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 m14shooter
Joined: 10/2/2009
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What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?Page 5 of 9    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)

This thread is exactly how urban legends get started. People will pass this stuff along to their friends as gospel.

Talk to your own cell phone company customer service reps before you repeat the fact that phone company employees (even if they are your friends)will track your bf or gf for you.

I talked to mine and this is what they told me; the information necessary to track anyone by their cell without that person's permission is not available to all employees. Only certain employees can access that info, and there is a system of checks and balances in place to keep the employees that can access it, honest. Everytime they log in, the time they logged in and the info accessed is recorded. The activity is constantly monitored. If an employee is found to be making unauthorized access to an account, they are questioned, and not only could they lose their jobs, but they are also in violation of some kind of federal statutes because those business are interstate. In fact, when law enforcement want to track someone by their cell, they have to get a court order.

My cell phone company is the largest in the U.S., but I suppose regulations in other countries could be different.


Bull, there are other tracking systems that the phone company does not control that you can buy. There is a case right now where A guy tracked and killed his girlfriend and the guy she was banging by her cell phone. Police also found hours of her conversations with him and others on the guys computer.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 121
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/5/2010 7:33:33 PM
iPhone has a phoney app to impress your friends by pretending you can put in their phone number to trace. It uses your GPS position (you consent), then shows position on screen ! Your friend is standing beside you there too! Duh?!?!?
 VivaciousVixen2010
Joined: 7/12/2008
Msg: 127
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Posted: 2/6/2010 1:47:08 AM
surveillance equiptment can track anyone, anywhere in every way possible.
with bugging a house, the person can listen to everything that you say
from as far as 2 miles away.

i lived it.

dump him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 theforumfiend
Joined: 10/21/2007
Msg: 131
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/6/2010 6:38:42 PM
Sure hope the OP is still checking her thread with her new profile (same username).



…one of the reasons I posted this thread not just for me ,but for people to be careful and make sure they are not being tracked.


Really? I mean, really? Then why did you write this earlier?



He knew someone that works for the phone company that's how he got the information .Yes it is illegal But I don't want to get him in trouble.


OP, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. That person deserves to be in trouble. That person signed a confidentially agreement to work for that mobile carrier. Reporting the employee would be a good thing since protecting their customers’ personal information is important to them.
 JstAnthrLonelyGirl
Joined: 7/19/2008
Msg: 132
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/6/2010 7:10:42 PM
Most GPS phones have two settings.

The first one is E911, and the only ones that can track you are 911 operators, the other setting is locaation, that constantly tracks your location and can be used in connection with a lot of free downloadable software that sends your location based on cell phone pings...

always have your phone set to e911 only!

Brutal, sounds like there are some trust issues... walk away... unless your giving him a reason to track you, like cheating or being unfaithful or lying about something (which still isn't really valid reason) he doesn't really have any right.

Good luck

XO
 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 134
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What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 8:25:06 AM
crazy obsessed stalker comes to mind, not to say anything about respect and trust, there are a lot of normal men out there, maybe you should find one
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 136
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Posted: 2/7/2010 10:07:25 AM
OP - you're gone now, but let's hope you figured out that he was fawking with you and you fell for it! There has been a lot of speculation about who and how calls/locations are tracked, but it is infeasible that your BF would have access!
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 140
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Posted: 2/7/2010 11:07:43 AM

Not unfeasible...very real.
How did your quote from my post spell it UNfeasible? Oh, well.
Bluetooth eavesdropping is only effective within range.
GPS tracking services are not applicable to third-party contracts.
Unless the OPie's BF is paying for her phone, she would receive/see a bill for any tracking services associated with her account. The website you listed from the UK requires permission from participants to be party to "social" tracking.
I still think he set her up!

P.S. There are tracking technologies that work based on planting a device on someone's car, but he claimed to be monitoring her whereabouts through phone. Of course, he could be a bullsh!tter AND a liar!


If the 'tracker' has access for even a few minutes to the 'trackee's' phone there will be zero privacy...
This is only possible in relatively close proximity. He could NOT use such technology to monitor her location miles away.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 142
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Posted: 2/7/2010 2:28:18 PM
I don't know why you are "arguing" with me, SS. You say

I'm not saying you walk into Radio Shack with a 20 dollar bill and get this technology...but it is available and used.

and what I said was

it is infeasible that your BF would have access!

What, exactly, are you contending?

I STILL say he was fawkin' with her!!! (secret listening/GPS bam bam)

here is a link from 2006 that reports on remote listening of conversations occurring in proximity to a remotely activated cell phone bug. Still some debate as to whether bug is in form of hardware or software, and the FBI isn't talking!

Still not sure what this has to do with BF tracing LOCATION of OPie using her cell phone or practicability of BF's ability to implement!

The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.


http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-150467.html
 msdemeanor70
Joined: 10/11/2009
Msg: 143
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Posted: 2/7/2010 2:32:02 PM
I know Sprint has this capability. It is $5 a month and not hard to set up . I'm guessing the other major providers have it as well. If you can get directions on your phone, you can be tracked by GPS. They market it as a way to keep an eye on your teenager. Granted, the person is texted to let them know they are being tracked, but how many of us just automatically delete what we think is junk mail?
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 145
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Posted: 2/7/2010 2:58:08 PM

I'm not arguing. I am trying to let you know you're wrong about what technology is available today for tracking, recording and monitoring peoples activities through their cell phone. You say it's unfeasible for a SO to have access to the other persons phone...I am saying it is feasible
Good gawd, I seem to be running into people who know better than I, what I am saying. 1) Where did I state my beliefs about the capability of technology? 2) Why are we sidetracking to the topics of recording, etc.? 3) Did I understand the OP incorrectly? I thought her BF told her he knew where she had physically gone based on her cell phone!

It is highly unlikely and, IMO, impracticable (infeasible) that he would have access to the technology and its implementation that would allow HIM to succeed at such an endeavor. If, indeed, he had the resouces and/or affiliation by which he was afforded the means to actually track her physical location (OR for that matter, monitor her conversations and/or activities) he would be a fool and likely in violation of the agreement on which his security clearance is based to reveal the methodology.

I still say he was fawking with her!!
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 147
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Posted: 2/7/2010 6:41:14 PM

wrong about what technology is available today for tracking, recording and monitoring peoples activities through their cell phone. You say it's unfeasible for a SO to have access to the other persons phone...I am saying it is feasible


I just want to second you on this. There are several options for installing spyware on a phone that will allow you to do all kinds of nasty tracking. In order to protect yourself

1. NEVER allow anyone else to use your phone. It doesn't take that long to download and install the software.

2. Do a simple google search on spy phone. The companies who offer this service do so in plain sight.

3. Consider putting a password on your phone. That is a royal pain when you use it. An alternative might be to simply activate the password when you are in a position where your significant other can access your phone.

Sorry Wally, but Sonoran Swimmer is right on the mark with the capabilities of the technology. As far as it showing up on the target's bill, it doesn't. The spy service handles all of that for a hefty fee to them. The target has no indication they are being monitored.

There are times when I have some sensitive discussions with colleagues. In those cases, we all pop out our batteries due to the possibility of eavesdropping. However, that may not be enough as a previous poster mentioned that some phone models have a backup battery capability. Oh well, I guess it's mini farady cages now (yes they do make them)

Here is an excerpt from the website of one of these services.



ALL-in-ONE Features Summary

Spy Phone – Listen in to the surrounding sounds and conversations around the TP
Sms Interceptor – Receive duplicate copies of all incoming/outgoing text messages
Text Alert – Receive notifications when TP connects to an incoming/outgoing call
Call Through – Listen to both sides of TP and RP conversations
Boot/SIM – Receive notifications when TP changes SIM or turns phone ON
Location Info – Receive location info of TP to nearest phone mast
Reboot – Will refresh software and restart to eliminate problems
Status Report – Receive notifications of the software operating status
PHONE DEAD (listen to surroundings when the TP is turned off) – Coming soon (Free upgrade)
SPY REC (Record surrounding of handset) - Coming soon (Free upgrade)
SPY CALL (Record incoming/outgoing calls) - Coming soon (Free upgrade)


Note the Phone Dead - you can still listen in even when the phone is off.

BTW - the same thing applies to keyloggers on computers. I have found a couple on client machines. To protect against that, make sure that you only allow access to your Windows XP machines through a limited user account.

One other thing. Before anyone does this consider that you will most likely be breaking federal and state law at a felony level even if you put this on your kid's phones. You don't want to spend the next 10 years with a huge, hairy, evil, horny cellmate.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 148
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 6:54:31 PM

P.S. You guys really know your stuff! Wow! How does it relate to the premise of the opening post, exactly? How would he know her exact physical location (as claimed) even IF he could locate the nearest cell mast to her phone at a given time? Kindly read my previous post at 187.
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 149
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 7:34:03 PM
I'm not up on all the aspects of tracking. My son noticed something weird with the GPS on our samsung phones. If our wireless access is turned off, the CEP (Circular error) is something like 2 thousand feet. If we turn the wireless on but don't connect to a wireless access point, the GPS accuracy is about 250 feet. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Anyway, it appears that your location is a combination of the nearest mast (and possible triangulation with two or more masts.) and satellite GPS signals. I also tend to think that there might be something going on if you are connected to a wireless because the IP of the wireless would be available and that ***might** lead to a specific geographic location

There was a story a while back where a guy watched a woman take a picture at a park in San Francisco. 2 days later he had a complete profile on her. She took the pic with one of the latest phones. He guessed that she would upload some of the pics which would be geocoded. He found the pics on flickr or some similar service. Once he had that info, he was able to build a whole profile on her.

Fortunately for her, he was not a creepy stalker but rather a writer in one of the tech mags. He published the story but did so in a way that did not compromise her.

Off track here but about 25 years ago when I was real serious in Tae Kwon Do, we had a John Bircher training with us. He would look us in the eye and say "THEY used to only be able to listen to you through your radio. Now THEY can SEE you through your TV".. Every time he did that I thought "Great, we are teaching this guy how to kill with a single kick, what can go wrong here??" Anyway, he wouldn't be too far off the mark today. The feds weren't too happy a while back when they had to admit in court that they were able to listen in via Onstar to bust a mob boss. Gotta run, my coffee pot appears to be listening in.....
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 150
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Posted: 2/7/2010 7:40:29 PM
Oh, one more thing about the geocoding of phone pics. About 2 weeks ago, there was a flurry on some blogs.

Someone had posted a pic of a couple of lines of coke on their desk with the question of "Should I do these or not? I'm really bored today". I forget the site where he posted the pic. Anyway, the original pic was posted with the geocode data. Someone ran the Lat/long and guess where the location pointed to??






1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Now, there are two possibilities here. (1) Someone went to great legnths to tamper with the GPS geocoding of the pic or (2) someone in the west wing is doing coke on company time...

The takeway here is that it would be possible for someone to figure out where you were if you sent a pic from certain phones in that the geocoding data would be in the pic. "Hi Honey, here is me at work" when the geocoding puts you in the lobby of the Happy endings massage parlor.
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 155
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Posted: 2/8/2010 5:44:56 PM
Eyeofthecamera.

WOW,, that was an excellent and informative post - Thanks

Also, one other thing to consider.. If you have something like EZpass, that provides a pretty good record of your comings and goings if you use toll roads. There was a local case recently where a guy got nailed in a divorce proceeding for boinking his gf. The expass records became part of the proceedings and showed he was on the wrong (or right) side of the river.

One nasty thought. If it ever hit the fan, grab your EzPass and stick in on the trailer of a tractor trailer. People will be looking for you in iowa while you are in Maine. :)

Gotta run- I'm going to read up on Faraday cages. ...
 TheReason_
Joined: 5/16/2009
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Posted: 2/9/2010 4:59:13 PM
There are apps for iPhone, which let you broadcast your position, so others can find you.
 Mojorising137
Joined: 9/5/2013
Msg: 162
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Posted: 10/12/2013 3:37:13 AM
I'm out of a 8 year relationship but if she did put a tracking device on my phone is there anyway or an app to show you this , just certain things she has said makes me think how the hell did you know that ??? makes me think is she tracking me, I've got nothing to hide so I'm not bothered but just surprised at how she knows certain things, weird that's all?? Any help would be great cheers mojo
 Hamilton12345
Joined: 3/29/2012
Msg: 163
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Posted: 10/12/2013 7:52:32 AM

I'm out of a 8 year relationship but if she did put a tracking device on my phone is there anyway or an app to show you this , just certain things she has said makes me think how the hell did you know that ??? makes me think is she tracking me, I've got nothing to hide so I'm not bothered but just surprised at how she knows certain things, weird that's all?? Any help would be great cheers mojo


Do you post to Facebook or any other social media from your phone? If so, you need to change the settings on the phone or it posts where you were when you created the post.

I was chatting on FB with my niece while she and her husband were on there way to my place and I kept telling her what town she was in and it was driving her nuts that I could tell where she was the whole trip. Needless to say, when she got here, they turned the tracking off on her phone.

Beyond that, I would say that it is not likely that she put a tracking device on your phone, but if you are worried have your provider walk you through resetting your phone to the factory settings.
 Archangel_07
Joined: 6/21/2010
Msg: 164
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Posted: 10/12/2013 7:59:49 AM
Big time control freak. Yes there are apps on phone that can track you down.
 sigungq
Joined: 1/4/2013
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Posted: 10/12/2013 2:14:29 PM

swtsxyme wrote:
The reason for this thread is that I just found out that my boyfriend has been tracking my location He told me where I was the other day and how he knew by tracking me, I felt so violated not because I have anything to hide but that's over board for me. To think what else is being tracked, I don't even want to say certain things on the phone.what would you do if this was done to you?


Welcome to the club, the NSA does it to everyone.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 166
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Posted: 10/12/2013 2:35:10 PM
hope to use your cellphone to make a 9-1-1 call? They won't be able to find the location of your emergency without GPS (they can try to triangulate you by the cellphone towers, but that takes time to end up with just a guess). so if you disable any tracking device, be sure to tell your loved ones so when they try to use it to save your life, they can re-establish tracking, or you'll get the "benefit" of your own paranoia.

I grew up without the electronic leash. didn't leave the house without telling my parents when I'd be home, and not wearing a device called a wrist watch, which told me exactly what time I better stop doing what I was doing and head home. Cellphones make it easy for people to be rude and call at the last minute to see if I'm free, rather than plan ahead and call and make plans (take my word for it, when people can't call you to cancel--they tend not to cancel so much). the best concert in history was Woodstock...hippies figured out they should be there, found the place, and had no benefit of cellphone, twitter, Internet to help them locate the time and place. what equivalent events have occured in the time of cellphone? :o lol And let's not even discuss bosses being able to reach you on the weekend...

cellphones are neat toys taken from Star Trek's idea of the communicator, and they are here to stay. But its funny how if you make life simple, it tends to have less stress in it--which gives you more time for the real things in life.
 leanco
Joined: 12/7/2006
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Posted: 10/13/2013 1:54:21 AM

I grew up without the electronic leash. didn't leave the house without telling my parents when I'd be home, and not wearing a device called a wrist watch, which told me exactly what time I better stop doing what I was doing and head home. Cellphones make it easy for people to be rude and call at the last minute to see if I'm free, rather than plan ahead and call and make plans (take my word for it, when people can't call you to cancel--they tend not to cancel so much).

Very much agree. I have never had a reason to carry a cell phone, I don't have one and I doubt I ever will have one. Cell phones make multi-tasking easier but unfortunately, most people just aren't very good at multitasking. What ends up being then, is that cell phones have become the catch-all remedy to running full steam ahead into chaos.

Without the "convenience" of cell phones, I think people will become better planners.
 Theme_Pack
Joined: 5/3/2013
Msg: 168
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Posted: 10/13/2013 5:02:51 AM
The technology is out there to block cell phone signals.....not sure if it will ever become mainstream....
Now if a gf was tracking me and I found out about it....boy would I have fun with that... you know you could take your cell to a Cemetery and leave it there!!!!
 KratosSpawn
Joined: 10/24/2010
Msg: 169
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Posted: 10/13/2013 5:45:27 AM
Get some police involved. That sort of stocking behavior is sick and should be dealt with via legal action.
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