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 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 145
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?Page 7 of 9    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)

I'm not arguing. I am trying to let you know you're wrong about what technology is available today for tracking, recording and monitoring peoples activities through their cell phone. You say it's unfeasible for a SO to have access to the other persons phone...I am saying it is feasible
Good gawd, I seem to be running into people who know better than I, what I am saying. 1) Where did I state my beliefs about the capability of technology? 2) Why are we sidetracking to the topics of recording, etc.? 3) Did I understand the OP incorrectly? I thought her BF told her he knew where she had physically gone based on her cell phone!

It is highly unlikely and, IMO, impracticable (infeasible) that he would have access to the technology and its implementation that would allow HIM to succeed at such an endeavor. If, indeed, he had the resouces and/or affiliation by which he was afforded the means to actually track her physical location (OR for that matter, monitor her conversations and/or activities) he would be a fool and likely in violation of the agreement on which his security clearance is based to reveal the methodology.

I still say he was fawking with her!!
 50_50_This_Way_Out
Joined: 2/3/2009
Msg: 146
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 3:20:17 PM
He sounds like a textbook control freak, and not a very well skilled one at that:

First, he lost any defense for himself when he actually called you to tell you he knew where you were. Sounds like something from a movie on the LifeTime Movie Network.

Second of all, any smart person or person who at least intended on KEEPING his girlfriend, would have never said anything in the first place.
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 147
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 6:41:14 PM

wrong about what technology is available today for tracking, recording and monitoring peoples activities through their cell phone. You say it's unfeasible for a SO to have access to the other persons phone...I am saying it is feasible


I just want to second you on this. There are several options for installing spyware on a phone that will allow you to do all kinds of nasty tracking. In order to protect yourself

1. NEVER allow anyone else to use your phone. It doesn't take that long to download and install the software.

2. Do a simple google search on spy phone. The companies who offer this service do so in plain sight.

3. Consider putting a password on your phone. That is a royal pain when you use it. An alternative might be to simply activate the password when you are in a position where your significant other can access your phone.

Sorry Wally, but Sonoran Swimmer is right on the mark with the capabilities of the technology. As far as it showing up on the target's bill, it doesn't. The spy service handles all of that for a hefty fee to them. The target has no indication they are being monitored.

There are times when I have some sensitive discussions with colleagues. In those cases, we all pop out our batteries due to the possibility of eavesdropping. However, that may not be enough as a previous poster mentioned that some phone models have a backup battery capability. Oh well, I guess it's mini farady cages now (yes they do make them)

Here is an excerpt from the website of one of these services.



ALL-in-ONE Features Summary

Spy Phone – Listen in to the surrounding sounds and conversations around the TP
Sms Interceptor – Receive duplicate copies of all incoming/outgoing text messages
Text Alert – Receive notifications when TP connects to an incoming/outgoing call
Call Through – Listen to both sides of TP and RP conversations
Boot/SIM – Receive notifications when TP changes SIM or turns phone ON
Location Info – Receive location info of TP to nearest phone mast
Reboot – Will refresh software and restart to eliminate problems
Status Report – Receive notifications of the software operating status
PHONE DEAD (listen to surroundings when the TP is turned off) – Coming soon (Free upgrade)
SPY REC (Record surrounding of handset) - Coming soon (Free upgrade)
SPY CALL (Record incoming/outgoing calls) - Coming soon (Free upgrade)


Note the Phone Dead - you can still listen in even when the phone is off.

BTW - the same thing applies to keyloggers on computers. I have found a couple on client machines. To protect against that, make sure that you only allow access to your Windows XP machines through a limited user account.

One other thing. Before anyone does this consider that you will most likely be breaking federal and state law at a felony level even if you put this on your kid's phones. You don't want to spend the next 10 years with a huge, hairy, evil, horny cellmate.
 GotAHubCapDiamondStarHalo
Joined: 10/25/2009
Msg: 148
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 6:54:31 PM

P.S. You guys really know your stuff! Wow! How does it relate to the premise of the opening post, exactly? How would he know her exact physical location (as claimed) even IF he could locate the nearest cell mast to her phone at a given time? Kindly read my previous post at 187.
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 149
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 7:34:03 PM
I'm not up on all the aspects of tracking. My son noticed something weird with the GPS on our samsung phones. If our wireless access is turned off, the CEP (Circular error) is something like 2 thousand feet. If we turn the wireless on but don't connect to a wireless access point, the GPS accuracy is about 250 feet. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Anyway, it appears that your location is a combination of the nearest mast (and possible triangulation with two or more masts.) and satellite GPS signals. I also tend to think that there might be something going on if you are connected to a wireless because the IP of the wireless would be available and that ***might** lead to a specific geographic location

There was a story a while back where a guy watched a woman take a picture at a park in San Francisco. 2 days later he had a complete profile on her. She took the pic with one of the latest phones. He guessed that she would upload some of the pics which would be geocoded. He found the pics on flickr or some similar service. Once he had that info, he was able to build a whole profile on her.

Fortunately for her, he was not a creepy stalker but rather a writer in one of the tech mags. He published the story but did so in a way that did not compromise her.

Off track here but about 25 years ago when I was real serious in Tae Kwon Do, we had a John Bircher training with us. He would look us in the eye and say "THEY used to only be able to listen to you through your radio. Now THEY can SEE you through your TV".. Every time he did that I thought "Great, we are teaching this guy how to kill with a single kick, what can go wrong here??" Anyway, he wouldn't be too far off the mark today. The feds weren't too happy a while back when they had to admit in court that they were able to listen in via Onstar to bust a mob boss. Gotta run, my coffee pot appears to be listening in.....
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 150
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/7/2010 7:40:29 PM
Oh, one more thing about the geocoding of phone pics. About 2 weeks ago, there was a flurry on some blogs.

Someone had posted a pic of a couple of lines of coke on their desk with the question of "Should I do these or not? I'm really bored today". I forget the site where he posted the pic. Anyway, the original pic was posted with the geocode data. Someone ran the Lat/long and guess where the location pointed to??






1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Now, there are two possibilities here. (1) Someone went to great legnths to tamper with the GPS geocoding of the pic or (2) someone in the west wing is doing coke on company time...

The takeway here is that it would be possible for someone to figure out where you were if you sent a pic from certain phones in that the geocoding data would be in the pic. "Hi Honey, here is me at work" when the geocoding puts you in the lobby of the Happy endings massage parlor.
 Juste moi Danielle
Joined: 7/8/2009
Msg: 151
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 8:25:55 AM
Give it up Beaver ... some people may know (or think they know) a lot of stuff but are apparently unable to understand and comprehend the written word...gawd...anyway, I'm safe for now, I don't have a cell, my TV is unplugged, oh gawd, my radio is on 24/7 but I have this: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

 BlueTaurus
Joined: 10/3/2009
Msg: 152
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 12:31:59 PM
I understand completely!!!

My ex was tracking me by my cell phone he bought me because mine broke and it was a "gift". He also was looking at my laptop from his office an hour away. This is what I had to do:
Completely wipe out your computer and reboot it. Call your cell phone carrier and get passwords and such changed ASAP! Because I didn't know this, but you can get on the internet and get into your cell and see text messages. I was horrified and after I took care of everything, I feel much better. Its an awful feeling to feel stalked. I hope I have helped you.
 EmotionallyDetached
Joined: 10/28/2009
Msg: 153
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 12:35:44 PM
Do like Naomi Campbell and break the phone over his head.
 himynameisSarah
Joined: 5/27/2009
Msg: 154
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 12:40:52 PM
I was on a first date with a guy, and didn't know how to get to the place we were going. I called him to tell him I was running late... next thing I know he's tracking me. I don't know what they have, but there is some little device that does that. My phone didn't have GPS that I was aware of, but who knows.

Needless to say he creeped me out and I never saw him anymore. Tracking is weird. I'm a girl, not an endangered porpoise.
 chrisofpa
Joined: 8/28/2009
Msg: 155
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 5:44:56 PM
Eyeofthecamera.

WOW,, that was an excellent and informative post - Thanks

Also, one other thing to consider.. If you have something like EZpass, that provides a pretty good record of your comings and goings if you use toll roads. There was a local case recently where a guy got nailed in a divorce proceeding for boinking his gf. The expass records became part of the proceedings and showed he was on the wrong (or right) side of the river.

One nasty thought. If it ever hit the fan, grab your EzPass and stick in on the trailer of a tractor trailer. People will be looking for you in iowa while you are in Maine. :)

Gotta run- I'm going to read up on Faraday cages. ...
 Pondering the Circle.....
Joined: 1/18/2010
Msg: 156
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 5:53:36 PM

How does it relate to the premise of the opening post, exactly?

What ChrisofPA and I say is relevant in that it supports the supposition that such tracking is possible.
 himynameisSarah
Joined: 5/27/2009
Msg: 157
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 6:08:46 PM
Holy Shit there's a lot of geeks on the net...
 Pondering the Circle.....
Joined: 1/18/2010
Msg: 158
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/8/2010 6:29:34 PM

Holy Shit there's a lot of geeks on the net...

Sarah makes one more...
Don't blame the geeks for being smart, and I won't blame the idiots for being stupid.
 TheReason_
Joined: 5/16/2009
Msg: 159
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Posted: 2/9/2010 4:59:13 PM
There are apps for iPhone, which let you broadcast your position, so others can find you.
 walking the pooch
Joined: 10/31/2009
Msg: 160
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/9/2010 6:14:53 PM
Women need to be kept track of. You just never know who else they are seeing!
 ur-call
Joined: 2/5/2010
Msg: 161
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 2/11/2010 12:40:17 AM
wait a minute...could your actions cause his behavior? I'm asking? You didnt say, do you lie to him? Have you cheated, previously? Is this all him or do you tell us and HIM "half truths?" just wondering
 Mojorising137
Joined: 9/5/2013
Msg: 162
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 10/12/2013 3:37:13 AM
I'm out of a 8 year relationship but if she did put a tracking device on my phone is there anyway or an app to show you this , just certain things she has said makes me think how the hell did you know that ??? makes me think is she tracking me, I've got nothing to hide so I'm not bothered but just surprised at how she knows certain things, weird that's all?? Any help would be great cheers mojo
 Hamilton12345
Joined: 3/29/2012
Msg: 163
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 10/12/2013 7:52:32 AM

I'm out of a 8 year relationship but if she did put a tracking device on my phone is there anyway or an app to show you this , just certain things she has said makes me think how the hell did you know that ??? makes me think is she tracking me, I've got nothing to hide so I'm not bothered but just surprised at how she knows certain things, weird that's all?? Any help would be great cheers mojo


Do you post to Facebook or any other social media from your phone? If so, you need to change the settings on the phone or it posts where you were when you created the post.

I was chatting on FB with my niece while she and her husband were on there way to my place and I kept telling her what town she was in and it was driving her nuts that I could tell where she was the whole trip. Needless to say, when she got here, they turned the tracking off on her phone.

Beyond that, I would say that it is not likely that she put a tracking device on your phone, but if you are worried have your provider walk you through resetting your phone to the factory settings.
 Archangel_07
Joined: 6/21/2010
Msg: 164
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 10/12/2013 7:59:49 AM
Big time control freak. Yes there are apps on phone that can track you down.
 sigungq
Joined: 1/4/2013
Msg: 165
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Posted: 10/12/2013 2:14:29 PM

swtsxyme wrote:
The reason for this thread is that I just found out that my boyfriend has been tracking my location He told me where I was the other day and how he knew by tracking me, I felt so violated not because I have anything to hide but that's over board for me. To think what else is being tracked, I don't even want to say certain things on the phone.what would you do if this was done to you?


Welcome to the club, the NSA does it to everyone.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 166
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 10/12/2013 2:35:10 PM
hope to use your cellphone to make a 9-1-1 call? They won't be able to find the location of your emergency without GPS (they can try to triangulate you by the cellphone towers, but that takes time to end up with just a guess). so if you disable any tracking device, be sure to tell your loved ones so when they try to use it to save your life, they can re-establish tracking, or you'll get the "benefit" of your own paranoia.

I grew up without the electronic leash. didn't leave the house without telling my parents when I'd be home, and not wearing a device called a wrist watch, which told me exactly what time I better stop doing what I was doing and head home. Cellphones make it easy for people to be rude and call at the last minute to see if I'm free, rather than plan ahead and call and make plans (take my word for it, when people can't call you to cancel--they tend not to cancel so much). the best concert in history was Woodstock...hippies figured out they should be there, found the place, and had no benefit of cellphone, twitter, Internet to help them locate the time and place. what equivalent events have occured in the time of cellphone? :o lol And let's not even discuss bosses being able to reach you on the weekend...

cellphones are neat toys taken from Star Trek's idea of the communicator, and they are here to stay. But its funny how if you make life simple, it tends to have less stress in it--which gives you more time for the real things in life.
 leanco
Joined: 12/7/2006
Msg: 167
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Posted: 10/13/2013 1:54:21 AM

I grew up without the electronic leash. didn't leave the house without telling my parents when I'd be home, and not wearing a device called a wrist watch, which told me exactly what time I better stop doing what I was doing and head home. Cellphones make it easy for people to be rude and call at the last minute to see if I'm free, rather than plan ahead and call and make plans (take my word for it, when people can't call you to cancel--they tend not to cancel so much).

Very much agree. I have never had a reason to carry a cell phone, I don't have one and I doubt I ever will have one. Cell phones make multi-tasking easier but unfortunately, most people just aren't very good at multitasking. What ends up being then, is that cell phones have become the catch-all remedy to running full steam ahead into chaos.

Without the "convenience" of cell phones, I think people will become better planners.
 Theme_Pack
Joined: 5/3/2013
Msg: 168
What if you were being tracked by your cell phone?
Posted: 10/13/2013 5:02:51 AM
The technology is out there to block cell phone signals.....not sure if it will ever become mainstream....
Now if a gf was tracking me and I found out about it....boy would I have fun with that... you know you could take your cell to a Cemetery and leave it there!!!!
 KratosSpawn
Joined: 10/24/2010
Msg: 169
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Posted: 10/13/2013 5:45:27 AM
Get some police involved. That sort of stocking behavior is sick and should be dealt with via legal action.
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