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 punem264
Joined: 7/26/2007
Msg: 158
God in a wordPage 6 of 12    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12)
I think when it comes down to it, FunnyandSweet48 aren't we all under the same GOD?
 FunnyAndSweet48
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 159
God in a word
Posted: 12/1/2008 8:38:28 PM
^^^punem264: I believe there is only one God/Creator, no matter what you choose to call Him & no matter what He means to you. To me, God is the essence of love, peace, kindness & all things good. Since I no longer have a human father, I look to God as my Father.

When conflict arises, I believe that the enemy/Satan is at work trying to lead me astray, so instead of allowing myself to react with anger, I will choose to let go and let God take charge of the situation. I remember my "pre-awareness" days when I would let my anger & frustration with a person or situation control of my actions & words ... it still happens occasionally, but I prefer not to go there as it only escalates the negative.

Although to some I may sound like one of those "fanatical Bible thumpers", I couldn't quote a line out of the Bible if my life depended on it. I can only speak from the heart.
 Wildman46
Joined: 6/4/2008
Msg: 160
God in a word
Posted: 12/1/2008 8:42:46 PM
I think this topic has been whipped to death. We really should think about putting this one to bed, just going around in circles now.
 Wind Chimez
Joined: 11/21/2008
Msg: 161
God in a word
Posted: 12/1/2008 8:49:20 PM
ROFL Wildman46 , I agree but it keeps getting resurrected!

Bring in an exorcist
 Wind Chimez
Joined: 11/21/2008
Msg: 163
God in a word
Posted: 12/1/2008 9:29:53 PM
^^^ ML, you have me hunting in the kitchen for some duct tape

P.S. Cute horse!
 Yappy lil Pine Needle
Joined: 4/28/2007
Msg: 164
God in a word
Posted: 12/1/2008 9:33:14 PM
Is Stephon. Dion God Will he look after us in Western Canada. or is the seperatist (bloc) the new God and will he look after us in Western Canada
 ForaktarU
Joined: 11/25/2008
Msg: 166
God in a word
Posted: 12/2/2008 2:32:16 AM
And let me just state this

Refering to music and everything else....is it all just noise
with out the space...emptyness? void between the note ( ADD WHATEVER )
that nothing<< is what defines .

PS, nothing is chaos......

 Straight Christian Lady
Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 167
God in a word
Posted: 12/2/2008 1:27:04 PM
Hmmm .. God in one word?

Word.
 garden variety hoe
Joined: 11/5/2008
Msg: 168
God in a word
Posted: 12/2/2008 1:28:02 PM
^^ to keep in the tradition.. ^^
God in a word?

Good Orderly Direction.
 SoLongThanksForAllTheFish
Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 169
God in a word
Posted: 12/2/2008 8:58:53 PM
It's not too late for the rest of you to go back and change your answer to "cat" too! :)
 Straight Christian Lady
Joined: 6/14/2007
Msg: 170
God in a word
Posted: 12/2/2008 11:17:25 PM
My cat definitely believes he's God.
 Halokitty™
Joined: 5/29/2008
Msg: 171
God in a word
Posted: 12/3/2008 10:01:54 PM
God in a word?

"Unreasonable".
 ktownkarma
Joined: 10/25/2008
Msg: 172
God in a word
Posted: 12/3/2008 11:35:11 PM
Controversial.


Though Faith is a really good word too, because it takes a hell of a lot of faith to believe in God. For some it's a really hard pill to swallow, some people are genuinely needy and lonely, some people enjoy the community religion offers, and some people are fanatics. God is there for people who need/want something/someone to believe in.

I'd believe in God, but I find it really stressful to think about the whole eternal life deal. I'd much rather just die and return to the earth. I believe in love, and good morals, and many other ideologies that all faiths possess but don't always practice. I don't believe in organized religion, because whenever we seem to group people together, they end up doing horrible horrible things.

But yeah, I like the idea that energy cannot be created or destroyed etc, and that our souls are pretty much energy, so in a way we do live forever - but it never gets boring this way. Plus this way I get to easier share myself with the world around me.

I hope that if God somehow did exist, that he'd give me the option to just.. die. I prefer that over an eternity of servitude to him, or an eternity in a fiery hell pit.

I'll respect everyone's beliefs, so please respect mine :)
 rebel777
Joined: 3/22/2007
Msg: 173
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God in a word
Posted: 12/3/2008 11:43:20 PM
hellarious......

oh and by the way I don't see god as a pusxy,more like a dog..
(messages this short..blah blah blah)
 lifeStudent
Joined: 2/16/2008
Msg: 174
God in a word
Posted: 12/4/2008 10:04:01 PM
Tyee,
You are confusing the human race with God. God came to teach us to be good to each other, forgiving, charitable, helpful and many other positive ways. The human race has chosen (yes he gave us free choice) to do horrible acts to each other. It was people who let Hitler kill millions of Jews, people of African lineage and Slavic's were also on his list. It was people that let Stalin kill even more of his own citizens. Just like it were self righteous do good er Christians that gave infected blankets to Canada's Aboriginal people. God has nothing to do with the evil that men do to each other. It is a sad excuse to not have faith. Even if you choose not to believe in God, Jesus is recorded in history, just like Abraham and Mohamed (the last prophesied prophet).

Just like most prefer to believe the worst of others they choose to believe God lets the horrible things happen. People let the sh*t happen and people need to take responsibility for each other.

Just my opinion.
 rockondon
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 175
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God in a word
Posted: 12/4/2008 11:46:15 PM
Indifferent. Cruel. Vindictive.

Someone who loves you like an abusive husband loves his wife with two black eyes. He tolerates her when she does what he wants but as soon as she steps out of line she pays in the most brutal way.
Someone who was so overjoyed at the torture and death of His only son that He rewarded mankind for it. Yay we can go to heaven now! If only He made more sons for us to kill off just imagine what we'd get.
 Life is Always Good
Joined: 10/8/2008
Msg: 176
God in a word
Posted: 12/4/2008 11:54:24 PM
Just a tiny bit off the line there.......perhaps 2 pills tonight would be better than one.
 FunnyAndSweet48
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 177
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 1:09:34 AM

God came to teach us to be good to each other, forgiving, charitable, helpful and many other positive ways. The human race has chosen (yes he gave us free choice) to do horrible acts to each other.... God has nothing to do with the evil that men do to each other. It is a sad excuse to not have faith.

 XHTML
Joined: 6/5/2008
Msg: 178
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 3:31:30 PM
lifestudent msg 177 ^^^


Tyee,
You are confusing the human race with God. God came to teach us to be good to each other, forgiving, charitable, helpful and many other positive ways. The human race has chosen (yes he gave us free choice) to do horrible acts to each other. It was people who let Hitler kill millions of Jews, people of African lineage and Slavic's were also on his list. It was people that let Stalin kill even more of his own citizens. Just like it were self righteous do good er Christians that gave infected blankets to Canada's Aboriginal people. God has nothing to do with the evil that men do to each other. It is a sad excuse to not have faith. Even if you choose not to believe in God, Jesus is recorded in history, just like Abraham and Mohamed (the last prophesied prophet).

Just like most prefer to believe the worst of others they choose to believe God lets the horrible things happen. People let the sh*t happen and people need to take responsibility for each other.

Just my opinion.


You are telling that I'm confused? I disagree.

Christians are taught/indoctrinated that God is all-powerful.

We have the account of God parting the Red Sea during the march of Moses when he led the Hebrews (Israelites) on their escape out of Egypt, so they would be able to enter the Promised Land.

Let's not forget God is reputed to have created the Earth in 7 days and 7 nights.

There are other tales of his might but these two alone are mighty impressive feats and will serve to demonstrate my point.

So if there such a god who is so all-powerful how can a rational person be persuaded to believe that he created millions of people to be slaughtered and tortured by the hands of others. Moreover, all those people that committed the crimes against humanity are products of his creation too.

If indeed god has the power to create the Earth and part the sea it is most reasonable he has the power to prevent misery.

You said "God had nothing to do with the evil that men do to each other." His choice? If he truly cared about his flocks he'd do a better job. Hence my choice of words "inept" and "uncaring" in Msg 7.

To live on this planet, with so much evil and hatred we need to find somewhere the strength to go on. Some believe in a god of their choosing.

Arguments like "he gave us free choice", are the rationalizations some turn to, for nothing else makes sense and they want and need to believe in something. How else can the misery be explained if not by believing its his great plan.

For the record, and as I've said before, I do not find fault with people who have faith and need to believe in something. I am proud to have many for friends and I'm quite certain they feel that way about me.

For the record OP in the opening post did NOT specify the discussion was limited to the Christian god, and I believe has not as of yet done so.
 FunnyAndSweet48
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 179
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 5:37:56 PM
I think that life is full of tests & lessons to be learned from the choices we make. God gave us free will to choose between right & wrong. If we make the wrong choice, we only have ourselves to blame but hopefully we will learn something from having made that wrong move & not do it again. Unfortunately some people are unwilling to accept the blame themselves, so they blame someone else or God instead.

Yes, the senseless death of children & others is absolutely atrocious. But through experiencing the loss of a child or some other earth-shattering trauma, there are valuable lessons we learn about ourselves, about people, love & life. I believe that wherever they are, those who have passed on are living happy, pain-free & wonderful lives, so instead of being angry that God took them away from us before we were ready to let them go, we should focus on being thankful that we had them for the time we did.
 XHTML
Joined: 6/5/2008
Msg: 181
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 6:03:10 PM
FAS

Did the millions of Jews who died at the hands of Nazis, or the hundreds of thousands of Rwandan Tutsis hacked and chopped to bits Hutu militia make a choice they they might learn from? No, they had no choice.

They were born as Jews or Tutsis and died for it. What lesson should they have have learned? Perhaps they fell asleep in class and flunked the quiz?

What lesson might the people who perished n the World Trade Centre towers learn?

Perhaps you are suggesting millions should suffer so others may learn lessons?

Who gets to choose their fate. Who is going to volunteer to be slaughtered so the rest of mankind can learn from their death?

FAS, are you going to the front of the queue in the group to be slaughtered so we can learn? Will you push or urge your children to that lineup?

Is it not this god who would choose the fate for the participants in his experiment?
 FunnyAndSweet48
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 182
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 8:30:59 PM

Perhaps you are suggesting millions should suffer so others may learn lessons?
Yes, that is sort of my point, that sometimes world suffering ... disasters such as the World Trade Towers situation, etc. occur so that society as a whole can be shaken up & start trying to find ways to live in peace. Perhaps these disasters might have altered the attitudes of those who would have otherwise walked the wrong path in life & become terrorists or mass murderers themselves ... who knows?


FAS, are you going to the front of the queue in the group to be slaughtered so we can learn? Will you push or urge your children to that lineup?
If I'm ever placed in a position of me or them, yes I would rather place myself in the line for slaughter rather than live forever with the guilt that someone else died because I didn't step forward. I've had this discussion with friends & family before & I believe my children would do the same.


and then god took a rib of Adam and created a woman.....
still wonder why a rib of all things..... but I shall not think evil thoughts ....

Maybe if God had taken Adam's wienie & given it to woman, she would not mistake it for her brain as man has often been known to do.
 PhatFat the WaterRat
Joined: 9/11/2008
Msg: 183
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 8:43:17 PM
after reading through many of these posts.....not saying WHICH ones....

Maybe if God had taken Adam's wienie & given it to woman, she would not mistake it for her brain as man has often been known to do.
.........
then wouldn't this be a bit like the blind leading the blind?

it is interesting to see how folks justify their beliefs and claim to abide by them,..... when push comes to shove,... we'll see.
 XHTML
Joined: 6/5/2008
Msg: 184
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 9:15:07 PM

Yes, that is sort of my point, that sometimes world suffering ... disasters such as the World Trade Towers situation, etc. occur so that society as a whole can be shaken up & start trying to find ways to live in peace. Perhaps these disasters might have altered the attitudes of those who would have otherwise walked the wrong path in life & become terrorists or mass murderers themselves ... who knows?


.... start trying to find ways to live in peace.

I cited only more recent examples. Throughout recorded history humanity is filled with seekers of peace and also makers of grief and takers of lives.

Perhaps this analogy will help me illustrate my point.
Keep in mind that believers preach that god is supremely powerful, knows everything and sees everything.

You are the caretaker/shepherd/playground supervisor and you are the only one in authority and far more powerful than your charges/sheep in your flock/children in your playground.

You become aware that some nasty individuals (let's call them bullies) in your flock hatch a plan to hurt the meeker individuals. It matters not how you became aware of the plan, whether you saw them carrying machetes, filling buildings with poisonous gas or hijacking an airliner, because after all, you know and see everything.

Now remember you are powerful. You have the power to intervene. You have the power to part the Red Sea and the power to make the Earth in 7 days and 7 nights, so surely can change their thoughts from evil thoughts to peaceful thoughts. Alternately you could smite them or turn them into stone or pillar of salt (as god has been reputed to have done). Ultimately you CAN stop the bullies.

FAS. From what I have learned of you I believe you are caring and loving person. Would you stop the bullies? I think you would.

So why doesn't your all-powerful, all-knowing god stop them?


If I'm ever placed in a position of me or them, yes I would rather place myself in the line for slaughter rather than live forever with the guilt that someone else died because I didn't step forward. I've had this discussion with friends & family before & I believe my children would do the same.


I don't doubt for a moment that you would make the noble sacrifice, if you have a choice. My point is millions weren't given a choice.
 lifeStudent
Joined: 2/16/2008
Msg: 185
God in a word
Posted: 12/5/2008 9:23:30 PM
T, You are not differentiating between the old testament and the new testament. Abraham, David, Moses etc. are from the old testament also the Jewish Bible. The new testament starts with Jesus, and He said that we were to go by the new rules and God's interventions ended. Not to say that apparitions at Lourdes and Medjugorje are not real, I believe they are. God does not put people into bad situations, we have done that all by ourselves and keep making the same mistakes over and over and then some dare to mock Him.
It was not my parents that took me to mass, they were sleeping when I went as a 9 year old almost every Sunday and at lunch through the week. My parents rarely went and that was well after I was already a member with my own envelopes.

I find it sad that so many do not embrace His gifts.

What are you doing to make the world less harsh? Do you do missionary work, teaching the less fortunate how to grow crops, build sanitary systems, drill wells, organize clothing drives and send books to countries where they don't have any?

I know of people from my place of worship who are putting their lives on the line in India to bring religious freedom to people in India. Did you know that along with the less fortunate of this planet there are 450 Christians who die for the cause in third world countries daily, a fact you could look up.

It is not critical to belong to a certain Church, but faith is not a crutch it is like the air I breath and the arms I use to hold my child.

Organized religion has damaged/corrupted some of the message but not it's essence, but men tend to break that which needs no fixing.
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