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 JessKO
Joined: 1/18/2005
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...and I'd like to add:

People who disrespect virgins are as useless to me as people who disrespect those who have sex the first night they meet someone

Hello pot--meet kettle.
 JessKO
Joined: 1/18/2005
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Posted: 1/19/2005 2:02:45 AM
Nice of him to leave us alone without help.
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 28
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Posted: 1/19/2005 10:47:36 PM

You are expected to do things for yourself.


Got it! God wants us to masturbate.

/off to please God ...
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 29
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Posted: 1/19/2005 11:02:10 PM
I keep thinking 'Whoremonger'
as sung to the tune from the James Bond movie 'Goldfinger'.
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 30
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Posted: 1/19/2005 11:35:20 PM
Just curious...what is the view on people who don't have the choice of being a virgin before marriage? In your interpretation, are they going to hell for being a victim?
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 1/19/2005 11:53:08 PM
well we're not all christian, so I thought I'd ask.

Some of us follow other faiths.
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:03:49 AM
I didn't until about 5 minutes ago. And to be honest, being that I am not christian I do not know their teachings, hence why I asked.
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 33
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:08:52 AM
I've oftened wondered (I am catholic btw) whether or not me being raped and abused would be held against me on judgement day. I had a particularly devout stepparent who convinced me I was beyond redemtpion and there was no point saving my "non existent virginity" as she put it, for marriage.\

What's the christian take or rape and abuse?
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 34
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:16:43 AM
Loukas: Do you see it as a Dantean hell, where (in the vestibule) one would find Jews and babies who died before they were baptized? Persons who, although they committed no sin, are still not permitted to enter heaven.
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:17:16 AM
My little brother died this summer, very unexpectedly and we still don't know why. It's shaken my faith considerably and I've been questioning alot of things as of late when it comes to faith.

I apologize if I come off as harsh at times, but I have seen violence at the hands of those in a religious debate and I personally would like to see everyone be tolerant of others opinions. Regardless of if I agree with them or not. I know it's not something that's going to happen but I can't stop trying to make things just a little better.
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 36
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:26:42 AM
ept: Sorry to hear that, that's rough. :(

*
Loukus: I'm only familiar with Dante. The concept of 'accuracy' wrt hell is amusing.
Could you still answer my question please: What about non-Xtians and unbaptised babies? What happens to them?










*I am not Christian therefore I read stuff like that out of scholarly interest, but I like a good debate.




nad: Sounds like it worked out quite conveniently for her mom.
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 37
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:27:19 AM
it doesn't! my stepdad was the same way
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:31:06 AM
pretty much. I've been told I'm going to hell regardless of my good deeds because A) i was raped as a small child, therefore no longer innocent and B) i wasn't baptised until I was 12.

Fortunately, I am more spiritual than religious and I don't buy into alot of what mass religion has been ramming down society's collective gullet.
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 39
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:39:43 AM
Loukas: Let's get back to the Jews for a sec. How do you mean case-by-case? Evaluated by whom?
Would their only way to get into heaven be by accepting Christ?




I know it's a little ot, and I don't want to detract from the seriousness of our discussion, but have you ever seen the TV show 'Father Ted'?
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 1/20/2005 12:52:17 AM
so by that logic, any religion who does not accept christ or worships god under a different name will not get into heavan?
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 41
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Posted: 1/20/2005 1:00:01 AM
So... you've never seen Father Ted?

I love that show.



And ... I'm going to hell! Express train, smoking section, window seat please.
See ya there, Loukus! Muhahahahaha!
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 42
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Posted: 1/20/2005 1:05:25 AM
might as well reserve me a seat too.
 JessKO
Joined: 1/18/2005
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Posted: 1/20/2005 1:52:43 AM
She only stuff I really found about rape was in Old Testament.
I think it says you have to marry the rapist or something under old Jewish law.
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 44
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Posted: 1/20/2005 1:55:07 AM
Like this?
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Shamoun/ot_and_rape.htm


ept: Come sit in with me in the dining car, lunch is being served. Today's menu: baby soup, flambee of xtain with little potatoes (oh I love those), and for dessert, frozen whipped puree of pope.
Hope you brought your appetite!
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 45
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Posted: 1/20/2005 1:56:57 AM
marry the rapist?

wow, so commit incest...
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 46
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Posted: 1/20/2005 2:00:12 AM
I think of it in terms of "Hey buddy, if you think you're gonna get a free lunch, you've got another thing coming" or "You break it, you buy it"
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 47
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Posted: 1/20/2005 2:02:29 AM
hmmmmpppffff

no one bought me


grumble grumble grumble...muttering under the breath....grumble grumble grumble
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 48
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Posted: 1/20/2005 2:11:33 AM
Oh Sh*t - sorry.


Well since I'm on the train already, I'll have another bowl of soup. Pass the crusted-christian-crackers please (with imitation body-of-christ flavouring!)
 evilprincesstera
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 49
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Posted: 1/20/2005 2:16:56 AM
*chokes on the hard candy*

i should have known better d*mnit
 Fid Copya
Joined: 1/13/2005
Msg: 50
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Posted: 1/20/2005 2:23:39 AM
:) <---- wicked, evil (yet somehow beckoning) smile.
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