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 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 21
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!Page 4 of 5    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)

The team that should be the champion is the one who decides it on the field of play.


Then why should we even have a playoff.
Florida was the team that played in the BCS Championship game and won it on the field of play. Florida Gators National Champions
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 22
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/21/2009 6:42:19 AM

The best team in college football is decided in recruiting just as the best teams in pro sports are decided on draft day


The best team in college football is decided during the football season and the Bowl games.

The Detroit Lions get the best draft picks every year and still can't win a game much less get in the playoffs.

Is your last name McFly
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 24
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/21/2009 3:57:24 PM

Utah was undefeated and 5 other teams besides OU and FL had 1 loss at the end of the regular season so it's absolutely impossible to definitively pick 2 teams from all of them to play in a final game.


Utah didn't play anybody no wonder they won all their games:
UNLV, Utah St, Weber St. New Mexico, TCU, San Diego St

They picked two teams Florida vs Oklahoma, Florida winning the Championship game.
Makes them National Champions of College football.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 25
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/22/2009 4:06:22 AM
You're absolutely wrong. Fans control sports no matter what anybody says and if nobody goes to the games or watches them on tv then this would completely eliminate C.F.'s revenue stream and force them to take action. I would go as far as to say fans wouldn't even need to strike for a whole season...just a few games for them to get the point.


And this is why fans pay for new stadiums with tax dollars benefiting the rich, or why fans pay through the nose to sit and watch the games, or why they pay 6 dollars to drink a beer at a game. I have to agree its fans like you that control the game.

Good luck. Of course, the broadcasters determine when games are shown on the tube, when games are played, and at this point the college game is controlled by a small group of teams that will attract the best athletes. Why because of the money involved. College football teams are the minor league teams for professional football, good luck changing that!
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 26
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/22/2009 5:39:02 AM

You're absolutely wrong. Fans control sports no matter what anybody says and if nobody goes to the games or watches them on tv then this would completely eliminate C.F.'s revenue stream and force them to take action


Some of your tax dollars goes towards paying your college football teams head coach in your city. Some of my tax dollar money went to Phil Fullmer when they give him $6 million dollars just to leave.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 28
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/22/2009 5:59:03 AM
Then why will they issue out rings to the gator players that will say 2009 National Champions? And Utah won't get a thing.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 29
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/22/2009 7:41:58 AM

you said all they can do is play and beat the teams on their sch., wrong they make there sch., they could put better teams on it if they chose to do so.but they dont, wonder why that is?


So they can beat a bunch of nobody's and have a unbeaten record then cry because they don't play in the BCS Championship game.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 31
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/23/2009 7:13:52 AM

Let me just ask you this...are you in favor of a playoff?


Most people are but I don't think it will happen.
I watched Sports Center a few days ago and the AD at Notre Dame said he was totally against it happening, but not sure how much influence he has on it.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 33
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/23/2009 1:34:56 PM

You still didn't answer the question...are you in favor of a playoff or aren't you?


If there is no playoff then the BCS game determines the champion.
I really don't care one way or the other.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 34
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/23/2009 6:55:02 PM
All I'm saying is that every collegiate sport besides Div. I C.F. has a playoff and there's no legit reason not to have one. 90% of fans want to see a postseason tournament and this year is a perfect example of why the current system doesn't and can't ever work. How can anybody justify a system that tells the #3 team in the country that they get no shot whatsoever at a national title? That's insane to me. You still didn't answer the question...are you in favor of a playoff or aren't you?


No I really don't care . I enjoy college football as it is. In fact more than professional football. Question? This 90% of the fans that favor the playoff system. Where did this number come from?
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 35
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/23/2009 7:14:07 PM

This 90% of the fans that favor the playoff system. Where did this number come from?


From what I read in this Thread so far most people don't really care one way or the other
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 36
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/23/2009 7:17:09 PM
This 90% of the fans that favor the playoff system. Where did this number come from?


From what I read in this Thread so far most people don't really care one way or the other


Perhaps he did an informal poll asking his kids, grandmother and the cat?
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 38
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/24/2009 1:11:39 PM

There is no argument for not having a playoff, Smaller schools would be able to compete if they could recruit and be able to tell the kids they will have a shot at the title,


I hope I live to see the day when it's Ball State playing against Arkansas State for the National Championship.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 39
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/24/2009 1:32:13 PM
I hope I live to see the day when it's Ball State playing against Arkansas State for the National Championship.

It might be nice. However it is as liekly as the New Orleans Saints playing the Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl. Just doesn't seem like it will ever happen.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 41
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/25/2009 5:47:55 AM
This is just one poll that has come out in the last 6 months or so that clearly shows around 90% of fans being in favor of a playoff. There have been several on ESPN.com and a few other sites but I wasn't able to find them in their archives or I'm not looking in the right place. Anyway, with that high of a percentage of fans being in favor of changing the current system that should definitely say alot.


Opinion polls conducted by ESPN are not considered to be valid or reliable indications of anything other than the fact that a question was asked and people responded.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 43
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/25/2009 6:02:01 AM
Huh??? What other type of proof are you looking for? I mean, if these polls are conducted and college football fans are responding then it's giving us a pretty fair representation of how many of us are in favor of a playoff. If you really don't believe this then do you own poll. Just start asking people you know that like C.F. or even strangers if they're in favor of a playoff. I guarantee you almost every one will say yes. See for yourself...


All this poll could state is that 90% of the participants of this group said yes. That does not mean this group represents 90% of the real population, This is not a valid or reliable piece of information. Ask anyone that does this kind of work. The poll was not valid.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 48
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/25/2009 10:36:13 AM

Every other division of college football has had a playoff for years and every other sport has one. Why should Div. I be any different?


Different strokes for different folks it's what makes the world go around.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 54
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/29/2009 7:03:44 AM
I kinda like it the way it is get to watch more games.
The Bowl season starts around Dec. 19th until the BCS game first week in January.
There's still going to be a Championship game and a National Champion one way or the other. Funny think about Utah is had they had to share the championship with florida, wonder where they would be ranked going into the 2009 season.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 61
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/30/2009 4:30:44 PM
So how do you expand this boycott? You have made your point here, however much like the inaccurate 90% you throw about , the members participating in the forum here at POF will not make much of an impact in shutting down college football. Do you have a plan to back up your post?
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 64
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/31/2009 5:04:20 AM

Please convince me a #16 can beat a #1 in the first round. In more than two decades, a #16 has never beat a #1 in the NCAA basketball tourney in both men's and women's. This is a tournament, famous for its Cinderellas and upsets. So again, pray tell how Buffalo will beat Florida.




If the biggest sports tournament can't keep viewership and attendence from dropping, what makes you think a college football tournament won't have an adverse effect on the bowls. You have yet to explain your side.


I think I would rather watch a evenly matched Bowl game then to watch #16 Buffalo play against # 1 Florida in a playoff.


 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
Msg: 65
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/31/2009 5:12:23 AM

I think I would rather watch a evenly matched Bowl game then to watch #16 Buffalo play against # 1 Florida in a playoff.


Maybe that's one of the reason's there is not a playoff is because if Florida did have to play Buffalo, Florida would probally be 35 point favorites and vegas needing them to cover without getting any players hurt.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 71
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 1/31/2009 8:26:04 PM
I agree that the top 16 is a good place to start. Problem is the method of ranking the teams? If you no longer rank the teams using the BCS, how do you rank the teams and therefore how do you determine how a team becomes ranked in the top 16. After eading all of the back and forth I am surprised that no one has picked up the most most glaring problem with the agruemnet for the palyoof system. Really, does the playoff system eleiminate the problems we have determining rankings in general?
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 72
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Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 2/1/2009 3:05:50 AM
In order to win the 64 team NCAA basketball tournament, a team must win 6 straight games, against increasingly more powerful opponents.
If you had an NCAA football tournament with the top 16 teams, that would add another 4 games to the champion's season. The 2 final teams would play a 17 or 18 game season. I think that's way too much for college football players.
Does anyone really think that the #16th ranked team has ANY valid argument for being considered as best team ???
Only the top 8 teams should play for the championship.

As far as ranking the teams.
Win% + Avg. Opponents Win % = the teams rating.
Very simple and easy to understand.
 climbsagain
Joined: 1/20/2008
Msg: 73
Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 2/1/2009 4:58:16 AM
As far as ranking the teams.
Win% + Avg. Opponents Win % = the teams rating.
Very simple and easy to understand.

And when three or more teams finish with a one loss record and another 5 teams finsih with a two loss record you base the ranking for the playoff how? If you take away the BCS, which we would since it would not be needed we suddenly have traded one problem for another problem. Otherwise in theory you could have a weaker team of 16 teams advance to the finals by beating other weaker teams of the 16 to end up with a very boring championship game?
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 76
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Boycott college football until there's a playoff!
Posted: 2/1/2009 5:48:06 AM
I have no problem using a system like the Div. 1 does. Of course, that means a much shorter regular season for everybody if they are going to get away with only 15 games.
A lot of teams would have to drop non-conference games completely. It would probably mean no more annual Notre Dame/USC and a lot of other traditional rivalries.

Take a look at some of those smaller bowls played before Christmas. I notice a lot of empty seats . Certainly, those bowls would love to get some better marquee teams as part of a playoff system to make more money.
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