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 YearoftheCat
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 135
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!Page 6 of 10    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10)
Hey smarty pants OP,

Did you ever think that the very rich will do just fine through a Depression while the working and middle classes will not?

I'm sorry, but a Depression is a horrible thing to wish on people. Do you even know how many people are losing their jobs right now? Imagine how it feels to them to read this post.
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 138
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 3/7/2009 4:50:56 PM
Qoute from the above post-"Obama says that a crisis is a great time for opportunity."

Thats a half truth, the full truth is that......

In a crisis scenario, nations will give up practically anything — freedoms, finances, and yes, even their own currencies if it means avoiding certain economic disaster. If there’s one thing that the world has learned from 9/11, it’s that the best way to grab power from the People is to take advantage of a disaster or piggyback on one that occurs on its own. When faced with the fear of annihilation, the People of any nation will not merely surrender their freedoms and finances, they will beg to turn them over to any apparent "authority" who promises a solution.

Now what are American's "willing" to give up?????

Now some humor.....

I can't speak for everyone but if America becomes a true socialist nation... Well let's just say that I plan on taking advantage of every taxpayer program in the system to the full extent... My dreams of being lazy and getting paid for it will finally be realized. Big LOL. Don't get mad at me for using the system. Why put the programs out there if you don't want the public to use them?...Right???

Regarding message #192
Just remember all those technologies and advancements you speak of were created in a free market society full of competition.
 SAguy_06
Joined: 12/29/2005
Msg: 141
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 3/8/2009 10:26:00 AM
I dont know if Obama is the right man for the job, But he is the man on the job...

We are in unprecedented times...We have multi-problems that even the "Experts" are baffled as to how to solve...We are in "Theory" territory here...There is no Play-Book or Proven Methods to solve the problems we face today.

Wether you support Obama or not, He and his group are applying their theory on how to stop the down turn of the economy and bring it back to a healthy state.

We all agree our Economy is in trouble...The solutions to solve these problems are up for debate. But the one fact that is undisputable is that Obama and his team are taking their shot.
 wisguyingb
Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 142
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 3/9/2009 5:07:09 AM
Regarding message #194

No, I never did live in public housing, never have been on social welfare or been on food stamps. I grew up on a farm and have a work ethic. These days I live in the city and work as much as I can. Heck back in 2007 I worked 98 hours one week, then 102 the very next week and finally the record breaker 105 hours the very next week. (what can I say I like overtime pay..lol) But the problem is that many people today are just plain lazy or do not want to work weekends because it cuts into their social life...whaaaa whaaa, cry me a fricking river. The company that I work for started people out at nearly $16.00 dollars a hour plus lots of overtime and medical, dental, and vision all paid for(in full mind you) when the employee made it through probation. You know how hard it was to keep people around?!!!!???!!! These lazy punks hated working on the weekends and 12 hour mandatory days, 6 days a week with the option for more overtime after 12 hours. Is a social life more important then one's future? I guess so. Is it that hard to work for a living? I guess so!! I cant feel sorry for many people, because I know if I hit rock bottom I'd go and trim beef or pick beans with immigrant labor. That's another thing. We have poor a$$ people crossing the border to just make a few bucks a hour to pick beans and better themselves. They don't come here to collect a welfare check, they work. And most of them are damn hard workers. And even as much as I hate this idea. If I hit rock bottom, well I could always go back into the Army Reserve or Active duty. Maybe the Coast Guard. Last I checked Uncle Sam was hiring. The army hires up until age 42 right now. (With a big bonus)

Now as far as the economy goes. I say if Americans want a "real stimulus" we ought to abolish the Federal Reserve Bank and abolish the income tax law.(If you can actually find or define it as a law) With no more "Fed" creating and then loaning US Dollars to the US Government (with interest mind you) and no more illegal income tax law draining the American people of their rightfully earned money illegally(Illegal as defined by the US Constitution since US Dollars are "Bills of credit" which the Constitution does not allow. 2nd they are not backed by gold or silver as DEMANDED by the Constitution). There would be a flood of buying. I know I would buy a new boat and a new truck after being freed from the clutches of the money manipulators. (Small Ben Franklin quote there..lol)

But in the end Obama as no desire to stand up against the Federal Reserve.

Join in the campaign for liberty and participate in the "End the Fed" rallies on April 25th 2009!
 nebula22
Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 143
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 3/9/2009 6:05:13 AM
Sounds good except for one minor detail....
The FEDs and Big business OWN the American government..
That means they also Own all of the cops and the military..
If we try to abolish the Federal Reserve, they will kill us using our military and cops against US.

And the Stupid **stards that are cops and military would Not Hesitate to do whatever they are told because the do not care about Americans freedom and this has been proven by the war on drugs which is nothing more than a war against the American citizen.,
 casperella
Joined: 10/30/2006
Msg: 149
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 3/13/2009 5:51:13 PM
Well we could start by not buying so much from other countries and buy american only. So many people have lost jobs because the company they worked for moved to a nother country because it was cheaper there. Cut off some of the countries that are basically our enemies. And the ones we do buy from, we should exchange food for products they provide instead of giving them money. We have lots of food they dont have.
 nebula22
Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 151
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Posted: 3/14/2009 5:23:01 AM
Your right to an extent.. But the prices will all need to come down before people could live on less money.

People do not have to accept the lower pay as a permanent thing.
They can change a few laws and legalize freedom so that people will be able to work from their homes.

I own commercial property and because of this, I can work on cars at my home.
I know many other mechanics that got into trouble for trying to make a dollar at home.
They only got into trouble because they do not own commercial property.

These laws against peoples basic freedoms are killing the American people and in turn, killing America too.
Do you know how much more money people have to pay for auto repair because of the overhead the shop has to pay?

Land of the Free my azz.
 CryManelli
Joined: 10/13/2009
Msg: 153
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Posted: 1/26/2010 1:36:21 PM
I remember obama talking alot about an energy grid during the campaign--he was going to do for energy what Eisenhauer did for highways or something like that.
Has anyone heard anything more about this or is if falling off of the Obama Administration's radar? It sounded to me like it was a good idea. Maybe too big of a project?
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 154
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 1/26/2010 1:44:30 PM
Since the 1980s Americans have become increasingly lazy and materialistic. This economic downturn is a result of that.


Kindof like how everyone was lazy and materialistic in the 20's? Riiiiight....


The stock market is too high, it needs to drop more.

The stock market is world-wide, not just American.



People need to start being more creative, they need to start to value the dollar more.


Okay, you think we need to value the dollar more, yet you seem to think inflation is a good thing based on what you have said. Make up your mind.


We need nationalized healthcare and a better education system. We need an energy grid. We need to recycle more. Big corporations need to be held accountable for polluting our environment. CEOs need to be given a golden shower instead of a golden parachute...


Right, because there should be no drive to succeed. Why work hard when nationalized healthcare has you covered. Why work hard when being CEO gets you "a golden shower". Oh wait. I thought you were AGAINST lazyness based on the first part of your post. Now, I don't know what to think. You have me confused. Please explain? I thought you would be in favor of private healthcare, since the title of this thread stated that "Americans are spoiled". Now you think we should have more things provided by the government?


Obama is the right man at the right time. He's putting us on the right course. It's gonna be hard for some, but in the end it will make America a better place. So deal with it!


I guess you are just as entitled to your opinion as I am. I think Obama's attitude and decisions have so-far been more about being popular (which he has failed horridly at) than anything else. HR3200 is a blundering mess. His foreign policy seems to be kow-tow to everyone. The only thing I can see that he is doing good is encouraging different sources of alternative energy, but an economic down-time is not the time to do it in the manner he is doing it in.

Sounds to me like you are just a rabid Obama fan with no real-world grasp of healthcare, economics, or American or world history.
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 155
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Posted: 1/26/2010 2:07:17 PM
I knew it was too good to be true.


I know, right? How dare me call someone a rabid Obama fan when they say "Obama is the right man at the right time" and how no-matter how much Obama's plans hurt people in the short-term, it will be great in the long term, and everyone should suck it up and get on-board. I mean, a rabid Obama fan wouldn't say that, would they?

The OP also proved my other points in their post as well.

The 1920's were not what I would call a lazy time, yet it precipitated the great depression.--lack of understanding of economics

The Stock Market is international--lack of understanding of economics and world-history

HR3200 has a LOT of problems (namely being very large, ponderous, and prone to people like Senatory Landry tacking on heaven knows WHAT to it) and the healthcare industry is in real trouble, with or without it--lack of understanding of healthcare issues faced today.


But hey, it's opinion, right? Just like you always hunt down my posts to neg them when they don't suit you. You know, how when I disagree with someone and say something negative about their opinion how you come in and say something negative about my saying something negative? It really cracks me up. You don't tolerate intolerance, do ya?
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 156
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 1/26/2010 2:32:58 PM
Americans are greedy and uneducated and it can only be hoped that they'll give themselves a reality check on both counts. Greedy in the sense that they figure the world is their oyster without having to think or work for themselves in any meaningful way. Uneducated (mixed with greed) in that the average person doesn't have a clue how to be financially responsible and couldn't be bothered to find out (it's too much like that 4 letter word - "work"). Spend like there's no tomorrow, charge everything to the max, buy houses and other big ticket items that they don't have a hope in hell of being able to keep should something unforeseen happen (which has, even though it really was foreseen when you think about it) and then blame everyone else for their problems. And when I say Americans are greedy and uneducated, that includes any government of the day in recent history - Gen X isn't just the general population, it includes those in government. Getting back to basics and financial education is a requirement, not just holding onto your hats and riding the wave until it dies down, only to continue where you left off just before the crunch.
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 157
Americans Are Spoiled: A Depression will do us good!
Posted: 1/26/2010 6:30:32 PM

Americans are greedy and uneducated and it can only be hoped that they'll give themselves a reality check on both counts. Greedy in the sense that they figure the world is their oyster without having to think or work for themselves in any meaningful way. Uneducated (mixed with greed) in that the average person doesn't have a clue how to be financially responsible and couldn't be bothered to find out (it's too much like that 4 letter word - "work"). Spend like there's no tomorrow, charge everything to the max, buy houses and other big ticket items that they don't have a hope in hell of being able to keep should something unforeseen happen (which has, even though it really was foreseen when you think about it) and then blame everyone else for their problems. And when I say Americans are greedy and uneducated, that includes any government of the day in recent history - Gen X isn't just the general population, it includes those in government. Getting back to basics and financial education is a requirement, not just holding onto your hats and riding the wave until it dies down, only to continue where you left off just before the crunch.


Based on what I saw when I worked for Ford (A lot of credit apps).

I really have no argument against what you have said.
 JWG86
Joined: 7/5/2008
Msg: 159
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Posted: 1/26/2010 6:58:38 PM
Are you referring to that 10% of people who are unemployed in the U.S.? You may want to fact-check before you make generalizations.


Reading the rest of her post, and understanding what she means by "financially responsible", I would wager that she is referring to everyone with outstanding credit-card debt. Work in this context may not directly mean "holding a job", but rather working to reduce their dependance on credit/debt/banks/etc, if taken in context with the first part of the sentence you quoted referring to being financially responsible.

Just playing devil's advocate on that one.


^^^^ I could not believe Bush and McCain are saying Obama hasn't made the "hard decisions." I guess they mean like pulling "a really big number" outta their arses and handing it to their rich friends with NO regulations. Yeah... I'll bet that was a really tough decision... much more difficult than which pair of super hero underoos they wanna wear today.


Obama has pulled tonnes of big numbers out of his arse. His campaign fund was one. Then came the stimulus plan, which was full of bogus numbers ranging from it's true cost to the supposed impact it would have on unemployment, and now he is whipping up another with HR3200, that Senator Landry has already tacked another $100M onto. No, I don't think anyone can say the man hasn't pulled some big numbers out of his arse.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 160
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Posted: 1/27/2010 7:57:43 AM

Are you referring to that 10% of people who are unemployed in the U.S.? You may want to fact-check before you make generalizations.

JWG is correct in his assumption. Huge numbers of people are in the position they are in now because they treat credit like it's free money, they have no reserve funds, over-spend, over-indulge and otherwise don't live within their means, then cry that it's because of the state of the economy. I'm not talking about those who earn barely enough to get by on from week to week, but those who do. If you can afford to buy a house, for instance, you should have also enough money set aside to cover your costs through job loss for at the very least 6 months. If you can't do that factored in before a house purchase, you have no business owning a house - you've over-extended yourself, just because you "had" to have a house (greed), not because you could afford to have one and everything else that goes along with ownership.
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 161
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Posted: 1/27/2010 9:18:15 AM
Americans are greedy and uneducated and it can only be hoped that they'll give themselves a reality check on both counts. Greedy in the sense that they figure the world is their oyster without having to think or work for themselves in any meaningful way. Uneducated (mixed with greed) in that the average person doesn't have a clue how to be financially responsible and couldn't be bothered to find out (it's too much like that 4 letter word - "work"). Spend like there's no tomorrow, charge everything to the max, buy houses and other big ticket items that they don't have a hope in hell of being able to keep should something unforeseen happen (which has, even though it really was foreseen when you think about it) and then blame everyone else for their problems. And when I say Americans are greedy and uneducated, that includes any government of the day in recent history - Gen X isn't just the general population, it includes those in government. Getting back to basics and financial education is a requirement, not just holding onto your hats and riding the wave until it dies down, only to continue where you left off just before the crunch.


I will agree with the government spending wildly and being greedy. There is also some truth to the fact that we are less educated today especially concerning credit cards, loans, and mortgages. Too little people understand fully what they are getting into when it comes to such loans and have not taken the time to read the entire contract especially the fine print. Then there are those who do read it all yet do not fully understand what they are reading or do not foresee problems that could arise in their future that might make things go array. They might feel pressured and so they just jump right in believing what the salesperson/Realtor/banker/creditor tells them and sign on the dotted line without getting a full explanation of terms first.

I bet most people do not realize that credit card companies, training their employees, have pet terms for the different types of consumers that they have basically stating that there are those they know to be far less knowledgeable about the debts.......by the way they like them the best as they get more profit off of them. Their pet names for such consumers is quite rude basically equating them with willing idiots.

There have been researchers who have done surveys to discover what type of debts are on these credit cards of those most in debt and they have found a high percentage of these people got into credit card debt due to medical expenses that had become too high for the average person to pay out of pocket. Once the credit card debt cycle starts especially when it is due to medical costs then comes the late fees, over the limit fees, annual dues fees, etc. and before you know it people are being swallowed up with debts that they cannot pay.

Yes, there are some people still trying to keep up with the Joneses but there are factors beyond peoples control as well that has lead them into high debt.
 m14shooter
Joined: 10/2/2009
Msg: 162
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Posted: 1/28/2010 11:40:02 PM

Americans are greedy and uneducated and it can only be hoped that they'll give themselves a reality check on both counts. Greedy in the sense that they figure the world is their oyster without having to think or work for themselves in any meaningful way. Uneducated (mixed with greed) in that the average person doesn't have a clue how to be financially responsible and couldn't be bothered to find out (it's too much like that 4 letter word - "work"). Spend like there's no tomorrow, charge everything to the max, buy houses and other big ticket items that they don't have a hope in hell of being able to keep should something unforeseen happen (which has, even though it really was foreseen when you think about it) and then blame everyone else for their problems. And when I say Americans are greedy and uneducated, that includes any government of the day in recent history - Gen X isn't just the general population, it includes those in government. Getting back to basics and financial education is a requirement, not just holding onto your hats and riding the wave until it dies down, only to continue where you left off just before the crunch.


Most of the people here in the government have fancy degrees from places like Harvard and have screwed this country up beyond belief. I despise college educated people that put down the rest of us that made it without the degree. Everything I own is paid for the day I get it. I have never made a car payment, mortgage payment or any installment loan payment. I use a American Express with a very high limit and pay it off every month. I have never paid interest and never will. Most of my college educated friends in in debt to their eyeballs and make a hell of a lot less money than my high school educated self. I laugh at all my friends and their businesses that are dependent on credit to stay afloat, I finance my own business.

The government allowing fractional reserve banking and allowing credit card companies to pray upon users is what has ruined this country. That and higher education has ****ed this country up.
 CryManelli
Joined: 10/13/2009
Msg: 163
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Posted: 1/29/2010 9:10:09 AM
When Obama was campaigning I think he got it right. He told people flat out that he couldnt change America alone--it would take involvement from the people. But so far Americans--especially these young, new voters that Obama brought into the mix--have been too lazy to get involved. Obama also said that it would take alot of hard work and it would take stuggle and sacrifice. And again America has not been willing to do this. We are a society that expects the quick fix. Hungry? Get some fast food, throw something in th microwave. Want clothes and electronics? Put it on the credit card. Don't bother with actually working for what you want. That is no longer an American value, not in 21st century America, it isn't.
 Twilightslove
Joined: 12/9/2008
Msg: 164
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Posted: 1/29/2010 9:45:07 AM

When Obama was campaigning I think he got it right. He told people flat out that he couldnt change America alone--it would take involvement from the people. But so far Americans--especially these young, new voters that Obama brought into the mix--have been too lazy to get involved. Obama also said that it would take alot of hard work and it would take stuggle and sacrifice. And again America has not been willing to do this.


It isn't always a matter of being lazy......sometimes it is just a matter of not knowing how to get involved and/or how one person's involvement will actually help. Yes, there are those who are lazy and those who want a quick fix; then there are those who simply cannot see how their involvement will effect any real changes, especially after seeing how elections do not seem to change things that will benefit your average American. I see that preponderance to not want to work harder yet my generation often works way too hard for their own good. I know men and women my age who work three jobs during the week just to keep up with their expenses.......sometimes putting in 100 hours a week and I wonder just how long they can keep that up before their body gives out. Perhaps the younger generation sees that as well and wonders the same thing. No matter how you look at it there are many people who do sacrifice and struggle everyday just to make ends meet without even the ability to get any real health care and little to no time left for their family, a good healthy meal and a total lack of down time to just enjoy the simple things in life. Now you want them to add more to their schedule to demand change and they are so worn out they just want to demand an hour of peace.

Just wait though; if you poke and prod a person long enough they become antagonized and then you will see change and involvement.
 CryManelli
Joined: 10/13/2009
Msg: 165
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Posted: 1/29/2010 12:04:46 PM
There are ways to avoid paying taxes. Simply stop earning alot of money. If you live below the poverty level, then you should get basically all of your income taxes back.
Ofcourse you will have to change your living style, but this idea is nothing new. Sometimes refered to as "voluntary simplicity" its an idea that began with the Shramana traditions of Iron Age India. Buddha and biblical Nazirites (notably John the Baptist), Francis of Assisi, Ammon Hennacy, Rabindranath Tagore, Mahatma Gandhi, Zarathustra, Buddha, Lao-Tse, Jesus and Confucius have all been advocates of simple living.
Also various religious groups including the Shakers, Mennonites, Amish, Harmony Society, and some Quakers have for centuries practiced lifestyles in which some forms of wealth are excluded for religious or philosophical reasons.


Here are some books on the subject matter:
Henry David Thoreau Walden(1854)
Richard Gregg The Value of Voluntary Simplicity(1936)
Duane Elgin Voluntary Simplicity (1981)
Ernest Callenbach Living Poor with Style (1972)
 ghostrider73a7x
Joined: 7/27/2009
Msg: 166
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Posted: 1/31/2010 5:31:59 PM

Ron Paul was the ONLY man for the job of President.

I voted for Paul in the primaries, and I will do so again.


Ron Paul stands for the American people unlike the rest. Ron Paul 2012!
 Soul Union
Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 167
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Posted: 6/7/2012 8:52:16 PM

Obama is the right man at the right time. He's putting us on the right course . . .


I think you need to take your blindfold off and then remove your rose-coloured spectacles.

In order to know about something, or someone, you need to study the thing or the person you are talking about. And I wonder if you have done this.

I have just finished a massive tome by David Icke called Human Race Get off Your Knees. Amongst other things, and there are many, he covers, in depth, the fantasy called Barack Hussein Obama, which so many people have fallen for. In reality, Obama is tyranny with a toothpaste smile. Under the 'caring' Obama, the US government is spending 50 times more money on the military in Afghanistan (the 'forever war') than it is on helping the Afghan people in a land where one in four children die before their fifth birthday and 70% have no access to clean water.

Obama, according to the research, and there's plenty of it in this book, has an image of being a 'man of the people,' when he has actually handed trillions of dollars to the very forces that enslave the people, destroy their livelihoods and eject them from their homes.

Obama sells 'hope' as a diversion technique, a holding position for the masses to keep them from rebelling. We have no jobs, no food on our tables and our homes are being foreclosed. But at least we have 'hope.' Phew, thank goodness for that. Here's to Obama!

As for global warming, which Obama and his neocons blame on the sheeple . . . this became 'climate change' when temperatures began to fall year after year. So why does Al Gore, another neocon, still say the planet is heading for catastrophe because of rising temperatures? Simple. He is a liar - just another Illuminati elite, fuelling the fat cats at the United Nations with 'carbon taxes' from the sheeple, who have no choice but to pay them, along with all the other taxes, many of which have still to be implemented.

Obama, before he got in to the White House, laboured on and on about 'change.' But he was shy to elaborate about what kind of change he had in mind. He never specified what he meant by 'change' because it was simply a vacuous slogan to scam the sheeple to vote for him.

I will quote briefly from David Icke's monumentous book, which, in my opinion, should be read by every thinking human being on the planet:

"Obama has been an 'insider' for decades and now masquerades as a 'man of the people.' For goodness' sake, Obama even refuses to produce a birth certificate to prove he was born in the United States, an essential requirement under the Constitution to become President. He claims to have been born in Hawaii, but his grandmother, half-brother and half-sister all insist he was born in Kenya. At the time of writing he is spending a fortune [of the American taxpayers' money] to block lawsuits aimed at forcing him to produce the proof that he qualifies by birth to be President. Why, if what he says is true? Why not just show the paperwork and put an end to it? I think there is a good chance that the reason for not producing his birth certificate is to hide who his real father is. Obama is a fake and a fraud and he has long been moulded and prepared to be President by democons like Brzezinksi and George Soros. Los Angeles Times' writer Dan Morain said this about Obama in 2007 in an article headed 'Fresh face or old-school player?'

"Now, promoting himself as a fresh face on the national political stage, proclaiming his distance from lobbyists and the Washington culture of special interests, Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) has to content with his own history. From Chicago to Springfield, his past is filled with decidedly old-school political tactics, a history of befriending powerful local elders, assisting benefactors and special interests, and neutralizing rivals."

If you want to find out even more about your President, read a book called Barack H Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Griffin Tarpley. You will never see this man in the same way again.

As for the coming Depression "doing us good," I am afraid, according to what I have been reading here, we won't have the luxury of returning to the good old days to reflect on how bad things are about to become. There will be no 'recovery' this time, and the Obamas and his henchmen will see to it.

Blessings to everyone.

Peter
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 168
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Posted: 6/7/2012 9:58:27 PM
Soul, all the things you mentioned and I still would prefer Pres. Obama over our last ahem,,, Pres. Or.for that matter the McCain/Palin sideshow. If you hurry you may still be able to book a ticket on the Trump/Birther crazytrain. I noticed you left that out of your post.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 169
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Posted: 6/8/2012 5:31:52 AM

He continued the Bush bailouts without so much as taking a breath,...

Yeah because the GOP was not doing everything it could to make sure they never ended and stalling any legislation that would have ended it.

No they would never do that, so do not let those facts get in the way, you just keep blaming the black guy.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 170
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Posted: 6/8/2012 11:44:10 AM

@msg 240............"tot", we've had to correct you numerous times on this. Mr. Obama is NOT black. He is mixed race.

So you will attack me and a witty comment, but not challenge the fact of the statement, which is the GOP has done everything it can to make sure those tax cuts do not expire.




For a man with such an inflated impression of his own intelligence, you sure do get a lot of "facts" wrong.

Showing your true colors once again I see with the personal attacks, you stay classy now.




[Maybe you should just stick to issues from your own area. Just askin, have you ever spoke on issues happening in your own back yard?

The USA is my back yard in case you have not been paying attention.
 hoopsnhikes
Joined: 4/16/2010
Msg: 171
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Posted: 6/8/2012 4:54:12 PM

He continued the Bush bailouts without so much as taking a breath,...


Yeah because the GOP was not doing everything it could to make sure they never ended and stalling any legislation that would have ended it.

No they would never do that, so do not let those facts get in the way, you just keep blaming the black guy.

Both the initial start of the bailouts under President Bush, as well as the decision to continue with them at the request of then President-elect Obama (there was a resolution in mid January 2009 to block the release of the remaining $350 billion), had a lot more support from Democrats than Republicans.


Showing your true colors once again I see with the personal attacks, you stay classy now.

Right, and constantly implying that anyone who disagrees with any of President Obama's policies is a racist is just so classy, and not a personal attack in the least.

Oh the hypocrisy.
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