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 SAguy_06
Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 26
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children, Sould It be anybody business?...Page 2 of 10    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10)
Like FREE SPEECH I do defend a Woman Right to to decide with HER FAMILY, and HER DOCTOR what is best for HER(them).

Like free speech, I may not agree with the person's decesion, but I DEFEND their Right to choice.

I was supprised how a "Private Citizen" in America could have their Private Life scrutinized by the Everyone...Media. Of which most had no personal knowledge of this person's private life. I might be worng, but when did this woman come out ask anyone for ANYTHING...

I was also supprised on how many Posters had not just critical, but IMO, vile things to say about this person. If you disagree with her desicion thats cool, but to refer to her children, or any children as a "Litter"...

Excuse me if I withhold judgement...especially if it's the "6 o'clock News" giving me thier take on the story...

I may be DEAD WRONG...My head may be up my ass..."Out of the Norm"...
But I still and will defend this woman right to Privacy, Choice and the right to living her life from under the Microscope of the "media" checking into every detail of her private life...How many of us would like or would allow this type of scrutiny.
 Padawan61
Joined: 3/1/2008
Msg: 27
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Posted: 2/3/2009 4:54:36 AM
^^^^^Free speech is one thing ... popping 14 kids is quite another. How do you equate the two as the same??

But I still and will defend this woman right to Privacy, Choice and the right to living her life from under the Microscope of the "media" checking into every detail of her private life...How many of us would like or would allow this type of scrutiny

Excuse me, but isn't she the one who is seeking out the likes of Oprah in order to sell her story for 2 million cool ones?? It is this single mom who is actively looking for the spectacles of the media circus so as to cash in ... no??
 GeneralizingNow
Joined: 10/10/2007
Msg: 28
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children, Sould It be anybody business?...
Posted: 2/3/2009 10:10:41 AM
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/irresistible/18627175/detail.html

As predicted!!
 jm0405
Joined: 7/7/2008
Msg: 29
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/3/2009 11:52:19 AM
I am sure Oprah will buy her a car, a year's supply of diapers and food, will build the mother of the children a house and pay her well to appear on the show at some point in the future.

Doctors should be limited regarding fertility. A person with 6 children already obviously didn't need a fertility specialist! Better regulations/guidelines need to be put in place nationwide!
 catkin2007
Joined: 12/18/2007
Msg: 30
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/4/2009 11:24:09 AM
Well, its not for me to say how many children a person should or should not have, but having 14 children does make me wonder who is going to provide them with all the nuturing they need. One mother and fourteen children under 7 is a lot of responsibility and someone is going to fall through the cracks... there is not enough of her to go around.

I pray that things work out for her and the children.
 Sweet J-me Baby
Joined: 10/14/2007
Msg: 31
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/4/2009 12:58:55 PM

Someone needs to tell this lady its not a clown car, its a vagina.


OK, that was damn funny!!

Beyond the financial strains and despite having six other children who need and deserve nurturing and love, what is this mother going to do if even one-half of these babies are colicky?? One colicky baby can be enough to drain two parents, never mind one. These babies will not only have all the normal childhood ailments, but are at risk of others because of their size at birth. A couple that were quoted on the news last night: Cerebral Palsy and a host of respiratory ailments.
 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 32
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/4/2009 3:15:55 PM
She already has one child that is autistic. She allso, apparently, has more than one father of the children:

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available. One of the older children is autistic

That woman is a commodities broker... not a mother - in the real sense.

I read one article where it was suggested that she went to Mexico for the fetrtilization process. I begin to wonder how much exploiting of North America can be had before enough is enough. As it appears, Mexico made money from the fertilization process and the USA is footing the bill for everything else.... *sigh*

I'm beginning to sense a prearranged financial agreement with the mexican doctor/ clinic.... I'm sure they're going to get a lot of press and $$$$, as well - if this is true.
 Miss W
Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 33
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/4/2009 4:16:42 PM
As for the Duggar family, they had one at a time for the most part, having a set of twins as well. They had their children because they could do it together.

The Duggars are at least able to take care of what they bring into the world and from what I've seen, they are very organized. I once worked with someone who was one of 18 kids, she was a triplet and her father worked hard between a factory job and a farm back in the days when a large family was necessary to run the farm. This woman is in it as mentioned below:

That woman is a commodities broker... not a mother - in the real sense.

Exactly.
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 34
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/5/2009 7:16:11 AM
Take away all of the "social welfare" that people like her get. Then maybe people in this country will do what's right for them and not depend on Uncle Sam for help. A single parent should not get more money in the form of a tax return then he/she has paid in. That is Socialism. They (the government) take the money (by force) from one group of people and (they) determine who gets that money. That is Socialism. Many of you will say "Oh come on! How do they take your money by force?" Well just not pay your income taxes and their "force" will find you.
 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 35
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/5/2009 7:39:02 AM

Everyone writes about how this woman won't be able to give these children the attention they deserve, but even two parents can't give many children lots of attention. So that point is moot


It's not a moot question. You contradict yourself when stating that two parents can't give much attention to the kids. First off, how many couples do you know that have that many children... so close in age?

I know of a family with 11 kids and another family of 18 kids. In both cases, the children spread in age... approx. 20-30 years from youngest to eldest. This "single" woman has 14 kids all cropped in withing a few years of each other.... that's an enormous difference!!!
 EvilLolli
Joined: 12/7/2008
Msg: 36
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Posted: 2/5/2009 7:53:41 AM
It may not matter how many offers or donations she gets from the media and manufactuers. She obviously has issues dealing w/ basic finaces.

She did not figure out how many children she could afford to have as a single parent, she has filed for bankrupcty, she lives off/with her parents for support. So even if she receives millions from other sources what happens when the money runs out?

In the short term she may make some money off her kids but when the media circus dies down and society loses interest in this situation? Do you think the money will still be rolling in? Situations like this have a shelf life. Society gets bored and moves on. It will take at least 18 years to raise this latest brood of children. Do you see society remaining that interested in her for that long?

When society loses interest and the money runs out, I think we all know who will be footing the bills then.
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 2/9/2009 8:19:44 AM
ya she has money for lip enhancements or just got stung but a bee and swelled up!!! she also apparently has a back injury and cant work ....soooooo naturally if you have a bad back you should have a litter of 8 babies..... that will help the back right???? The parents have also started talking and they are doing all the work for her other kids..... and think she is freaking nuts too..... Sue the bejeezers out of the doctors who did this.
Put a padlock on this crazy baby machines clown vagina.
 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 38
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:44:26 AM
ya she has money for lip enhancements or just got stung but a bee and swelled up!!! she also apparently has a back injury and cant work ....soooooo naturally if you have a bad back you should have a litter of 8 babies..... that will help the back right???? The parents have also started talking and they are doing all the work for her other kids..... and think she is freaking nuts too..... Sue the bejeezers out of the doctors who did this.
Put a padlock on this crazy baby machines clown vagina


**For the mother of a baker's dozen +**

"You give love a bad name, bad name."


From NY Times:


Hollywood celebrity brokers debated how much the family would receive and the ethics of seeking so much publicity for young children. Howard Bragman, a Hollywood publicist and author of “Where’s My Fifteen Minutes? Get Your Company, Your Cause or Yourself the Recognition You Deserve” wondered if the family would start “using the kids as an A.T.M. machine.”

“That’s the part that bothers me,” Mr. Bragman said. “Exactly, what are they going do with them? The more money you get, the more privacy you give up. These kids are going to have a hard enough time without becoming media freaks.”
 Tranquil Spaces
Joined: 8/28/2008
Msg: 39
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/9/2009 10:52:52 AM
I'm curious to see where this woman and her children are ten years from now.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 40
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/9/2009 11:28:15 AM
~OT~ I watched her this morning. She's living in some strange alternative universe ~ thinking all those babies will erase her loveless childhood, her loveless marriage, her depression. She's in for a very rude awakening. The only thing I kept thinking? Anyone remember Andrea Yates? (Clinical depression, babies and post-postpartum issues can be a deadly combination.) Someone should slap that doctor. Good grief ~ common sense is apparently lost on these people. (I see her Mother is speaking out ~ calling her daughter's actions "unconscionable." ) At least she seems to get it.
 baker1972
Joined: 9/3/2008
Msg: 41
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/9/2009 5:21:54 PM
i just have to put my two cents in here. i am outraged that this woman has brought another 8 children into this world that she cannot afford to take care of. In addition that emotional neglect that is going to happen to these poor little babies and her other 6 children. unfortunately someone on here said they don't care how many babies she has as long as she is not footing the bill...well lets hope it never happens in your town other wise you will be...this mother has no job, no income and not even appropriate housing for these children so do you know what that means...she will be going on welfare and do have any idea how much she is going to be costing the tax payers in her town. Instead of having children she needed to get a dog or a cat. she is a very selfish woman and is not thinking of her children but of her own needs that were not met when she was a child-maybe she thinks things will be better if she has someone to love her....that is not what children are for. i am so outraged at this mom that she has no idea what she has done...does she not think the local children and youth agency won't get involved-they deal with child abuse and neglect-there is no way she can do this by herself! but the other thing that outrages me is all the publicity around this-what happens when she no longer gets this type of attention? was the attention what she really wanted? and if anyone chips in to help her-why should they?! there are poor people out there who had multiple children and they did receive anything free from anyone-maybe they shouldn't have had their children (i think i may be contradicting myself now) but why should this woman get anything for free when other families haven't. i know people are concerned for those babies and i am one of those people but giving this mom anything for free i think is just going to encourage her to have more....she really has no idea what she has gotten herself into.
 baker1972
Joined: 9/3/2008
Msg: 42
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Posted: 2/9/2009 5:26:30 PM
if she had a financial backer she wouldn't be living with her parents in a two bedroom home!
 normaldude
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 43
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Posted: 2/9/2009 5:28:55 PM
there are stupid people everywhere. the blame mostly lies with the doctor who made it happen. He and/or his clinic should be sued out of existence. She is a dope who needed to be protected from her own dillusions. The medical people are to blame mostly. They should all take a baby home like its a litter of puppy,s!!! lol...just kidding
 baker1972
Joined: 9/3/2008
Msg: 44
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Posted: 2/9/2009 5:32:56 PM
pazoozoo

how do you figure they aren't going to be abused? and who do you think is going to be watching them...everyone is watching them now that they are in the hospital because that is the safest place for them...what do you think is going to happen when they go home? these babies are at high risk for abuse and neglect...they are defenseless little babies who were born to a selfish mother...what about andrea yates and post pardum depression? don't you think at one point mom is going to crash? don't make assumption about things that you have no clue about.....
 My I
Joined: 1/23/2007
Msg: 45
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/9/2009 8:42:47 PM
Being in the states (malpractice lawsuit capital of the world), I'd be willing to bet, if all else fails she will sue the doctor for malpractice or some other reason(s). She'll probably claim she didn't understand english that well and was duped into being a lab rat (for lack of a better term).

Whack jobs never accept responsibility for their own behaviour/decisions.
 SAguy_06
Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 46
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/10/2009 10:30:24 AM

She's nothing but white trash. That's all


i dont think shes white
 Miss W
Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 47
Woman who gave birth to octuplets already has six young children
Posted: 2/10/2009 3:00:22 PM
The shit for brains doctor who did this should lose his license, this was highly irresponsible on his behalf. People were not intended to give birth to litters.
 SteelCity1981
Joined: 8/16/2005
Msg: 48
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Posted: 2/12/2009 6:52:40 AM
She already has how many kids that she can't afford ontop of 6 more kids now because it was the only way for her to keep herself out of depression, but yet the Tax payers are once again going to help pay for this BS? So she has kids because A) for all the wrong reasons and B) the Tax payers are going to have to pick up the tab. It should be against the law for people like her to even have kids. This is an utter joke.
 davidsauvignon
Joined: 2/6/2008
Msg: 49
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Posted: 2/12/2009 7:00:05 AM

the Tax payers are going to have to pick up the tab

I heard on the news this morning, that 'our share' for the hospital bill alone, is near $1,000,000. Just wait until they start going for their immunizations, checkups, etc. Highly likely, at least one of the kids will need some kind of intensive care within the first year. Poor kids....what a shame these innocent little beings are placed behind the 8 ball right out of the gate.






~ds~
 EvilLolli
Joined: 12/7/2008
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Posted: 2/12/2009 7:29:40 AM
The more I hear about this woman the more disgusted I am by her. Her statements to the press clearly indicate she is not a mentally healthy individual.
At 33 she comes off as a spoiled rotten brat w/ no concept of reality or responsibility. She hasn't been held accountable for her actions and still seems to expect others to do for her. Maybe that money she spent on in-vetro should have been spent on psychotherapy instead. It's a shame her children are going to have to deal w/ her mistakes. Since its obvious she still hasn't grasped the reality of her situation or the world. She's now trying to be a "victim" in the media because the world hasn't been kind or amazed enough by her "accomplishment". She claims she loves her children, but I think if she did she would have stopped a few children back. She loves the idea of being their mother and herself more.

I truly feel sorry for her children, for them there is probably not going to be a light at the end for a long time. It may sound harsh but it is beginning to sound as if thses children of hers would be better off being adopted out to families that can really, honestly support, love, and raise them. Yes there are people out there w/ large families but the children are usually more staggered in age.

I only hope that this situation helps create some new laws/guidelines for how the medical practice and welfare systems do things. A psych test, counseling, and implant guidelines for having invetro. Stricter punishments for doctors like hers that do procedures for the money, not for the benefit it was intended for. A limit to how many children welfare will support, stricter guidelines for how to handle people that have extra children for welfare dollars, making birthcontrol more available to lower income families.

Ugh, ok I am done ranting now.
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