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 hatemycelly
Joined: 10/22/2008
Msg: 79
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Well I enjoy the sun salutations. I started yoga to accent my fitness during winter months. No I dont go to classes because ya its a 'girl-thing' and being a guy that is single and looking for a woman. I dont really want to be painted with the gay brush.

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 hatemycelly
Joined: 10/22/2008
Msg: 81
Why do so few men take part in yoga.?
Posted: 2/12/2009 6:24:42 PM
well, I never said I was logical.

j
 itechman63
Joined: 7/7/2005
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Posted: 4/15/2009 9:47:56 AM
Personally I'd enjoy taking a yoga class for it's benefits in balance, flexibility, and mental focus but I believe the nearest one to me is an hour away in a time zone an hour ahead. It just seems to me that with the physical and mental benefits of Yoga, that everything you do you would do better. Basically an overall foundation for everything that you do.
 DJKasper1981
Joined: 2/8/2007
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Posted: 4/15/2009 2:47:21 PM
If you ever notice all the guys that do try yoga are usually older also. I for one never wanted to try yoga until I was around 26. Then it was just for something new to do. Although when I did try it I found it a very good workout. Even tho when I started I felt very weird about it. To me it a good warm up to wightlifting workout or good for after.

I'd recommend it for any guy who would like his stretching to be more intresting & tiring.
 El_Mariachi
Joined: 4/21/2007
Msg: 94
Why do so few men take part in yoga.?
Posted: 4/18/2009 9:07:41 PM
Because it looks freaking funny?

I only do it because it's insanely relaxing (even though it's hard - I'm a beginner) and because I think my posture blows, which leads me to some pain. The yoga seems to kill the pain.

I don't think men want to relax when exercising. Sometimes women do.
 DH Guy
Joined: 4/27/2009
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Posted: 5/1/2009 10:34:14 PM
1. Same reason most men don't do ballet.

2. Antomically not as flexabale as females, so were unable to hold some of the poses. And yes, we can tell your snickering, although your holding a straight face!

3. We don't like the dirty looks, or the uncomfortable posturing that goes on when were positioned behind you. We can't help it if your hanging out of your clothes, or if you butt is in our line of vision. We don't intentionally look....at least not always.

4.We have more sensitive parts, that usually need repositioning for comfort, or from falling out of our shorts, and you girls get grossed out and offended when we do.

5. Men fart. We don't mind (isn't obvious by now). But we don't like the scowling, and dirty looks we get because of it.

6. Women fart. Women get embarrased, which makes us feel uncomfortable. Or sometimes well just snicker, but it's just out of nervousnous, well not always.

7. You have to get barefooted. Our feet stink! At least that what you always tell us.

8. Your feet stink, but were nice enough not to tell you.

9. Our shorts go up the crack of our b#tts during some of the posses. Were not to fond of the thong feeling, and again you girls get upset when we pick our shorts.

10. The poses are alot harder for men than for women. We don't mind being out done by a woman, we just don't like the hazing we get from our buddies (girl buddies as well. you know it happens!) for having been out done by a woman.

11. We don't like getting labelled as the creepy guy from yoga class. Unless the guy's gay, we always get the stank-eye because you girls think were looking at your butts, up you shorts, or up your shirts, ect. Or only taking the class to pick up women, which is generally true,...and every one knows it, because everyone knows GUYS DON"T DO YOGA!
 Lux Aeternum
Joined: 11/7/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2009 12:26:26 AM
I will go to yoga if my girlfriend wants me to, mainly because it's something we can share. But I do my flexibility in karate class, my strength training in a gym, and my meditation alone.

I might go by myself if I needed to meet someone new...
 zarathustra00
Joined: 4/28/2009
Msg: 108
Why do so few men take part in yoga.?
Posted: 5/9/2009 5:21:28 AM
I took a power yoga class for about 6 months. After that I just began stretching on my own for 15-20 min incorporating some of the stretches I learned from there. I had lower back problems too and the teacher herself confirmed that yoga wasn't really the best for that.

And yeah, I did first take the class because I thought the instructor was cute.


I'm also a little skeptical about how effective it is, I know girls who have taken yoga for years and still can't touch their toes


Just like anything else, they have to learn to still push themselves even in the class. Just like all the regular gym rats, many you wouldn't even be able to tell ever touched weights but that doesn't negate the effectiveness of proper resistance training.
 localvanboy
Joined: 9/11/2006
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Posted: 5/11/2009 1:22:34 AM
I just started taking yoga at the suggestion of my massage therapist! I started my first class back in June 2008. The only reason why I even considered yoga was because my shoulders and upper back were usually pretty tense! (a good sign that I was spending waaaaaaay too much time in front of my computer! )

She suggested I take some yoga. So I did! My first week in class was brutal. I was stretching muscles that I haven't used in what seemed like decades! My legs were sore and could barely walk!

But I persisted. Now almost a year later, I have to admit it was one of the best things I could have taken!
I think it's really helped me with my tennis and my hockey! Hey it never hurts to be more flexible anyways!

But it was developing my weak core strength. I think that alot of guys and girls have weak core strength. I know I certainly did!

What I have learned about yoga? It's NOT cardio. It's NOT muscle building. It's NOT about loosing weight.

What has it done for me? It has help me with flexibility (very important as we all get older!), being more calm (great cuz we live in a world that is very hyper!). More focused and better core strength.

I'm sure that there are other benefits that go along with practising yoga, but for now, I would strongly suggest it for all the guys out there! It's not to replace your cardio or weight lifting, but an addition to it!

Just my 2 cents worth about yoga!
 YogaRob
Joined: 3/14/2009
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Posted: 5/15/2009 7:34:40 AM
Many of you that have posted have no clue what Yoga is designed for. A very integral part of Yoga is breathing. Weight lifting cannot be compared to Yoga at all. Yoga for the most part will move all your muscles during a well designed practice. Notice..Practice..it's not a religion or a workout..you set your own boundries. I am a teacher and have practiced Yoga all over the world in beautiful settings and will never step foot in a gym again. Yoga not only improves strength but establishes a good foundation for balance.
One of my Yoga teachers is world renown , is 91 and has a hip replacement and you would never know it. Its hard to open the eyes, minds and hearts of macho guys who like to elevate their testosterone playing with weights. My body is chiseled all over from Yoga and I'm constantly oogled by my female classmates many of them younger..but the older woman who are lean and flexible are hottt!
It takes time to get into it..but once it does you will totally enjoy it. Namaste
 winteragain
Joined: 3/26/2009
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Why do so few men take part in yoga.?
Posted: 8/1/2009 7:56:14 PM
Pretty simple. Yoga stretches your muscles out and that's bad news if your goal is strength. This blunts the actin-myosin crossbridge action when a muscle contracts. Your motor neurons also take a hit as well as fiber recruitment so basically yoga makes a man weaker and no one wants to be weaker. It's great for girls because what else would be they doing besides long walks in the park and laundry.
 dogle0072
Joined: 7/18/2009
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Posted: 8/5/2009 12:27:49 PM
I'm from a community that must be the exception from the norm. I've seen many men taking yoga classes. I am a man and I teach Tai Chi classes. However, for the most part, women outnumber men in my classes. I don't think men see it as a viable form of exercise, meaning "no pain no gain" or you have to sweat or it doesn't count. I'm hear to tell you, we sweat in my classes.

Their is also the spiritual aspect of both yoga and Tai Chi. Men don't seem as anxious to explore there inner selves. They also debunk the theory that there is more to life than what you see.
 InkyP
Joined: 10/27/2009
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Posted: 11/19/2009 3:58:27 PM


Yoga has saved my shoulders and back SO I COULD DO WEIGHT TRAINING!

Nothing more relaxing then an hour yoga class in the evening.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 12/2/2009 6:19:03 PM
RE Msg: 178 by DaveB951:
My point exactly. You are suggesting that one has to go and see experienced upper level practioners to show any real signs of physical athleticism ? If that is the case.... then my point is well made. A few months of a mixture of dedicated calisthenics, weight lifting, cardio, track and field, etc. etc. will yield considerabe bang for the buck showing superb results in physical appearance without having to go and see experienced practioners.
That's what I thought, until I took up doing Yoga every day for a few months. I stopped looking at how I was doing and just got on with it. Suddenly after 2 months, I had ridiculous strength and ridiculous definition. I had already been told that even doing serious weights and gym, it would take 6 months to see any real difference, and they are much more intense than doing Yoga. Considering that I went on a "no pain" attittude when doing Yoga, I should have got almost no results. Yet, I got super-strong and super-fit, super-quick.
 Dwayne2010
Joined: 4/19/2009
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Why do so few men take part in yoga.?
Posted: 12/4/2009 10:28:19 AM
I agree with batman. Same goes for aerobics. I don;t go because I think the woman are thinking that I am staring at them. IN my defence, I don't mean to look! I'm a guy. But still, I don;t want to make the girls uncomfortable.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2009 10:51:04 AM
RE Msg: 184 by Edsta:
In all fairness, with a competent trainer and a reasonable change in eating habits, most people see noticeable results from the gym within 2-3 months. Not saying they'll look like ripped gods, just different from where they were before.
That's what I thought too. But I got ripped enough that I walked into a room with a flat of women who'd known me for 6 months prior, took my shirt off, and they all gasped like they do at strippers. I was just doing the washing up, and I just took off my shirt to not get water on the sleeves. I had a T-shirt on anyway, so I wasn't exactly showing off. I also have a negative body image, so I didn't like the attention, ran out, put my shirt on, and came back in. But even I couldn't deny for well over 3 months afterwards, that women were looking at me like I was piece of T-bone steak. I've never heard of anyone getting that kind of huge difference so soon from the gym or weight training.


The strength gains that yoga provides are mostly in the core muscles, though you do get better muscle tone throughout the body.
That's what I thought as well. But then one day after I'd been training with Yoga for 2.5 months, I'd vaulted myself onto the fridge, which was about the same level as my waist. I thought that was pretty cool. The person I was talking to, also sat on the fridge, and we kept talking. After a few minutes, I glanced down, and suddenly noticed that I hadn't let my body down. For 2-4 minutes, I was supported entirely by my hands. That was absolutely amazing for me, to have that kind of muscle strength. But what really got me, was that I hadn't even noticed at all. Even when I'd noticed, I felt absolutely no strain whatsoever. It was like I could have quite happily spent the entire afternoon supporting my body on my hands. I didn't even get any cramp in the muscles after, or the next day, like I do when I've pushed myself. It was so within my limits to support my body with my hands, that it wasn't even an effort that would be noticed. Now, I don't know about you, but that sounds like serious muscle strength.

Bear in mind, though, that I was doing the opposite of what people tell you in the gym, and in Yoga classes. I decided to just take it slow, and not put myself under any pressure whatsoever. So although even in Yoga classes, you'll still hear "no pain, no gain", I was doing the opposite. I was saying "no pain, good, pain, any pain, bad". That also meant that I was doing the Yoga a low slower, to avoid pain. So I was taking 2.5 hours all in all, because I was so slow. Maybe the time was enough. But if you said to anyone that they should only lift 0.5kg, for 20 reps, but take an hour doing them, to experience as little pain as possible, and that they'd get ripped by that, I think they'd say you're insane. That's basically not that different from what I did. But then, I wasn't doing it to get ripped. I was doing it that way, because I always gave up after pain, and I didn't want to give up this time.

Visible and dramatic increases in muscle mass are much more easily gotten through weight training, if cosmetics is your main priority rather than holistic wellness.
I know a few body-builders. You don't build up mass that quickly without steroids. Even then, it will make muscles bigger, not stronger or that much more toned. Even if you want a 6-pack, it was a body-builder who told me that lateral crunches are the only gym exercise that will do it, and weight training just doesn't help for that at all.

However, weight training will make you bigger. If that is your goal, great. I know that women love muscles.

However, someone quoted a study on POF that said that women preferred muscular men. It was old hat, but annoying, so I decided to read the actual study. Turned out that the majority of the women voted for toned men over muscular men by a large extent, and only preferred muscular men over men with no muscles at all. So if you really want to have the cosmetic benefits of being more attractive by exercise, you're far better off with toned muscles, and disciplines like Yoga or Pilates will give you that.

But it depends on what type of women you are going for. If you are going for women who will drool over Sly or Arnie, then you want huge muscles. If you are going for women who like fit men, they'll usually prefer someone toned.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2009 3:16:09 PM
RE Msg: 190 by Vanders Mark:
Body builders don't do efficient and functional exercises. Yes, you can build mass very quickly with a functional routine and if you eat LOTS. And it's strong mass...no water retention if you do it properly. I gained 10 lbs in three months after starting a functional strength training routine.
That sounds like a pretty good routine.

It's good to balance things out. Yoga is great for the entire body, physical as well as physiological, but there's no way in hell most yoga poses will give you the strength that pull ups can give you....mmmmaybe head stand and hand stand....
That's true, if you do it like many do, as if you were doing gym exercises, because it's then low-impact gym, and that's bound to build you up less than normal gym exercises which are designed for that. But it's not really meant to be done that way.

Yoga is designed to be a series of meditative poses that aim for balance and harmony, and that makes it the tortoise that outperforms the hare:

1) The emphasis is on holding a position constantly for several minutes, so you can meditate in the position, not in and out, and not pushing yourself as far as you can go quickly, and then letting go, as you cannot meditate all that well if you keep moving. This makes it isometric exercises, not isotonic exercises.

The body has 3 sets of muscles for 3 different purposes:
The first gives incredible power, for about 2 seconds, like when you lift an incredibly heavy weight.
The second kicks in after the first. It gives a lot of power, and can last for about 20 seconds, but it cannot give the incredible power that the first one did.
The third kicks in after the second. It gives very little power, but can last for as long as you have food in your body.
The body builds this way, as those are the 3 types of ways we use muscles, endurance with low power, short bursts of power, and extreme power but in incredibly short bursts. Each has the same power output overall, but spread over different speeds of output. So to build up, you need to build up your total power output. How you do that is not relevant, only that you do, as it will produce the same results throughout.

The significance is that if you hold a position like the plough for 2 minutes, you're supporting your back with your arms for 5 minutes. You cannot just let go, or you'll fall over. So your muscles are being worked to support 120 seconds of total power output. If you are doing pull-ups, the equivalent for pull-ups lasting 2 seconds each, is 60 reps. That's a lot. You will probably gain a lot, because you are pulling your whole body up. Maybe it's only 30 reps.

The difference is that the body can pace itself much, much easier, because Yoga consists of low impact endurance exercises. Because it's low impact, the body has time to instruct the liver to convert more carbs into energy, well before it hits a "wall". So you can keep going for hours without getting tired. That means that you can easily do a set of 1.5 hours, making an equivalent of over 1000 pull-ups without trying. You could count up the total reps you do in your session. But they aren't going to be anywhere near that in the early days, and Yoga already gets there, or close, in the beginning, because it's low impact.

Further, if the body has a bit more energy, it can go for a few more seconds on low impact, and so can easily extend each pose a few more seconds every few days. So it can accomplish the same as if you added 10 push-ups to your set every 3 days, forever, without any massive effort on your part. So for the more advanced practitioners, they will not only start out with a more powerful workout, but even their increases will be far greater than yours.

2) The emphasis is on holding a position comfortably, so that you can meditate in it, not pushing your body to it's total limit, because then it's too painful to concetrate on meditation. So there is an emphasis on not pushing yourself too much.

That has an effect that you rarely develop an injury via Yoga. So you don't need to take 6 weeks off for over-doing it every now and then. The low impact means that your body maintains a constant raised circulation, but doesn't burn itself out. So you often find that after Yoga, your body is raring to go. That's why it's often not a good idea to do Yoga just before bed, but at least a couple of hours before going to sleep.

But that also means you can do it every day, and this is encouraged, to ensure that you gain the benefits of meditation every single day. As a result, you can do a full workout every day. Gym exercises push your body, and they need time to restore the natural resources. So at most, you can work chest, then arms, then legs, meaning that your body only gets a total workout every 3 days, and even then, the workout is just not that consistent, and so much less impact overall.

3) The positions must be counter-balanced, one set to cover one side, then the other set to cover the other side. That's to ensure you are balanced in your meditation, and to ensure that you don't pull one side more than the other, and cause injury.

Thus, you do the shoulderstand, which focusses on the back of the legs, the torso, the spine and the arms, for a few minutes. Then you do the fish, which focusses on the front of the legs, the torso, the spine and the arms, for a few minutes. You can skip the shoulderstand and the fish if you don't have time. But if you do one, then you must do the other, because otherwise, you'll push the body one way, and not the other, and you'll put it seriously out of kilter.

The real problem with Yoga is the reason why gyms use isotonic exercises. When you lift a pull-up, you are only use one set of muscles. You use the corresponding set, to lower yourself. If you only use one side, then your muscles are seriously out of whack, and they don't work properly at all.

But, because Yoga is divided into pairs of poses, where each pair must both be done, or neither, you don't get the problem. First you work on one side, then the other. In pull-ups, it would be like lifting and holding the pull-up for 2 minutes. Then stopping and taking a few seconds as a breather. Then going back to the lifted position, lowering yourself to the lower position, and then holding that for 2 minutes. So by forming positions into pairs, you get the same benefits as the isotonics of the gym, but a much greater workout, with far less stress on the body, and no recovery time required.

As I said, it's the tortoise vs the hare, only because they are both working out on a regular basis, it's like a 100,000 mile race, that stretches over a year. In the first half day, the hare will make more ground, but because the tortoise works slowly but regularly, it makes a lot more ground every day, and over a year, it makes a heck of a lot more ground.

As a workout system, it's one of the most efficient I've ever found, but only so long as you do it in the ways that it was intended to do, and that's totally unlike the philosophy of exercise that is advertised in the West.

Dips, pull ups, hand stand pushups at the gym will help you with your yoga, and yoga will help your recovery from your gym routine...
Yoga will help with recovery. Gym exercises will help with yoga, provided you do the isotonic form where you just move into the position and then move out, without holding it for very long, because then you are using the same muscles that you are using for the gym. But if you're doing Yoga by holding positions, you're going to find that you just cannot hold it very long.
 scorpiomover
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Posted: 12/5/2009 11:38:08 AM
RE Msg: 196 by Edsta:
You make a very compelling case, and I'd be curious to check out your yoga class...it sounds like Iyengar yoga, which emphasizes alignment and holding poses much longer than other schools.
I didn't do it in a class at all. I got a book on Sivananda Yoga. I used to do it with my flat-mate, and we'd give each other tips. My ideas about Yoga were a combination of what I read, and what felt right by experience.

I've mostly done Ashtanga and Hatha yoga, wherein the poses are held for 3-5 breaths tops.
If that's all you were doing, you'd easily get more of a workout with weights. The body just isn't being taxed enough at all during any one pose to make any real impact.

I was intrigued by your account of how different your body now looks and how women respond to it, so out of curiousity I looked at your profile pics...and was very surprised. Are those old, pre-yoga photos?
I did it when I was 26. I didn't keep it up, and it shows. A lot. I'm still not that out of shape. But I know what I was like.
 scorpiomover
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Posted: 12/5/2009 6:40:26 PM
RE Msg: 198 by Edsta:
One last question: how'd you know how long to hold each pose? Were you using a clock/timer, just counting your breaths, or just going by how your body felt each time?
It's in the book. Some were counts of breaths, like the breathing exercises. Some were rounds, like the Sun Salutation. Some were time-based, like the major poses.

But the key with all of them, is to tailor it to you. If you push too far, you do yourself an injury, and then it takes days to heal, and the whole incremental low-impact doesn't work.

I found for myself there are 2 biting points, like in a stick-shift. There is about as far as you can go without any effort, then there is a little bit farther, when you use a tiny bit of effort, and then there is when it starts to hurt. I found that after a while, I could feel when I was at each boundary, like a biting-point, because I had to make more effort, to get over the boundary. I found that in the zero-effort zone, you didn't get much improvement. In the pain-zone, you got improvement, but you overdid it, and so you had to give yourself time to heal every week. The best improvement I had, by far, was when I stayed in the middle zone, a bit of effort, but no real pain, like when you do a stretch, and you know you're stretching a bit, but it's still quite comfortable to hold it for a few minutes.

The same is true of how long to stay in it. Only stay in the pose as long as you are comfortable. In the beginning, you may find that 10 seconds in the shoulderstand is a lot. Doesn't matter. Take your time. If you do, then you build up really quickly. But if you try to do too much too soon, you'll pull a muscle, or overstretch, and then the time healing will take a lot more time to do it slow but steady.

But this requires paying attention to your body. Think of it like a well-oiled machine. It already runs damn well. You're trying to give it a tune-up, not replace the cylinders. So treat it the same. If it's a little out of notch, give it a tweak. If it screams, stop.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 1/20/2013 2:34:54 AM

Why do so few men take part in yoga.?


Its hard?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pIgs03TYo4

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Whoaaaaa He is something.

I would think that took some extraordinary discipline and time to be able to do.
Inspiring.


Notice how there's not one quiver or shake during that whole sequence... tremendous muscular endurance!

^^^^^^^^^^^
That is absolutely amazing..
 UPTOYOU65
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Posted: 1/20/2013 4:40:26 AM
I don't know why unless they think it's not a good workout. I have done yoga in the past and if you keep your form and hold your poses correctly it is without a doubt a good workout.
 Chipsss
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Posted: 1/20/2013 1:09:48 PM
I do Yoga sometimes. According to Geoffrey Devereux it also makes you physically stronger in such a way that does not involve muscle size.
 LiterateHiker
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Posted: 1/21/2013 8:56:38 PM
Most men do not like to stretch.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 1/26/2013 3:43:34 PM
That lead singer from Maroon Five..He can bring on the YOGA.

I think it's hot when a man does it and does it well.
 billingsmason
Joined: 2/3/2012
Msg: 226
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Posted: 1/26/2013 5:31:07 PM
Yep it's a philosophy too....
occultism= the hidden/secret stuff

I do both physical and mental yoga often.
What real man doesn't own a pair of yoga pants?

Anyone else get this weird not so good feeling after doing it? Lasts about a half hour...
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