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 soba
Joined: 7/25/2004
Msg: 2
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HELL ?Page 4 of 5    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
"References to hades (hell) may be attributed to the destruction of bodies, so that there are NO remains except for dust. The Egyptians tried hard to have their bodies preserved in the expectation of revival here on earth. they went to great lengths to ensure their bodies were there for their resurrection.
Hades was a garbage dump (north of Jerusalem I believe) where the corpses of criminals and the condemned were covered with sulphur and brimstone and burned with the rest of the trash, thereby destroying the body to a point where it could never be "resurrected". To be dumped into "Hades" was not a good thing back then. I can imagine parents telling their kids to "be good or you will wind up in Hades", along with all the bad people!"

Interesting, i've never heard that reference before about the garbage dump.
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 8
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Posted: 10/7/2004 8:33:43 PM
First of all very well said jimi!!!

FAITH is all u need, I know the bible is the lords way and should be everybodys way. I am pretty ignorant when it comes to it as well, but I do know that I have faith, and that comes from nobody but the lord. So I put faith in the lord that I will be taught the correct way!!!

FAITH answers all of ur questions and I would be curiiuos as to ur answers to ur own questions!!!
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 13
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:47:50 AM
"Just getting tired of people preaching to the world about things they know very little about." Well, if they knew a lot about it, why would they need you to 'preach' them about things? Maybe they are getting tired listening to you preach?

I'm tired of people misleading people with belief systems and religions. Oooh! A self-elected Authority that is in the know about Religions - Maybe a God, albeit in military uniform above Gods? Picture-Perfect example 18 Years getting one's head deeper & deeper stuck in the sand.

Now this should lighten things up just a touch, huh?...lol
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 15
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Posted: 10/8/2004 6:45:30 AM
...And yet another goodie as the result of 18 years of research & study by "silverthorn's Fabulous Worlds": "I'm one of the few rational people I know."

Where do I bow?......lmao...just all a little too hilarious.
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 17
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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:58:50 PM
Silver: this post was not addressed to you so please don't get personal about it. Of course, nothing personal taken, nor did I give that impression anywhere. This is a forum, where anyone can respond/reply back to anyone's post.

You are judging me without questioning me = Bolony. Figment of your imagination.

giving you my credentials Who cares about your or anyone else's credentials. Means absolutely squat. This doesn't make you god, nor give you the right to adjucate, speak or condescendingly generalize on behalf of what other people do or do not know about religion.
Are you that arrogantly "Godly" where you can claim/adjucate people misleading other people with belief systems and religions? Are you that "All-knowing" due to your "credentials" that you feel completely at liberty to tell them what they know and what they don't know?

You are a perfect example of opinionated ignorance in action Another completely baseless call from a "Higher Power" above, for anyone who even thinks they can question your condescending arrogance.

brings questions to the table, answer questions, or even present yourself in a position of wisdom. I guess you get the point? I am not interested debating anything, except point out your heightened Self-centered sense of Authority, feeling completely at ease telling others who "They" are, because after all you have degrees/credentials in respect to Fairy Tales? There is nothing much of any value you have presented so far to discuss, except what I have written here, that being, that you are completely full of yourself.

Are you going to attack my character or discuss the issue? Never did either! You have little in the way of any actual issues, so far nothing but self-adjucated Smoke & Mirrors or irrelevant or useless information. I am not interested discussing Fairy Tales that cannot be substantiated.

I'm tired of hearing people tell me things that are second hand and not very factual. Who cares? You are no better, (although you think you are an authority making such judgements upon other people) since you have presented nothing other than of illogical rederick.

What truth are you bringing to this thread? Although the thread is about "Hell", and not "truth", Truth can be substantiated & proven, and not to be confused with your non-sense. There is no requirement to bring any truth to this thread, nor is the thread about truth. It's about Religion, whether for or against. Anyone may present their views here. Since its far too time-consuming, nor am I particularly inclined nor interested in the first place, I don't care to endlessly address and counter-refute every bit of irrationality that you post here.

Next thing you'll be telling everyone what they should believe, since you have credentials and self-assumed Authority to do so.
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 19
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Posted: 10/8/2004 4:47:55 PM
Silver: I'm sorry you have issues about people who have taken the time to find the truth and attempt to help people find it for themselves. Silver, do you just make these things up as you go along, or something you found on the way while pulling your head out of the sand?

You are obsessively telling me and others WHO we are, how dumb or ignorant we supposedly are in respect to religions under your "Godly Eyes". None of this amounts to having issues with anyone finding whatever they like. Your condescending assessments of people also does not amount to helping them. I couldn't care less how much time you took to find whatever you were looking for. It doesn't impress me even in the very least. Should you however decide to get off your self-absorbed high horse, it might just raise some eyebrows for the better. And no, I do not care what you say, as I mentioned in a previous message, I am not here to discuss anything with you, nor receive your self-adjucated assessments as to who you think I am, what I can or cannot do, nor what your limited concepts of my powers may or may not be.

You are the person acting as if you are some authority on who I am and what I was saying. Total Crap again! Ha! Are you a parrot feeding me back what I had previously said to you? Do you not have any shred of insight?

State you opinions, but stop bitching being tired about those "ignorant" people you are supposedly wanting to help. And before you do, it might be a good idea you ask if they even want your help in the first place!
HELL ?
Posted: 10/8/2004 5:58:24 PM
how come you can say b*tching but not jackass on here?????
HELL ?
Posted: 10/8/2004 5:59:19 PM
now they changed it why can you say b*tching ticket to ride???


[You can use and say any word you want. There is no restriction other than the filters on site that replace extremely profane terms, or portions thereof with ****./Ticket]
HELL ?
Posted: 10/9/2004 7:15:17 PM
YES YOU PROBABLEY COULD.....SILVER BUT AS SCRIPTURE SAYS DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME TALKING ABOUT VAIN AND LOFTLY THINGS...MEANING DONT TRY TO GUESS OR PHILOSOPHI ABOUT ALL OF THIS ....THE TOUNG IS A FIRE AND WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY WORD WE THINK AND SPEAK....
 jeliarra
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 29
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Posted: 10/10/2004 12:50:38 PM
Ok I am far from a bible teacher, but I'll throw my understanding out there. Hell, from my understanding is death of the soul/spirit. It means simply that you are no more period. I try not to get into this for it gets deep but I'll give it a shot. While we are on this earth as humans we are 2 people, flesh man and spiritial man. We all know that the flesh man is going to die, and the death of the flesh man means to be present with the Lord. Which means you are in heaven until judgment. This does not mean your in paradise (that is if you have fallen short). Revelation will tell you that even satan is in heaven right now, bound and held by the archangel Michael. I seriously doubt that satan is in a "happy" place within heaven. Rev 12:7 - 9 So from my understanding there is a gulf in heaven, those that have over come are with God and those that have fallen short are on the other side of the gulf within heaven a waiting judgment. Hell is at the end of judgment, those that have been sentenced to hell are no more, no one will even remember them, they are no more. God Himself destroys them, satan and his followers for good. Amen! and Good riddens!
 jeliarra
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 35
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:45:00 PM
Not a theroy jimi =) and would you GET OUT of my head! gezzz lol =p
 jeliarra
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 40
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Posted: 10/11/2004 4:21:22 AM
Ah yes, the spirit of stupor. They do not know it has been placed upon them and has been placed upon them for their own protection.

What I don't get is why someone that does not believe would waste his time even talking upon it? Is it just to annoy others that do? Or could it be a unconscious need to believe?

 jeliarra
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 42
HELL ?
Posted: 10/11/2004 9:26:40 AM
All I can say is oh my goodness. I'll keep my pearls and let the swine head off to where ever they wish to go=)
HELL ?
Posted: 10/11/2004 2:15:30 PM
well all i know is that god gave me a word for native friends of mine ....and that is that as the native culture comes into relationship with the lord jesus christ they will heal the land and bring us back to eden(again my spellin sux) open the door to the unseen realm where heaven touches earth and bring us into closer relationships with god....the boy i spoke that word to wouldnt addmit that he had accepted jesus as a child though his eyes said it all(i can see the jesus in peoples eyes) untill i told him about the team from the ntw and finaly he addmited it ...and they had gone to the church he attended as a child..i find that abit more than coinsadance..it not religon but relationship that god is seeking and what he is all about...
i do it cause most people assume if there was a higher spirit it would automatically be god or jesus or whoever.. like if i change my beliefs, and become religous it means im automatocally christian or something.. even though most
of my intrest is in Paganism, im also native american, i may become just spiritual with nature.. course then again you would still think im wrong cause your still better then me with your d*mn religon
and he wants us to worship the source of creation(the creator) not the refection(the creation)...its like bowing down and worshiping a golden cow when we worship the earth...
HELL ?
Posted: 10/11/2004 4:56:03 PM
yet you you self are not removing the log from you own eye before trying to take the speck out of your brothers....
anyone here a Prophet, Messiah, Divine Messenger, or Divine Entity? I will ask again, because you all seem to believe that you have the answers and are unwilling to admit your affectations. (pretending you know more than you do) You also refuse to answer the real question I will keep asking until you either acknowledge truth or you acknowledge your divine connection? I have yet to hear a question that holds truth, divinity or the wisdom that goes with it. If you do not know something is it wise to immediately disagree? I have yet to hear the Divine Voice of God talking to me in these posts...
you ask questions yet dont want to hear...that your choice but dont cut down outhers in the process...
 SenileGranny
Joined: 7/3/2004
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HELL ?
Posted: 10/15/2004 7:46:55 PM
I firmly believe that NONE of us knows ''the truth''...each of us knows some of it...each of us has little pieces of 'the whole'...like the pieces of a very difficult puzzle.
 freemind
Joined: 10/16/2004
Msg: 85
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Posted: 10/25/2004 3:42:00 PM
Wow! It took me almost a half hour to read this thread. Can't you Christians just get along? From my understanding. Hell is word that came from Hades which is Hebrew for burning grave. Hades is the name of the Greek god of the Underworld. Hell is in the New Testament but not the Old Testament or Dead Sea Scrolls.

Mcky: Jehovah's believe that 144,000 will inherit the Earth and Heaven will be on Earth -New World Order.

I'm not a Christian, Jehovah ,Mormon (oh yeah, Mormons believe in the Telestial Realm where sinners go) or whatever. But if 1 out of the 144,000 inherits my computer, I hope they erase my porno because I don't want anyone to know what kind of ****ed-up sh*t I'm into.
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 87
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:34:10 PM
Im sorry that u feel that way robetini and its ur opinion and ur intitled to that.
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 89
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Posted: 10/26/2004 7:59:02 PM
I dont think (I may be wrong) it u look through all of my posts that I literally said " I am right and u r wrong" It takes all kinds to make this old world go around and well sometimes it doesnt go the way some of us would like for it to. There is a difference in discussion and bashing.
 forthebeauty
Joined: 7/14/2004
Msg: 90
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Posted: 10/27/2004 5:10:13 AM
yna I love ur sense of humor man, keep up the good work, and it does say something like that in the bible. Most people with money think that will get them wherever they want to be.
 freemind
Joined: 10/16/2004
Msg: 91
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Posted: 10/27/2004 6:56:04 AM
book of JOB - Old Testament. Beautiful Story.
 freemind
Joined: 10/16/2004
Msg: 92
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Posted: 10/27/2004 11:25:05 AM
[Anyhow's....the way I have it figured, there will be an Armeggedon someday....probably....but we will survive (as a species), and the sooner we get "all our eggs out of one basket" (meaning setting up colonies on other planets or moons) the better. Maybe someone really frigged it up, and God meant for us to inhabit the whole galaxy first...we'll see...if so, that gives us a bit of breathing room! ]

LMAO: I like you. Why do you believe in an Armeggedon though? I guess that should be another thread...
 canttouchthis
Joined: 10/11/2004
Msg: 93
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Posted: 10/27/2004 6:19:22 PM
Hell could be a method of control. What I mean is that the church (all that preach heaven and hell) use emotions to control their followers. Two of the most powerful emotions humans have are hope and fear. What the church will tell you is that if you sin, in other words, don't do what they say, then you will go to hell (fear). If you do what they say, then you are rewarded and go to heaven (hope).
 giggleparts
Joined: 10/23/2004
Msg: 99
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Posted: 11/1/2004 12:02:07 AM
I am a firm believer (NOOOOOOO!) that you create your own hell. My idea of heaven is not basking in the 1 trillion watt glory of God, for me it's gaining ultimate wisdom and DBGT like powers and of course anime teens.

 giggleparts
Joined: 10/23/2004
Msg: 102
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Posted: 11/1/2004 9:50:38 PM
Yes that movie was unsettling.

And you might be right, there could be a whole lot of symbolism and metaphor.

On the plus side I look forward to meeting up with my OverSoul and adding to my Soul knowledge.

It's going to be a cool reunion, after my experiences are added to my complete self, that also contain all my other lives (much like a Trill on Star Trek), I'll be able to access DBGT like powers and expand upon the multiverse.

Am I nuts, well I'll find out, won't I.
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