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 TimPommell
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Perhaps not. But, I can gaurantee you that a lifestyle of a man and woman living together outside of wedlock would cause Coulter to tear you down as much as she tears down all other lifestyles that don't fit her narrow minded view of the world.

Sure, she's an idiot, but she's basically correct about single motherhood. More often than not, single motherhood is not something that happens to you, but something you choose. Why should I have to pay for the bad decision making skills of single mothers?

Why is it that "progressive" people pigeon hole all who disagree with them as "narrow minded" or "idiots" isn't that the very antithesis of progressive thinking? When the Red team held power, dissent was promoted as true patriotism, yet now that the Blue team is in control the goal seems to be to squash all dissenting opinions… Where I come from that’s called hypocrisy.

I find Ann Coulter to be extremely abrasive, yet I agree with her perspective completely on many issues. HOWEVER, for the most part I do not approve of her delivery methods, but then again, if she promoted the left position rather than her own, then she could be one of the nicer people on Air America. I guess the goal is to eliminate the messenger, thereby eliminating the message…

Comrade Pelosi, Comrade Reid, Comrade Obama, welcome to Washington!
 prettygirl3
Joined: 9/19/2008
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Posted: 1/16/2009 11:51:29 AM
Perhaps not. But, I can gaurantee you that a lifestyle of a man and woman living together outside of wedlock would cause Coulter to tear you down as much as she tears down all other lifestyles that don't fit her narrow minded view of the world. Also, you can plan on the fact that your role modeling will impact the way your offspring have relationships in their adult lives. How it will impact is up to the child.
FYI their father, (my ex husband) and I live in the same house only for the sake of the children. It is more convenient for both of us this way and better for the children. I believe Ms Coulter would applaud the fact we are putting the children's needs before our own. A fact many here may not understand. It's called sacrifice.
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
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Posted: 1/16/2009 5:43:21 PM
From OpEdNews:

We have a term for "Children of divorce," writes Coulter, "I call them, future strippers."


Currently, our 19-year old niece is living with us while she attends college. She is the child of an unwed mother.
Contrary to what Coulter asserts, my niece has a goal of earning a degree and then joining the Peace Corp--a far cry from stripping.
Her mother has done a wonderful job--Justine is vibrant, bright, and funny, and is smart enough to realize that she needs to have a solid education in order to achieve her goals. She puts the lie to Coulter's words.

Ann Coulter is an ugly human being devoid of compassion and grace.
 427cammer
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Posted: 1/16/2009 6:47:22 PM

I don't really believe that we have an epidemic of wives leaving their husbands just for pure financial gain. It might happen, but that's rarely the case

I live in a different part of the world than you and a large part of my opinions on this topic are formed from personal experience or the experiences of people I know. While some might ask for me to "cite sources", I would highly doubt any survey with the question "Are you a gold digger?" would give reliable results... so I'm stuck with personal experience. Which is my preference anyhow... perhaps someone living in the "show me" state can relate?

In my area our economy is still strong.... it is driven by the oilfield... where bluecollar men (and a few women) can earn large paycheques working long hours. My hometown of 50,000 people regularly has 10 pages of job classifieds in the local paper... which has decreased significantly in the last two years. Many people here feel that a job earning 200K a year constitutes middle class... and yes... men earn the lion's share of household incomes. Up here when people get divorced large alimony payments are not uncommon.

Even with our strong economy we sill have unemployment and welfare. I personally know one woman (a single mother) who did use the welfare system... quite simply, she didn't like to work. While this is just one case, for myself it is still indicative of how the world works... I just don't know the finances of very many single mothers.

I wouldn't say that there is an epidemic of women leaving their husbands based on the large settlements they can recieve.... but in my part of the world this is a reality that cannot be ignored.

Most of the older generation did not get divorced because we lived in completely different world. Woman in those times, were not able to survive by themselves. They faced discrimination in the workplace. They often got paid a lot less then men, and many professions would not hire them. Some of them did not have a choice because some judge thought their reason for divorce did not meet his criteria

Fifty years ago when women were not financially protected in divorce, it was uncommon for the men to walk away from their families. This tells me that it is the media and societal conditioning that play a large role in today's single parent crisis. With little or no negative stigma attached to single parenthood men and women walk away from relationships for reasons that in the past would seem frivolous... today it's just "you go girl!!!" Sorry, I can't think of a stereotypical phrase to fit the men... but I do realize that either genders can be at fault.

Can you honestly say to me with a straight face that my mom's divorce was wrong and I would be better off if they stayed together? I would also be livid if a judge just told her she has to remain married to him because he felt that their divorce was necessary.

I agree that people shouldn't be forced to stay together when conditions are intolerable. For whatever reason the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction... and it is hurting our children.

However, i don't think the state should be interfering in people's personal lives.

I suspect there are many people living in apartments who are paying their ex-spouses mortgage would agree with you. I do know of one woman who was threatened with being forced to pay alimony (I've never asked her how things worked out), and it would have been a complete injustice... our laws are not written well enough to protect people from users.... whatever gender they may be.
 427cammer
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Posted: 1/16/2009 8:00:12 PM

She does not blame single mothers themselves, they are victims of the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.


This statement makes no reference to what I feel is traditionaly called sex education... something that is taught in school.

Instead she is talking about Coulter's opinion (and one that I agree with) that our media today does not promote celibacy before marriage. Instead in movies and television casual sex is glamourized and most often consequence free. This is something that I feel can promote unhealthy attitudes about sex among young people.
How can restating Coulter's opinions be considered as lying?

I've stated my opinion and I've given reasons why I believe this. So now... am I lying?
 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Posted: 1/17/2009 8:14:05 AM

The Leave it Beaver days NEED NOT be a thing of the past...

Spare us please, the "Leave it to Beaver" days never existed in anything close to the way you appear to imagine them.

I say that the media and society has created a monstrous idea that casual sex which results in single motherhood, is responsible.

That is as much nonsense as:

the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.
 TimPommell
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Posted: 1/17/2009 8:42:04 AM
I say that the media and society has created a monstrous idea that casual sex which results in single motherhood, is responsible. Making it more shameful to be found pregnant at 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and even 18 would be better than the alternative of abortions and children raising children. The norm these days is when a girl is having sex, gets pregnant, she is rewarded with a monthly government check, food stamps, section 8 housing, and the opportunity to go and do it all over again. There is no deterrant for unwed mothers anymore. She hasn't found love in the home, so she decides to bring a baby into the world, hoping it will give her the life she's fantasized about her whole life. Of course, when the child interfers with her social life, the child gets pushed aside, and mom's needs are met before the childs. If it's lucky enough, a grandparent is around to step in and give it the attention it is not getting from it's mother. And so the cycle repeats itself. Children are not being taught to abstain from a mindset of always having pleasure on demand, regardless what it is.

I think if Caylee Anthony were available for comment, she would see things as Ms. Coulter does....


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Casey-Anthony-Nightclubing-After-Daughter-Caylee-Anthony-Missing/Article/200807415060224?lpos=World_News_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15060224_US_Casey_Anthony_Nightclubing_After_Daughter_Caylee_Anthony_Missing

The photos show Casey Anthony smiling and posing with various people at an Orlando club in the US.
The pictures were taken on June 20 yet on July 15 she went to police and told them her two-year-old daughter Caylee had been missing since June 9.
Anthony, from Orlando, is being held in jail on charges of child neglect, making false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation.
She has not been charged with her daughter's murder but is being held on a £250,000 bond as a person of interest.
Police say they fear Caylee has been murdered but they have not released details of any suspect.
In transcripts of a 911 call, Caylee's grandmother tells an operator she thought her own daughter's car had been used to transport a body.
"There's something wrong," Cindy Anthony told the dispatcher.
"I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
In three 911 calls, she said she wanted to press charges against her daughter Casey, 22, for "grand theft", then in a second call she said she had someone in her home who needed to be arrested in relation to a missing toddler.
Casey Anthony claims her babysitter took the child and she did not report the girl missing for a month because she thought she could find the pair.

Looks like a text book example of what Ms. Coulter is telling us in her book. We have statistics and we have an actual application that proves her opinion ... still want to argue the point? (By the way, Casey was either 17 or 18 when she became pregnant with her now deceased daughter, and she has now been charged with her murder...)
 mungojoe
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Posted: 1/17/2009 9:40:53 AM

I think if Caylee Anthony were available for comment, she would see things as Ms. Coulter does....


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Casey-Anthony-Nightclubing-After-Daughter-Caylee-Anthony-Missing/Article/200807415060224?lpos=World_News_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15060224_US_Casey_Anthony_Nightclubing_After_Daughter_Caylee_Anthony_Missing

The photos show Casey Anthony smiling and posing with various people at an Orlando club in the US.
The pictures were taken on June 20 yet on July 15 she went to police and told them her two-year-old daughter Caylee had been missing since June 9.
Anthony, from Orlando, is being held in jail on charges of child neglect, making false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation.
She has not been charged with her daughter's murder but is being held on a £250,000 bond as a person of interest.
Police say they fear Caylee has been murdered but they have not released details of any suspect.
In transcripts of a 911 call, Caylee's grandmother tells an operator she thought her own daughter's car had been used to transport a body.
"There's something wrong," Cindy Anthony told the dispatcher.
"I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
In three 911 calls, she said she wanted to press charges against her daughter Casey, 22, for "grand theft", then in a second call she said she had someone in her home who needed to be arrested in relation to a missing toddler.
Casey Anthony claims her babysitter took the child and she did not report the girl missing for a month because she thought she could find the pair.

Looks like a text book example of what Ms. Coulter is telling us in her book. We have statistics and we have an actual application that proves her opinion ... still want to argue the point? (By the way, Casey was either 17 or 18 when she became pregnant with her now deceased daughter, and she has now been charged with her murder...)

"a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter" fallacy.

An example for virtually every nutbar view can be found. Showing an example such as this proves nothing if you cannot show that this is the more common than its opposite.

For each case you can show like this, how many tens of thousands are out there that never even approach this?

How many tens of thousands of children have grown up in single-parent homes without ever being abused, killed or falling into a life of crime and addiction compared to the relative few who meet this exception?

I suggest even a quick look around this site at all the posters who were raised in single-parent homes for evidence of what I suggest.

Kind of destroys this "exception which masquerades as a rule" doesn't it?
 prettygirl3
Joined: 9/19/2008
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Posted: 1/17/2009 10:18:50 AM
The Leave it Beaver days NEED NOT be a thing of the past...

Spare us please, the "Leave it to Beaver" days never existed in anything close to the way you appear to imagine them.


I say that the media and society has created a monstrous idea that casual sex which results in single motherhood, is responsible.

That is as much nonsense as:


the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.


whatever.. I think you just proved my case.
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
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Posted: 1/17/2009 10:35:05 AM
specific but invisible statistics

WTF?

Either they are specific and visible, or they are not.

It is vital to remember what Ann Coulter's job is: to incite.

Her success depends on public reactions to the (in my opinion) twisted facts and skewed logic she sh!ts on every page of her books.
Even I was tempted to order the book online last night--thankfully, there was a rerun of an NCIS episode on, and I watched that instead...

Is Coulter specifically addressing those women who choose to become single mothers?
Or those women who were abandoned by the fathers of their children?
Women who were victims of incest or rape, where a child was the result?

Specifically, whom is Coulter blaming?
 Hawaiianluau
Joined: 11/13/2008
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Posted: 1/17/2009 11:57:27 AM
I'm still waiting to hear where anyone from the View disagreed with Ann on her views on single motherhood besides the fallacies cited.
Whoopy just questioned her validity as not being a mother which is predictable from such an intellectual tv program. Nothing shows anyone
disagreeing, only dissing.
If the video shows something that's why I didn't catch it.
Got a 12 year old dial up pc here.
 cotter
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Posted: 1/17/2009 12:47:10 PM

NEW YORK - Last week, Ann Coulter squared off against Matt Lauer on NBC’s “TODAY” show, and Monday the conservative political pundit brought her provocative point of view to ABC’s “The View.”
I haven't had a chance to look at the Matt Lauer interview ... was it anything like the appearance on "The View"?

Ann Coulter is a idiotic nut case. I mean, to sit there and write something about how single mothers are to blame for violence increases in society is flat out ridiculous alone within itself.
You know ... as a nurse working in a jail (for about a year) ... I wonder if maybe while we're asking the inmates all the medical questions ... maybe we should just ask them too ...

"By the way, are you the result of a 'single mother' and if so, in your opinion, is that the reason you're now sitting in front me being asked these questions before they escort you back to a cell?"

If you directly ask the people who are being caught and convicted ... wouldn't that be reliable information?
 Super Ryan
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Posted: 1/17/2009 4:08:06 PM
I am not going to argue if the satistic about single mothers is true. Because it is a false statistic. Just because there is a coerlation, does not mean one causes the other.
Here's a good example of what I am talking about on a different topic:

The Treason Times' banner series about Iraq and Afghanistan veterans accused of murder began in January last year but was quickly discontinued as readers noticed that the Times doggedly refused to provide any statistics comparing veteran murders with murders in any other group.

So they waited a year, hoping readers wouldn't notice they were still including no relevant comparisons.

What, for example, is the percentage of murderers among veterans compared to the percentage of murderers in the population at large -- or, more germane, in the general population of young males, inasmuch as violent crime is committed almost exclusively by young men?

Any group composed primarily of young men will contain a seemingly mammoth number of murderers.

Consider the harmless fantasy game, Dungeons and Dragons -- which happens to be played almost exclusively by young males. When murders were committed in the '80s by (1) young men, who were (2) Dungeons and Dragons enthusiasts, some people concluded that factor (2), rather than factor (1), led to murderous tendencies.

-Ann Coutlter January 14th, 2009
http://www.anncoulter.com/

Funny how when she does not like a stat, she will tear into its validity, but she will use the same dishonest techniques to bolster her rediculous arguements.
 Hawaiianluau
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Posted: 1/17/2009 5:34:24 PM
I don't know if it was on the Lauer interview or not but I watched her say somewhere
that we don't see men being exalted for being single fathers.
Her examples were hilarious which is what she is, a comedian. She just touches chords in the left that gets this uproar going
which in turn turns into major publicity which turns into millions of dollars.
Al Franken, another who is nothing but a comedian, would love to get her book deals but had to get a job with a salary instead.
 427cammer
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Posted: 1/17/2009 6:11:34 PM
The Treason Times' banner series about Iraq and Afghanistan veterans accused of murder began in January last year but was quickly discontinued as readers noticed that the Times doggedly refused to provide any statistics comparing veteran murders with murders in any other group.

I wouldn't be surprised if statistics showed that soldiers returning from war did commit more violent crimes than average. These young men are trained to be violent, combine that with the psychological trauma exposed to them in open warfare and I would expect that a certain number of these men would have trouble readjusting into regular society. This is a neccasary evil of maintaining an armed forces. In order to make any statistic relevant I would still want to see the percentages of violent crimes commited by non-veterans in the same age group.

Consider the harmless fantasy game, Dungeons and Dragons -- which happens to be played almost exclusively by young males.

This is corelation. Maludjusted geeky kids are more likely to do geeky behaviour - including murder. Maladjusted geeky kids like geeky games. Kind of like the chicken and egg question... which came first?
I say:
1)A kid who is maladjusted or geeky is more likely to choose geeky behaviour, be it something harmless like a game, or something extreme like murder.
2)Single parent households produce more maladjusted geeky kids than a two parent household.

Why is it so many on the left are not willing to admit that a two parent household is better for raising children? Why are the bleeding hearts who advocate prisoner's rights (or shorter sentences) willing to use "he was raised by a single mother" as an excuse when it seems appropriate?

When republicans ran campaign ads saying something like "We are the party that promotes family values" some democrats claimed these were attack ads... and I agreed (not that the democrats haven't done their own share of attacking.)

With so many of the left here denying that single parent households are less desireable than two parent households my opinion is starting to change. Maybe the democrats really are the anti-family party.

I don't think anybody forced the left into claimining ownership for the single parent crisis. Now it seems that you want this responsibility... but only if we all play along and say "It isn't really a crisis."
 msquared
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Posted: 1/17/2009 10:50:36 PM

Looks like a text book example of what Ms. Coulter is telling us in her book. We have statistics and we have an actual application that proves her opinion ... still want to argue the point? (By the way, Casey was either 17 or 18 when she became pregnant with her now deceased daughter, and she has now been charged with her murder...)


I just searched a bit through the internet, and it turns out some children in traditional families have also been murdered by their parents. Hard to imagine, I know.

I guess this means traditional families also shouldn't have children.
 msquared
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Posted: 1/17/2009 10:53:25 PM

I don't think anybody forced the left into claimining ownership for the single parent crisis. Now it seems that you want this responsibility... but only if we all play along and say "It isn't really a crisis."


I think it is more likely that we just aren't as willing as some of you to blame an entire group for the actions of a few.
 cncgandolf
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Posted: 1/17/2009 11:40:56 PM
"If you directly ask the people who are being caught and convicted ... wouldn't that be reliable information?"

Absolutely not. criminals are experts at the blame game. Everything they do is somebody else's fault that they do it. They never step up to individual accountability.

Coulter is playing the blame game just as much. Rather than having criminals step up to responsibility she is blaming they upbringings. She is limiting it to their upbringings but apparently she puts aside all the criminals who did have fathers around and just blames the criminals who were raised by mothers.

The issue is whether there is a correlational statistic or a causal statistic and I do not see that she has ... or anyone on here ... has proven the causal statistic of single motherhood. Only that there is a correlary sometimes.
 geeleebee
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Posted: 1/18/2009 10:01:06 AM
Coulter has clearly said that the LEFT is responsible for the illegitimacy problem in the United States.

This statement posted by another member makes Coulter's point:

She does not blame single mothers themselves, they are victims of the Left's psychology impressed upon them which forbids teaching young girls that life is generally easier when sex comes AFTER marriage, and instead tells them that all sex is always ok and consequence free.


WHO is 'forbidding' teaching young girls that life is easier when sex comes AFTER marriage? I want NAMES and PLACES. I want PROOF that someone on the LEFT has 'forbidden' anyone to teach that.

I want to know WHO has told our children that 'sex is always ok and consequence free'.
I want NAMES.

What a divisive load of horseshit.
 faith2565
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Posted: 1/18/2009 12:17:16 PM
Ann is a big mouth bag of nothing air. She can go jump.
 cotter
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"If you directly ask the people who are being caught and convicted ... wouldn't that be reliable information?"

Absolutely not. criminals are experts at the blame game. Everything they do is somebody else's fault that they do it. They never step up to individual accountability.
'cncgandolf" ... I said that in jest.

Of course I'm well aware of the game criminals play. Most are professional cons. It was always funny the way they would try to con us nurses into giving them pills ... just an Aspirin or Tylenol. It wasn't because they even needed it. Mostly it is the thrill of the game for them.


Even though I am a republican..I think Ann Coulter is a putz...
As for Coulter? Trust me ... if the poster who wrote the above says that ... you can believe it. Coulter's value to the media is that she stirs up trouble and she openly admits that. I wonder if that means she's a "professional troublemaker"?
 jed456
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Posted: 1/18/2009 1:38:31 PM

Even though I am a republican..I think Ann Coulter is a putz


Will wonder's never cease I agree with the poster.
 d0rene
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Posted: 1/18/2009 2:22:05 PM

all i can add is that the rate of teen pregnancy has increased dramatically since the introduction of so-called "sex education." if you compare out of wedlock birth statistics from the 50's to the stats of today, the increase has been pretty dramatic. the link between poverty and single motherhood is pretty damning. but i suppose that isn't something that is imparted during today's "sex" education classes.


The numbers of KNOWN teen pregnancies have increased. In earlier years it was not a topic for discussion. In fact I doubt that newborn's deaths were fully investigated or questioned.

Abigail Adams was appalled when she went to France and saw the large numbers of illegitimate children that were being raised there. People act like this is the first generation who have ever had this problem. Motherhood is not being looked at as a job. We begrudge the amount of time that is spent for raising children in the home. Do I think it is better to raise children in a two parent home. Yeah, if they can get along - but who can make that decision but them. Children are the future building blocks of society. I agree that they shouldn't be raise dby someone who is not willing to put the child's needs ahead of their own, but who would be qualified to determine that? Ann Coulter?

For anyone who wants to bring up Casey Anthony, let me just bring up the Menendez brothers. After all they were raised in a two parent home.
 geeleebee
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Posted: 1/18/2009 2:26:41 PM
I asked a friend if she would relate part of her experience raising her children as a single mother. She gave me permission to use her kids as an example of what happens when you're a single mother AND you pay attention to your job.
Too bad Ann Coulter didn't talk with my friend before she wrote her book.

"My oldest child, her father left town when I told him I was pregnant. She has never lived with him, and does not speak with him today (as far as I know). She took honors classes in high school, has graduated college, left a 60k per year job to join the Peace Corps and is now serving in Eastern Europe teaching health care. She wants to go to Vienna when she is through and go to grad school. She wants to be a therapist.

My next child, just graduated from the sheriff's academy, and my Deputy son gave me the best present ever for Christmas - my first grandchild.

My third child has managed to graduate high school despite his learning disabilities and the fricken state exit exam which does not go far enough to accomodate the learning disabled in my opinion, and is attending college while trying to find a job in this awful ecomomy.

My youngest is the sweetest little girl in the world, who loves so freely, and feels so deeply she cries if she thinks she has caused anyone a moment of pain. She is possibly more empathetic than I am. She is my heart. She has not had her father in the home since she was 18 months old.

I did not receive public assistance other than Medi-Cal when I was pregnant the first time, and one month's food stamps during that pregnancy. I have cared for my children and done whatever I had to do to support them.

I pay my bills, I pay my taxes, and I am buying my first home on my own - which will close escrow 1/30/09. In fact, My life and the lives of my children are much better today BECAUSE I became a single mother again after 15 years of marriage. If we had not divorced, I am 100% certain I would have trashed credit, only one car working for all of us, no money in the bank, and would never have been able to purchase a home.

Yeah, us single moms are the cause of all the trouble in the world. Crappy economy, my fault. War in the middle east - blame me. Global warming - guilty as charged. "
 427cammer
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Posted: 1/18/2009 8:12:14 PM

Trauma in open warfare? Yes... I remember... yes I deal with it... but in a non violent way.

I agree that the vast majority of returning vets are upstanding members of society and deal with any past traumas just fine. In an ideal world soldiers would never be sent to war, or be forced to witness what nobody should have to view. We don't live in an ideal world and whether they like to admit it or not, nations who want freedom depend on the US to maintain a strong armed forces. I thank you for your service.

I'm going to try and say this as politically correct as possible:

In an ideal world all children would receive the love and support and discipline from both their mother and father on a daily basis.

^^^^ Nobody has ever lived in that ideal world and now it seems that popular wisdom is telling us that because it is an unattainable dream nobody should bother to strive for it. I realize that many marriages are filled with hate and should be ended. At the same time many marriages are ended out of convenience or boredom or many other frivolous reasons... and for some reason in todays society this is viewed as perfectly acceptable. I also realize that for whatever reason more single women are having babies in the last 40 years.

Other than these crime statistices appear to support suspicions that I've always held, I really have no interest in them. I don't spend one minute of my day living in fear of crime.... outrage sometimes... but I'm not really a fearful person. However I am fearful that today's children are less happy and cared for than in past generations... and as another poster has pointed out... it is a vicious circle that will cause even more pain for future generations.

WHO is 'forbidding' teaching young girls that life is easier when sex comes AFTER marriage? I want NAMES and PLACES. I want PROOF that someone on the LEFT has 'forbidden' anyone to teach that.

I want to know WHO has told our children that 'sex is always ok and consequence free'.
I want NAMES.

Okay... Jerry Seinfeld, Charlie Sheen, Pam Anderson, Madonna and Britney Spears. If you want more just look at the names on any movie or telivision show or music video that is selling sex. I like sex, I've laughed at dirty jokes and most often I put the remote down when I flip to a channel with hot looking naked girls... or even half naked hot girls.

Censorship is needed at certain levels. People who say that "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" is pornography are nuts. Even so if those same "nuts" are angry that at 5 PM children can tune in to watch guys talk about boners on "Two and a Half Men" then I would have to agree with them.

There are those who make attacks on the conservative right as being religous zealots, yet I feel no compelling urge to start attending church.

If a wingnut like Coulter says it is the left who promote sex through mainstream media I see no reason why anybody on the left would insist on proving her correct.

What a divisive load of horseshit.

It doesn't have to be divisive. A rational adult can admit that a skanky b*tch like Coulter has some truth in her message, without feeling the need to peal the "I voted for Obama" sticker off their bumper.
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