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 PurpleCrayon~
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 13
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I'm still not certain that we can truly say that Hillary Clinton is fully out of the picture yet as a candidate as the Super Delegates are still not fully out of the picture with their voice despite how the popular Democrat delegates may have to line up based on primaries earlier.


I don't think Hillary is out of the picture for a shot at the Democrat Nomination. Obama's camp is losing ground on getting funding. He's losing his base by pandering to Center and Right of Center. He... Obama himself... keeps playing the 'Race' card. It simply is turning off a huge portion of Middle America.

If it keeps going this close in the polling with McCain and if Obama continues his slide, the Dem. Delegates at the Convention can and for real.. might... officially elect Hillary Clinton as their Candidate.
 Montreal_Guy
Joined: 3/8/2004
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Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/24/2008 1:41:53 PM
Hmmm..... Obama's the first mixed race candidate for President of a major party, and he's been accused of being almost everything possible except being on the Grassy Knoll on November 22nd, 1963.

(By the way, where WAS he that day ? )

So with all the chatter, it's normal that some people are going to be wary of things. As I was saying in another thread, all the "crying wolf" stories are actually seemingly helping him - as people "burn out" from them. That's a really strange thing to see, in the same country where falling off a stage ( Dole) , or putting on a helmet (Dukakis) can cost you an election.

I think this is going to really make a major change after both conventions are over, and especially when the two men debate together. That's really going to show what's really involved here, the contrast, and I do believe it will wind up decided in Obama's favor in the end.

I see it as literally the old vs the new, a crossroads moment in American political history.
 o4
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 15
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Posted: 7/24/2008 2:16:53 PM

I see it as literally the old vs the new, a crossroads moment in American political history.

MontrealGuy: I always read your posts, don't always agree with you. But boy do I think you hit it on the head with that! - It's going to be a night to remember as its apparently set up to play out.

Sidenote: Hard as it was to watch Bob lose, he lost for a lot more reason than just the falling off of the stage. Bob Dole just didn't relate to his audience. I like Bob. I like Mrs. Dole too. But, he really got hung up...... Hmmmm........I wonder if Elizabeth could be talked into the VP slot on the ticket?
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 16
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Posted: 7/24/2008 2:17:04 PM
I also read that in Germany, 77% of Germans polled would like to see Obama in office vs. 11% for McCain, so I guess that makes him.........drum roll...........another "new Hitler"!


No, it doesn't make him Hitler, but it does make him the perfect leader . . . for Germany!

o4: I agree with you on Dole. He plays a lot better, and is a lot more charming in small groups. He has a wicked sense of humor that doesn't play well in front of a big crowd. I was a chief of staff on the Senate side in the 80s and of course knew him.
 PurpleCrayon~
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 17
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Posted: 7/24/2008 2:21:07 PM

No, it doesn't make him Hitler, but it does make him the perfect leader . . . for Germany!
Sooooo true!

And... the News also said that the Germans tend to actually cast votes against what the polls state prior to elections. Like in the USA. Think they must have the same Poll firms we do.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 7/24/2008 3:19:04 PM
I hate to break the news Dixie, but even if Ron Paul gets elected your taxes are going up.

The monetary markets just aren't going to let you continue to run deficits - the US $ will tank; foreigners will be unwilling to buy US debt (or stocks for that matter); inflation will skyrocket and interest rates will rise in lockstep; businesses and consumers will pull back when borrowing becomes more expensive. Artificially low taxes will kill the US economy - high inflation, high unemployment and high interest rates.

You complain of those who want a free ride, yet are unwilling to shoulder the weight yourself.
 PurpleCrayon~
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 19
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Posted: 7/24/2008 3:29:51 PM
Middle America will come to the rescue and show the clustered Democratic East and West Coasts that they are sitting on the fringes of a Nation bonded together with Conservative values and a pride in this Nation. Middle America is going to show it's collective Voice in spite of the constant spin by the Liberal media.

No way will they allow Obama with his Wright ideology and gangster Chicago ties become the leader of this Nation. Why would they? Plus, look at the 'Nanny State' of Illinois. Chicago voted the most 'Nanny city' in the Nation. This is not what Middle America wants and the fear of Obamaics making America like Chicago will be enough fear to make Middle America take to the voting booths and cast their vote for McCain.

Like I've said, this Forum at this site is a teeny tiny representation. It's logical for the majority here to be Liberals. It's based in Canada and if one had been here awhile back.. the Conservative Poster was far and very few inbetween. The numbers are still where the Liberals outnumber the Conservatives... which is fine. It's one reason I come here to post. I like a challenge.

Go to other Forums and it will be a real eye opener. Middle America (Conservatives) are making their voice heard loud and clear. And, via talk radio.

McCain '08
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 7/24/2008 4:29:59 PM

I also have this thought that if he gets elected, he is going to open the doors to any and all Africans and bring them here and give them a free ride

This thought comes from a fearful and ignorant place.

Go to other Forums and it will be a real eye opener.

No doubt. Probably a real brain dissappointer, too.
 PocoLoco44
Joined: 9/21/2007
Msg: 21
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Posted: 7/24/2008 4:30:56 PM

No way will they allow Obama with his Wright ideology and gangster Chicago ties become the leader of this Nation. Why would they? Plus, look at the 'Nanny State' of Illinois. Chicago voted the most 'Nanny city' in the Nation. This is not what Middle America wants and the fear of Obamaics making America like Chicago will be enough fear to make Middle America take to the voting booths and cast their vote for McCain.

In the arena where people feel safe to voice their true opinions without being accussed of being racist or sell outs...many are saying they are not voting Bami...He scares them with his radical background, many site this "Show me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are" With his Race hating friends and Terrorist connections people question who is this guy really? 143 days in the Senate and now he's running for president? He defended his friends and said he wouldn't ever turn his back on them....then when it became obvious that his friends of 20 plus years are Radicals and terrorist to the people, he shifted his opinions and threw them under the bus!
He can't even admit that the "Surge" worked he has to come up with factors that followed the Surge because of the Surge...These tribes and Shi Ites/Sunnies didn't decide to work together until they saw the success of the surge by purging AlQaeda from the areas, then the war lords and civil unrest became involved! Iragi people didn't amass them selves by them selves the troops aided them in this thus the Government could begin meeting and start working on issues! Bami is a joke and the more he speaks the more people are seeing he is full of crap and just doesn't get it?

Even his own press secretaries...Katie Brian and Charlie keep asking him the same question hoping to get a straight answer...he is unwilling to admit that the Surge worked, yet he now says we need a surge in Afghan??? Huh??? This is why so many are turning away from him even those who were impressed early on are saying he's nothing more then a Political Rev Wright! Rev,Wright called it right when he said he's just saying what he needs to say he's a politician trying to get elected...
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 22
Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/24/2008 5:20:59 PM
I am a little relieved that many are beginning to see what I saw the first moment I heard Obama open his mouth. Obama is a globalist, even more so than John McCain. Obama wants to take our earned income, raise our taxes to the max, and funnel all the money to other nations through the Global Poverty Act, when we can't even pay our debt here in this country! I mean this guy sees us giving hand outs to a world when we can't even pay our own bills. This is because Obama does not give a damn about the sovereignty of the USA.

Obama's vision is a global community, a one world government where he perceives peace will reign, and he will lead us to this with ease. Riiiiiiiiiiight. There will be no peace. Perhaps initially, but that peace will not last. Kiss the United States of America goodbye under Obama. Seriously wave goodbye to it as you prepare to become part of a global community where there are no more borders, where martial law reigns under a one world militaristic police force, where you have no more freedom to worship as you please, where a one world religion is created, perhaps by Obama himself.

You won't be able to buy or sell unless you cooperate with the cash less society he creates, after he's done doing away with the dollar and we're all using the one world government's newly created monetary system.

This is like reading a bad novel, it's so surreal. And it's happening right in front of our very eyes. I pray to God above that the people of the United States of America wake up and cast a vote for McCain so that we don't have an Obama presidency. Our country simply can't recover from four years of Obama. And you're talking uneasy? Uneasy is the classic understatement we all ought to be feeling. We ought to be outright terrified!

 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 23
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Posted: 7/24/2008 5:44:27 PM

This is like reading a bad novel, it's so surreal.

Well, you are the one outlining it. Unless you are talking about the Book of Revelation-- "The prophecy will be fulfilled!"
 PocoLoco44
Joined: 9/21/2007
Msg: 24
Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/24/2008 6:10:04 PM

Actually in this year when all things are going against any Republican candidate for President, Obama should be at least 10 points ahead in the polls. He has served less than 150 days in the Senate, has no "credentials" on National Security, and has no "executive" experience whatsoever. And there was "nothing"substantive in his speech in Berlin today


Mr.Historian,
You sir are absolutely correct...as bad as the left proclaims the Bush Administration has been and pontificates that McCain is Bush III you would think it would be an absolute landslide...But that's just not the case! They are very close in the polls but to listen to the left here, Conservatives have ruin the country and people want change? How simplistic in thought...it is the same as it is every election...running close!! Nothing new or great about this guy other then their desire to make history! at any cost! To win the White house no matter the risk of who's behind the desk...Obami and Michelle have made their living and their rise off of the constant put downs about this country..and now want us to believe they suddenly love this country????

They Obami/Michelle Bill Ayers Rev Wright Rev Phleger Rezco and his Radical Islam family in Kenya, have enjoyed a very special close relationship for many years! Which if they weren't trying to blow up this country they were putting it down over an over again! the famous oh No! No! Not God Bless America God Damm America, The US of KKK A which makes my back bone slide with contempt of such hatred spewed by one who calls him self a man Of God..much less an American who loves this country!

This is the man who wants to be president and who the Democrats have shoved in the face of the American people and said he deserves to be President...NO HE DOESNT!!!
He has disrespected this country and our Flag countless times he deserves nothing!
 Montreal_Guy
Joined: 3/8/2004
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Posted: 7/24/2008 8:28:24 PM

He has served less than 150 days in the Senate, has no "credentials" on National Security, and has no "executive" experience whatsoever.


Well, let's review and research.

He was a community organizer in the south side of Chicago, from June 1985 to May 1988.

He is both a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School. At Harvard, he was selected in his first year as an editor of the Harvard Law Review. In his second year, he was elected President of it.

He graduated from Harvard as a J.D. magna cum laude .


The magna cum laude will be awarded to the top 10 percent of the class, excluding the summa.

(http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/registrar/2006-07/honors2006htm.htm


He was elected and served from 1997 to 2004 as an Illinois senator.


n January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[33] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[34] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the US Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


He was a civil rights attorney.


In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993. He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[10] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999. He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.
(Particularly appropriate, since the President's job is to uphold the Constitution, as per his oath of office.)


as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama


He was elected to the US Senate in November 2004 . (150 days ????)

I look at all those accomplishments, and fail to see how Obama can be dismissed with a wave of a hand so easily. The same Americans who seem to chant "throw the bums out" , now seem to switch to let's keep them in - in Obama's case.

The only requirements set forth in the Constitution for qualification of a man to be President are the following :


Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.


Obama meets all of the requirements quite easily. Your Founding Fathers saw no need to include any other ones, like "credentials" on National security, nor "executive experience", when they defined what was needed to be President.

Compared to the man now holding that position, Obama stands out as having a far better record, especially in regards to Constitutional law, again recalling the main task of of that oath of office.

So any unease over the man is simply one based on fear and misunderstanding.
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 26
Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/24/2008 8:34:36 PM
MG, you're a doll, to coin a phrase from Apologist D.A., but the unease over Obama is not based on fear and misunderstanding. It's based on Obama's global community/one world agenda and the fact that he wants to spend us into the poor house through his Global Poverty Act. We'll be the ones in poverty after we finish paying for it.

And we don't care for his choice of friends, in a nutshell. No fear or misunderstanding there, just the facts.
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 7/24/2008 8:40:15 PM

It's based on Obama's global community/one world agenda and the fact that he wants to spend us into the poor house through his Global Poverty Act. We'll be the ones in poverty after we finish paying for it.

And we don't care for his choice of friends, in a nutshell. No fear or misunderstanding there, just the facts.


As opposed to the man spending you into the poorhouse now, the same one who INITIATED the base (and lead the fight for) that Global Poverty Act ?

As discussed over and over again, the GPA isn't "Obama's" act, it's Bush's. It's exactly what he negotiated with other countries, and "Obama's" bill is simply following his mandate.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts9934333.aspx

Again, fear and misinformation.
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 28
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Posted: 7/24/2008 8:50:22 PM

As opposed to the man spending you into the poorhouse now, the same one who INITIATED the base (and lead the fight for) that Global Poverty Act ?

As discussed over and over again, the GPA isn't "Obama's" act, it's Bush's. It's exactly what he negotiated with other countries, and "Obama's" bill is simply following his mandate.


Oh no. Not that. You're telling me that Obama is following a Bush mandate?!!

I thought only McCain had the-follow-Bush-disorder. lol. But it would seem that Obama has the same problem, hmm? Seems Bush isn't as stupid as everyone makes him out to be if both men desire to continue his mandates and plans -- However in terms of this one, we just can't afford it, MG, and you know it.

 ManeRider
Joined: 5/22/2005
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Posted: 7/24/2008 9:02:52 PM
Talk about Grasping At Straws.



As opposed to the man spending you into the poorhouse now, the same one who INITIATED the base (and lead the fight for) that Global Poverty Act ?



Seems Bush isn't as stupid as everyone makes him out to be if both men desire to continue his mandates and plans -- However in terms of this one, we just can't afford it, MG, and you know it.

Actually you're right, Bush is hands down, much more stupid than I ever thought a person could be.
And you're right. 2 trillion dollars for the war is crippling our economy.
And Mccains backed-by-Bush stance, that 100 years in Iraq blooper he made, pretty much sums it up. We CAN'T afford it, and you know it.
The GPA isn't worth a damn if we're sending our monies overseas to the tune of 10 billion a month.

Someone...... ANYONE......... is it 2008 yet?
 southernlass
Joined: 5/2/2006
Msg: 30
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Posted: 7/24/2008 9:30:54 PM
Obama has every intention of redeploying all of our troops from Iraq to Afghanistan. We'll not save a dollar. Obama will continue all of the Bush mandates and initiatives in Iraq and Afghanistan. He will not bring the troops home. He flip flops around every which way on this only to return to sounding exactly like Bush and doing the same things that Bush would do.

We cannot afford the Global Poverty Act. We need to do something about the deficit. You won't have any social security/medicare/ or any other social program when our economy is in a state of collapse. Oh, but let's do it Barry's way, huh? Spend us into the poor house paying for the world while we ignore the hungry and homeless in our own country and the ever more overwhelming, growing deficit. What a brilliant plan!
Not.
 exodusi1
Joined: 8/19/2006
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Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/24/2008 9:36:42 PM
First of all, Obama is a well educated individual. He was the ONE with the foresight to speak out AGAINST invading the WRONG country in the first place. Second, now that the idiot in chief has MESSED things up so badly in the Middle East and Persia, we CAN'T just pull everyone out. That he is demostrating CAUTION, is a GOOD thing, not STATUS QUO.

So, yes, he is moving around a bit as he analyzes the situation better. If you clearly cared about anything but the RHETORIC, you would see that this is a PHENOMINAL change from what has gotten us into the mess.

It feels GREAT to have a candidate I can truly believe in. . . I wish I could describe the feeling, but I can't. There is no common frame of reference. The last great Republican President was in office before I was born. So, if you can remember Ike, you can explain how it feel for me!
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 7/24/2008 10:50:49 PM
Some critics of Obama sound like this: "I don't care if he is intelligent, well-educated, well-spoken, well-travelled, charismatic, inspires masses of listeners both foreign and domestic and builds an effective campaign staff... I want a person who can be the president of the United States, not an empty suit!"
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 7/24/2008 11:12:03 PM


Obama: Favorable/Unfavorable
RCP Average Fav/Unfav +22.7

Rasmussen Fav/Unfav +11.0
CBS News/NY Times Fav/Unfav +8.0
Quinnipiac Fav/Unfav +26.0
Newsweek Fav/Unfav +24.0
CNN Fav/Unfav +31.0
FOX News Fav/Unfav +26.0
USA Today/Gallup Fav/Unfav +33.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/
obama_favorableunfavorable-643.html

McCain: Favorable/Unfavorable
RCP Average Fav/Unfav +18.6

Rasmussen Fav/Unfav +17.0
CBS News/NY Times Fav/Unfav -1.0
Quinnipiac Fav/Unfav +19.0
Newsweek Fav/Unfav +23.0
CNN Fav/Unfav +22.0
FOX News Fav/Unfav +26.0
USA Today/Gallup Fav/Unfav +24.0

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/
mccain_favorableunfavorable-642.html


Based on those spreads, on multiple independent polls, I think we can safely say the "voter unease" factor may be one thing that McCain leads in, actually.

His campaign is in tatters, his major platform stances are fading against the cold light of reality (economy, Iraq) , and he's got rid of his advisers. That's all going to play against him quite strongly, as the months progress.

Obama will be seen as the new, McCain the old, on multiple levels. McCain's tie in with Bush, with the "Bush doctrine" , will tie him into the last eight years - and make his campaign seem like a continuation of the current direction.

That's something that more and more Americans are realizing as a bad thing. Every headline, every news story that's a negative.....costs McCain votes.

McCain's a "snail mail" type of guy, in a Facebook age. The chances of him attracting any of the youth vote , in any substantial numbers, is slim to none.

McCain's website, the last time I checked, doesn't even feature ANY references that touch on the youth vote.

This flood of new voters, young voters, doesn't seem to have the same fear of Obama as other demographics might have. This may be a record year for their involvement, and that "surge" will quite possibly overpower any other single voting block.

The 18-29 demographic in 2004 was seventeen percent. That group was split (with a slight advantage to Bush), but McCain probably won't get anywhere near the same advantage against Obama.

Add to that the African-America vote, which McCain will lose to Obama, and it's a double whammy. That demographic may turn out in record numbers, historically record numbers, and add to tipping the scales. In 2004 , African-American votes accounted for eleven percent of Bush's total.

McCain, running against Obama, won't equal that.

McCain's anti-Roe vs Wade stance, a quite public one, may cost him serious losses with the female demographic.

In 2004, Bush's female vote was forty eight percent. I doubt McCain will equal that too.

His pro-war stance may also inflict more damage, in a nation tired of war, and set against the Iraqi people's desire for American force withdrawal.

And finally, as the economy worsens under a unpopular Republican president, that will make the America voter reflect quite strongly on the direction America is going. If it's hitting other people, it's not as important as when it hits YOU, your friends, and your family.

Twenty three percent of the 2004 voters made under $ 30,000, and that demographic is going to be quite heavily affected by rising costs of living and gas prices.

If they see themselves losing ground, they will not be likely to wish to continue the present course, and commit themselves to another four years of possibly continuing to suffer the same fate.

So, in the end, it seems that the final victor here may win due to demographic factors that all favor Obama.

Source for those demographics :

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_04.html

Those factors will all combine together, and overcome any "fear factor" that one may argue is impacting on Obama's potential for election.
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 34
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Posted: 7/25/2008 5:52:59 AM
Couldn't even find where you came up with the unfavorables from McCain on RCP, but the one trend that counts is McCain closing the gap, as you can see from the graph at:

vhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

BTW, the link you gave above came up as 403 Forbidden.
 jcrew617
Joined: 6/19/2007
Msg: 35
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Posted: 7/28/2008 6:41:11 PM
I think Nanny State and Nanny city is code word for poor black people.

I don't know too many Americans who live off the system or the ones that are happy about it. I don't think anyone can really live on food stamps. I think that is why gangs and drug dealing is appealing because low barriers to market entry and no red tape. It beats getting a SBL from the bank.
 jcrew617
Joined: 6/19/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 7/29/2008 6:27:23 PM
If you live on a farm, the you can free yourself of all govt interaction.

But there are so basic things that the govt is invovled in our daily lives unfortunately. We have public schools, transportation, roads, fda, social security, disability, employee benefits, etc that are affected by govt control and regulations. A lot of small businesses won't provide health care to their employees, now is that really fair? If state or local govts can create a plan for the uninsured to get coverage, isn't that better than no coverage at all?

I don't know about the numbers and budget for welfare and other social needs programs. I imagine that if these programs didn't exist something like the storming of the bastille would happen.
 PurpleCrayon~
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 37
Voter Unease With Obama Lingers Despite His Lead
Posted: 7/29/2008 7:41:44 PM
A 'nanny' state is just a common term used for a state or nation which is seeped in government support of a lot...lot... of social programs. Making the people more and more dependent on the government for it's basic needs. At least that's the way I've seen it used mostly in context.

As to Voter unease with Obama... it appears the polls are reflecting this. He and McCain are neck n neck in a race which most - meaning.. the media - were reporting that Obama would take a double digit lead soon and maintain it. This hasn't happened. Plus, it's very very difficult to get a handle on what true Middle America will do since, for the most part, they don't frequent internet forums/blogs, etc. Yet, they turn out en mass for actual voting during elections.
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