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 linmar207
Joined: 7/22/2007
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I have mixed thoughts on which to draw a conclusion...here in Maine we had a discovery a couple of years ago of some kind of canine, wolf strange looking creature. Some authority was called to come to inspect it but didn't think it was important enough. The person who discovered this animal, by what I understand, accidently killed it with their car. Photos were taken and were publicized in the local papers. It even made it on to a television documentary concerning such creatures. I saw the photos and have to admit that this was a unique looking creature. Also to support this thought, I live on land that is covered by trees and thick brush...I'm always in awe to see a deer, coyote, fox and other animals that don't often show them self to humans. Who is to say that some other creature isn't out there in the vast woods? Scientists are still discovering yet more life in our oceans; why then is it so difficult to believe that some large creature such as Big Foot does not exist in our forests?

My other thought is, since Big Foot is obviously BIG, why hasn't anyone found where it might live in the vicinity of where it's been spotted?
 MX220
Joined: 3/31/2007
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Posted: 8/17/2008 8:27:07 AM
If it's true....what an incredibally awesome discovery! It would be THE discovery of modern civilization.

If it's true, that is.

I've seen the well known footage that Roger Patterson filmed. I've seen it a few times on TV and I just saw it again on you tube. The first time I saw it I was immediately convinced it's a hoax. Observing the subject's gait one can clearly see it's a human being. Also there is only a few brief seconds of close up clear footage..another red flag.

I just saw the Snow Walker footage of a furry creature walking through deep know. Yet it's out of focus, very shaky and the very brief instant or two of a relatively clear shot It looks to me like a human being. Every one of these apparent photos or videos are always either out of focus, half or more hidden behind bushes, very shaky hands of the cameraman, at great distances etc....the list goes on.

Shouldn't this be the story of the year for news? Why did it take this long to gain any publicity?
 printer2
Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 8/17/2008 8:32:54 AM
Forget eating berries and wild animals. Bigfoot is real but we just cannot see him for what he is. The obvious answer is aliens taking a stole in the woods. They are not the cute hairless phone home types that do all the probing. These guys heard the myth about mammoths and every once in a while send out an expedition to see what they can find.

Edit: Sorry 'The obvious answer is aliens taking a stroll in the woods.' Where is my coffee?
 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Posted: 8/17/2008 6:55:59 PM
Mungo,

Come on now...you're too intelligent to be debating me over semantics.

Don't mistake me for someone who thinks Bigfoot is real, my postings show otherwise.

I am however, willing to recognize that science and discovery are predicated on the unknown and that those discoveries, however big or small, typically boil down to someone asking "I wonder if...".

Folk-lore and legend have far more than occasionally been the source of inquiry and discovery.

Oh yeah, and as far as the supposed folklore goes concerning Bigfoot....says who ? If you're referring to the Skoocum legend then you might want to take a closer look at it, because the creature described there bears little resemblance to the creature we're all so interested in.

The majority of Native traditions have stories about giant, wild, 'people-like' creatures. Sometimes it is "otter men", sometimes it is "stone men" and, more often, it is large, hairy, mysterious 'people' who live in the woods/wilderness. In some cases they are symbols of nature, in others they are symbols of evil, 'sin' or some other 'violation of nature'. In some of the legends they live every day within their wilderness environments and in others they only appear at times of trouble and trial. These legends can be found among natives in every region of North America from the south-east US to the True North.

Legends do not make science or factual knowledge but I also recognize the sources for folk-lore and myth. In some cases the myth preceeds apparent 'events' (e.g. sightings because the person was acculturated to see such things), it is a source of explanation for natural/historic events or a means of teaching knowledge and values to the young (like fairy tales). In other cases they evolve from actual events which bear explaining and are passed down, embellished and expanded.

In the second case, exploring legends and their origins can lead us to real, factual knowledge about the world around us. In the first it can lead us to real cultural knowledge about the people who formulated the myths (eg Troy was discovered by someone trying to establish the factual basis, if any, behind some of the most enduring myths about the Trojans).

As I said before:

science listens and considers even if clear proof isn't there but it doesn't accept without it.
 Politically INCORRECT
Joined: 8/14/2007
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Posted: 8/18/2008 8:09:26 AM

I am however, willing to recognize that science and discovery are predicated on the unknown and that those discoveries, however big or small, typically boil down to someone asking "I wonder if...".

....they're Gay?

 yna6
Joined: 1/21/2007
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Posted: 8/18/2008 8:15:26 AM
wouldn't be the first time a "discovery" has been claimed...but I'd be thinking twice about this one, seeing as the guy already has one hoax under his belt.
 linmar207
Joined: 7/22/2007
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Posted: 8/18/2008 9:16:42 AM
Very good point! But I'll go back to the finding here in Maine that have made us all wonder in this area...what kind of animal was that? Maybe there's not a lot of them but there was at least one and I've seen the publicized ph0tos from our local newspaper the Sun Journal if you'd like to check it out and draw your own conclusion.. I don't believe it was merely a dog with mange..the snout reminded me of a wolf pup but as for the rest of the body..no clue. This isn't to say that I believe Bigfoot, the Lockness Monster or aliens exist, but the Maine finding does put a wrench in the spoke of the nonbelievers somewhat I'd think.
 nd300
Joined: 2/25/2007
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Posted: 8/19/2008 6:54:22 AM
No evidence???????????Sir,there have been hundreds of hair samples,yoice recordings of sounds and calls made by something that when compared to recordings of all known animals who vocalize,came back as "unknown animal sounds not matching known species". Hair samples found,when compared to known apes, chimpanzees,and humans,came back "unknown species".
Footprints with very good dermal ridging have had plaster casts made for study.When compared to human and known species,they didn't match up.Again,no known matches came back.
Yes,there are and have been hoaxes played on the general public over the years.One of them was in fact played by one of the people involved in the latest Georgia "find".So people should be skeptical.The DNA results didn't help his cause either.Until we find a body,there will always be skeptics,and should be.
Personally,there has to be something going on out there.What it is I don't know.Yet when you have reported sightings from trained professional observers such as police officers,park rangers,and military observers,there has to be some grain of truth to it.
I'd love to see a(or several simultaneous) fully equipped expedition(s) to find definite proof in the form of a body,whether alive or dead.
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 8/19/2008 5:37:24 PM
Well, looks like one for the skeptics......


The Bigfoot in the freezer is made of rubber, a Web posting asserted Tuesday.

he initial promoter of two hikers' claim that they found the body of Bigfoot in Georgia said he has determined that the discovery was a hoax.

The body turned out to be rubber, and the two men who claimed that they found it, Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, have admitted that it was a costume, said a posting Tuesday on the Web sites of Searching for Bigfoot Inc. and Squatchdetective.

The posting purportedly was written by Steve Kulls, who maintains the Squatchdetective Web site and hosts a similarly named Internet radio program, where the find was announced weeks ago.

In addition, Stanford University anthropologist Richard Klein said Monday that he was not aware he had been identified as participating in the project and would not be involved in any effort to examine the purported Bigfoot carcass.

The hoax was discovered after an "expedited melting process," Kulls wrote. "A break appeared up near the feet area ... as the team and I began examining this area near the feet, I observed the foot which looked unnatural, reached in and confirmed it was a rubber foot."

Kulls said he contacted Tom Biscardi, the self-described "Real Bigfoot Hunter" who has been searching since 1971 for the creature of legend and appeared alongside Whitton and Dyer at the news conference.

"Later that day, Tom Biscardi informed us that both Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer admitted it was a costume," the posting said.

Whitton and Dyer reportedly agreed to sign a promissory note and an admission of the hoax and meet with Biscardi at their hotel on Sunday. But when Biscardi went to the hotel, the two had left, Kulls wrote.

"At this time, action is being instigated against the perpetrators," the posting said, adding that the motives behind the claims were unknown.

The posting said Biscardi's organization, Searching for Bigfoot Inc., "is seeking justice for themselves and for all the people who were deceived by this deception."

Kulls did not immediately return a call to the Squatchdetective contact number. A woman answering the phone at Searching for Bigfoot Inc. said Biscardi had been ill and said she was not sure when he would be returning calls.

A number listed as belonging to Matthew Whitton was disconnected as of Tuesday. Efforts to locate a phone number for Dyer on Tuesday were unsuccessful.

Dyer and Whitton failed to show up Monday for a scheduled appearance on CNN's "American Morning."

Kulls said that at the time he first interviewed Dyer on July 28 for the radio program, he suspected the duo's motive was financial. On August 12, he said, the two "requested an undisclosed sum of money as an advance, expected from the marketing and promotion."

Two days later, after signing a receipt and counting the money, Dyer and Whitton showed the Searching for Bigfoot team the freezer containing what they claimed was the body: "something appearing large, hairy and frozen in ice," Kulls wrote.

Dyer, he said, insisted on holding the news conference and told Biscardi he would not release the body unless the briefing was held Friday.

On Sunday, the research team was able to extract some hair and burn it. The hair sample "melted into a ball uncharacteristic of hair," Kulls wrote.

Biscardi then gave the group permission to expedite the melting process, and the rubber foot was discovered, Kulls wrote.

Meanwhile, Klein, the Stanford professor, said Monday that he was "sorry that my name and Stanford's name have been brought into this."

Klein's name was mentioned Friday as one of four scientists, two of them Russian, who would analyze the corpse. Klein said he was unaware that Biscardi had identified him.

He said he had been contacted by Biscardi in the past and responded to a request to examine bones that were identified as coming from a deer.

"He seems like a nice enough guy," Klein said, "but I can't imagine why anyone would devote their lives to proving the existence [of Bigfoot]. Anything has a remote chance of being true, but there is virtually no prospect of this animal being real."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/bigfoot.hoax/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


This has to be one of the lamest attempts at a hoax I've heard of.

I trust they all get charged with something for even trying it, especially given their backgrounds. I can't figure out how anyone could ever think they would not wind up in a worse position FOR having tried it, and rather quickly too.

On the other hand, I can kind of imagine two Bigfoot creatures somewhere in the deep woods of the Pacific Northwest giving each other a high five right about now.
 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Posted: 8/19/2008 6:06:54 PM

Definately. How stupid can they be?

Apparently a shade smarter than anyone who paid any money to them for appearances or merchandise.

And clearly mental giants in comparison to Tom "Fool me once..." Biscardi.
 Pyro74
Joined: 4/23/2006
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Posted: 8/19/2008 8:22:40 PM
The first time I saw pics of this "bigfoot", I knew it was fake. I don't think anybody was surprised by this revelation.

Notwithstanding the rest of your claims, this particular comment is a logical fallacy - "appeal to authority." Police officers, park rangers, and military observers are not likely to be experts in biology, anthropology, or taxonomy.

No, it's not. These people are professional observers. They observe their surroundings, that's their job. If one of these expert observers says they saw a large hairy creature walking upright, then that's probably exactly what they saw. Now you can bring in the other "experts" you mentioned, to figure out what type of creature it was.
 mthomjmark
Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 8/20/2008 2:08:40 AM
OP can you be serious? The second the photos were shown so many people laughed. My exact words were, "its a cross between James Belushi in the ape suit in Trading Places, or the Abominable Snowman in the Cartoon, rudolph the red nosed reindeer with a die job. This guy had done it once before and he does it for the publicity and for the ability to sell more of his bigfoot items in his bigfoot store.

There is so much media in the world, if a mouse farts it's a huge story. Anyone that bought this really needs to get real.
 mthomjmark
Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 8/20/2008 2:12:50 AM
Yes ND; no evidence; And there are lots of unknown things but that doesn't mean its true; wake me up when they come up with a body. Remember that FOR SURE photo of Nessie? Even that looked fake but people bought it because it was doctor who took it. We choose to believe what we want. Find me a big foot body and I'll believe.

The only one I dont get is the Chupacabra; they have 2 bodies, several videos and pictures, and dead animals. No one says a thing; That I believe; becuase there are bodies and I see it. Proof. Show me Nessie and a Bigfoot, and I'm on board.
 guyworthgettingtoknowinpa
Joined: 11/29/2004
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Posted: 8/20/2008 4:32:56 PM
So how did these guys think that they were going to pull off such a lame scam. They had to know that eventully someone would want to take a look at the body and not just a crappy photo of it?
 Del Monty !
Joined: 3/24/2007
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Posted: 8/20/2008 4:47:29 PM
Once had a hairy distant cousin that resembled a possum. We had to stop tellin folks though. Sigh...the possums got pissed !! LOL !!
 mister_mark
Joined: 8/16/2006
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Posted: 8/20/2008 4:56:46 PM
I honestly think that if Bigfoot was found, it would change the world in one or another aspect.

I mean look at how many people are all about finding it/him/her/w.e
If it realy was Bigfoot, then what are the people that are true believers going to do?

I think they will make up some theory about some conspiracy that the tests were being tamperd with or something wild like that. And all because they dont have anymore Bigffot, no tracking to do. So nothing better than starting up stuff like that.

And thats my two cents.
 JohnEDeep
Joined: 7/9/2007
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Posted: 8/20/2008 5:10:07 PM
Let me get this straight...


Tom Biscardi, the self-described "Real Bigfoot Hunter"

and a known Bigfoot hoaxer, was hoaxed himself? Now THAT'S a true believer!

The mind wobbles...

That would make the Georgia duo the new Kings of Pranks! Too bad they fessed up, imagine how much fun a 'second prankster' theory could be. Those shadowy shapes paralleling them in the forest....the true pranksters on the grassy knoll.

I wonder when Congress will hold televised hearings to investigate this foul crime.

Do you think Bigfoot hunters date much?
 maxxoccupancy
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Posted: 8/22/2008 12:06:45 AM
No one likes a skeptic, but no one wants to be ridiculed for promoting what seems a fringe idea. Of all of the strange ideas being promoted, the existence of sasquatch seems to be the most credible, since there have been thousands of reports of some creature in the woods with similar descriptions and tracks.

Despite the mountains of evidence supporting its existence, we all face those skeptics who love to use that ridicule. During the dark ages, the skeptics controlled society, preventing new ideas from being examined--new discoveries from being discussed. That Dark Ages mentality never goes away, and the media love to expose anything that will cast doubt on the process of discovery, to peddle fear and emotion. What gives me hope is hearing so many still saying, "IF bigfoot is out there."
 cooldude54
Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 8/22/2008 12:28:31 AM
I think it was the Boggy Creek Monster who hitch hiked to GA. probably looking for one of those cute Ga. Southern Sasquatch Babe's !
 marita_b
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Posted: 8/22/2008 3:59:09 AM
I have always thought that all of those people who say there is no proof,..show me a body,...in this light,....

I know that there are many horned animals running around in the wild that shed their antler's annually,....yet how many people do you know that find shed antlers littering the woods? I know I have never tripped over one nor have the dogs retrieved any for me,....

Just me thinking out loud again,....
 Del Monty !
Joined: 3/24/2007
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Posted: 8/25/2008 4:28:13 PM
Hmmm....."Sasquatch Fraud". Now I've truly heard it all !! LOL !!!
 cooldude54
Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 10/19/2008 9:43:16 AM
Hey it was the caveman dude rom the Geico Commercials!........or when I was in basic training we had a dude who had a lot of body hair and we called him magilla gorilla!
 Lone_Stranger
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Posted: 11/11/2008 11:37:40 PM
So I have'nt heard anything about that Bigfoot those two guys in Georgia have in the deepfreeze for over two months now.
I'm assuming that in itself probably means it was just another hoax.

Anybody know for sure..............MG ?
 Montreal_Guy
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Posted: 3/26/2009 7:23:41 AM
It did turn out to be one of the dumbest hoaxes I could imaging anyone pulling, especially for people with some law enforcement backgrounds. On the other hand, they can probably sell their story to Hollywood and make a killing.

One part of me still hopes that there's a group of Bigfoot out their somewhere....laughing.
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