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 c_deacon
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Ah Moonie.....someone dragged this up me thinks.....;)

It seems that many, if not most of what is out there, has mutated or created so many ways to buffer itself, that when one gets something now, it affects us even more. Add to that, all the "meds" that exist to remedy so many problems, that we get impatient when something hits us and takes us down.

Recently I ventured to the east coast for work and pleasure from my area of Colorado, and in the plane were three sets of children, some who were sick, and low and behold, less than a week later, I came down with a respiratory infection that about knocked me out. Found out that the Denver area had one of the worst areas for this kind of sickness and it was significantly affecting kids, especially those with asthma, to the point of many needing to go to the hospital.

One can do all they can to keep clean and healthy, but if captured in places where ventilation is subject at best, or in contact with those sick and no where to remove yourself, you are bound to pick up something that your body has never created proper protection or has not seen such a mutated form of sickness. I know that when that happens to me, as a middle aged male, it can seem like it is hitting my harder, and taking longer to get over, but I am not sure how real that is over just not getting sick that often?

Stay healthy my friend.

cd
 activemelaney
Joined: 9/8/2012
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Posted: 9/20/2014 10:13:52 AM
^^^^ llenc

Actually a virus often does have an age hierarchy. Those of a particular age have often had a variation in the past and have immunity...thus why the great Influenza of 1918 mostly impacted those under the age of 30.

Paediatric nurses would be on constant sick leave if they did not have some immunity to the infections of dozens of munchkins they are in contact with day after day.
 Dee4166
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 9/20/2014 5:55:13 PM
Of course, I eat right, no alcohol, smoking, drugs and exercise two to three times a week. Might be a reason for the healthy streak

Well...I don;t always eat right, wine for me is a STAPLE, and I was JUST giving myself a pep talk not 5 minuted ago about how I have to suck it up and start working out again....
BUT....
I haven't had a cold in SO long I don't even remember! My secret?

When I start to feel like my head is filled with cotton, I go STRAIGHT TO BED!!! I sleep as MUCH as possible and that usually takes care of it.
A long time ago, a friend of mine told me that a cold was your body's way of telling you to slow down....
I took that and ran with it and figured that if THAT was true, then all I had to do was "head it off at the pass" and save myself a lot of misery!!!
Works every time...Before you cry out that " I would LOVE to do that but I have kids, family, responsibilities, etc.
just think about how time-consuming it will be to be FORCED to take time out when you actually ARE sick!
Vitamin C is also good, but it has a cumulative effect and taking it when you start to feel sick really doesn't prevent so much as shorten the duration of your cold. Even my roommate who SWEARS by 1000mg's of vit. c/day, STILL gets colds!!!
Nothing beats SLEEP.
 LuvFishes
Joined: 7/1/2011
Msg: 75
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Posted: 11/15/2014 7:40:39 AM
Hot Sauce and Garlic are actually good choices. Plus a mega dose of Vitamin C when you get that slight not feeling well, and a little extra rest/sleep helps. There is some study that advocates Chicken Noodle Soup Broth too. All in all as we age, our recovery time is slower. Your getting some great tips and yes as a 57 yr. old I pay attention to the itchy throat, or ears that get sensitive, watery eyes as slow down and treat symptoms before getting sick. And I am exposed constantly on daily bases LOL.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 76
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Posted: 11/15/2014 9:11:43 AM
^^^^ I do the garlic, chomping down whole cloves of the stuff. Sure I shed a tear but, it scares whatever is creeping in. Plus the whiskey. And the doobs and cigs. Haven't been "sick" in awhile but, I am pretty sure when I do, I'll probably just keel over and die.

Or not.

I hate needles.
 activemelaney
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Posted: 11/15/2014 10:18:29 AM
^^^

True, if a smoker and over 50. You don't want to get even a minor cold or latent COPD may kick in a big way. Irreversible. Life over as you know it. Being afraid of needles will be the least of your worries. Never being able to clear the lungs or to ever take a deep breath again will have anyone longing for a shot of something from a needle to ease the chronic discomfort. A horrific way to spend the last 5 years of your life. Lots of needles in you at the end stages.
 activemelaney
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Posted: 11/15/2014 10:54:45 AM
Nothing you do or take is going to prevent, stop or speed up a cold virus doing its thing. You can only treat the symptoms. Not vitamin c, zinc, chicken soup or a magic spell. Not even rest is going to hinder or help if you are a healthy adult. You certainly can't judge from what you did 'last time'. Every cold virus has its own impact...severe or mild sore throat...Niagara Fall coming out the nose or zip...even out of one nostril or two. Headache or no headache, etc.

If you have a cold then do what you feel...sleep or play soccer. It's just whatever turns your crank. I personally feel better if taking a brisk walk, go dancing...as it clears the head and probably kicks in some good feeling hormones. Eat ice cream or oranges or cardboard...doesn't impact a virus an iota but might make you feel better.

Influenza is a completely different beast. Go to bed and drink fluids, eat if you can. High fever or chest discomfort that doesn't go away...see your doctor. You should feel crappy and slightly 'out of it' but but a familiar crappy and not something outside of your experience.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 79
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Posted: 11/15/2014 11:37:10 AM

True, if a smoker and over 50. You don't want to get even a minor cold or latent COPD may kick in a big way. Irreversible. Life over as you know it. Being afraid of needles will be the least of your worries. Never being able to clear the lungs or to ever take a deep breath again will have anyone longing for a shot of something from a needle to ease the chronic discomfort. A horrific way to spend the last 5 years of your life. Lots of needles in you at the end stages.


Thanks Doc!!!!!

If I actually took some in the medical industry seriously, I would have already been buried.

Twice.

You assume that all people go running into a hospital, or doc's office when the end is near. You may, or may not see, that some have decided to dismiss and find their own way to becoming worm food. Why would I or anyone else with any form of brain matter "extend" their lives if were to contain "horrific ways"?????

Still haven't got that flu shot. Or at least not the latest new and improved version.

Ebola,,,,,is it on it's way?????
 activemelaney
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Posted: 11/15/2014 2:31:33 PM
^^^

'Whatever'. Your type are a dime a dozen at every hospital in the nation every day. Then we see them hooked up to a ventilator and towing oxygen tanks for their last decade.

A same ole same ole bravado. 'Going to pull the plug and go out with a beer'. Never happens. They go out withered down to parched skin and bones desperately trying to to suck in a more lung fulls of oxygen.. Gasping for oxygen is a great equalizer in people from those drowning to those with COPD. The same instinct to try and breath kicks in.
The inability to run around a single block without gasping for air is imminent. Doubly imminent if unable to run the distance of a football field. Lung function does not recover but will deteriorate.
 somekinda_wonderful
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Posted: 11/17/2014 4:26:25 AM
Well, that escalated quickly ...

Back to the question at hand ~ about five years ago I started getting a flu shot yearly. Still get colds, but very minor symptoms and they only last a couple of days. I no longer work with kids, or have a spouse with a compromised immune system so I would like to not have the shot this year, but my understanding is that my immune system is not as strong by having the shot in the past ~ true or old wives tale?
 ohenryx
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Posted: 11/17/2014 8:19:34 AM


about five years ago I started getting a flu shot yearly. Still get colds, but very minor symptoms and they only last a couple of days. I no longer work with kids, or have a spouse with a compromised immune system so I would like to not have the shot this year, but my understanding is that my immune system is not as strong by having the shot in the past ~ true or old wives tale?


Not true. The flu shot works by building up your immune system, see quote below:




Flu vaccines cause antibodies to develop in the body about two weeks after vaccination. These antibodies provide protection against infection with the viruses that are in the vaccine. The seasonal flu vaccine protects against the influenza viruses that research indicates will be most common during the upcoming season.
 activemelaney
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Posted: 11/17/2014 9:49:59 AM
As a nurse I get the flu shot. However, a lot of my very informed colleagues do not. Not sure anyone has the definitive answer.

Some of the anti flu shot arguments are silly. However, there is legitimate debate as to benefit vs 'the unknown'. Any time we introduce a vaccine into our immune system, the effects are likely permanent and 'forever'. Some weaken but they are still there. We naturally create antibodies everyday for stuff that is assaulting our bodies but should we booster this with vaccines that do work but may (a big may) have other consequences.?

Personally, if I did not have a lot of contact with those with a compromised immune system, I would not get a flu shot. I get one because of my situation. Otherwise, I would not get one if I was a healthy adult between 25 and 60. Outside of those ages, yes. Under 25 and our immune systems are still vulnerable to some mega virus...over 60 and the risks from the flu could compromise other issues. In between...we get sick but a healthy adult will emerge fine.
 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 84
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Posted: 11/17/2014 10:08:22 AM

Personally, if I did not have a lot of contact with those with a compromised immune system, I would not get a flu shot. I get one because of my situation. Otherwise, I would not get one if I was a healthy adult between 25 and 60. Outside of those ages, yes. Under 25 and our immune systems are still vulnerable to some mega virus...over 60 and the risks from the flu could compromise other issues. In between...we get sick but a healthy adult will emerge fine.


I had my wife get a flu shot even though she is 40.

My reasoning was she has lived all her life in Thailand and have never been exposed to the types of flu we get over in the West. so likely she has less immunity. And she previously had pneumonia, better to get a flu shot, and she feels more protected.

I often get a flu shot, but then I am over 60 and I just don't like it if I do get the flu.
 activemelaney
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Posted: 11/17/2014 11:17:19 AM
Dragonbits. That is a wise choice if she has a history of respiratory issues

However, your wife would have been exposed to the same flu as we do...influenza strains arise in Asia and come to North America. It is dependent on a cycle to do with pigs, chickens, etc. Can't remember the details but quite fascinating.

Again, however, there is no definitive answer. Most things in medicine are risk/benefit analysis. Often the benefits are known but risks more of a blur.
 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
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Posted: 11/17/2014 6:27:28 PM

I would not get one if I was a healthy adult between 25 and 60..


That's me. A healthy adult between 25 and 60 with no flu shot ever.


Not true. The flu shot works by building up your immune system.


I haven't had the flu since 1981, with no flu shot ever. How much more building up can my immune system get?
 forums1
Joined: 2/14/2010
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:20:10 PM
^ I don't remember ever getting a flu shot as a kid, but it could be forgetfulness. I don't believe so though, and I've never gotten one as an adult. I rarely get the flu, maybe once a decade if that, and rarely a real cold - runny nose when I'm out in the cold shoveling snow or something, but it's gone within an hour, more just the change in temperature (warm house->cold, cold outside to warm house).
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 88
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Posted: 11/20/2014 11:32:32 AM
Last time I had the flu was 1967. And I was getting out of bed to cook/feed/wash up after a grown man, a little boy, and a baby. Stumbling back to my bed, I recall thinking: This stinks! I get *nothing* out of it (unlike being praised as a child for being the one who was good when sick). Screw this, I'm done. And I was. Never got it again. No flu shots ever. Not gonna play with what works, lol!
 hotdogshop100
Joined: 8/17/2014
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Posted: 12/7/2014 6:37:19 AM
I'd suggest a flu shot and watch where you place your hands and to not touch any mucous membranes on your body without at least a hand sanitizer treatment.
 moraima
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Posted: 12/7/2014 8:23:38 AM
I had pneumonia when I was a child, so I have had the one time only pneumonia vaccine given to seniors in Canada.

I have never had a flu of any type. It makes no sense to me to get vaccine for something that I have never had. Seems logically to me that I already have immunity to flu.

I have the smallpox titer (immunity). Smallpox has been eradicated, so it doesn't do me much good.
As far as I know there is no titer test for flu immunity, but it would be helpful if the test was available. I would guess that many older people have immunity to the flu.
 Dreamin_of_you
Joined: 8/14/2014
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Posted: 12/10/2014 7:12:42 PM
Please do not think that I am thinking badly of folks here... but six pages of talk about colds and flu in a section that is titled "Love Stuff Section"... am I the only one who wonders what is going on??? It sure is obvious that there is not a moderator reviewing postings on this site!
 BlackLady1953
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Posted: 12/23/2014 6:21:39 PM
I faithfully get my flu shot every year, and if I have flu symptoms, within 24 hours I contact my physician and get a prescription for Tamiflu...because I don't like being sick.
 DameWrite
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Posted: 12/24/2014 4:27:14 PM
1/2 cup of sauerkraut a day keeps the flu and cold away. Works for me.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:20:38 AM
Haven't had a cold or flu in so long I dont remember days of recovery. ( so many spices and herbs I eat and drink imo) esp ginger, garlic,cayenne, cinnamon, Mediterranean oregano and olive leaf ext.



Prevention is the key with a person that has no compromised immune system.

Stop touching your face is number one in prevention
Hand washing with soap and hot water.
Eating spicy herbs / foods/hot teas.
If you are compromised in some way, def talk with a physician/specialist.

Eating wasabi /horseradish will knock the hell out of a head cold/congestion, so will frying a bit of something fatty then adding a huge amount of cayenne to it, then add a bit of water to stream. GOOD LORD> close your eyes.

General chest congestion, I like the peppermint and eucalyptus rub straight undiluted on my chest.


The last flu shot I got (which is a very rare thing for me to do) I felt like crap 5/6 days and found out later it was the wrong flu shot for the season, so basically F it if I do, F it if I dont.

Everyone stay well!!
 calguy14
Joined: 8/17/2014
Msg: 95
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Posted: 12/25/2014 2:45:15 AM
Don't drink a lot over the holidays.I just about got one after a shooterfest at a Christmas party.
 ozsealady1
Joined: 6/13/2013
Msg: 96
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Posted: 12/25/2014 3:44:52 AM
I am ill right now.

Last week had a viral cold... no biggie ... the common cold.
No cure, just lots of tissues, paracetamol and lozenges.
So I soldiered on and whacko... got a secondary infection.

Am now on antibiotics.

There is something going around Sydney.

Perhaps if we all remained in sterile isolation banning kissing and breathing.

Let me think???

NOPE!!!!


Merry Christmas everyone.
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