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 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 78
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?Page 7 of 8    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)
Homosexuality is abnormal behavior, that's inherent because if it was normal the homosexual wouldn't exist. We have a natural revulsion to the abnormal, whether it's the sight of someone with a severe facial disfigurement, or the sight of two men kissing.

Society is trying its best to make the abnormal normal, and for some it has. For most normal men though, it still grosses us out.
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 79
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/18/2010 9:34:30 PM
And yet, straight men seem to enjoy the sight of two girls making out, etc. Indeed, there is an entire entertainment industry that capitalizes on it. Go figure!
 Super_Eve
Joined: 10/23/2008
Msg: 80
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/18/2010 9:43:30 PM


Homosexuality is abnormal behavior, that's inherent because if it was normal the homosexual wouldn't exist.


I am just double-checking here...did this statement, make any sense, to anybody else? If it did, could someone please explain it to me?

 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 81
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/18/2010 9:51:29 PM
mtnwldflower-

See, it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. So if gay was normal, no baby would be made, and no gay person could be born in the first place.
 ea®ly
Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 82
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/18/2010 9:55:46 PM
I am just double-checking here...did this statement, make any sense

No, ...have you ever seen those word fridge magnets just slapped together randomly?

could someone please explain it to me?

I'm going with: "Fridge Magnets".


Homosexuality is abnormal behavior...

normal/abnormal is really between a person and their own preference, what is normal "for them", eating cheese could be considered normal, yet I have Cambodian friends who think eating moldy milk is revolting.

Seeing as how gender preference is a personal preference that need not influence anybody else, ..normal is in the eye of the beholder.


See, it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. So if gay was normal, no baby would be made, and no gay person could be born in the first place.


Not all man/women parings are fertile. Gays sperm still works, lesbians eggs still work, both gay and infertile straight pairings can procreate via other options than coitus.

Gender preference is being tied to a lot of gestational conditions, it is likely endogenic, not necessarily genetic. This is still within the realm of natural, ...and as there are precedents in nature, ...that's covered too.
 Super_Eve
Joined: 10/23/2008
Msg: 83
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/18/2010 9:57:32 PM
Wow...nature really does abhor a vacuum, doesn't it?

Downright astonishing, if you ask me...

Correction...social dynamics abhors a vacuum...
 grizzelda
Joined: 6/25/2006
Msg: 84
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What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 7:45:48 AM

Homosexuality is abnormal behavior, that's inherent because if it was normal the homosexual wouldn't exist. We have a natural revulsion to the abnormal, whether it's the sight of someone with a severe facial disfigurement, or the sight of two men kissing.

Society is trying its best to make the abnormal normal, and for some it has. For most normal men though, it still grosses us out.


Really? I would be willing to bet that this poster has absolutley no problem watching girl on girl porn though...Perhaps those with this same attitude can explain why homosexuality in males is not OK, but girl on girl is sexy or different?
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 85
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 7:55:01 AM
Perhaps those with this same attitude can explain why homosexuality in males is not OK, but girl on girl is sexy or different?


"It's naked, it's fun and we agree with both of them."

- Paul Reiser, Mad About You

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 86
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 12:03:02 PM
The good thing is that since they don't have reproductive sex, the bloodlines of homosexuals will eventually die out, and what you all perceive as normal will be revealed to be the negative circumstance of environment that it is. Feminism, Socialism, and the relative subjective reality that goes with them are the cause for the sudden boom in homosexuality. They cause psychological conditions that have been shown to even alter DNA.

Like I said, no matter to me, they won't have children and their bloodlines will end, which may have been the plan of the social engineers all along.
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 87
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 12:08:03 PM

The good thing is that since they don't have reproductive sex, the bloodlines of homosexuals will eventually die out, and what you all perceive as normal will be revealed to be the negative circumstance of environment that it is. Feminism, Socialism, and the relative subjective reality that goes with them are the cause for the sudden boom in homosexuality. They cause psychological conditions that have been shown to even alter DNA.


Gotta love idealogues for not actually knowing what they're talking about but not being afraid to express an opinion, regardless. However...since heterosexual couples have been giving birth to homosexual children for, well, ever and homosexual behaviour has been seen in several species other than us, then that pretty much sticks a pin in that "reasoning."
 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 88
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 12:19:46 PM
A long elaborate put down doesn't change the fact that my kids will not have to share the earth with descendants of homosexuals...

To go through such trouble in an attempt to put me down over simple logic sounds to me like the truth hurts to you. Just accept it and move on and save yourself the angst.

The only fridge magnets I have are for oven mitts. You seem to be referring to something that only the common uneducated masses are familiar with. I wouldn't know, can you explain this joke to me?
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 89
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 12:30:12 PM

A long elaborate put down doesn't change the fact that my kids will not have to share the earth with descendants of homosexuals...


Nor does denial or being misinformed change the fact that, yes, your kids could in fact be homosexual when they grow up. Relax! It happens. Remember when it was pointed out that, in fact, homosexuality has nothing to do with being sired by homosexuals. Indeed, it takes heterosexual parents to create a child. The chances are still there, regardless, that that child could be homosexual.


To go through such trouble in an attempt to put me down over simple logic sounds to me like the truth hurts to you.


Two phrases: "simple logic" and "truth." For those, see above.
 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 90
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:01:59 PM
^^^If you reread that post you'll realize you don't make sense.
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 91
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:06:16 PM

A long elaborate put down doesn't change the fact that my kids will not have to share the earth with descendants of homosexuals...


Well, given the faulty premise that somehow homosexuals must be sired by other homosexuals, this statement is pure fallaciousness. Indeed, given that a) heterosexual parents obvious can produce homosexual children and b) more than one species has individuals exhibiting homosexual behaviour, that adds another nail to that statement's coffin.

So basically, every parent has to face the entirely real possibility that their children could, as they sexually mature, be homosexual.
 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 92
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:20:01 PM
It's pretty simple logic guys. The gay people today won't have kids. So my kids won't share the earth with people that will never be born.

I didn't say that there wouldn't be new homosexuals from the current hetero pairings, what I said is that the current homosexual's bloodlines WILL end.

Eventually the socialism and feminism and the entirety of our crumbling society will collapse and homosexuality will again become the rare abnormality that it is without the social conditioning that is creating it now.
 desertrhino
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 93
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What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:29:11 PM

It's pretty simple logic guys. The gay people today won't have kids. So my kids won't share the earth with people that will never be born.

Strange... my ex-wife is a lesbian (That's a common vernacular term for "female homosexual," in case you need a little help getting it). Yet we have two wonderful children. By one single example, your hypothesis is destroyed. Alas, that's how science is... merciless. Additionally, I know male homosexuals who have also fathered children. Weird, huh?

Your logic, as well as your tolerance, needs a little work there, tin-hat-capitalist-boy.


Eventually the socialism and feminism and the entirety of our crumbling society will collapse and homosexuality will again become the rare abnormality that it is without the social conditioning that is creating it now.


Surely there is a manifesto in there somewhere; please do elaborate.
 AnarchoCapitalist
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 94
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:30:12 PM

Strange... my ex-wife is a lesbian


Actually, that's not strange at all
 stargazer1000
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 95
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 1:34:36 PM

It's pretty simple logic guys. The gay people today won't have kids. So my kids won't share the earth with people that will never be born.


Uh....yeeeaaahhhh! Okay. Unless you take into account the myriad other ways of producing children we have. Like in vitro fertilization. Or the fact that there are many homosexuals who have had children prior to coming out.

Actually, your children also won't have to share the Earth with a lot of people from heterosexual pairings that don't produce progeny. And since we've already established that hetero pairings can produce homosexual children, what's your point?

Ah...


Eventually the socialism and feminism and the entirety of our crumbling society will collapse and homosexuality will again become the rare abnormality that it is without the social conditioning that is creating it now.


Where simple logic and ideology diverge.
 ea®ly
Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 96
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 2:08:31 PM

You seem to be referring to something that only the common uneducated masses are familiar with.

It's one of those things you get to know about when you've had your own kids. Fridge magnet words, a learning aid to understanding words and their meanings at a young age, so hopefully they will grow into adults and be able to stitch words together that make sense.

The gay people today won't have kids.

Many do, via surrogates, adoption, etc.

So my kids won't share the earth with people that will never be born.

Since having children seems to be some people's form of achieving inclusion of Human Rights status, how many kids have you had?

Eventually the socialism and feminism and the entirety of our crumbling society will collapse and homosexuality will again become the rare abnormality that it is without the social conditioning that is creating it now.


Yeah, I'll bet that socialism and feminism are also behind my Cambodian friends not eating cheese. I could probably even make a better case for this than what you just dropped.

Either way, gays and lesbians aren't sterile, procreation is quite possible without gender attraction (many gay men marry and have kids... bet that's a shocker), and quite often man/women pairings are sterile.

And really, if the thought of; two of the same gender getting together sexually, is disgusting (yeah, it's an "ewww" for me too), ...why do some people think about it so much?

Hmmm?
 JustDukky
Joined: 7/8/2004
Msg: 97
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 3:27:35 PM
There are all kinds of love:
The love of a man for a woman,
the love of a man for his fellow man (No...not like that...I mean brotherly love...I mean, you know, guy stuff, sharing beers & patting his ass if he makes first down, etc.)
OK, the (more physical) love of a man for a man,
the love of a woman for a woman, (my personal favorite)
the love for my rubber apron...oops!...scratch that...I never said it...honest..

All kinds of love that cause no harm to anyone are perfectly permissible, if a little disgusting in the eyes of others, so PULEEZE...No kissing or hand holding in public places!...It only makes me jealous & hurts my itty itty feelin's.
 Super_Eve
Joined: 10/23/2008
Msg: 98
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 4:11:22 PM


All kinds of love that cause no harm to anyone are perfectly permissible, if a little disgusting in the eyes of others, so PULEEZE...No kissing or hand holding in public places!...It only makes me jealous & hurts my itty itty feelin's.




Consider yourself, publicly kissed!

 desertrhino
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 99
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What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 4:22:07 PM


Strange... my ex-wife is a lesbian

Actually, that's not strange at all

THAT was the best you could come up with? PUH - lease. At least have the balls to go for something with some depth. Something that might ACTUALLY cast aspersions on my manhood. Or even go for the Seinfeld reference and call me George. At least THAT might be worth a chuckle, if not really that witty. Sheesh.

I just regret that MY kids (and their kids, and so on, and so on...) will have to share the world with the get of ignorant bigots.

Now, back to the REST of the comment, which you so gracelessly attempted to side-step:

By one single example, your hypothesis is destroyed. Alas, that's how science is... merciless. Additionally, I know male homosexuals who have also fathered children. Weird, huh?

Your logic, as well as your tolerance, needs a little work there, tin-hat-capitalist-boy.

Address this part, if you've the balls to do so.

....aaaaaaaand, let's not forget this bit:


Eventually the socialism and feminism and the entirety of our crumbling society will collapse and homosexuality will again become the rare abnormality that it is without the social conditioning that is creating it now.

Surely there is a manifesto in there somewhere; please do elaborate.


Come, now, don't be shy, little one. Tell us ALL about your sophomoric observations on the causation link between socialism, feminism, and homosexuality. I particularly want to hear the bits about how that fosters homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom, and the effects of feminists' protesting of female-female porn on male libidos. Really. Don't hide your light under a bushel!
 JustDukky
Joined: 7/8/2004
Msg: 100
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 4:27:15 PM

Consider yourself, publicly kissed!


Awwww...Shucks!...

Now ya went & made me blush! Well...This'll learn ya!...Take That!...
 ea®ly
Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 101
What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/19/2010 4:55:49 PM
live and let live


That's what it all comes down to my brother...

Some expect the former as a "right", but cannot understand the latter as a "right", ...it is toxic to not understand the latter.


All kinds of love that cause no harm to anyone are perfectly permissible

What a beautiful world that would be, ...for everybody who can see past their own noses.
 luckygreentiger
Joined: 1/5/2009
Msg: 102
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What defines a straight mans view of homosexuals?
Posted: 1/20/2010 1:49:37 AM

A long elaborate put down doesn't change the fact that my kids will not have to share the earth with descendants of homosexuals...


wrong.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/teens+higher+risk+pregnancy+study/1082366/story.html

i know several gay people that have children as a result of trying to 'make themselves straight' or to please parents or to make them appear straight.
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