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 WanderingRain
Joined: 3/9/2008
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If science find a way to fix this then who knows there would be huge line ups in front of clinics....its about bringing them the option...but I don't think any body is working on this issue...and that is sad!


Actually... Science is fixing it... just in the way you may not expect. It's called sex-change.
I actually fell for a woman who I was told later was formerly a guy. And the science is so good now... you go, Really??? Daaamn! She's prettier and more sexy than MOST women.

Of course, in the end, so what if she was formerly a guy? She's still hot. Doesn't have the adam's apple, hips and all the "man-like" visual cues. She doesn't talk or move like a gay man. She just talks and acts... girl-like.

I guess it's just like being with a girl who was just sterile and can't give birth, is how I see it now.
Of course, she's the exception.
I'm still a guy so I wouldn't go out with someone who obviously still looks like a dude.

Here's a mind bender: Assuming both are attracted to you and want to be with you, bad:
Would you date a transgendered girl who is drop dead sexy (none of the usual "man-trait" cues) or would you date a real girl but is 500 pounds? haha. gotcha, eh?
Women can make the equivalent scenario...
But then, women seem to be far more forgiving of this than men.
I wonder why?
Most aggression on homosexuals are perpetrated by guys.
Is it ego? Is it just a trait drilled into us by some religious fascist dogma to treat different people with contempt?
Yesterday, it was Samaritans, Gentiles, Irishmen... Italians... Jews... Blacks... Latinos...
When you look at it, it's the same people peddling the hate once again. The same type of people who supported beating marchers in Alabama.
They hide behind their "moral code" or "religious teaching" as a reason to hate people.
Yes, you know who you are, you hater, you... :)


 Inicia
Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 51
being gay - genetic or social
Posted: 2/10/2009 6:48:40 PM
transgender and homosexual aren't the same thing. Many poeple who are homosexual do not wish to change their gender.
And some people who change their gender are homosexual.
 Twill348
Joined: 12/20/2008
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being gay - genetic or social
Posted: 2/11/2009 5:20:22 PM
They found the shyness gene. They would have foiund it sooner, but it was hiding behind a couple of other genes.
 Azazel6669
Joined: 2/2/2009
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Posted: 2/11/2009 6:19:59 PM
This is my opinion. I don't care what you think or how you view me. My foster brother was gay (he died from Pancreatitis back in 2006). The latest imperical evidence does show that it is at least in part, genetic. About three years ago, HBO had a program that dealt primarily with genetic sexual aberrations-namely, hermaphrodites, and people born without any genetalia whatsoever. However, they dedicated about ten minutes to a seven or eight year old boy who acted EXTREMELY effeminate. So, in my opinion, it IS genetic.
 freddiev
Joined: 7/11/2005
Msg: 54
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Posted: 2/17/2009 1:00:22 AM
I have called myself gay from the age of 13. I didn't stop fighting it till I was 22. I see gay and straight the same way now ,just a variant in the sexual attractions of people. Choice I do know never happens. We are attracted to people who makes us horny. pretty simple really
 Merrylass
Joined: 12/30/2007
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Posted: 2/27/2009 7:47:23 AM

which implies a strong repulsion to the same sex

Not necessarily. I'm not at all attracted to my own gender, but I'm not 'repulsed'. I'm just not interested at all.

Anyway, look up the Kinsey Report. The conclusion was that people at the extremes of exclusivity make up about 10% of the population. The other 80% lie along a continuum between the two.
 Inicia
Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 56
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Posted: 2/27/2009 11:29:30 PM
Hey I am a breeder and ignorant... I am so happy you thought I was a dead end. I am flattered. LOL. But cannot take credit for being a dead end, except in the ignorance department. I have not suffered through the trials and tribualtions that accompany the joy of expressing non normative sexual orientation.

Breeder isn't nearly as bad as some of the terms for homosexuals or homosexuality...it is simply a comment on functionality. As I suppose the comment dead end was supposed to be...

If the point "breeder" was intended to make in its original post fell upon deaf ears that is unfortunate. IF we take offense and ignore the message then so be it... considering some men refer to women as breeders, hetereosexual offense to being called breeders is duly noted.
 desertrhino
Joined: 11/30/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2009 11:25:16 PM
I'm just boggled that "genetic" or "social" are the only two choices.

Nobody considered "hormonal" or "dietary" or "birth order" or any of a dozen other quite reasonable possible causes? That it could be a mixture of any or all of the above?

All we can say for sure is that there are homosexual individuals in almost all mammalian species examined. To assume that humans are the only special ones that are supposed to be all heterosexual seems arrogant at best. Hubris, anyone?
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 7/5/2009 1:46:37 AM

I'm just boggled that "genetic" or "social" are the only two choices.

Nobody considered "hormonal" or "dietary" or "birth order" or any of a dozen other quite reasonable possible causes? That it could be a mixture of any or all of the above?
That's a good point, although hormones in your diet have already been given as a reason for men becoming far more effeminate in this time.


All we can say for sure is that there are homosexual individuals in almost all mammalian species examined. To assume that humans are the only special ones that are supposed to be all heterosexual seems arrogant at best. Hubris, anyone?
It's already been noted many, many times. But it is hubris to think that people only noticed something about animals, that anyone in an agricultural society would have observed thousands of times.
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