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 shannanigan
Joined: 12/26/2004
Msg: 7
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!Page 5 of 6    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
I was down in New Orleans a few years ago, and this Tarot Card guy
came up to me and asked if I studied "The Craft". I said "Ah, no..."
He says "Well you should, you'd be good at it". LOL!

I do find it facinating... but I think I'm too much of a skeptic. I have a
hard time believing in things that aren't backed by science. Thats why
I don't believe in Christianity...

I admit I'd like to read more about the Wiccan Religion though...
I've always thought it was an empowering belief for women,
unlike lots of other organised religions.
 dodge-and-burn
Joined: 11/7/2004
Msg: 8
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 1/5/2005 9:50:16 PM
im a practising shamon

Funny enough, although I know that pagan religions are the non-mainstream religions, I always considered native american spirituality to be mainstream.
 dodge-and-burn
Joined: 11/7/2004
Msg: 9
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 1/5/2005 9:55:16 PM
I gotta get into Wiccan again. I got a few props and a book. I'll do some more research on it this weekend.
 oldsarge
Joined: 12/30/2004
Msg: 10
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 1/13/2005 6:26:43 PM

i live in the deep south now and really hate it. there are very few peole sown here who are capable of practicing tolerance. most of them think that "tolerance" means towards other kinds of christians. people who are real nice to you change their attitude in a hurry if you let them know you don't go to church, let alone that you aren't a christian.


Know what you mean! One of the first things I did to "endear" my neighbors to me was to construct a 250' diameter Medicine Wheel in my front yard, (I have a large front yard) And then explain it to them.

One neighbor complained to me that the deer kept running into his car. (hitting it from the side while he was driving) I told him to stop hunting. During turkey season, he was lining up a shot on a big Tom, when 8 deer came out of the woods and got between him and the Tom. They just stood there looking at him until the Tom walked further into the woods and out of sight. I said, "Well, you won't listen to me will you?" (He didn't talk to me for 3 months!)

Ah, life in the "Bible Belt"!
 SexyStripper6
Joined: 1/15/2005
Msg: 11
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 1/15/2005 11:06:47 PM
ow. your message gave me a brain fart. too many big words. ow again.
(Oh BTW about the name-- one of my friends let me have her account, but these are all my pics and stuff.)

PEACE OUT
Selena
 MysticinVA
Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 12
If you are blessed with a gift....
Posted: 1/16/2005 7:09:13 AM
yna6...then you wont have to keep any defences up....you will recognise that which seeks to harm or destroy and you will counter it....

and keeping your own thing going isnt sharing....the gift you have isn't yours to keep...its to share and enrich others with....thats why we are all blessed

Your card for today...

is the Moon;

A major Arcana card. Nothing is as it seems with the moon...moonlight can play tricks on us altering the appearance and color of the landscapes, for whatever reason you are not seeing something in its true light, maybe someone is holding things back from you , or you are reluctant to face an unpleasant task.

The Moon is a difficult card, indicating often that there is a difficult situation, confusing as if you are in a fog...people are not being straight with you, telling you one thing and doing another, creating self doubt about what you hear see or do. The Moon card has links with dreams and the unconscious, secrets and fear may emerge unbidden forcing you to acknowledge them.

 MysticinVA
Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 13
the other thing that bugs me....
Posted: 1/16/2005 7:26:25 AM
is how those on the fringes of a Spiritual life or existance (or as some who have described it here..."Fluffs"...) or The Fakers or the Marketers of New Age religion...ALWAYS seem....assume that every guide is a Native American....thus those finding this side of life for the 1st time think thats all there is...

I have no doubt what-so-ever that the power that exists surrounding Native spirituality is massive...but not well documented at all.....but i do think the newage fluffies have **stardized the whole image

ME...I dont see guides, have no clue who mine are or how many...I dont hear them either. but I know they are there...its just a feeling that u feel...

I'm an Empath....I dont tell fortunes, or have visions...and for years never really understood what it was I felt...I do now....
 Handsome_n_honest
Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 14
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Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 2/10/2005 10:55:32 PM
Christianity has its day numbered by law of balance. They burned and tortured our ancestors for beleiving in something that dates back farther that there God (How come Adam didn't write a book if he was so special and could talk to god directly?), Ten folds is all i say... Velut Aegri Somnia - how your priest's dreams?...
 miss music
Joined: 1/18/2005
Msg: 15
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What do you believe?
Posted: 2/11/2005 10:55:00 PM
What do wiccans and pagans believe? Do you have a book or website on the subject? I know with Catholics, everything we believe is spelled out in the Catechism. This book contains all the beliefs and rationale.

I really don't know anything about these...uh...faiths?...so please pardon me if my questions sound simplistic, but I really am curious.

Are pagans and wiccans the same thing or different?
Is there one set of beliefs or is it more along the Alester Crowley (sp?) line of "do as thou wilt" (or whatever)?
Do you believe in the paranormal?
Do you believe in an afterlife?
Do you believe that you can do magic?
Do you believe in astrology, tarot cards, crystal balls, etc?
How do you celebrate your beliefs? (alone and in community)
What is the basis for your system of morality?
Why do you believe we are on this planet Earth?

I know that covers a lot of ground. Maybe you can refer me to a website or something.
 miss music
Joined: 1/18/2005
Msg: 16
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Posted: 2/13/2005 3:36:14 PM
Thanks Sidheanwwyn for your thought out response. If you do find any good websites on the topic, please let me know. I totally agree about there being a lot of misinformation on the internet. There is certainly tonnes about the Catholic faith!

About "pagan" vs "wiccan", I've always associated "wiccan" more with covens and witches while "pagan" seems more shamanic to me. I don't know if that's anywhere close to the truth though. It's just my impression.

I'm not sure how quantum physics and field theory are supposed to support the concept that physical forms and personal energy can be "used to make changes in ourselves and our environment". What is "personal energy"? Is it like the Oriental concept of "chi" or the East Indian concept of "chakras"?

About sex, I just have to take the opportunity to make one quick comment about Catholic beliefs on the subject because they are so often misunderstood and misquoted. Catholics also believe that sex is a gift (from God) and it can be beautiful and holy and absolutely FANTASTIC. However, we also say that this gift, like all gifts, can be mis-used and abused. (Kinda like matches. They can be used to create a fire for warmth or cooking but they can also be used for arson and to injure people.) Unfortunately, the popular press focuses solely on the teachings about avoiding abuse of sex and draws the erroneous conclusion that Catholics believe that sex is bad. Sigh.

Years ago, I read one book by Marion Zimmer-Bradley, can't remember which. I didn't enjoy the writing style, even though I am a fan of fantasy fiction. So, I've been avoiding the author. But, on your recommendation, I'll give Mists of Avalon a try. Maybe I will enjoy it now.

Anyhow, thanks again for your response.
 Handsome_n_honest
Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 17
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What do you believe?
Posted: 2/14/2005 8:51:27 AM
Missy, don't beleive the hype in here, MOST who call themselves "pagans" or "wiccans" are misguided and truly, would like to know (just as you would like to know). So they read books, and try things in the books and force themselves to believe that it worked - while if they only knew of the origin of the book's knowledge, and how distorted and dangerous it was intended to be, they'd probably cry in reguards to the misfornes in their lives- Laughs!.

Others are born in it, and are taught from birth, the true undeluted old ways which most "wiccans" and "pagans" and "goths" truly desire, and yet know so little about. So once again, if they give you a title, don't beleive the hype... I tried to post (twice) on your questions, but it didn't work.... so i'll try later.
 Handsome_n_honest
Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 2/14/2005 9:49:17 PM
Loci, I think he meant you can't argue the Bible with him, soulll. He's obviously closed his mind to any other option - even though I guarantee you, he's had no proof for his faith, and his obediance is not rewarded by the miracles the priest say Jesus promised.

Soulll answer me this,

If your savior showed himself to you, would you recognise him? How?
 Handsome_n_honest
Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 19
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Posted: 2/15/2005 2:32:28 AM
I'll try my best, but closed minded people get to me... espcially when it's a christian who thinks his Savior looked like him....when in fact he looked closer to Usama!!!!

dC:(
 Handsome_n_honest
Joined: 1/1/2005
Msg: 20
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American Indian Ways and lumping tribes together with Shamans
Posted: 2/15/2005 10:09:41 PM
Well said Ocean. Did someone actually say "a Shaman in American Indian ways" - LOL
I must have missed it... Somepeople have so little of a clue.
 Gabrielle3339
Joined: 6/20/2004
Msg: 21
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 2/15/2005 11:26:55 PM
I agree with you, MST Jedi. There are so few Pagans out there today because most of are afraid of coming out and saying , "Hey I'm Pagan." and then be ridiculed for it. It's refreshing to see this thread and see.."Pagans in Texas". LOL
Do you have any idea how hard is to try and figure out who's Pagan or Pagan friendly when you look through the profiles on here? hehehe this is great.

 RDtoo
Joined: 1/30/2005
Msg: 22
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Posted: 2/19/2005 7:51:10 PM
Mr. Kamway, you did indeed baffle the Christians here. As you had no prior post, nobody knows what you are referring to. As for your exclamation of who you "are", I have heard the same thing declared by patients in the mental health ward of hospitals that I have worked at.
 Ravenstar66
Joined: 8/27/2007
Msg: 23
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Posted: 5/8/2008 8:55:40 AM
I've never met a Native who called themselves a Shaman.. I am friends with a Medicine Man, Blackfoot.. and good friends with a Dreamwalker.

I have met some New Age folk who call themselves Shamans... but I don't know how much of that is affectation.

I'm just a witch, following the path of the Great Mother.

Namasté all!

Ravenstar
 Dazzling Girl
Joined: 7/8/2008
Msg: 26
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Posted: 5/29/2010 9:51:18 PM
Wow--nice to see so many on here!

Pagan myself, interested in Wicca, can't seem to focus on it long enough...*grin*

I find tools useful for certain things, but honestly, the time I most feel connected to the goddess is when I take my evening 3-mile walk and feel the wind on my face. Simple things, I suppose.
 JnJon
Joined: 11/9/2008
Msg: 27
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Posted: 5/28/2011 10:39:34 AM


Wow--nice to see so many on here!

Pagan myself, interested in Wicca, can't seem to focus on it long enough...*grin*

I find tools useful for certain things, but honestly, the time I most feel connected to the goddess is when I take my evening 3-mile walk and feel the wind on my face. Simple things, I suppose.


there is no need to try and rush at practicing your craft.
 worldtraveller74
Joined: 5/10/2011
Msg: 28
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 7/9/2011 12:38:04 PM
Whilst I am a die hard athiest, I do heavily appreciate and support your efforts. I hope more of you come forward and help erode the idea that the abrahamic religions are all there is.
 Ravenstar66
Joined: 8/27/2007
Msg: 29
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Posted: 8/23/2011 12:04:57 PM
Bumping this to draw out the pagans... again You have to be here somewhere

Although I'm very comfortable with solitude, and I do have a pagan friend or two in my area, community is the hardest thing about being pagan. We are just so spread out... and some of us still in the broom closet.

Forget dating lol finding pagan men is like trying to win the lottery

just joking.. sort of

Namasté
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 30
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 8/27/2011 9:46:15 PM
Is soilidly out of the broom closet, here!
 Ravenstar66
Joined: 8/27/2007
Msg: 31
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Posted: 8/28/2011 8:11:35 AM
awesome!

It's a tough step.. was for me anyway

:)
 LennyPane
Joined: 2/2/2011
Msg: 32
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Posted: 7/25/2012 9:12:53 PM
PakanaHerruus: do you listen to burzum?
 Cotillion89
Joined: 7/28/2012
Msg: 33
Wiccans and Pagans! Give Me That Old Time Religion!
Posted: 8/4/2012 1:42:54 AM
I am fairly new to wicca , i read a boo by scott cunningham and it helped me realize that most of the beliefs i stumbled upon by myself where pagan, i would love to learn more but so many sites are fwrong can anyone point me in the right direction to further my learning
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