very close. . . She has EVERY right to still be hurt over such a close loss, but, in the end, she will throw her support behind Obama because this country deserves better than a continuation of current policy!D

She has worked to hard to stop this pattern of bloodlust and greed. . . She will work ahrd as one of the leaders of the Senate, which is critical, especially with Lieberman and the lack of 60 Democratic Senators. . . Every vote in the Senate will be critical.
 fridayboo
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Posted: 8/25/2008 9:01:11 AM
What Hillary supporters don't realize is that if they are the reason this election tilts towards McCain...Are you really that ignorant to think that Obama supporters will forget and vote for her when she tries to run again? I'm glad certain members of the democratic party are being exposed.....Cady Stantons...come out where ever you are
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 12:24:08 PM
Yawn. . . .

T ~ Mac was on morning Joe this morning, he seems pretty confident in Obama and Hillary's political relationship.

Hillary's supporters will vote for Obama, because McCain is more of the same, and Democrats aren't going to vote for more of Dubya's policies. No one but McCain, apparently, will own a home in four years if things continue the way they are.

Dems will be firmly in support of Obama. . .

Obama/Biden 08!
 TimPommell
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Posted: 8/25/2008 12:27:16 PM

Someone remind me .....why are you guys voting for Mr. O. again?
Oh Oh Oh I know, pick me! pick me!

Because he had the sense of humor required to take a jab from Hillary and turn it into a positive, he let his supporters know that when the phone rang at 3:00 AM it was THEM taking the call...

You have to give it to him, it was a counter jab to the eye, and after Bill Clinton’s interview two weeks ago when asked if Obama was qualified to be President, instead of saying “yes” as he should have to support his party, he simply said “You could argue that nobody is ever ready to be President” after claiming in the primary that Hillary was “uniquely qualified” for the job and that Obama was not, which left the door open for all to take shots at Obama…
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
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Posted: 8/25/2008 1:29:02 PM

Hillary's supporters will vote for Obama, because McCain is more of the same, and Democrats aren't going to vote for more of Dubya's policies. No one but McCain, apparently, will own a home in four years if things continue the way they are.


As you keep saying, but saying so doesn't make it true. A Sunday CNN poll says that 27 percent of Hillary's supporters plan on voting for McCain (not merely abstaining from voting) compared to 18 percent in June.

Being a Hillary supporter does not mean you will blindly follow what ever Hillary Clinton says. Most of us are smart enough to realize that she really has no choice but to support Obama if she intends to remain a Democrat. We are also smart enough to know when to part ways and vote for the candidate who is best qualified for the job.
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 8/25/2008 1:34:24 PM
I still don't get it:

Obama, Clinton and Edwards all had platforms that nobody here could be able to tell one from the other if the names were blanked out. So all the things you and Hillary believe in are what Obama is running on.

Clinton's biggest accomplishment was marrying well. I don't see how that qualifies her for the Presidency.

Obama just plain beat her, coming from way back to do it.
 flyonthewall!
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:04:52 PM
^ ^ ^ If that's you're opinion, then Barack Oama has even fewer qualifcations. He didn't even marry well.

You know, I happen to agree with my garbageman's politics. And in fact, unlike the Democratic platform, which is too liberal for my taste, my garbageman has a much more centrist view.

So by your thought process above, I really shouldn't vote for Obama OR McCain, but should just write in the name of my garbageman.

Because after all, the ABILITY of someone to lead the country means nothing, it's only whether or not you agree on the platform.

So let's all vote "Joe" for President. (Sorry, I don't know his last name).
 oddandy
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:09:05 PM
^^^I'm in! He's probably better than the 2 losers we "get to choose."

Joe 2008
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:11:41 PM
Actually, voting for a third party, if you don't like one of the other two, it a good choice as well. If one of them gets 5% of the vote, they qualify for matching fund the next go around.
 flyonthewall!
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:26:14 PM
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Yeah, but she has more cojones than Obama. Bill even said so, and I'm inclined to agree. Ya know, that just made me thirsty. It's coc-ktail time. Anyone up for a good cab?

v v v v Works for me. Maybe Hillary should be McCain's VP. He'd get ALL of the Hillary supporters then, instead of just 28 percent!

BTW, being barefoot is fine with me, I'm not much into shoes. Plus I can get my male slave to carry me where I need to go! I'm going to buy him a rickshaw.
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:26:46 PM
Does the republican VP spot ensue in the kitchen? Isn't that where they want you? Of course you'll save money on shoes, being barefoot and all.

Maybe they should choose Hillary? They have suddenlly fallen in love with her. . .

 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 8/25/2008 2:51:57 PM

then you go on, she believes what he does, but SHE married well !
her accomplishments, you know being a lawyer, in the forefront of health care reform, a senator and getting just a few votes are moot points because, it's all Bill's doing

what a condenscending post-


First, I can tell the candidates apart. One ran a smart, disciplined campaign. The other never got control of competing factions. One was able to communicate the message in an inspiring way; the other couldn't.

Yes, Hillary Clinton is smart and was a good lawyer. But she's a Senator and a national figure because of the Clinton name. Obama became a Senator and a national figure in spite of the Obama name. Further she was put in the forefront of health care reform by her husband and botched it badly. She has failed in the campaign, and when she was given responsibility for health care.

Personally I think if the first woman President won the job because she rode on the coat tails of her husband, it would be a terrible thing for women's rights. President Boxer would be great. President Clinton (II) wouldn't.
 MacKevinized
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Posted: 8/25/2008 3:28:21 PM

Obama's failure to nominate a woman is such a glaring misstep that McCain should pounce and take advantage of it.


Obama's success at picking a man that has passed strong legislation that benifits women is a much better choice than choosing a woman that has done very little for women.

Just because there's ornry women that support a candidate simply because she's a woman doesn't mean there are lots of other women that are not ornery.

There's not even a lot of ornery women out there. It's just that they bit@$ longer and louder than anyone, making it appear as though they're bigger than they really are.

Where are they now? I haven't seen anything that would indicate they have anymore power than a flea on an elephant.

In a room of 200 democrats a question was asked about who they wanted for VP. 1 woman raised her hand and started bit@hing about how the women weren't being heard and just about every other woman in the room started laughing and raised their hand for Biden.

Even here, there's only a handful of women that insist a woman should have been picked and they are McCain supporters.
 eeeo4U
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Posted: 8/25/2008 3:32:44 PM
President Boxer? The former employer of that sleazeball scumbag child porn user Bernie Ward? Now that would be crazy...
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 4:07:51 PM
Her work on Healthcare reform is why she EARNED my vote in the primary. . .
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/25/2008 4:13:48 PM
No,, not really
 designingwoman
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Posted: 8/25/2008 8:37:34 PM
Well, this is what I can say about Hillary and her efforts to improve our health care system: At least she tried. She had an uphill battle against the lobbyist trash protecting the greedy self interest of private health insurance companies.

With that said, I am pleased with Sen. Obama's choice of Joe Biden for his running mate.

GO OBAMA!!
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