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 SteelCity1981
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I wonder how the polls are going to look after this blockbuster announcement.
 Barredbard
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is................................
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:12:39 PM
McCain's choice of for Vice President is intriguing, even if his motives would seem somewhat transparent even to a neophyte. One envisions a scenario where rampant feminists - disillusioned by Hillary's loss - flock to the republican party in droves and crown McCain the new paladin of women's rights. At least that's the hope, and it is not entirely without merit. Voters have proved over and over again that they are especially susceptible to such manipulations. Older Caucasians as well, uneasy about Obama's loyalties, ethnic heritage, religion and his dietary etiquettes, would also find this latest move appealing. 'We'll swap you a minority for a minority. How about that?' But I digress. I am writing this in response to someone's post alleging that Obama's inexperience was somehow worse than Sarah Palin's.

I'll confess my initial choice for the candidacy was John Edwards. He had a certain southern charm, experience and eloquence that I found appealing. Besides, he is a white, protestant male - cut in the same cloth, so to speak, of other prior White House occupants. Tired of the the socioeconomic ambiance of the past 8 years, and elevating party interests, I felt that neither Hillary or Obama really stood a good chance against McCain ultimately. I had liked McCaine in yesteryears, before his need to consolidate the republicans behind him made him less of a Maverick than his party's figurehead. But the media ignored Edwards, focusing their attentions on the somewhat unprecedented spectacle of the two minorities gunning for the candidacy. After he dropped out, I was won over by Obama, not because he is black - that would be silly - but because of his charisma, his apparent intellect and his force of personality. Hillary showed evidence of the latter, but not of the first. And as the campaign developed, I began to admire Obama's eloquence, his calm demeanor under fire and his astute strategies.

'Other democrats' criticized Obama for his lack of experience simply because it was really the only thing they could hang their hats on. Hillary, with her insider's experience in the White House, was especially well placed to deliver such arguments. Heck, I would have done the same if I'd been in her shoes. I suppose, even Monica Lewinsky would also have felt justified in touting her experience in the White House, since it is arguably more than Obama can lay claim to. The point is that this is the one time that relative inexperience in the White House is actually appealing. After all, experience does not seem to have mitigated W. Bush's reign in the White House, despite all the experience he seems to be drowning in. All said and done, I would rather have competence and relative inexperience in the White House than incompetence and experience. As a boon, because Obama is so affable, he appears to be especially qualified to undo the damage that the Bush administration has wreaked in US foreign relations. They love him overseas, and despite the foreseeable cynism from his opposers, this is a very salient feature. Yes, it is true that the US is almighty and strong, but we cannot afford to be completely alienated from the rest of the world.

What I do find interesting is the divide between the young and old in this campaign. The young are especially receptive to Obama's message, whereas the old would rather have Hillary, McCain or nobody at all. I am pretty sure I know why this is the case, but I'll desist from pointing accusing fingers. I don't know much about Sarah Palin, but if she proves to be politically astute and competent, she'll eventually gain my admiration.
 SteelCity1981
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:15:25 PM
Now that was truly a marvick move on McCain's part by picking Palin as the VP.
 SteelCity1981
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:19:06 PM
HER lack of foreign policy? Can we say ummmm. . . hypocrite ?


^^^exactly.
 exodusi1
Joined: 8/19/2006
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:23:26 PM
Badger, it isn't cause we're scared. . .

I'm not worried in the slightest!

America doesn't want to continue down the broken path.

Besides, you can always count on the neocons to do their Circle Je. . .
 rayzrsharp
Joined: 7/29/2008
Msg: 131
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:25:19 PM
This just in.... MSNBC states that John McCain never even knew Palin nor had he ever met her. She was not vetted at all. They went on to say that she admittedly stated that she "didn't know much about the Iraq war. I haven't given it much thought." Wow. Great pick John. Talk about a learning curve. Unless she stays on google for the next few weeks day in day out she is going to get destroyed by Biden. I actually feel a little bad for her, because she comes across as extremely personable and likable and in another race, she would probably make a great candidate. But just not now.
 Kiss_My_Karma~
Joined: 7/4/2005
Msg: 132
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:28:13 PM

At least McCain didn't completely DISS Hillary and the millions of WOMEN who supported her!


No, but Palin did. I wonder how many of the women she's trying to woo have seen the Newsweek interview where she said this:


Although a major consideration in Palin's selection was her appeal to former Clinton supporters in the contentious Democratic primary[75], Palin herself has criticized Clinton, describing her as "whining" and saying, "that doesn't do us any good, women in politics, women in general, wanting to progress this country" in a Newsweek interview.



Hee hee.....and she thinks she's gonna get the Hillary supporters with that?
 SteelCity1981
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:30:02 PM
Palin is going to counter balance McCain. McCain is weak where Palin is strong and that's all that matters just like Biden is to Obama.
 Kiss_My_Karma~
Joined: 7/4/2005
Msg: 134
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:34:45 PM

you know the major difference between Obama being inexperienced and Palin being inexperienced?

Palin has the humility to at least know she has to understudy for a while..



Gee, and I would say so does Obama and that is why he is highlighting Biden's foreign policy experience, that's why he went on his overseas tour.......


Palin is not in a position to admit she's humble. She just IS.

And I hardly think that her showing 'humility' is enough to win an election. Especially when she is a virtual unknown who rose to power with 250,000 something votes. Woo-hoo! I just looked her up on wiki...she seems ok. But she is nowhere near ready to be the President of the United States. As some have said, she's just a heartbeat away......
 wallstreetfarmer
Joined: 8/24/2008
Msg: 135
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Posted: 8/29/2008 2:36:17 PM
This is for rayzrsharp

This is just a small piece, but it will give you an insight into why Barack Obama and other extreme liberal politicians are fundamentally wrong in the way they want to solve problems. If you truly believe that larger government and "socialism" works and is what you desire then you may just want to move to another country.

The following is directly from Senator Obama’s “New Energy for America” Plan found on his website.

• Immediately Provide Emergency Energy Rebate. Barack Obama will require oil companies to
take a reasonable share of their record‐breaking windfall profits and use it to provide direct relief
worth $500 for an individual and $1,000 for a married couple. The relief would be delivered as
quickly as possible to help families cope with the rising price of gasoline, food and other
necessities. The rebates would be fully paid for with five years of a windfall profits tax on record
oil company profits. This relief would be a down payment on Obama’s long‐term plan to provide
middle‐class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief. The Obama energy
rebates will: offset the entire increase in gas prices for a working family over the next four
months; or pay for the entire increase in winter heating bills for a typical family in a cold‐weather
state. In addition, Obama has proposed setting aside a portion of a second round of fiscal stimulus
to ensure sufficient funding for home heating and weatherization assistance as we move into the
fall and winter months


The emotional argument to help people is a good one that tugs on the strings of Americans hearts. No one on either side of the isle would say they don’t want to help struggling families. The major problem with this is that Senator Obama wants to impose a “windfall profits tax.” History has already proven that this does not work, and in fact increases gas prices in the long run. Fundamentally the argument for “windfall profits” is wrong. Why?
1. Jimmy Carter did it… it didn’t work, gas prices rose, and even the NY Times admitted it was a wrong move. (I will not go further into that one… look up what happened when Jimmy Carter did this)
2. Exxon’s profit margin is 10.17%. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=XOM (If a 10% profit margin is your idea of “windfall profits” you have a serious problem!) Google’s profit margin is 24.63% http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=Goog
3. I do not believe in wealth distribution, and that is what this is. No government has the right to tell me or a publicly traded company that we made “too much money.” If that is what you want then move to Europe and pay upwards of 50% in taxes.
4. Punishing a publicly traded company like this punishes the working class, the majority of common stock of oil companies is held by us Americans! Look at your mutual funds, 401K/403b plans, insurance companies holdings, municipalities financial holdings….. you will find large strong companies like the very same oil companies Barack Obama wants punish. Socialism does not work.
 o4
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 136
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:37:52 PM
you know the major difference between Obama being inexperienced and Palin being inexperienced?

Alongside the humility, another is that the experience that she does have is in an executive office in government rather than the legislative. ...and the fact that this executive is going for the proper 'understudy' position rather than the whole enchilada in her first time out in Washington.

Another difference worth noting in the teams: The one that is promising "change" has brought one of Washington's fixtures with him.
 o4
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 137
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:44:39 PM
Then McCain and Biden could go at it later.

Could we let them debate in a bar over a beer? These two are just about old buddies....it'd be much more appropriate, wouldn't it?
 Barredbard
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:48:22 PM
Palin has the humility to at least know she has to understudy for a while?

Yeah. I suppose that's a salient point when one also considers the fact that Obama is quite popular whereas she is relatively unknown. Her selection probably shocked her more than it did anyone else. I am at pains to understand why certain people seem to view popularity with such scorn. In a nation that prides itself on being founded on republican principles, popularity is a bad thing? And republicans are renowned for their humility?
 SteelCity1981
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:53:16 PM
I think for the first time in this forum the left is getting out numbered by the right.
Stop the presses!!!!
 Kiss_My_Karma~
Joined: 7/4/2005
Msg: 141
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 2:55:54 PM
We must remember, fellow Republicans, that the democratic party doesnt always share the same appreciation for the character quality of humility


Considering the source on that one...thanks for the laugh, toots!

Obama does have more than charisma. He told you all about it last night. And what will the Republicans do with a war hero running with someone who hasn't given the Iraq war much thought....though her son was sent over last fall?

Hilarity ensues and Obama wins in a landslide is my prediction!

P.S. ty for the wb exodus....I guess only you and nomadic missed me. Sniff--sob!
 Barredbard
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Posted: 8/29/2008 2:56:32 PM
This is to 'a bit nomadic'...

Touche. Very nicely done....
 exodusi1
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 3:06:49 PM
I would bet a thousand buck, she isn't going to be on the ticket in three weeks. . . This is a way to make sure all of the media is focused on them for a week, trying to mitigate the fact that 38,000,000 people tuned into his speech last night. I can't wait for the numbers on his! Anyone want to bet that he doesn't reach 18,000,000?

She is a nice diversion, but she will be replaced by Mitt Romney in a few weeks, so they can again, stir momentum. . . This simply means they are desperate for ANY meda attention.
 Bluesman2008
Joined: 4/2/2008
Msg: 144
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 3:10:27 PM

Mccain just got all the disgruntled Hillary voters! he just WON the elction!!!


That's funny. You really think the "disgrunteled" Hillary supporters would consider an all Pro-life ticket? You must be dreaming.

If McCain was going to pick a woman for that purpose there are lots of other women far more qualified for VP. McCain is definitely losing it.


With all due respect, kissing your new running mate during her acceptance is totally unprofessional.


Given McCain's experience with women (I mean womanizing) any bets what's going on in Cindy McCain's mind right about now? LOL. I can hear it now.


GOV. PALIN'S SON IS FIGHTING IN IRAQ!!!


And Biden's son is on his way there. So what?


If this isnt the most blatent attempt at pandering to women I dont know what is.


You got that right. McCain just handed the presidency over to Obama.


Dan Quayle in a pantsuit.


I truly hope she can spell tomato LOL.

All I can say is thank you John McCain. Thank you thank you thank you and go silently into the night LMAO.

Most of the Hillary supporters who were asked if they would vote a McCain/Palin ticket said no way. They all said he was pandering to women. Sorry John. It won't work.


Dan Quayle in a pantsuit.



explicitly saying that John McCain put Sarah Palin on the ticket because she has a vagina:


That would be a no-brainer. LMAO. Just too funny.


she isn't running for President, she's running for Vice President.


Considering McCain's age, his cancer history, his questionable mental capacity, she's doing just that and she ain't ready for prime time if McCain were to kick the bucket in office.


McCain can't even fill up the 12,000-seat Nutter Center


In all fairness to McCain, McCain DID fill up a deli. There were 12 people there. I counted them. But of course he had some competition. Obama was addressing (successfully I might add) over a quarter million people in Germany who loved him. The whole world loves him. Reality check.


So, WHY did McCain really pick Palin? WHAT WAS HE THINKING?


She's a hottie LOL. McCain is a womanizer. Get it? I can just see those late night conferences LMAO. I'll bet Cindy will demand to be there for every one of them. That's just too funny.


I have chosen Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska as my choice for the Republican nominee for Vice President.


McCain kills two birds with one stone (and shoots himself in the foot in so doing). She's pro oil, pro life and a female? Who? McCain pander? ROTFLMAO. Oh yes indeedy.


We must remember, fellow Republicans, that the democratic party doesnt always share the same appreciation for the character quality of humility.


Oh, and you do? LMAO.


Palin has the humility to at least know she has to understudy for a while?


Now hold everything. Back up the truck. Didn't I hear you righties insist the VP slot wasn't an on-the-job-training position? The right must be really desperate. I can't wait for the debates. Obama will eat McCain for lunch as will Biden with Palin.
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/29/2008 3:26:51 PM
Greeaat! Well, we'll definitely see if the Koolaid continues!
 Blacksheep
Joined: 6/28/2004
Msg: 146
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Posted: 8/29/2008 3:29:14 PM
Redd


hey..maybe she can ask Obama to coach her on that.



No need to bother the President with such tasks, his teaching days are over.
Besides Biden will give her all the schooling she needs for her future run for office since she and McCain are heading back to their respective states after 11/4/08.


Barack Obama/Joe Biden 08'
 exodusi1
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Posted: 8/29/2008 3:30:00 PM
Keep believeing that!

It will serve you well in November!

Has anyone ever explained the Osterich thing to you?
 motownmaniax
Joined: 8/13/2006
Msg: 148
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 3:32:50 PM
For those that are comparing Palin and Obama's lack of political acumen and savvy (since even with limited experience, he still beats her hands down), Obama has just weathered a grueling months-long primary campaign, the toughest in decades, maybe ever. He's battle tested. She isn't.

Obama has proven himself a great orator (some have evidently forgotten he wrote most if not all of the crucial, make-or-break speeches he gave during his campaign thus far). She hasn't.

I have complete confidence Obama will handle himself well in debates against McCain. I don't with Palin. Unless she has some sort of Vulcan mind-meld to help absorb information, Biden will slaughter her.

Even on basic comparisons, Obama comes out ahead.
 o4
Joined: 4/7/2007
Msg: 149
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 3:35:19 PM
Greeaat! Well, we'll definitely see if the Koolaid continues!

Friend! Wake up! Don't you see that the Koolaid was all the words of the speech last night!!???? ObamAllHat doesn't have the experience to deliver! Yes, he's got a silver tongue!....but NOT the means! Can you tell me with what he's going to do it? Only one of the two has the experience and relationships already in place to get it or anything done.....
If anyone is drinking Koolaid here, it's the one's who didn't question him!
 exodusi1
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It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 8/29/2008 3:35:55 PM
Meow!



Ahhhemmmm.

MEow. . .

She is the sacrificial lamb, nothing more, nothing less. . . This is a publicity stunt, no way she is still on the ticket in November!
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