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 faith2565
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Why argue with Philly, he is an angry Hillary supporter. He will be bringing up Rev. Wright again in the next few days.
 faith2565
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Posted: 9/15/2008 8:55:41 PM
Sarah is being used. It is all going to be revealed. Why can't McCain campaign alone?
 faith2565
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Posted: 9/15/2008 9:19:11 PM
The polls are tied now 45/45.

Have a blessed day!
 Boricua Papi
Joined: 10/8/2007
Msg: 163
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Posted: 9/16/2008 6:04:45 AM
McCain-Palin might avoid America becoming a socialist country. Obama wants to turn this country into a third world country by making alliances with Venezuela, N. Korea, Iran and Cuba. The Russians will be invading other countries and we will have another dangerous Cold War. McCain-Palin want to bring Reagan doctrine of "deterrent" back. Obama would let the Russians make their way and would avoid helping Israel.
Obama is danger to our way of life!
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 164
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Posted: 9/16/2008 6:52:14 AM
Obama has not declined, McCain has simply finally climbed a bit


From Obama's high of 49.2 on September 2 he has now fallen to 44.7, or 4.5 points.

From McCain's high of 48.3 on September 8 he has now fallen to 46.2, or 2.1 points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
 faith2565
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Significant lead in polls for McCain
Posted: 9/16/2008 8:37:10 AM
Latest Polls

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Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:58 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Palin
From NBC's Mark Murray
Reuters: "The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said. 'We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us,' the Palins' statement said. 'Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support,' the Palins said."

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For Obama’s Voters, It’s Change; for McCain’s, Experience
September 16, 2008
Despite John McCain’s recent efforts to adopt a “change” positioning, only 3% of his supporters volunteer that they are voting for the Republican nominee because of his ability to bring about change, compared to 37% of Obama supporters.
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Gallup Daily: Race Stabilizes With McCain Up by Two
September 15, 2008
Voter preferences in the race for president are unchanged from where they stood over the weekend. John McCain still edges out Barack Obama, 47% to 45%, according to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Sept. 12-14.

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 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 167
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Posted: 9/16/2008 12:36:33 PM
MG --

Absent some huge unforseen catastrophe, I don't see the economy coming to bite McCain in the ass before the election. It's only 7 weeks from today. The Fannie/Freddie debacle sure didn't do it.

The only thing I can see that will change McCain's trend are the debates. If he does horribly and people lose confidence in him, then the numbers could sway Obama's way again.

Given that Obama has much less certainty in his statements, and his inability to explain positions in clear terms for the majority of the electorate -- I don't see his discussion of the issues resonating with the majority of voters.

Over the past couple of weeks McCain has made inroads in places that I would never expect to see him gaining, like New York. Obama has gone from a 19 percent lead in early August to 5 percent this month. I doubt that New York will come into play for McCain, but those numbers show you how different things are now as compared to just a month ago.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 168
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Posted: 9/16/2008 12:40:21 PM
Um, the forseen catastrophe is here. Deregulation spearheaded by McCain's chief economic advisor is creating a meltdown in the financial market.

Pretty hard to see how that isn't going to bite him in the ass.
 thatswhatshesaid
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 170
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Posted: 9/16/2008 2:27:05 PM
^^^more importantly, she's got nothing BUT lies.

If she had a whole bunch of accomplishments and then exaggerated a bit in a speach, just for effect, no one would care one bit. It would be totally petty.

It's also more noticable, because she controls her camera time so much. There are simply very few facts to check in her campaign...and yet, every one of them is wrong.

Her lie to statement ratio is somehow 2 to 1, and that's amazing. It's like she's figured out how to lie 2 times in each individual statement.
 faith2565
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Posted: 9/16/2008 4:32:02 PM
The lead is over.

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CNN's National Poll of Polls

Barack Obama 46%

John McCain 46%
RECENT POLLS: 9/16 | 9/15 | 9/13 | 9/12
CNN's "poll of polls" consists of four surveys: Newsweek (Sept. 10-11), Gallup (Sept. 13-15), Diageo/Hotline (Sept. 13-15) and American Research Group (Sept. 13-15). The poll of polls showed 8% unsure; it does not have a sampling error. More polls
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Gallup Daily: Presidential Contest Remains a Dead Heat
September 16, 2008
The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows the presidential race essentially tied, with John McCain holding just a slight one-point advantage over Barack Obama, 47% to 46%. The candidates have been in a statistical dead heat for each of the last five days.
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For Obama’s Voters, It’s Change; for McCain’s, Experience
September 16, 2008
Despite John McCain’s recent efforts to adopt a “change” positioning, only 3% of his supporters volunteer that they are voting for the Republican nominee because of his ability to bring about change, compared to 37% of Obama supporters.

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Obama/Biden 08
 faith2565
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Posted: 9/16/2008 7:34:38 PM
That is not new. During the Palin fever a CNN reported that many people in Ohio will not vote for Obama because he is black. They will not say it out loud, but when they are called over the phones they admit his race is a true problem.

If that is true, what can he do?

If some people are still truly struggling with that on the inside all he can do is his best.

Someone else on one of the forums and one of my coworkers stated they truly feel on election day people will not vote for him because of his race.

It hurts me, but it may be true.

If race supersedes issues so be it.

Obama/Biden 08
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 175
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Posted: 9/16/2008 9:52:33 PM
Where to begin:

Obama may have read McCain's report, may not have. Doesn't matter, there were plenty of warnings. But the Democrats didn't get control till 2006 - before then they had no power to influence legislation.

By the time the grownups got a look at the mess, it was already done. Yet somehow the policies of McCain's chief economic advisor should now be laid at the feet of the Democrat.

I remember warnings - hell, we all assumed that the Treasury Secretary was doing something. Turns out we were wrong.

You really should take the partisan blinders off for just a moment before you hit send here.
 thatswhatshesaid
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 178
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Posted: 9/16/2008 10:50:15 PM
Southenlass,

Politics is rough, that's why its polite not to talk about it at parties.

Two months before the election, EVERY issue gets dredged up for the hundredth time, everyone's frustrations, and then the 24 hour news cycle gets everyone that much more intense about their causes, their candidates, etc.

Its great to have chatboards to hear other peoples views, but don't let yourself be swayed in reaction to peoples views, or tone or whatever, because then you're just cheating yourself out of YOUR true vote on the issues that matter most to you. There are about 7 more weeks of this stuff, so don't feel you need to draw a conclusion based on every individual thing you see or hear, or you'll drive yourself insane. I mean, whatever your stand on the issues, whether your candidate is winning losing, you can only think about war, abortions, killing animals for so long before you start to get physically depressed, and I can tell you're sensitive to this stuff and empathetic to animals, children. Maybe its time for a break from politics.
 johnnyprice
Joined: 9/13/2008
Msg: 180
Significant lead in polls for McCain
Posted: 9/17/2008 1:13:17 AM
The Polls will probably reflect the news which is coming to light tonight for Middle America.

McCain, in a written report, back in 2005, warned that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was on the brink of causing serious trouble for the financial/home environment. But, McCain was ignored mostly...by Congress. Including Obama, who received thousands in funds from both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Plus, Dem. Barney Frank could have issued a warning and did nothing.

The Polls are simply reflecting the sentiment of America as the truth comes out about Obama.


I'd love to try whatever this woman is smoking.

Obama recieved a total of... oh wait for it.... $126,349 since 1989. Woohooo!

FROM PACS
$6,000

FROM INDIVIDUALS
$120,349

I hope they pin Obama to the wall for this and McCain to the wall for the billions being pumped overseas for the war, and the billions paid overseas for oil - big oil that McCain has spent a lifetime lobbying for and getting kickbacks for, while stifling alternative energy initiatives. Drill baby drill LOL

And for the record, the polls indeed are reflecting the sentiments of America which is why McCain has lost his lead after the RNC AND the Palin celebrity pick. The election is tied... well, it's really not... Democrats have out-registered Republicans in record numbers this year. The polls reflect people who voted in previous elections, not new voters of which there are many. The young rarely come out to vote, but considering how historic and dramatic this election has been, I don't doubt they're going to come out in droves.
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 181
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Posted: 9/17/2008 7:17:07 AM
And yet another post by Miss Crayon, who doesn't like to source her information.


Here's more for you:
http://race42008.com/2008/09/16/mccain-warned-of-fannie-mae-accounting-scandal-sought-reform-in-2006/


I think they are supposed to start tomorrow night.


First Presidential debate is September 26 at the University of Mississippi. You can see the see the entire schedule here:

http://www.youdecide2008.com/2008/08/21/official-2008-obama-mccain-presidential-debate-schedule/

 thatswhatshesaid
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 183
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Posted: 9/17/2008 8:22:50 AM
The problem with fannie mae was not lobbyists. This is an evil buzz word of the election year, because no one understands what lobbyists do.

Fannie, just like aig, lehman, merril lynch, and all the failed banks failed for one reason; the housing bubble burst and the financial instruments they held became worthless.

People with high intrest payments on 250,000 loans couldn't refinance, because their house, that used to be worth 300k, is now worth 200k, for example. So when the terms of those sub-primes changed and the initial 5 year low payment period ran out, and payments shot up to 2000 a month from 1000, people defaulted, since their loan was worth more than their house, and their payments were more expensive than rent.

So the mortgages on every home that met this criteria were worthless, and so lehman, aig, etc, suddenly had no payments coming in each month on people's mortgage and the property they were forclosing on was worth much less than the amount they had lent. Also, these houses are unsellable, because of the excess supply of houses for sale right now.

Nothing to do with lobbyists.
 thatswhatshesaid
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 185
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Posted: 9/17/2008 8:40:35 AM
Sorry montreal, I meant to say, fannie mae's crisis had nothing to do with an advantage they had due to THEIR lobbyists. Furthermore, it had nothing to do with their accounting methods. Fannie was not an enron type situation where the company was incumbered in debt that was simply hidden through shady accounting. The fannie mae accounting inquiry, which was resolved in 06 had to do with profit reporting that was sometimes too high, sometimes too low, but was reported in such a way that would stablize the value of the stock.

I agree, the lobbyists that pushed for deregulation since the begining of the bush era are ultimately what caused the real estate bubble to swell and burst, taking down banks that didn't even participate in making the sub prime loans.
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 186
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Posted: 9/17/2008 10:55:30 AM

You want to know why McCain's numbers are falling, as Wall Street stumbles ?


It has most to do with the rise in negative ads by Obama. Obama's ads this week are 77 percent negative compared to 56 percent for McCain.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/obama_airs_more_negative_ads_s.html

You're giving the average voter way too much credit. Regardless of what conclusions they would come to from the evidence you presented above, most voters don't read anything and make their minds up based on ads, what they hear from friends, etc.
 johnnyprice
Joined: 9/13/2008
Msg: 187
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Posted: 9/17/2008 1:08:27 PM
It has most to do with the rise in negative ads by Obama. Obama's ads this week are 77 percent negative compared to 56 percent for McCain.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/17/obama_airs_more_negative_ads_s.html

You're giving the average voter way too much credit. Regardless of what conclusions they would come to from the evidence you presented above, most voters don't read anything and make their minds up based on ads, what they hear from friends, etc.


Amazing isn't it, considering the ads McCain has run are so far out of the stratosphere when it comes to lies that members of his own party are criticizing him. McCain has lost all credibility. The man is unscrupulous. And you're the woman who claims she can't trust Obama's ethics.

Obama ahead: http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/
 johnnyprice
Joined: 9/13/2008
Msg: 188
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Posted: 9/17/2008 2:08:32 PM
Hey flyonthewayll, here's a woman in your own image:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/17/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain-2/

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

LOL. That's rich. An ultra rich elitist who is American but lives overseas, is married to an investment banker, calling Obama elitist. The "I don't trust him", "he makes me uncomfortable" sentiments that you've made claim to on this forum.

Do you people ever hear yourselves? How do you look at yourself in the mirror and keep a straight face?

She's just as backhanded in her logic as you are, and as hypocritical as McCain and his entire campaign, which defies and tarnishes much of his past accomplishments.
 faith2565
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Obama is back in the lead! YEAH!!!
Posted: 9/17/2008 2:12:57 PM
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GALLUP POLL - ELECTION NEWS

Gallup Daily: Obama 47%, McCain 45% NEW
September 17, 2008
The Sept. 14-16 Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows Barack Obama with 47% support among registered voters, and John McCain with 45%; although not a statistically significant lead for Obama, this marks the first time since the week of the Republican National Convention that McCain has not held at least a slight edge.

Obama/Biden 08
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 190
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Posted: 9/17/2008 2:43:45 PM

And you're the woman who claims she can't trust Obama's ethics.


Uh no. I'm the woman who doesn't trust Obama's lack of experience. The ethical issues are secondary.
 flyonthewall!
Joined: 3/31/2008
Msg: 191
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Posted: 9/17/2008 2:48:54 PM
And Jimmy Carter had the least of any modern President, and look what that got us!
 johnnyprice
Joined: 9/13/2008
Msg: 192
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Posted: 9/17/2008 3:03:17 PM
Uh no. I'm the woman who doesn't trust Obama's lack of experience. The ethical issues are secondary.


All the [military] experience in the world didn't stop McCain from supporting and continuing to support the blunder of the 21st Century that is Iraq. Experience means little if one doesn't learn from it.

Let me guess, you think the surge is working because McCain and Lieberman say so. In fact the 80% decrease in violence began over 2 years ago long before the surge for many reasons - putting insurgents on the payroll to kill each other, diplomacy, blockading ethnic factions apart. The "surge" is icing on the cake, if one wants to be kind. It's really just political fluff

If one agrees with Bush 90% of the time (a failed President and failed businessman), one should question what judgement he has.

Try again.
 faith2565
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Posted: 9/17/2008 3:26:08 PM
tryncatchme,

Obama is back in the lead 47/45. The Palin effect is running its course.
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